"Leon" <removespamlcb11211@swbell.net> wrote in message
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| "Robatoy" <Counterfitter@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| I have had a Zircon cheapie for 20 years. It finds lots of stuff. Just
| a row of LED's none of this LCD crap. One thing that is wrong with it
| is that it doesn't know if it is a stud or a pocket door that is
| lurking behind the drywall. Those pocket doors don't slide well with a
| 3" screw in them... or so I'm told.
Reminds me of an associate's tail of woe... he wanted to hang an antique
pool table light over his pool table. He used a stud locator to find the
ceiling joist, marked and drilled. With that water came pissing down on his
pool table...
John
"Chris Friesen" <cbf123@mail.usask.ca> wrote in message
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> I've got a cheapy Zircon one. Works fine with drywall and thin panel
> board, not so well going through lath&plaster or 3/4" ply.
My Zircon edge-finder does okay on plaster/lath most of the time, although
there's always one stud on every wall it doesn't want to see for some
reason. It alerts me to electric wiring as well, although it alerts so far
away that it's useless for finding where the wire actually is, it just tells
me there is one there someplace. A stud finder that could easily and
reliably tell wood from metal and find electric wiring to within a couple of
inches would be on my shopping list in a flash.
David Starr wrote:
> I'm about to go looking for studs. Anything better than the tradition
> tap tap tap trick?
>
>
I'm one of those who bought a Wizard cheapo. It will pick up the
presence of a metal electrical box behind 5/8" dry wall. Nails? Not so
much. I bought it because I was using a fair amount of reclaimed wood
(redwood decking) for some furniture. I found I could do better by
running the belt sander followed by the vacuum and looking for tears in
the paper or a shiny glint in the wood. If nothing else, I could smell
them out better than the "Wizard" could detect.
grumble, bitch, whine, complain, grouse,...
jo4hn
On Jan 24, 5:30=A0pm, "Leon" <removespamlcb11...@swbell.net> wrote:
> "David Starr" <dstarrbos...@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
>
> news:47990dd3$0$17358$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> > =A0 I'm about to go looking for studs. =A0Anything better than the tradi=
tion
> > tap tap tap trick?
>
> > --
> > David J. Starr
>
> > Blog: =A0www.newsnorthwoods.blogspot.com
>
> Yeah I go up to the pile that says Studs and not the pile that says 2x4's =
-
> 8'..
>
> Sorry!
>
> I use the sensor that you calibrate and then slide to find the more dense
> spot. =A0Unfortunately those are not always working correctly when I use t=
hem.
> To be sure I will double check a location by pushing a brad through the
> sheet rock and feel for resistance.
I have had a Zircon cheapie for 20 years. It finds lots of stuff. Just
a row of LED's none of this LCD crap. One thing that is wrong with it
is that it doesn't know if it is a stud or a pocket door that is
lurking behind the drywall. Those pocket doors don't slide well with a
3" screw in them... or so I'm told.
On Jan 24, 5:14 pm, David Starr <dstarrbos...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> I'm about to go looking for studs. Anything better than the
> tradition tap tap tap trick?
Metal mesh jams the electronic stud finders. If you hold a
lamp close to the wall, can you see dimples over the
nail heads in columns 16" apart?
On Jan 24, 4:14=A0pm, David Starr <dstarrbos...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> =A0 =A0I'm about to go looking for studs. =A0Anything better than the
> tradition tap tap tap trick?
>
> --
> David J. Starr
>
> Blog: =A0www.newsnorthwoods.blogspot.com
Here's a new way to go. Haven't used one but looks interesting.
http://www.magicstudfinder.com/
David Starr wrote:
> I'm about to go looking for studs. Anything better than the tradition
> tap tap tap trick?
>
>
You could try buyin' him a few beers...
I've had a few Zircon models. Depending on the wall composition they
sometimes work. I find a finishing nail and a hammer to be the
best/surest way to find them.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
novasys@verizon.net
"Robatoy" <Counterfitter@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I have had a Zircon cheapie for 20 years. It finds lots of stuff. Just
a row of LED's none of this LCD crap. One thing that is wrong with it
is that it doesn't know if it is a stud or a pocket door that is
lurking behind the drywall. Those pocket doors don't slide well with a
3" screw in them... or so I'm told.
LOL , Glad to hear that I am not the only one that fixes doors so that they
don't move. My dad's side garage door needed to be rehung so that it would
not bind when closing. After repositioning the jam I used my finish nail
gun to reapplied the trim and a couple of the nails went into the door.
In article <13pi46q8gcanb38@corp.supernews.com>, cbf123@mail.usask.ca
says...
> David Starr wrote:
> > I'm about to go looking for studs. Anything better than the tradition
> > tap tap tap trick?
>
> I've got a cheapy Zircon one. Works fine with drywall and thin panel
> board, not so well going through lath&plaster or 3/4" ply.
>
> Chris
I got a middling priced one at Home Depot. It works
very well.
S.
lucky4fingers wrote:
> David Starr <dstarrboston@roadrunner.com> wrote in news:47990dd3$0$17358
> $4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
>
>> I'm about to go looking for studs. Anything better than the
>>tradition tap tap tap trick?
>>
>>
>
>
> Well - Stud finders stay one constantly when I use em, so I always have my
> wife use the stud finder. She's pretty good at it. :)
Great question.
My complaint is that the better zircom models have LCD screens and not
LEDs. To see the screen you have to be directly looking at it. In an
existing house with lots of furniture or hard to reach walls, that is
not so easy. I also do not like that most of the models can find live
AC, but you can NOT turn off the sound... a great annoyance.
That being said, Ive played with them at Home Depot and the StudSensor
i65 OneStep does seem to work the best.
I see another model StudSensor i60 OneStep with LEDs but I have not
seen that one at a store.
