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[email protected] (WoodChuck34)

24/07/2003 1:17 PM

cheap MDF shelving

I have a 16 month and 7 week old and have been finishing my basement
so we have a place for them to play and to get their toys/books out of
the way. Basically it a big cage! Anyway, I am building cabinets
around about a 1/4 of the room. Its probably a good 25' or 30' of
wall space so to keep the cost down I am using MDF for the carcases.
My question is:

Is it alright to use MDF for fixed shelving in cabinets that are at
most 36" wide or am I going to experience just too much sag?

I can use 3/4" MDF as a backer so that should add to the stiffness. I
am also planning on a poplar face frame, but is that enough? These
cabinets will problaby be used mostly for books, toys, DVD's, etc.
The weight of the books could get substantial but that would be about
it.

Any help would be appreciated.

Chuck


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ts

"tnfkajs"

in reply to [email protected] (WoodChuck34) on 24/07/2003 1:17 PM

24/07/2003 2:55 PM


> The weight of the books could get substantial but that would be about

My shelves are 30" and hold CD's, DVDs, Video, Childrens books, and toys.
No sag at 30" w/ 3/4" MDF.

>
> Any help would be appreciated.

Don't forget to strap/screw/attach these to the wall! My toddler decided to
scale a bookcase and it came tumbling down. Fortunately it was pine, not MDF
and his Angel placed a side table in just the right spot to stop the
bookcase from landing on top of him.

I knew I was supposed to strap these things to the wall - it was just
something on on the to-do list that I never got around to do.

w

in reply to [email protected] (WoodChuck34) on 24/07/2003 1:17 PM

24/07/2003 10:26 PM

On 24 Jul 2003 13:17:01 -0700, [email protected] (WoodChuck34)
wrote:
>
>I have a 16 month and 7 week old...

OMG, that's a tight pattern! :o

>...and have been finishing my basement
>so we have a place for them to play and to get their toys/books out of
>the way. Basically it a big cage! Anyway, I am building cabinets
>around about a 1/4 of the room. Its probably a good 25' or 30' of
>wall space so to keep the cost down I am using MDF for the carcases.
>My question is:
>
>Is it alright to use MDF for fixed shelving in cabinets that are at
>most 36" wide or am I going to experience just too much sag?
>
>I can use 3/4" MDF as a backer so that should add to the stiffness. I
>am also planning on a poplar face frame, but is that enough? These
>cabinets will problaby be used mostly for books, toys, DVD's, etc.
>The weight of the books could get substantial but that would be about
>it.
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Chuck

I wouldn't go much past 24~30" for books without support in the
middle. Otherwise, for toys, etc. it should be fine. Maybe make one
cabinet 24" wide for books and the rest 36"?

Dave

JJ

"JackD"

in reply to [email protected] (WoodChuck34) on 24/07/2003 1:17 PM

24/07/2003 1:44 PM

a 36" mdf shelf will sag even if you put nothing on it.
You might consider putting supports in the middle.

-Jack

"WoodChuck34" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have a 16 month and 7 week old and have been finishing my basement
> so we have a place for them to play and to get their toys/books out of
> the way. Basically it a big cage! Anyway, I am building cabinets
> around about a 1/4 of the room. Its probably a good 25' or 30' of
> wall space so to keep the cost down I am using MDF for the carcases.
> My question is:
>
> Is it alright to use MDF for fixed shelving in cabinets that are at
> most 36" wide or am I going to experience just too much sag?
>
> I can use 3/4" MDF as a backer so that should add to the stiffness. I
> am also planning on a poplar face frame, but is that enough? These
> cabinets will problaby be used mostly for books, toys, DVD's, etc.
> The weight of the books could get substantial but that would be about
> it.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Chuck

PA

"Preston Andreas"

in reply to [email protected] (WoodChuck34) on 24/07/2003 1:17 PM

25/07/2003 12:56 AM

Check out http://www.woodbin.com/calcs/sagulator.htm Check out the notes at
the bottom. Especially the part about initial sag and sag over time. If I
use mdf for shelves, I generally add 1 1/2" trim to the front and back of
the shelf for more stiffness, or I add it to the front and fix the shelf to
the back.

Preston
"WoodChuck34" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a 16 month and 7 week old and have been finishing my basement
> so we have a place for them to play and to get their toys/books out of
> the way. Basically it a big cage! Anyway, I am building cabinets
> around about a 1/4 of the room. Its probably a good 25' or 30' of
> wall space so to keep the cost down I am using MDF for the carcases.
> My question is:
>
> Is it alright to use MDF for fixed shelving in cabinets that are at
> most 36" wide or am I going to experience just too much sag?
>
> I can use 3/4" MDF as a backer so that should add to the stiffness. I
> am also planning on a poplar face frame, but is that enough? These
> cabinets will problaby be used mostly for books, toys, DVD's, etc.
> The weight of the books could get substantial but that would be about
> it.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Chuck

PK

"Pat Keith"

in reply to [email protected] (WoodChuck34) on 24/07/2003 1:17 PM

24/07/2003 9:18 PM

Check out http://www.pbmdf.com/buyerguide/TBShelving1.htm for MDF shelf
spans


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