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[email protected] (PC Gameplayer)

02/04/2004 7:59 AM

Planing a 2X4...

I need to cut some 2X4s down to about 3 inches wide for a skirt on a
benchtop. I don't really want to run them through the tablesaw, as
(right now) I don't have anything to support them on the outfeed side.
I do have a planer, so I thought about standing them up on their ends
(i.e., the 2" side down on the bottom, and the 4" side being
vertical), and reducing their width that way. Anyone ever tried this,
or am I just asking for trouble?

Jim


This topic has 11 replies

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to [email protected] (PC Gameplayer) on 02/04/2004 7:59 AM

02/04/2004 7:32 PM

In article <[email protected]>, PC
Gameplayer <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't really want to run them through the tablesaw, as
> (right now) I don't have anything to support them on the outfeed side.

Not even a friend, spouse or kid?

--
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BR

"Bernard Randall"

in reply to [email protected] (PC Gameplayer) on 02/04/2004 7:59 AM

02/04/2004 2:06 PM


"PC Gameplayer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I need to cut some 2X4s down to about 3 inches wide for a skirt on a
> benchtop. I don't really want to run them through the tablesaw, as
> (right now) I don't have anything to support them on the outfeed side.
> I do have a planer, so I thought about standing them up on their ends
> (i.e., the 2" side down on the bottom, and the 4" side being
> vertical), and reducing their width that way. Anyone ever tried this,
> or am I just asking for trouble?
>
> Jim

Don't forget regular 2x4s in reality are 1 1/2 x 3 1/2. As others on the
thread have already said, yes you can plane it down but first you need to be
connected to a good DC or you'll get a face full of shavings; 2) keep a very
careful watch so you don't taper the stock.

My own preference would be one roller on the outfeed side and a TS. There
are people who are comfortable enough to walk around the saw and pull, but
in that case I would have some form of feather board in front of the blade
and another downwards from the fence; in general I don't consider it good
practice if for no other reason you can't instantly get to the OFF switch.

Bernard R

HW

Hoyt Weathers

in reply to [email protected] (PC Gameplayer) on 02/04/2004 7:59 AM

02/04/2004 10:39 AM

Doug Miller wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (PC Gameplayer) wrote:
> >I need to cut some 2X4s down to about 3 inches wide for a skirt on a
> >benchtop. I don't really want to run them through the tablesaw, as
> >(right now) I don't have anything to support them on the outfeed side.
> > I do have a planer, so I thought about standing them up on their ends
> >(i.e., the 2" side down on the bottom, and the 4" side being
> >vertical), and reducing their width that way. Anyone ever tried this,
> >or am I just asking for trouble?
> >
> No, it works fine. Knots in the edge may be a problem, so keep the depth of
> cut shallow.
>
> You might want to joint one edge first, before you plane the other edge.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
>
> For a copy of my TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter,
> send email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com

Also be aware of potential or probable snipe on each end of your 2by and allow for the two ends with the
snipe to be cut off. There are ways to minimize or eliminate snipe.

Good luck!
Hoyt Weathers

Td

"TeamCasa"

in reply to [email protected] (PC Gameplayer) on 02/04/2004 7:59 AM

02/04/2004 9:12 AM

Snip
>
> Cut to past the middle and flip it over to cut from the other end...or,
> use a circular saw with a rip guide...or...
>
> Carpentry/woodworking is just applied common sense trying to keep both
> eyes and all ten fingers intact. With that in mind, learn how to operate
> the table saw pushing the stock through and, holding the wood tightly to
> the fence and flat, walk to the "outfeed" side of the saw and pull the
> last part of the wood toward you. Note: Do not make contact with the
> spinning saw blade with anything other than the wood to be cut. This
> last operation requires balance, nerve, and strength, and in some
> jurisdictions may be illegal.
>
> Overthinking problems leads to trouble: Bush simply committed treason
> with 9/11, for Big Oil, but what should be expected from a draft-dodger
> whose father killed Kennedy and King and whose grandfather was Hitler's
> early money for Rockefeller and Rome?
> --
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> POB 250121 Atlanta GA 30325
> 404/626-2840


You have to be kidding.
This is the worst, most dangerous advise I have seen, short of pure
trolling, I have seen in years.
The OP just wants to rip a 2x4 down a 1/2" for a work bench. His concern is
the lack of outfeed room for his table saw and if planing would work.

He should be able to rip the 2x4 on any decent TS safely if the board is 6'
or less without outfeed support. Both Doug's and Hoyt's advise is correct.
However, I would add that if the 2x4 is too long for the TS, it might also
have problems with planing it.

I would suggest making a tempoary outfeed support for the TS and rip it.


BTY Everyone knows Johnson killed Kennedy and the French pulled the WMD's
out of Iraq to save face.

Dave





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Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>

in reply to [email protected] (PC Gameplayer) on 02/04/2004 7:59 AM

02/04/2004 5:07 PM

On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 11:25:56 -0500, Wm Jones <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Overthinking problems leads to trouble:

Could you cite an example please?

> Bush simply committed treason
>with 9/11, for Big Oil, but what should be expected from a draft-dodger
>whose father killed Kennedy and King and whose grandfather was Hitler's
>early money for Rockefeller and Rome?

