On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 2:44:30 PM UTC-4, Clare wrote:
> It's in a joist pree drilled
> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/fz
> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/g0
I would not rely on on a lag screw, especially where it could spin/rotate. =
I put a pair of 2x4's with 1/2" plywood spacers across 2 joists (attic) and=
used a threaded eye bolt/locknut and a 3/4" plywood "washer" to hang a sim=
ilar chair, and likewise on a "floating" corner of a loft bed, rather than =
a corner post to the floor...
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:04:18 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 8/22/2018 7:04 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:26:48 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/22/2018 4:09 PM, dpb wrote:
>>>> On 8/22/2018 1:44 PM, Clare wrote:
>>>>> It's in a joist pree drilled
>>>>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/fz
>>>>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/g0
>>>>
>>>> As Leon says, the screw should have full thread depth in the wood; we
>>>> don't know what size the screw is nor pilot hole was drilled so can't
>>>> comment on what might be the actual installed strength of the connection.
>>>>
>>>> "Safe" depends on what the maximum working load is going to be as well
>>>> from a purely practical standpoint without consideration of any
>>>> code-like rules...
>>>
>>> And let's not even speak to the load capacity of the cord, the canvas
>>> (?) seating, the weight of the occupant, the. .
>>
>> Person I used to know made slings for people who engage in
>> "alternative lifestyles". His general rule was that if it wouldn't
>> hold a Hemi, it wasn't strong enough (yes, he had a large Chrysler
>> engine that he used as a test article).
>>
>
>Some people weigh more than a typical V* engine.
Static vs active load.
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 20:36:30 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:04:18 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>wrote:
>
>>On 8/22/2018 7:04 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>> On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:26:48 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/22/2018 4:09 PM, dpb wrote:
>>>>> On 8/22/2018 1:44 PM, Clare wrote:
>>>>>> It's in a joist pree drilled
>>>>>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/fz
>>>>>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/g0
>>>>>
>>>>> As Leon says, the screw should have full thread depth in the wood; we
>>>>> don't know what size the screw is nor pilot hole was drilled so can't
>>>>> comment on what might be the actual installed strength of the connection.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Safe" depends on what the maximum working load is going to be as well
>>>>> from a purely practical standpoint without consideration of any
>>>>> code-like rules...
>>>>
>>>> And let's not even speak to the load capacity of the cord, the canvas
>>>> (?) seating, the weight of the occupant, the. .
>>>
>>> Person I used to know made slings for people who engage in
>>> "alternative lifestyles". His general rule was that if it wouldn't
>>> hold a Hemi, it wasn't strong enough (yes, he had a large Chrysler
>>> engine that he used as a test article).
>>>
>>
>>Some people weigh more than a typical V* engine.
>
>Static vs active load.
Anybody who weights more than 700 pounds probably won't be playing in
a sling.
On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 16:29:21 -0400, Clare Snyder <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 22:15:03 -0400, J. Clarke
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 20:36:30 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:04:18 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 8/22/2018 7:04 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:26:48 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/22/2018 4:09 PM, dpb wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/22/2018 1:44 PM, Clare wrote:
>>>>>>>> It's in a joist pree drilled
>>>>>>>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/fz
>>>>>>>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/g0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As Leon says, the screw should have full thread depth in the wood; we
>>>>>>> don't know what size the screw is nor pilot hole was drilled so can't
>>>>>>> comment on what might be the actual installed strength of the connection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Safe" depends on what the maximum working load is going to be as well
>>>>>>> from a purely practical standpoint without consideration of any
>>>>>>> code-like rules...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And let's not even speak to the load capacity of the cord, the canvas
>>>>>> (?) seating, the weight of the occupant, the. .
>>>>>
>>>>> Person I used to know made slings for people who engage in
>>>>> "alternative lifestyles". His general rule was that if it wouldn't
>>>>> hold a Hemi, it wasn't strong enough (yes, he had a large Chrysler
>>>>> engine that he used as a test article).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Some people weigh more than a typical V* engine.
