MD

Morris Dovey

28/10/2004 9:26 AM

OT: Political debate issues

I've been invited to contribute questions to be asked at a
one-hour student political debate to be held next week at a Texas
university.

The questions will be presented by a moderator to two panels of
students corresponding to the two major political parties.

I came up with nine questions (below) and fired 'em off - with a
request that a transcription of the debate be posted on the web
(and offered to host the web page if it was viewed as too
controversial for the university.)

If anyone (regular or lurker) would like to contribute questions
for these young adults to consider, please e-mail them to me and
I'll pass them on to the moderator for possible inclusion.

I'm not enthusiastic about long political threads on the wreck;
so /please/ don't respond here.

==========

My nine questions (cut-n-pasted from my reply):

[1] Given that a number of developing nations - most notably
China - are placing an accelerating load on the world petroleum
supply, what steps do you believe the United States should take
(and on what schedule) to avoid the adverse effects to our
economy of soaring petroleum costs?

[2] Do you favor removing the federal restrictions on stem cell
research? If yes, to what extent - or if no, why not?

[3] Would you favor legislation that, within the purview of the
United States, would make all persons (regardless of citizenship,
ethnicity, religion, gender, or origin) equal before the law?

[4] How do you think the United States can best further the
establishment of a lasting peace between the Israelis and
Palestinians?

[5] How might the United States improve its public education system?

[6] Reliable public transportation will become increasingly
important in coming years. To what extent should the federal
government be involved and what specific actions to you think it
should take to facilitate needed developments?

[7] Is there any part of the Constitution of the United States
that you feel has outlasted its usefulness?

(I'm especially interested in the amendments that make up the
Bill of Rights; but do intend this to be a wide-open question.)

[8] Under what circumstances do you believe it is appropriate to
mislead the American people, either by providing false
information, by telling partial truths, or by withholding
information essential to a true and complete understanding of
events and/or positions taken?

[9] Do you believe it appropriate for US firms to exercise price
discrimination against American purchasers? If not, would you
support legislation to require companies to sell their products
to Americans at a price not exceeding the lowest price at which
the product is sold outside the US?

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA


This topic has 22 replies

FH

"Fletis Humplebacker"

in reply to Morris Dovey on 28/10/2004 9:26 AM

28/10/2004 10:58 AM


"Eric Johnson"
> Q: What is the best way to address population explosions in areas that
lack
> the natural resources to support them? Example Southern California, Las
> Vegas and Phoenix needing fresh water supplies drastically beyond their
> means.


Stem cell research. We should start harvesting liberal's
stem cells immediately.



> Q: Specifically regarding the federal electoral process: How do we as a
> nation keep the electoral process in the hands of the people and out of
> federal judicial and court systems?


See above.

FH

"Fletis Humplebacker"

in reply to Morris Dovey on 28/10/2004 9:26 AM

28/10/2004 2:46 PM


"James T. Kirby"
> Fletis Humplebacker


> > Stem cell research. We should start harvesting liberal's
> > stem cells immediately.

> Yes, they have a much better chance of producing beneficial results than
stem
> cells
> from conservatives, which are defective to start with.


Any lifeform not governed by it's emotions would seem
defective to the liberal.


cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Morris Dovey on 28/10/2004 9:26 AM

28/10/2004 2:40 PM

How about #10: If GWB returns to office, how intensely will you pray for his
health and well-being (assuming D. Cheney also makes it through the process)?

Charlie Self
"When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not
hereditary." Thomas Paine

EJ

"Eric Johnson"

in reply to Morris Dovey on 28/10/2004 9:26 AM

28/10/2004 11:56 AM

Q: What is the best way to address population explosions in areas that lack
the natural resources to support them? Example Southern California, Las
Vegas and Phoenix needing fresh water supplies drastically beyond their
means.


Q: Specifically regarding the federal electoral process: How do we as a
nation keep the electoral process in the hands of the people and out of
federal judicial and court systems?