Thanks. I get it now.

Michael

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to [email protected] (PC Gameplayer) on 02/04/2004 7:59 AM

02/04/2004 4:16 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (PC Gameplayer) wrote:
>I need to cut some 2X4s down to about 3 inches wide for a skirt on a
>benchtop. I don't really want to run them through the tablesaw, as
>(right now) I don't have anything to support them on the outfeed side.
> I do have a planer, so I thought about standing them up on their ends
>(i.e., the 2" side down on the bottom, and the 4" side being
>vertical), and reducing their width that way. Anyone ever tried this,
>or am I just asking for trouble?
>
No, it works fine. Knots in the edge may be a problem, so keep the depth of
cut shallow.

You might want to joint one edge first, before you plane the other edge.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)

For a copy of my TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter,
send email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to [email protected] (Doug Miller) on 02/04/2004 4:16 PM

02/04/2004 6:36 PM

Doug Miller responds:

>> I do have a planer, so I thought about standing them up on their ends
>>(i.e., the 2" side down on the bottom, and the 4" side being
>>vertical), and reducing their width that way. Anyone ever tried this,
>>or am I just asking for trouble?
>>
>No, it works fine. Knots in the edge may be a problem, so keep the depth of
>cut shallow.
>
>You might want to joint one edge first, before you plane the other edge.

Joint one edge, then gang them with clamps and joint the other edges at one
time (unless there are too many--then gang them in smaller groups). Make small
cuts, as you say.

No problems at all this way unless you leave the clamps up where the knives
will hit. Then it gets noisy.

Charlie Self
"The function of posterity is to look after itself." Dylan Thomas

BD

"Bob Davis"

in reply to [email protected] (PC Gameplayer) on 02/04/2004 7:59 AM

02/04/2004 5:04 PM


"Wm Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (PC Gameplayer) wrote:

> With that in mind, learn how to operate
> the table saw pushing the stock through and, holding the wood tightly to
> the fence and flat, walk to the "outfeed" side of the saw and pull the
> last part of the wood toward you.

A tablesaw is a very efficient tool for narrowing long stock. I now have a
55" long outfeed table derived from a damaged foldup conference table.
Until then I used the pull technique you described but with the Grip-tite
2000 fence system. I lack the nerve to do it without the grip-tites.

Bob

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to [email protected] (PC Gameplayer) on 02/04/2004 7:59 AM

02/04/2004 10:25 PM


"PC Gameplayer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
...
> I need to cut some 2X4s down to about 3 inches wide for a skirt on a
> benchtop. I don't really want to run them through the tablesaw, as
> (right now) I don't have anything to support them on the outfeed side.

Seems to me that planing something that long will still require an outfeed
table and it will take quite a few passes to take off 1/2".

Why not just recruit your wife, or mother, or son, or the paperboy to be
your outfeed? All you have to do is support the piece with one hand for the
last couple of feet as it leaves the blade. The whole job will be over in
less than 10 minutes.
Ed


CC

"ClemsonDave"

in reply to [email protected] (PC Gameplayer) on 02/04/2004 7:59 AM

02/04/2004 12:51 PM

Go get a $19 roller stand from HD, Lowes, Woodcraft, etc. Use table saw. I
used two of these until I built an outfeed table. I still use them cutting
sheet goods, as an infeed extension.

dave


"PC Gameplayer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I need to cut some 2X4s down to about 3 inches wide for a skirt on a
> benchtop. I don't really want to run them through the tablesaw, as
> (right now) I don't have anything to support them on the outfeed side.
> I do have a planer, so I thought about standing them up on their ends
> (i.e., the 2" side down on the bottom, and the 4" side being
> vertical), and reducing their width that way. Anyone ever tried this,
> or am I just asking for trouble?
>
> Jim

WJ

Wm Jones

in reply to [email protected] (PC Gameplayer) on 02/04/2004 7:59 AM

02/04/2004 11:25 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (PC Gameplayer) wrote:

> I need to cut some 2X4s down to about 3 inches wide for a skirt on a
> benchtop. I don't really want to run them through the tablesaw, as
> (right now) I don't have anything to support them on the outfeed side.
> I do have a planer, so I thought about standing them up on their ends
> (i.e., the 2" side down on the bottom, and the 4" side being
> vertical), and reducing their width that way. Anyone ever tried this,
> or am I just asking for trouble?
>
> Jim

Cut to past the middle and flip it over to cut from the other end...or,
use a circular saw with a rip guide...or...

Carpentry/woodworking is just applied common sense trying to keep both
eyes and all ten fingers intact. With that in mind, learn how to operate
the table saw pushing the stock through and, holding the wood tightly to
the fence and flat, walk to the "outfeed" side of the saw and pull the
last part of the wood toward you. Note: Do not make contact with the
spinning saw blade with anything other than the wood to be cut. This
last operation requires balance, nerve, and strength, and in some
jurisdictions may be illegal.

Overthinking problems leads to trouble: Bush simply committed treason
with 9/11, for Big Oil, but what should be expected from a draft-dodger
whose father killed Kennedy and King and whose grandfather was Hitler's
early money for Rockefeller and Rome?
--
Doors - Locks - Weatherstripping
POB 250121 Atlanta GA 30325
404/626-2840


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