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"Rob V"

20/06/2004 2:06 PM

SCMS Technique Question

OK - This may be a little weird question.
Im looking into getting a SCMS - Ive seen it used a bit on a few shows on
TV.
Ive seen people use them 2 different ways :

1. W/ the wood in place - slide the saw all the way towards you - pull the
trigger - plunge it thru the wood then push it towards the back thru the
wood.

and

2. W/ the wood in place - pull the trigger - plunge it thru the wood and
pull it towards you.

Which way is the correct way?? Or does it not really matter???

Just curious b/4 I get one and accidently lop a limb off.

Thanks
-Rob


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Wx

"Woodcrafter"

in reply to "Rob V" on 20/06/2004 2:06 PM

21/06/2004 12:34 AM

For an SCMS,

1. is right.
2. is wrong

Although not to confuse a SCMS with a Radial Arm Saw. If it is a radial arm,
then number 2 is the correct method.


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LL

LRod

in reply to "Rob V" on 20/06/2004 2:06 PM

20/06/2004 4:35 PM

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:53:08 GMT, "Mark L." <[email protected]>
wrote:

>...If you cut while pulling towards you, the blade can dig into the
>piece and jerk the blade towards you.

No more so than a RAS. Either way should be alright.

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Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Rob V" on 20/06/2004 2:06 PM

21/06/2004 2:20 AM


"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Trust me, the RAS can do it, too, DAMHIKT. However, the odds are
> considerably lower, I expect.


LOL... Yeah, It happened to me a time or two... I am not quite sure what
gives because on paper it is not suppose to happen. I suspect the arm and
post twist up at the base frame along with the blade probably bending a
little to one side.

LL

LRod

in reply to "Rob V" on 20/06/2004 2:06 PM

20/06/2004 8:24 PM

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:02:21 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:53:08 GMT, "Mark L." <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >...If you cut while pulling towards you, the blade can dig into the
>> >piece and jerk the blade towards you.
>>
>> No more so than a RAS. Either way should be alright.
>
>
>Well actually it is more likely than a RAS. With the RAS the blade is at a
>predetermined height and will not elevate from that height unless you make a
>mechanical adjustment. With a SCMS your hand holds the blade down. If the
>blade is pulled towards you the blade can grab the wood like a RAS but also
>the blade can lift...

Hmmm, interesting. I hadn't thought of that aspect.

>also the blade can lift, unlike a RAS, and travel across the top of the board
>you are cutting.

Trust me, the RAS can do it, too, DAMHIKT. However, the odds are
considerably lower, I expect.


- -
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

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Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Rob V" on 20/06/2004 2:06 PM

20/06/2004 4:02 PM


"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:53:08 GMT, "Mark L." <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >...If you cut while pulling towards you, the blade can dig into the
> >piece and jerk the blade towards you.
>
> No more so than a RAS. Either way should be alright.


Well actually it is more likely than a RAS. With the RAS the blade is at a
predetermined height and will not elevate from that height unless you make a
mechanical adjustment. With a SCMS your hand holds the blade down. If the
blade is pulled towards you the blade can grab the wood like a RAS but also
the blade can lift, unlike a RAS, and travel across the top of the board you
are cutting.

ML

"Mark L."

in reply to "Rob V" on 20/06/2004 2:06 PM

20/06/2004 2:53 PM

One of the slight advantages a SCMS has over a radial arm saw is that
you make the cut while pushing the blade away from you. If you cut
while pulling towards you, the blade can dig into the piece and jerk the
blade towards you. Mark L.

Rob V wrote:
> OK - This may be a little weird question.
> Im looking into getting a SCMS - Ive seen it used a bit on a few shows on
> TV.
> Ive seen people use them 2 different ways :
>
> 1. W/ the wood in place - slide the saw all the way towards you - pull the
> trigger - plunge it thru the wood then push it towards the back thru the
> wood.
>
> and
>
> 2. W/ the wood in place - pull the trigger - plunge it thru the wood and
> pull it towards you.
>
> Which way is the correct way?? Or does it not really matter???
>
> Just curious b/4 I get one and accidently lop a limb off.
>
> Thanks
> -Rob
>
>

jj

jo4hn

in reply to "Rob V" on 20/06/2004 2:06 PM

20/06/2004 6:27 PM

[snip]
> Just curious b/4 I get one and accidently lop a limb off.
>
> Thanks
> -Rob
>
and keep your pants buttoned...
j4 :-o

LL

LRod

in reply to "Rob V" on 20/06/2004 2:06 PM

21/06/2004 4:35 AM

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 02:20:23 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Trust me, the RAS can do it, too, DAMHIKT. However, the odds are
>> considerably lower, I expect.
>
>
>LOL... Yeah, It happened to me a time or two... I am not quite sure what
>gives because on paper it is not suppose to happen. I suspect the arm and
>post twist up at the base frame along with the blade probably bending a
>little to one side.

Having to do a realignment afterwards suggests to me that the table
and its supports got pushed down. That would account for a good part
of it.

- -
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

JP

Jay Pique

in reply to "Rob V" on 20/06/2004 2:06 PM

20/06/2004 10:21 AM

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:06:37 GMT, "Rob V" <[email protected]> wrote:

>OK - This may be a little weird question.
>Im looking into getting a SCMS - Ive seen it used a bit on a few shows on
>TV.
>Ive seen people use them 2 different ways :
>
>1. W/ the wood in place - slide the saw all the way towards you - pull the
>trigger - plunge it thru the wood then push it towards the back thru the
>wood.

That's right.

>2. W/ the wood in place - pull the trigger - plunge it thru the wood and
>pull it towards you.

That's "wrong".

>Which way is the correct way?? Or does it not really matter???
>
>Just curious b/4 I get one and accidently lop a limb off.

JP


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