Td

"TeamCasa"

in reply to Morris Dovey on 28/10/2004 9:26 AM

28/10/2004 10:51 AM

Q Would support a Federal flat rate income or sales tax?

Q How would you propose to protect the (approx)19,995 miles of land borders
and coastline of the US from drug smugglers and illegal immigration?


dD

[email protected] (David Hall)

in reply to "TeamCasa" on 28/10/2004 10:51 AM

29/10/2004 2:51 AM

>Q Would support a Federal flat rate income or sales tax?
>
>Q How would you propose to protect the (approx)19,995 miles of land borders
>and coastline of the US from drug smugglers and illegal immigration?
\
C'mon, those are questions for a different list. We were obviously building the
leftwing question list on this thread.

Dave Hall

EJ

"Eric Johnson"

in reply to Morris Dovey on 28/10/2004 9:26 AM

28/10/2004 1:23 PM


"Fletis Humplebacker" <!> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Eric Johnson"
>> Q: What is the best way to address population explosions in areas that
> lack
>> the natural resources to support them? Example Southern California, Las
>> Vegas and Phoenix needing fresh water supplies drastically beyond their
>> means.
>
>
> Stem cell research. We should start harvesting liberal's
> stem cells immediately.

Really. Now I thought that had already been done. My bad.
>
>
>
>> Q: Specifically regarding the federal electoral process: How do we as a
>> nation keep the electoral process in the hands of the people and out of
>> federal judicial and court systems?
>
>
> See above.
>
>

EJ

"Eric Johnson"

in reply to Morris Dovey on 28/10/2004 9:26 AM

28/10/2004 1:38 PM

> Yes, they have a much better chance of producing beneficial results than
> stem cells
> from conservatives, which are defective to start with.
>
> JK

I always thought liberism was a product of environment not genetic, that's
why it's more prevalent in denser populations

EJ

"Eric Johnson"

in reply to Morris Dovey on 28/10/2004 9:26 AM

28/10/2004 2:34 PM

>>
>>
> That could be. Maybe conservativism is a product of insufficient human
> contact
> in underpopulated areas.
>

No way, there is no such thing as insufficient human contact. <LOL>

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to Morris Dovey on 28/10/2004 9:26 AM

28/10/2004 4:34 PM

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to Morris Dovey on 28/10/2004 9:26 AM

31/10/2004 11:08 PM

Morris Dovey wrote:

I'd like to thank all who e-mailed their questions. The debate
will be held at Texas A&M University at Kingsville tomorrow
(Monday) night. I've asked the moderator (Dean of Students) to
make a transcription available - but still don't know if that'll
be provided.

These are the questions sent:

[1] Given that a number of developing nations - most notably
China - are placing an accelerating load on the world petroleum
supply, what steps do you believe the United States should take
(and on what schedule) to avoid the adverse effects to our
economy of soaring petroleum costs?

[2] Do you favor removing the federal restrictions on [funding
for] stem cell research? If yes, to what extent - or if no, why not?

[3] Would you favor legislation that, within the purview of the
United States, would make all persons (regardless of citizenship,
ethnicity, religion, gender, or origin) equal before the law?

[4] How do you think the United States can best further the
establishment of a lasting peace between the Israelis and
Palestinians?

[5] How might the United States improve its public education system?

[6] Reliable public transportation will become increasingly
important in coming years. To what extent should the federal
government be involved and what specific actions to you think it
should take to facilitate needed developments?

[7] Is there any part of the Constitution of the United States
that you feel has outlasted its usefulness?

(I'm especially interested in the amendments that make up the
Bill of Rights; but do intend this to be a wide-open question.)

[8] Under what circumstances do you believe it is appropriate to
mislead the American people, either by providing false
information, by telling partial truths, or by withholding
information essential to a true and complete understanding of
events and/or positions taken?

[9] Do you believe it appropriate for US firms to exercise price
discrimination against American purchasers? If not, would you
support legislation to require companies to sell their products
to Americans at a price not exceeding the lowest price at which
the product is sold outside the US?