>>>
>>>Static vs active load.
>>
>>Anybody who weights more than 700 pounds probably won't be playing in
>>a sling.
> But 200 lbs in action exerts more force on that hook than a hanging
>700lb hemi!!!!
Which is why he bounces it.
On 8/22/2018 3:22 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 2:44:30 PM UTC-4, Clare wrote:
>> It's in a joist pree drilled
>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/fz
>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/g0
>
> I would not rely on on a lag screw, especially where it could spin/rotate. I put a pair of 2x4's with 1/2" plywood spacers across 2 joists (attic) and used a threaded eye bolt/locknut and a 3/4" plywood "washer" to hang a similar chair, and likewise on a "floating" corner of a loft bed, rather than a corner post to the floor...
>
I agree. Don't drill a hole to weaken the one joist you are using to
support the load. Spread the load over two or more joists.
On 8/22/2018 4:09 PM, dpb wrote:
> On 8/22/2018 1:44 PM, Clare wrote:
>> It's in a joist pree drilled
>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/fz
>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/g0
>
> As Leon says, the screw should have full thread depth in the wood; we
> don't know what size the screw is nor pilot hole was drilled so can't
> comment on what might be the actual installed strength of the connection.
>
> "Safe" depends on what the maximum working load is going to be as well
> from a purely practical standpoint without consideration of any
> code-like rules...
And let's not even speak to the load capacity of the cord, the canvas
(?) seating, the weight of the occupant, the. . .
Sonny <[email protected]> writes:
>On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 1:44:30 PM UTC-5, Clare wrote:
>> It's in a joist pree drilled
>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/fz
>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/g0
>
>Porch swings are hung using eye bolts. It depends on how large (diameter) the eye bolt is and how long it is, to have more than enough threads into the joist. I wouldn't trust or feel comfortable with a 1/4" eye bolt, which looks, to me, what that is.
>
>I vote: No.
>
>Sonny
https://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-information/eye-bolts/Forged-Eye-Bolt-Working-Load-Limits.aspx
two 1/4" eye bolts (forged, fully closed eye, not home depot) should support a load
of 1000 pounds.
for non-forged (wire, i.e. not fully closed) eye bolts, the limit is 50# per each 1/4"
On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 1:44:30 PM UTC-5, Clare wrote:
> It's in a joist pree drilled
> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/fz
> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/g0
Porch swings are hung using eye bolts. It depends on how large (diameter) the eye bolt is and how long it is, to have more than enough threads into the joist. I wouldn't trust or feel comfortable with a 1/4" eye bolt, which looks, to me, what that is.
I vote: No.
Sonny
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:26:48 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 8/22/2018 4:09 PM, dpb wrote:
>> On 8/22/2018 1:44 PM, Clare wrote:
>>> It's in a joist pree drilled
>>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/fz
>>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/g0
>>
>> As Leon says, the screw should have full thread depth in the wood; we
>> don't know what size the screw is nor pilot hole was drilled so can't
>> comment on what might be the actual installed strength of the connection.
>>
>> "Safe" depends on what the maximum working load is going to be as well
>> from a purely practical standpoint without consideration of any
>> code-like rules...
>
>And let's not even speak to the load capacity of the cord, the canvas
>(?) seating, the weight of the occupant, the. .
Person I used to know made slings for people who engage in
"alternative lifestyles". His general rule was that if it wouldn't
hold a Hemi, it wasn't strong enough (yes, he had a large Chrysler
engine that he used as a test article).
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 22:15:03 -0400, J. Clarke
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 20:36:30 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:04:18 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 8/22/2018 7:04 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:26:48 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/22/2018 4:09 PM, dpb wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/22/2018 1:44 PM, Clare wrote:
>>>>>>> It's in a joist pree drilled
>>>>>>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/fz
>>>>>>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/g0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As Leon says, the screw should have full thread depth in the wood; we
>>>>>> don't know what size the screw is nor pilot hole was drilled so can't
>>>>>> comment on what might be the actual installed strength of the connection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Safe" depends on what the maximum working load is going to be as well
>>>>>> from a purely practical standpoint without consideration of any
>>>>>> code-like rules...
