I did this once before, with good results, but the blade later
broke.
I've been having problems making decent cuts with my bandsaw blade.
Nice thin cut, but it'd quickly curve to the left, and unless it was
just a short cut, the blade would bind. Noting I did made any
significant difference. When I pinched the blade and slid my fingers
donw it couldn't feel any set at all. Hmmm. I've got a nifty old
Stanley saw set. Heh heh.
So, decided to set every tenth tooth (it's 4 TPI). Got half the
teeth set and quit because I was tired. Next day decided to try it
before I set more teeth. Well, the cut was considerably straighter, but
it angled to the right, but no significate binding. OK, set the rest of
the teeth, and tried again. Still cut pretty straight, but still at an
angle to th eright, just not quite as acute angle.
OK, set some more teeth, the same way as last time. Tried it.
This time marked a line on a piece of 1/2" plywood about 5" wide, and
used my new bandsaw sled. Very interesting. It followed the line right
on track, up until about 3/4"-1" from the end, then it went off track to
the right again about 1/16"
I can't figure why it would cut most of the piece so precisely,
then start to angle off in the last inch or so. I'll give it another
try to morrow, and if I get the same results, I won't leave well enough
alone, I'll set a couple more teeth, then try it again. I figure I'll
either get the damn thing cutting straight, or ruin it. I will say tho
that free-handing it and cutting on a penceled line I can easily get the
cut to follow the line quite nicely - sure wouldn't do that before.
Still can't really tell there's any set in the blade.
When I set the teeth before I'm not sure what I used, but could
have been pliers, and I set every tooth. Noticeable set, noticeably
wider cut, but no hint of binding at all, and very nice straight cut,
altho not quite as smooth a cut, fast cut too.
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
I'd be interested in knowing the brand of blade you have been using.
Have you ever used a Timberwolf blade? They are very good.
Donna Menke
J T wrote:
> Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 6:27am (EDT-3) [email protected] (bf) doth exclaim:
> Wow, I'm impressed (and I don't mean that sarastically). You are really
> hardcore. I would've just bought a new blade.
>
> You may have the wrong idea. This is not the same blade that broke
> then repaired, it's a new one. The old one I shapped into pieces 2-3"
> long, glued the pieces between scrap pieces of wood. Grind the blades
> to shape, sharpen them, and you have handy little knives, for marking,
> whittling, chip carving, whatever. Keep teeth on a few and you have
> tiny little saws.
>
> Hardcore? About woodworking? Hah! But if I'd just bought a new
> blade I'd never have known if doing this would work.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 6:03pm (EDT-3) [email protected] (Donna) doth query:
I'd be interested in knowing the brand of blade you have been using.
Have you ever used a Timberwolf blade? They are very good. Donna Menke
Dunno. Possibly a Sears brand. Not used a Timberwolf yet.
Doesn't matter what brand it is, because I'd be willing to do the same
to any blade if it didn't work as I wanted. I pay for it, I can modify
it - that's one of my mottos. Beats tossing it and paying good money to
buy another one, then hope that one works like I want. Besides, doing
things like that is good for the soul.
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
J T wrote:
> Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 6:03pm (EDT-3) [email protected] (Donna) doth query:
> I'd be interested in knowing the brand of blade you have been using.
> Have you ever used a Timberwolf blade? They are very good. Donna Menke
>
> Dunno. Possibly a Sears brand. Not used a Timberwolf yet.
> Doesn't matter what brand it is, because I'd be willing to do the same
> to any blade if it didn't work as I wanted. I pay for it, I can modify
> it - that's one of my mottos. Beats tossing it and paying good money to
> buy another one, then hope that one works like I want. Besides, doing
> things like that is good for the soul.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
>
G'day JOAT,
I'm with ya on this one.
I often sharpen and reset my band saw blades. It's a good mindless
activity that is good for the soul ;)
My tenon saw is the bugger that me go cross eyed though.
regards
John
Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 4:27am (EDT+4) [email protected]
(John=A0B) waves and says:
G'day JOAT,
I'm with ya on this one.