[10] Currently, and for several decades, excess contributions to
all trust funds including Social Security are counted as general
revenue and spent in the current budget year with a government
note or IOU left in the trust fund. This results in a double
taxation, the excess tax collected today, and the tax imposed on
future generations to redeem the government note and pay benefits
to future trust fund recipients. What would you do to stop this
spending on ourselves now and passing on the debt to future
generations?

[11] What is the best way to address population explosions in
areas that lack the natural resources to support them? Example
Southern California, Las Vegas and Phoenix needing fresh water
supplies drastically beyond their means.

[12] Specifically regarding the federal electoral process: How do
we as a nation keep the electoral process in the hands of the
people and out of federal judicial and court systems?

[13] Would support a Federal flat rate income or sales tax?

[14] How would you propose to protect the (approx)19,995 miles
of land borders and coastline of the US from drug smugglers and
illegal immigration?

I don't know which, if any, of the questions will be selected;
but expect that the student panels will have a pretty good
workout by the time the debate ends. (-:

Thanks again.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

MH

"Mark Hopkins"

in reply to Morris Dovey on 28/10/2004 9:26 AM

28/10/2004 2:35 PM


"Fly-by-Night CC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [10] Would you choose a left-tilting or right-tilting tablesaw, and why?

The saw should have the right to choose because it wants to be truely free.

> [11] Should the wreck be split into two or more subgroups?

No. We should strive for unity and compassion in these hard times. <snicker>

> [12] What are your views on mailbox baseball? Do you support tort reform
> so that mail recipients may protect their box in any way they choose?

I will not put socks on my mailbox. However, I do reserve the right to store
certain select mixes of concrete in it at various times as needed.

> [13] What is your preferred finishing method for cherry?

Cherry can finish itself. I heard it prefers the swim-up bar on a beach in
sunny Mexico during the off season with Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny.

> --
> Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
> ____
>
> "To know the world intimately is the beginning of caring."
> -- Ann Hayman Zwinger

GG

Greg G.

in reply to Morris Dovey on 28/10/2004 9:26 AM

28/10/2004 11:01 AM

Charlie Self said:

>How about #10: If GWB returns to office, how intensely will you pray for his
>health and well-being (assuming D. Cheney also makes it through the process)?

LMAO
Maximally Intense!


Greg G.

JT

"James T. Kirby"

in reply to Morris Dovey on 28/10/2004 9:26 AM

28/10/2004 1:23 PM

Charlie Self wrote:
> How about #10: If GWB returns to office, how intensely will you pray for his
> health and well-being (assuming D. Cheney also makes it through the process)?
>
> Charlie Self
> "When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not
> hereditary." Thomas Paine

Now you are really depressing me.

JK



--
James T. Kirby
Center for Applied Coastal Research
University of Delaware
Newark, DE 19716

phone: 302-831-2438
fax: 302-831-1228
email: [email protected]
http://chinacat.coastal.udel.edu/~kirby

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "James T. Kirby" on 28/10/2004 1:23 PM

28/10/2004 5:39 PM

James T. Kirby responds:

>Charlie Self wrote:
>> How about #10: If GWB returns to office, how intensely will you pray for
>his
>> health and well-being (assuming D. Cheney also makes it through the
>process)?
>>
>> Charlie Self
>> "When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is
>not
>> hereditary." Thomas Paine
>
>Now you are really depressing me.
>

Oh, I dunno. As my wife says, if it were Cheney running for Prez, at least we'd
be finished with the hypocrisy. He's a prick and proud of it.

Charlie Self
"When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not
hereditary." Thomas Paine

BM

Buttonhole McGee

in reply to "James T. Kirby" on 28/10/2004 1:23 PM

28/10/2004 11:24 PM

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:39:57 +0000, Charlie Self wrote:

> Oh, I dunno. As my wife says, if it were Cheney running for Prez, at
> least we'd be finished with the hypocrisy. He's a prick and proud of it.

Gosh, Charlie, sounds like your wife might be a fan of the VP. After all,
you fit that description as well as he does.

For what it's worth, I like you both, too.