>>>>>
>>>>> And let's not even speak to the load capacity of the cord, the canvas
>>>>> (?) seating, the weight of the occupant, the. .
>>>>
>>>> Person I used to know made slings for people who engage in
>>>> "alternative lifestyles". His general rule was that if it wouldn't
>>>> hold a Hemi, it wasn't strong enough (yes, he had a large Chrysler
>>>> engine that he used as a test article).
>>>>
>>>
>>>Some people weigh more than a typical V* engine.
>>
>>Static vs active load.
>
>Anybody who weights more than 700 pounds probably won't be playing in
>a sling.
But 200 lbs in action exerts more force on that hook than a hanging
700lb hemi!!!!
On 8/22/2018 7:04 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:26:48 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 8/22/2018 4:09 PM, dpb wrote:
>>> On 8/22/2018 1:44 PM, Clare wrote:
>>>> It's in a joist pree drilled
>>>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/fz
>>>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/g0
>>>
>>> As Leon says, the screw should have full thread depth in the wood; we
>>> don't know what size the screw is nor pilot hole was drilled so can't
>>> comment on what might be the actual installed strength of the connection.
>>>
>>> "Safe" depends on what the maximum working load is going to be as well
>>> from a purely practical standpoint without consideration of any
>>> code-like rules...
>>
>> And let's not even speak to the load capacity of the cord, the canvas
>> (?) seating, the weight of the occupant, the. .
>
> Person I used to know made slings for people who engage in
> "alternative lifestyles". His general rule was that if it wouldn't
> hold a Hemi, it wasn't strong enough (yes, he had a large Chrysler
> engine that he used as a test article).
>
Some people weigh more than a typical V* engine.
On 8/22/2018 1:44 PM, Clare wrote:
> It's in a joist pree drilled
> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/fz
> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/g0
As Leon says, the screw should have full thread depth in the wood; we
don't know what size the screw is nor pilot hole was drilled so can't
comment on what might be the actual installed strength of the connection.
"Safe" depends on what the maximum working load is going to be as well
from a purely practical standpoint without consideration of any
code-like rules...
--
On 8/24/2018 6:07 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 16:29:21 -0400, Clare Snyder <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 22:15:03 -0400, J. Clarke
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 20:36:30 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:04:18 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/22/2018 7:04 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 17:26:48 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/22/2018 4:09 PM, dpb wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/22/2018 1:44 PM, Clare wrote:
>>>>>>>>> It's in a joist pree drilled
>>>>>>>>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/fz
>>>>>>>>> https://www.homeownershub.com/img/g0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As Leon says, the screw should have full thread depth in the wood; we
>>>>>>>> don't know what size the screw is nor pilot hole was drilled so can't
>>>>>>>> comment on what might be the actual installed strength of the connection.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Safe" depends on what the maximum working load is going to be as well
>>>>>>>> from a purely practical standpoint without consideration of any
>>>>>>>> code-like rules...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And let's not even speak to the load capacity of the cord, the canvas
>>>>>>> (?) seating, the weight of the occupant, the. .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Person I used to know made slings for people who engage in
>>>>>> "alternative lifestyles". His general rule was that if it wouldn't
>>>>>> hold a Hemi, it wasn't strong enough (yes, he had a large Chrysler
>>>>>> engine that he used as a test article).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Some people weigh more than a typical V* engine.
>>>>
>>>> Static vs active load.
>>>
>>> Anybody who weights more than 700 pounds probably won't be playing in
>>> a sling.
>> But 200 lbs in action exerts more force on that hook than a hanging
>> 700lb hemi!!!!
>
> Which is why he bounces it.
>
Does he spin it too?