I often sharpen and reset my band saw blades. It's a good mindless
activity that is good for the soul ;)
My tenon saw is the bugger that me go cross eyed though. regards
John
Hey John, always good to hear word from a man who understands,
getting to be a rare happening, that.
I sharpened one of my jigsaw blades once. May be good for the
soul, but tedious. I don't do that anymore.
Later
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 6:27am (EDT-3) [email protected] (bf) doth exclaim:
Wow, I'm impressed (and I don't mean that sarastically). You are really
hardcore. I would've just bought a new blade.
You may have the wrong idea. This is not the same blade that broke
then repaired, it's a new one. The old one I shapped into pieces 2-3"
long, glued the pieces between scrap pieces of wood. Grind the blades
to shape, sharpen them, and you have handy little knives, for marking,
whittling, chip carving, whatever. Keep teeth on a few and you have
tiny little saws.
Hardcore? About woodworking? Hah! But if I'd just bought a new
blade I'd never have known if doing this would work.
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
J T wrote:
> I did this once before, with good results, but the blade later
> broke.
>
> I've been having problems making decent cuts with my bandsaw blade.
> Nice thin cut, but it'd quickly curve to the left, and unless it was
> just a short cut, the blade would bind. Noting I did made any
> significant difference. When I pinched the blade and slid my fingers
> donw it couldn't feel any set at all. Hmmm. I've got a nifty old
> Stanley saw set. Heh heh.
>
> So, decided to set every tenth tooth (it's 4 TPI). Got half the...
Is tooth setting the problem or is it your saw guides? In particular,
for cuts that veer off to one side or other, check the roller bearing
behind the blade. On my Delta 14" there was so much slop that the blade
would slip off the face of the bearing and angle sharply to the left
(my left when facing the saw). I inserted a brass shim on the inboard
side of the hex rod (or is it octagonal?) that holds the bearing so it
will face square to the back of the blade. Also, binding could be a
result of too little tension on the blade.
I'm thinking of ordering Carter's guide assembly. It's about a third of
what I paid for my saw, but it would allow me to set the guides with
much more precision than the stock setup on the Delta 14". These saws
(Delta, Jet, Grizzly) are built to sell for a price... they lack
precision in important areas. Upgrades like Carters are a good
compromise between a cheap saw and a premium priced 16", 18" saw.
Cheers
Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 9:13pm (EDT-3) [email protected] (drifwood) doth
queryeth:
Is tooth setting the problem or is it your saw guides? In particular,
for cuts that veer off to one side or other, check the roller bearing
behind the blade. <snip>
Like I' said, I've fiddled with everything possible on the saw -
buides, bearing, tension, , etc. Zip worked. Until I set the blade.
No biggie, I don't use it that much anyway, but now I'll use it more.
When I get a new blade, I'll fine-tune the saw first to see how it
works, and if need be I'll set the teeth again. No prob.
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
Hey Ed, here's a bit more info.
http://www.nhra.com/dragster/1999/issue05/racing_technology.html You
can read it all, it's not that long, or just find plywood.
In my case, with my paricular engine combo, I think simply
minimizing heat transfer to the carburetor may benefit me more than
anything. But it don't matter, it are all good for the soul, and I'll
probably 'spearmint. Do you think a plywood spacer painted yellow would
work best? LMAO
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
Hi Joat
I hope that you are setting each adjacent tooth in opposite directions.
Just from the way you described it in your post it sounds like you weren't.
ALL the teeth will need to be set by the same amount (in opposing
directions)for the blade to cut properly.I find it hard to believe there is
no set on the blade. 4TPI should have a reasonable set. How old is this
blade? The most common reason for the cutting symptoms you are describing is
if you have hit a nail or something and upset the tooth sharpness and or set
on one side of the blade. Are your blade guides adjusted properly? I have
always found bandsaws tend to wander when using fence/sled as guide unless
the blade is in near perfect condition.
Rgds
Paul
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I did this once before, with good results, but the blade later
> broke.
>
> I've been having problems making decent cuts with my bandsaw blade.
