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Meanie

24/12/2013 12:41 PM

Door Panel Question

This may be a stupid question, but this stupid person doesn't know the
answer.

When making panel doors, do you glue the panels in the slots or not glue
them? I thought I recalled reading/hearing about not gluing them to
allow expansion/contraction movement, but I have also seen videos of
people gluing them.

Thank you

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Leon

in reply to Meanie on 24/12/2013 12:41 PM

24/12/2013 11:20 PM

<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 12:41:53 -0500, Meanie <[email protected]>
>> When making panel doors, do you glue the panels in the slots or not glue
>> them? I thought I recalled reading/hearing about not gluing them to
>> allow expansion/contraction movement, but I have also seen videos of
>> people gluing them.
>
> Another thing that is popular among many is the use of panel barrels.
> Nothing glued in place, but they keep panels centred.
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=58675&cat=1,250,43298

The panel is going nowhere. It need no glue. Especially no glue if the
panel is solid wood.

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Digger

in reply to Meanie on 24/12/2013 12:41 PM

25/12/2013 8:59 AM

On 12/25/2013 12:20 AM, Leon wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 12:41:53 -0500, Meanie <[email protected]>
>>> When making panel doors, do you glue the panels in the slots or not glue
>>> them? I thought I recalled reading/hearing about not gluing them to
>>> allow expansion/contraction movement, but I have also seen videos of
>>> people gluing them.
>>
>> Another thing that is popular among many is the use of panel barrels.
>> Nothing glued in place, but they keep panels centred.
>>
>> http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=58675&cat=1,250,43298
>
> The panel is going nowhere. It need no glue. Especially no glue if the
> panel is solid wood.
>
Agreed! Also don't see the need for Bucky balls or barrels when common
ordinary weather stripping or screening spline works just as well...

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n

in reply to Meanie on 24/12/2013 12:41 PM

24/12/2013 9:01 PM

On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 12:41:53 -0500, Meanie <[email protected]>
>When making panel doors, do you glue the panels in the slots or not glue
>them? I thought I recalled reading/hearing about not gluing them to
>allow expansion/contraction movement, but I have also seen videos of
>people gluing them.

Another thing that is popular among many is the use of panel barrels.
Nothing glued in place, but they keep panels centred.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=58675&cat=1,250,43298

c

in reply to Meanie on 24/12/2013 12:41 PM

24/12/2013 3:10 PM

On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 12:41:53 -0500, Meanie <[email protected]>
wrote:

>This may be a stupid question, but this stupid person doesn't know the
>answer.
>
>When making panel doors, do you glue the panels in the slots or not glue
>them? I thought I recalled reading/hearing about not gluing them to
>allow expansion/contraction movement, but I have also seen videos of
>people gluing them.
>
>Thank you
>
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I like to glue them at one spot - bottom center - to keep them from
shifting if I can't use a compressible spline all around to allow them
to move, bur self center.

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woodchucker

in reply to Meanie on 24/12/2013 12:41 PM

24/12/2013 12:48 PM

On 12/24/2013 12:41 PM, Meanie wrote:
> This may be a stupid question, but this stupid person doesn't know the
> answer.
>
> When making panel doors, do you glue the panels in the slots or not glue
> them? I thought I recalled reading/hearing about not gluing them to
> allow expansion/contraction movement, but I have also seen videos of
> people gluing them.
>
> Thank you
>
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You do not glue them if they are real wood.
You can put a dot of glue in the middle of the top and bottom rails.
so that the expansion is toward the edges.

If it's ply you can get away with more gluing.

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LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to Meanie on 24/12/2013 12:41 PM

24/12/2013 6:09 PM

On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 12:48:47 -0500, woodchucker wrote:

> You do not glue them if they are real wood. You can put a dot of glue in
> the middle of the top and bottom rails. so that the expansion is toward
> the edges.
>
> If it's ply you can get away with more gluing.

Plus glued in plywood panels become structural elements so you don't need
quite as strong construction. With a 1/4" wide glue surface all the way
around each panel, even stub tenons are enough.

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Meanie

in reply to Meanie on 24/12/2013 12:41 PM

25/12/2013 2:38 PM

I'm using 1/4" birch plywood for my panels. They are small closet
bi-fold doors. I made them snug enough to eliminate the need for glue.
Thus far, I'm happy with the results.

Thanks for the info.

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