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Buttonhole McGee on 28/10/2004 11:24 PM

29/10/2004 12:18 AM

Buttonhole McGee responds:

>On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:39:57 +0000, Charlie Self wrote:
>
>> Oh, I dunno. As my wife says, if it were Cheney running for Prez, at
>> least we'd be finished with the hypocrisy. He's a prick and proud of it.
>
>Gosh, Charlie, sounds like your wife might be a fan of the VP. After all,
>you fit that description as well as he does.
>
>For what it's worth, I like you both, too

Well, I'm not a hypocrite in any way I know of, and I've been called a prick
with some frequency over the years. But, no, my wife is not a fan of Cheney.
She just prefers his openness to the hypocrisy of GWB, a man she, as a born
again Christian, finds totally despicable.

Charlie Self
"When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not
hereditary." Thomas Paine

JT

"James T. Kirby"

in reply to Morris Dovey on 28/10/2004 9:26 AM

28/10/2004 2:26 PM

Fletis Humplebacker wrote:
>
>
> Stem cell research. We should start harvesting liberal's
> stem cells immediately.

Yes, they have a much better chance of producing beneficial results than stem
cells
from conservatives, which are defective to start with.

JK

--
James T. Kirby
Center for Applied Coastal Research
University of Delaware
Newark, DE 19716

phone: 302-831-2438
fax: 302-831-1228
email: [email protected]
http://chinacat.coastal.udel.edu/~kirby

JT

"James T. Kirby"

in reply to Morris Dovey on 28/10/2004 9:26 AM

28/10/2004 2:41 PM

Eric Johnson wrote:
>>Yes, they have a much better chance of producing beneficial results than
>>stem cells
>>from conservatives, which are defective to start with.
>>
>>JK
>
>
> I always thought liberism was a product of environment not genetic, that's
> why it's more prevalent in denser populations
>
>
That could be. Maybe conservativism is a product of insufficient human contact
in underpopulated areas.


--
James T. Kirby
Center for Applied Coastal Research
University of Delaware
Newark, DE 19716

phone: 302-831-2438
fax: 302-831-1228
email: [email protected]
http://chinacat.coastal.udel.edu/~kirby

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to Morris Dovey on 28/10/2004 9:26 AM

28/10/2004 4:59 PM

Fletis Humplebacker wrote:

> "Eric Johnson"
>
>> Q: What is the best way to address population explosions in
>> areas that lack the natural resources to support them?
>> Example Southern California, Las Vegas and Phoenix needing
>> fresh water supplies drastically beyond their means.
>
> Stem cell research. We should start harvesting liberal's stem
> cells immediately.
>
>> Q: Specifically regarding the federal electoral process: How
>> do we as a nation keep the electoral process in the hands
>> of the people and out of federal judicial and court systems?
>
> See above.

Eric's post didn't make it through my server (news.qwest.net) so
I picked up the questions here. Thanks, Eric.

E-mail does work better for this. If enough people in the group
are interested, I'll post a summary of the questions; and,
when/if a transcript is made available, a link so you can see how
it went.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

FC

Fly-by-Night CC

in reply to Morris Dovey on 28/10/2004 9:26 AM

28/10/2004 11:09 AM

[10] Would you choose a left-tilting or right-tilting tablesaw, and why?

[11] Should the wreck be split into two or more subgroups?

[12] What are your views on mailbox baseball? Do you support tort reform
so that mail recipients may protect their box in any way they choose?

[13] What is your preferred finishing method for cherry?

--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
____

"To know the world intimately is the beginning of caring."
-- Ann Hayman Zwinger

FC

Fly-by-Night CC

in reply to Morris Dovey on 28/10/2004 9:26 AM

31/10/2004 10:04 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'd like to thank all who e-mailed their questions.

Morris, you didn't include any of my questions about left vs. right
tilt, cherry finishing, splitting the wreck *or* mailbox baseball. I'm
so disappointed. :(

--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
____

"To know the world intimately is the beginning of caring."
-- Ann Hayman Zwinger


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