> Nice thin cut, but it'd quickly curve to the left, and unless it was
> just a short cut, the blade would bind. Noting I did made any
> significant difference. When I pinched the blade and slid my fingers
> donw it couldn't feel any set at all. Hmmm. I've got a nifty old
> Stanley saw set. Heh heh.
>
> So, decided to set every tenth tooth (it's 4 TPI). Got half the
> teeth set and quit because I was tired. Next day decided to try it
> before I set more teeth. Well, the cut was considerably straighter, but
> it angled to the right, but no significate binding. OK, set the rest of
> the teeth, and tried again. Still cut pretty straight, but still at an
> angle to th eright, just not quite as acute angle.
>
> OK, set some more teeth, the same way as last time. Tried it.
> This time marked a line on a piece of 1/2" plywood about 5" wide, and
> used my new bandsaw sled. Very interesting. It followed the line right
> on track, up until about 3/4"-1" from the end, then it went off track to
> the right again about 1/16"
>
> I can't figure why it would cut most of the piece so precisely,
> then start to angle off in the last inch or so. I'll give it another
> try to morrow, and if I get the same results, I won't leave well enough
> alone, I'll set a couple more teeth, then try it again. I figure I'll
> either get the damn thing cutting straight, or ruin it. I will say tho
> that free-handing it and cutting on a penceled line I can easily get the
> cut to follow the line quite nicely - sure wouldn't do that before.
> Still can't really tell there's any set in the blade.
>
> When I set the teeth before I'm not sure what I used, but could
> have been pliers, and I set every tooth. Noticeable set, noticeably
> wider cut, but no hint of binding at all, and very nice straight cut,
> altho not quite as smooth a cut, fast cut too.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
>
Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 9:22pm (EDT+14) [email protected] (Paul=A0D) doth
put out:
Hi Joat
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0I hope that you are setting each adjacent tooth
in opposite directions. Just from the way you described it in your post
it sounds like you weren't. ALL the teeth will need to be set by the
same amount (in opposing directions)for the blade to cut properly.I find
it hard to believe there is no set on the blade. 4TPI should have a
reasonable set. How old is this blade? The most common reason for the
cutting symptoms you are describing is if you have hit a nail or
something and upset the tooth sharpness and or set on one side of the
blade. Are your blade guides adjusted properly? I have always found
bandsaws tend to wander when using fence/sled as guide unless the blade
is in near perfect condition.
Yeah, they're set in opposite directions. They wouldn't be set
otherwise.
The teeth that are set are set the same amount. Don't need ALL the
teeth set.
Didn't say there was no set on the blade, just didn't feel like it.
Dunno how old the blade is, couple of years maybe, but not used
much. I don't feel that has much bearing. And haven't hit anything but
wood with it. Blade is good, guides set - just sucked from day one. No
prob..
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
> Yeah, they're set in opposite directions. They wouldn't be set otherwise.
I was just making sure you understood the process of setting
> The teeth that are set are set the same amount. Don't need ALL the teeth
set.
The point I was making here was that if there in a minute difference in the
amount of set in each direction it throws the centre of the blade off which
will cause the problem you described. Sorry to dissapoint you here but ALL
the teeth on the blade need to be set.
Exagerating the motion that is occuring when you only set every tenth tooth
You are using a 4tpi blade so we will cut a piece of 1/4" stock for sake of
simplicity
first tooth set to left .... 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 no set or minimal set ......
tenth to right ... etc etc
first set tooth passes through timber .... places pressure on blade and
flexexes blade to the right
next 8 teeth pass through timber .... blade returns to centre
tenth tooth passes through timber ... places pressure on blade and flexes
blade to left
etc ... etc
> Didn't say there was no set on the blade, just didn't feel like it.
A 4TPI blade is not made for intricate cutting. It is designed for heavier
cutting so therefor is designed with considerable set which should be very
obvious to feel if you slide your fingers up the blade. If you can't feel it
then somthing has caused your blade to loose its set, or it was never set
properly from the start
>Dunno how old the blade is, couple of years maybe, but not used much. I
don't feel that has much bearing.