I also now see from the zircon web site that zircon has two types
Those
that find the edge, and those that find the edge + the center. Ill
need to test some more
David Starr <dstarrboston@roadrunner.com> wrote in news:47990dd3$0$17358
$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
> I'm about to go looking for studs. Anything better than the
> tradition tap tap tap trick?
>
>
Well - Stud finders stay one constantly when I use em, so I always have my
wife use the stud finder. She's pretty good at it. :)
"David Starr" <dstarrboston@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
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> I'm about to go looking for studs. Anything better than the tradition
> tap tap tap trick?
>
>
> --
> David J. Starr
>
> Blog: www.newsnorthwoods.blogspot.com
I had to get rid of mine....
Darn thing buzzed every time I walked by it!
<GD&R>
Tom
> I'm about to go looking for studs. Anything better than the
>tradition tap tap tap trick?
I've used a Zircon type for years. I'm no pro and there's nothing too
tricky about my wood-framed, 5/8" wallboarded house, but it's always
worked well enough for me. I always test with a thin nail, and the
meter has never been wrong.
Just read the directions.
-Zz
On Jan 25, 4:54 pm, brian_j_r...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Jan 24, 4:14 pm, David Starr <dstarrbos...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm about to go looking for studs. Anything better than the
> > tradition tap tap tap trick?
>
> > --
> > David J. Starr
>
> > Blog: www.newsnorthwoods.blogspot.com
>
> Here's a new way to go. Haven't used one but looks interesting.
>
> http://www.magicstudfinder.com/
Look like surplus hard drive magnets.
Nice looking product, but what does Radio Shack get for a pack
of rare earth magnets?
On Jan 24, 5:14 pm, David Starr <dstarrbos...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> I'm about to go looking for studs. Anything better than the
> tradition tap tap tap trick?
>
> --
> David J. Starr
>
> Blog: www.newsnorthwoods.blogspot.com
I bought a B&D Laser Level thing with a Stud Finder included. Is
rather large (about 4" w x 7" h x 1.5" thick. It does OK - but I still
check with a Pin (in drywall) in an area that won't be seen (where
possible) just in case. I've tried several others and taken them back
to the stores over the years. If you get one, keep your receipt and
take it back if it doesn't work for you!
brian_j_roth@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Jan 24, 4:14 pm, David Starr <dstarrbos...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>> I'm about to go looking for studs. Anything better than the
>> tradition tap tap tap trick?
>>
>> --
>> David J. Starr
>>
>> Blog: www.newsnorthwoods.blogspot.com
>
> Here's a new way to go. Haven't used one but looks interesting.
>
> http://www.magicstudfinder.com/
The method I use has limited usefulness,
but for that it works flawlessly. I have
one of those telescopic magnets that
looks like a pen. It telescopes to about
30".
Originally I used just that to find
drywall screws, but it was iffy at best.
Then I epoxied a rare earth magnet on
the original magnet.
This damned thing nearly stands straight
out from the wall when it hits a screw.
I've never used to find hidden elect.
boxes, but it might work there too.
I suppose that's what's in the box that
brian's link is using too.
--
Tanus
This is not really a sig.
http://www.home.mycybernet.net/~waugh/shop/
In article <47990dd3$0$17358$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, David Starr <dstarrboston@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> I'm about to go looking for studs. Anything better than the
>tradition tap tap tap trick?
I have a Zircon model that works fairly well. I normally
take several measurements at different heights and try to
map all of the stud in the work area. Most of the studs in
my home are placed on the standard 16in centers and this
serves as a pretty useful sanity check.
Don't expect to get good results with a "quick swipe". But
if you work carefully and systematically you should be able
to produce an accurate map.
--
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| Malcolm Hoar "The more I practice, the luckier I get". |
| malch@malch.com Gary Player. |
| http://www.malch.com/ Shpx gur PQN. |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>I have had a Zircon cheapie for 20 years. It finds lots of stuff. Just
>a row of LED's none of this LCD crap. One thing that is wrong with it
>is that it doesn't know if it is a stud or a pocket door that is
>lurking behind the drywall. Those pocket doors don't slide well with a
>3" screw in them... or so I'm told.
Yeah. I once installed a new toilet paper hanger on a wall with the
pocket door in the open position, right behind the wall. All 4 screw
holes that I drilled in the wall were clearly apparent in the pocket
door once in the closed position.
Lesson learned.
-Zz
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:27:38 -0600, Chris Friesen
<cbf123@mail.usask.ca> wrote:
>I've got a cheapy Zircon one. Works fine with drywall and thin panel
>board, not so well going through lath&plaster or 3/4" ply.
There's actually a new one that I saw that detects the nails in the
studs, not the studs themselves, thus solving the lath&plaster
problem. Of course, that only works if you go over a nail...
Blog Me! http://BitchSpot.JadeDragonOnline.com
"David Starr" <dstarrboston@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
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> I'm about to go looking for studs. Anything better than the tradition
> tap tap tap trick?
>
>
> --
> David J. Starr
>
> Blog: www.newsnorthwoods.blogspot.com
Yeah I go up to the pile that says Studs and not the pile that says 2x4's -
8'..
Sorry!
I use the sensor that you calibrate and then slide to find the more dense
spot. Unfortunately those are not always working correctly when I use them.
To be sure I will double check a location by pushing a brad through the
sheet rock and feel for resistance.
"David Starr" <dstarrboston@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
news:47990dd3$0$17358$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> I'm about to go looking for studs. Anything better than the tradition
> tap tap tap trick?
The stud finder I have is an older one and doesn't work worth a crap. I
have found my best stud finder is either to drill holes or use a strong
magnet to locate the screws/nails holding the rock on (assuming drywall
here). It's not perfect but works.
Cheers,
cc