I was asking the blade age because some people think that a blade should
last a lifetime or untill it breaks, whichever occurs first, regardless of
how much use or how hard a use its had.
>And haven't hit anything but wood with it.
That eliminates one cause of upset set
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 8:00pm (EDT+14) [email protected] (Paul=A0D) doth
sayeth:
I was just making sure you understood the process of setting
The point I was making here was that if there in a minute difference in
the amount of set in each direction it throws the centre of the blade
off which will cause the problem you described. Sorry to dissapoint you
here but ALL the teeth on the blade need to be set. <snip> If you can't
feel it then somthing has caused your blade to loose its set, or it was
never set properly from the start <snip>
Unless you're about 58, or older, I've probably been aware of the
principles of saw setting since before you were born.
Well of course there's going to be a minute amount of difference.
That's why I used the saw set, to minimize it.
Sorry to disapoint you, but I decided to do some on-line research
on setting bandsaw teeth before I started on this. "Nothing" I found
indicates ALL the teeth need to be set. I found new blades sold with
every 10th set (didn't check on how many TPI); one tooth partially set,
the next fully set, then some skipped, until the next pair which were
set the opposite way; and so on.
Whatever, on the last two blades I bought couldn't feel any
discernable set. Which is why I set them in the first place.
It may surprise some of you, but if I'm not really familiar with
something, I do research before jumping in. I sift out the obvious BS,
ponder over the rest, and decide my next move from there. Which
sometimes turns out to be more research. On the other hand, I've had a
diverse background, so there's one Hell of a lot of things I don't need
to research. My mind is a cluttered storehouse of obscure, sometimes
useless, information.
Life is basically good.
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 1:16pm [email protected] (Locutus)
Aren't you full of yourself?
Paul was simply trying to offer some advise.
It's called self-confidence, and a history of problem solving.
I'll work on outgrowing all that.
I didn't need any advise in this case. Are you saying I should
have let him advice me?
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
"Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:280720061415354003%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca...
> In article <[email protected]>, Locutus
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Aren't you full of yourself?
>>
>> Paul was simply trying to offer some advise.
>
> The mistake many people with JOAT's posts is thinking he actually wants
> some sort of response to them.
>
> 99 times out of 100, he wants no such thing but is just posting for the
> sake of posting.
>
> Unless there's actually a "?" in his post, assume he wants no reply
> whatsoever and that he will respond snarkishly to same.
Well that's a great way to be!! :)
In article <[email protected]>, Locutus
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Aren't you full of yourself?
>
> Paul was simply trying to offer some advise.
The mistake many people with JOAT's posts is thinking he actually wants
some sort of response to them.
99 times out of 100, he wants no such thing but is just posting for the
sake of posting.
Unless there's actually a "?" in his post, assume he wants no reply
whatsoever and that he will respond snarkishly to same.
Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 2:15pm (EDT-2) dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca
(Dave=A0Balderstone) doth clameth:
The mistake many people with JOAT's posts is thinking he actually wants
some sort of response to them.
99 times out of 100, he wants no such thing but is just posting for the
sake of posting.
Unless there's actually a "?" in his post, assume he wants no reply
whatsoever and that he will respond snarkishly to same.
Well that's an interesting opinion. Unless I specifically ask a
question, I'm not really after responses, just as you say; however, it
doesn't bother me if people do respond. Didn't know "snarkishly" is a
word. But if the occassion calls for it.
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
In article <[email protected]>, Locutus
<[email protected]> wrote:
> "Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote in message
> news:280720061415354003%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca...
> > In article <[email protected]>, Locutus
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Aren't you full of yourself?
> >>
> >> Paul was simply trying to offer some advise.
> >
> > The mistake many people with JOAT's posts is thinking he actually wants
> > some sort of response to them.
> >
> > 99 times out of 100, he wants no such thing but is just posting for the
> > sake of posting.
> >
> > Unless there's actually a "?" in his post, assume he wants no reply
> > whatsoever and that he will respond snarkishly to same.
>
> Well that's a great way to be!! :)
He was a lot more fun a few years ago. Then he got pissed off at the
group, told us he was leaving, and didn't.
Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 2:44pm (EDT-2) dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca
(Dave=A0Balderstone) doth claimeth:
He was a lot more fun a few years ago. Then he got pissed off at the
group, told us he was leaving, and didn't.
I thought I'd gotten burned out. I'm still not really back, if I
was I'd be posting free plans on a daily basis. Its just not much fun
here anymore. I may well take a break again, jjust got a book I've been
waiting for: How To Rebuild And Modify Rochester Quadrajet Carburetors.
Could even be considered woodworking related - because I could use a
plywood spacer under it - for those of you that don't know, it's an
accepted practice, and works.
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
Another of my fav subjects .... owned V8 holdens since '71. Yes the ply
spacer is a 'common' practice for the Quadrajet but there are much more
successful (ie more permanent solutions) for the spacer. If you have any
luck in getting one to run as well as when it was new let me know because
that is something that I and anyone I know have never succedded in doing
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 2:44pm (EDT-2) dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca
(Dave Balderstone) doth claimeth:
He was a lot more fun a few years ago. Then he got pissed off at the
group, told us he was leaving, and didn't.
I thought I'd gotten burned out. I'm still not really back, if I
was I'd be posting free plans on a daily basis. Its just not much fun
here anymore. I may well take a break again, jjust got a book I've been
waiting for: How To Rebuild And Modify Rochester Quadrajet Carburetors.
Could even be considered woodworking related - because I could use a
plywood spacer under it - for those of you that don't know, it's an
accepted practice, and works.
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
Sun, Jul 30, 2006, 1:16am (EDT+14) [email protected] (Paul=A0D) doth
sayeth:
Another of my fav subjects =A0 .... owned V8 holdens since '71. Yes the
ply spacer is a 'common' practice for the Quadrajet but there are much
more successful (ie more permanent solutions) for the spacer. If you
have any luck in getting one to run as well as when it was new let me
know because that is something that I and anyone I know have never
succedded in doing
Yeah, a V8 sounds sooo much better than those irritatiing little
fours. I love Q-Jets, good economy, until you kick in those
secondaries, and get that lovely sound. Had one on the '73 Nova, and it
worked well - engine later dropped into my son's Blazer. My '78 El
Camino came with a new spread-bore Edelbrock carb. Spread-bore, yes,
but not even close to a Q-Jet, the primaries are only marginally smaller
than the secondaries, and the secondaries aren't that large. Works well
enough, but not a Q-Jet by any means. Q-Jets are largely misunderstood,
which is the main reason people can't set them up right. This looks
like a good book, and I have high hopes for it. About $16 from Amazon.
Oh, I just bought the book, have nothing to do with it otherwise.
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
How To Rebuild And Modify Rochester Quadrajet Carburetors.
Could even be considered woodworking related - because I could use a
plywood spacer under it - for those of you that don't know, it's an
accepted practice, and works.
I learned something new today. What does the spacer do? I'm sure it changes
the air flow characteristics and maybe changes the way the fuel and air
mixes?
Keeping it wood related, is "Baltic birch best?
Sat, Jul 29, 2006, 4:47am (EDT+4) [email protected] (Edwin=A0Pawlowski) doth
query:
I learned something new today. What does the spacer do? I'm sure it
changes the air flow characteristics and maybe changes the way the fuel
and air mixes?
Keeping it wood related, is "Baltic birch best?
Hi Ed. Not going into great detail, yep, thatt's the theory. In
reality you basically have to try it to see if it works. On one engine
combio you might get significant increased torque and horsepower; and on
a similar combo you might get less, or even none. On one a 1" spacer
might work better then a 2", and vicey versey, or you might be better
off with none at all. You can buy one for maybe $10-20, or make your
own - personally, it'd be more satisfying to make my own. And, yeah,
probably Baltic birch would be best. Once I get my project up and
running I figure it's worth a try. However, while a 1/4" spacer
probably wouldn't do anything for the air flow, it will keep heat
transfer to the carb down, which in itself will be good, so that might
be the best way to go. Just gotta try and see. I'm thinking a bit of
plywood here and there too, and yellow paint somewhere. Hehehe
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
well actually you are very close with the age ... but I am third generation
in the trade, so I guess thats nearly 100 years of 'secrets' passed on
totally wasted
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 8:00pm (EDT+14) [email protected] (Paul D) doth
sayeth:
I was just making sure you understood the process of setting
The point I was making here was that if there in a minute difference in
the amount of set in each direction it throws the centre of the blade
off which will cause the problem you described. Sorry to dissapoint you
here but ALL the teeth on the blade need to be set. <snip> If you can't
feel it then somthing has caused your blade to loose its set, or it was
never set properly from the start <snip>
Unless you're about 58, or older, I've probably been aware of the
principles of saw setting since before you were born.
Well of course there's going to be a minute amount of difference.
That's why I used the saw set, to minimize it.
Sorry to disapoint you, but I decided to do some on-line research
on setting bandsaw teeth before I started on this. "Nothing" I found
indicates ALL the teeth need to be set. I found new blades sold with
every 10th set (didn't check on how many TPI); one tooth partially set,
the next fully set, then some skipped, until the next pair which were
set the opposite way; and so on.
Whatever, on the last two blades I bought couldn't feel any
discernable set. Which is why I set them in the first place.
It may surprise some of you, but if I'm not really familiar with
something, I do research before jumping in. I sift out the obvious BS,
ponder over the rest, and decide my next move from there. Which
sometimes turns out to be more research. On the other hand, I've had a
diverse background, so there's one Hell of a lot of things I don't need
to research. My mind is a cluttered storehouse of obscure, sometimes
useless, information.
Life is basically good.
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Can't claim I know any "secrets", but do know what's supposed to be
> needed to fune a bandsaw.
You must know some secrets, as you're probably the only person in this group
who knows how to "fune" a bandsaw.
See what happens when you make fun of someones spelling/typo errors? Comes
back to bite you in the ass!
lol...
Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 3:45pm [email protected] (Locutus) doth
sayeth:
You must know some secrets, as you're probably the only person in this
group who knows how to "fune" a bandsaw.
See what happens when you make fun of someones spelling/typo errors?
Comes back to bite you in the ass!
You pluck the blade and you get a musical note. If that ain't
tuning I don't know what is.
Ah, a spelling error. I thought it was a grammering error. My
error.
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 9:33pm (EDT+14) [email protected] (Paul=A0D) doth
sayeth:
well actually you are very close with the age ... but I am third
generation in the trade, so I guess thats nearly 100 years of 'secrets'
passed on totally wasted
Can't claim I know any "secrets", but do know what's supposed to be
needed to fune a bandsaw. It this case that didn't work. So thought
about it, came up with a possible solution, tried it, and it worked.
Comes from many years of Army problem solving. Next guy's saw might be
tunable, seemingly mine wasn't. No prob.
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
"Locutus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>> Can't claim I know any "secrets", but do know what's supposed to be
>> needed to fune a bandsaw.
>
> You must know some secrets, as you're probably the only person in this
> group who knows how to "fune" a bandsaw.
>
> See what happens when you make fun of someones spelling/typo errors? Comes
> back to bite you in the ass!
>
Maybe he was just a funnin' ya.....
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:44:34 -0400, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:
> I can't figure why it would cut most of the piece so precisely,
>then start to angle off in the last inch or so. I'll give it another
>try to morrow, and if I get the same results, I won't leave well enough
>alone, I'll set a couple more teeth, then try it again. I figure I'll
>either get the damn thing cutting straight, or ruin it. I will say tho
>that free-handing it and cutting on a penceled line I can easily get the
>cut to follow the line quite nicely - sure wouldn't do that before.
>Still can't really tell there's any set in the blade.
Any chance you just don't have a long enough fence? Tough to control
that last 1" properly, at least on my bandsaw- and it almost always
tends to be my error. Watching carefully, I found that that little
jog at the end was coming from pushing on the back corner furthest
from the fence to feed the piece, and that was causing it to rotate
just a little around the last inch or so- kind of like the blade was
acting as a pivot. Using a push stick in line with the blade seemed
to help a bit, though it didn't do the push stick any favors.
> When I set the teeth before I'm not sure what I used, but could
>have been pliers, and I set every tooth. Noticeable set, noticeably
>wider cut, but no hint of binding at all, and very nice straight cut,
>altho not quite as smooth a cut, fast cut too.
I usually use the barrel of a phillips screwdriver, myself. Tweak a
little, test on scrap, tweak some more, ad nausem. I figure it saves
me about $10 on every blade if I just get the Farm and Fleet ones, and
play with them for a little bit. That, and like you said, it's good
for ya.
Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 7:02pm (EDT-1) [email protected] (Prometheus)
doth state:
Any chance you just don't have a long enough fence? <snip> Using a push
stick in line with the blade seemed to help a bit, though it didn't do
the push stick any favors. <snip>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
I usually use the barrel of a phillips screwdriver, myself. <snip> like
you said, it's good for ya.
Fence? I'm supposed to have a fense now? Nope, no fence. Never
thought about one. Just using the small sled I made. Fence, eh? I'll
ave to think on that one. Push sticks are born as sacrifices.
Interesting. Never thought about sumpthin' like that. I've got
the saw set, so will probably stick with it. But if I didn't have it I
think next time I'd use a body hammer on the edge of a chunk of rail.
That or grind a pair of pliers. It's all good.
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal
"Prometheus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:44:34 -0400, [email protected] (J T)
> wrote:
>
>> I can't figure why it would cut most of the piece so precisely,
>>then start to angle off in the last inch or so. I'll give it another
>>try to morrow, and if I get the same results, I won't leave well enough
>>alone, I'll set a couple more teeth, then try it again. I figure I'll
>>either get the damn thing cutting straight, or ruin it. I will say tho
>>that free-handing it and cutting on a penceled line I can easily get the
>>cut to follow the line quite nicely - sure wouldn't do that before.
>>Still can't really tell there's any set in the blade.
>
> Any chance you just don't have a long enough fence? Tough to control
> that last 1" properly, at least on my bandsaw- and it almost always
> tends to be my error. Watching carefully, I found that that little
> jog at the end was coming from pushing on the back corner furthest
> from the fence to feed the piece, and that was causing it to rotate
> just a little around the last inch or so- kind of like the blade was
> acting as a pivot. Using a push stick in line with the blade seemed
> to help a bit, though it didn't do the push stick any favors.
>
>> When I set the teeth before I'm not sure what I used, but could
>>have been pliers, and I set every tooth. Noticeable set, noticeably
>>wider cut, but no hint of binding at all, and very nice straight cut,
>>altho not quite as smooth a cut, fast cut too.
>
> I usually use the barrel of a phillips screwdriver, myself. Tweak a
> little, test on scrap, tweak some more, ad nausem. I figure it saves
> me about $10 on every blade if I just get the Farm and Fleet ones, and
> play with them for a little bit. That, and like you said, it's good
> for ya.
It don't matter what you say, it's not even getting through. SOME people
type for the sake of typing, others are sincere when they ask how do I, how
can I. This cantankerous old fool.....nevermind.
Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 8:17pm [email protected] (Tim=A0Taylor) doth
burble:
It don't matter what you say, it's not even getting through. SOME people
type for the sake of typing, others are sincere when they ask how do I,
how can I. This cantankerous old fool.....nevermind.
Apparently. You seem to be confused, You quoted Prometheus, so I
take it your post is directed at him Terrible things to say about him
and terrible names to call him.
However, on the off chance you were trying to direct your post
toward me, I will attempt to make it clear to you.
I posted about something I had done, something that worked for me.
I paid for the blade, so I could do what I wanted with it. You probably
would have really gone ballistic if you'd read my thread about using a
power planer on a chunk of wood in a running lathe. Now that one was
fun.
There was "no" question asked by me, so don't know where you came
up with that. I'm not old, and "I'm" not the fool. You might want to
look up cantankerous too. Have a nice next life.
JOAT
Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. Latin for career criminal