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>
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I reckon 2034 is a siren of some sort.
>>>
>>>
>>>Siren is correct, though it was used on a particular type of vehicle.
>>>
>>>
>>>Rob
>>
>> Harley-Davidson Police motorcycle. Looks like it's for a rigid frame
>> two wheeler. That clevis pin held in by the cotter pin is where a
>> foot activated linkage went, engaging the knurled arm end with the
>> sidewall of the rear wheel.
>>
>> Newb
>
>
> Good answer, this is correct.
>
> Rob
It is indeed correct! And a better description than I gave. :)
We had a half dozen in the shop.
Steve R.
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 05:20:07 -0400, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help identifying a couple of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
Guesses as always, since I'm normally no good at these things.
2031: Used to make sparks to light an acetylene torch?
2032: Clip of some sort. ;-) Is it spring loaded?
2034: Looks like part of a siren.
--
Ted S.
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Now blogging at http://justacineast.blogspot.com
On Sep 9, 5:20=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help identifying a couple of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
2030- clips onto a stub pedal that sometimes must be out of the way,
and sometimes accessible?
2034- sssssiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrRRRRRRRRrrrrreeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnn
Dave
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---------------------------------
2029: Aircraft chart plotter.
Lew
In article <[email protected]>,
Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help identifying a couple of them this week:
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
I reckon 2034 is a siren of some sort.
On Sep 9, 5:20=A0pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help identifying a couple of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
2030 looks like something that clips on the end of a ladder so it
won't slide when against a building.
--riverman
On Sep 9, 1:20 pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help identifying a couple of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
#2032 is a pelican hook, used to secure a "gate" between the
stanchions that support a metal cable used as a guardrail typically on
sailboats
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>I need some help identifying a couple of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
2089 looks like a coastal piloting instrument to lay off 3 bearings on a
chart to find you're position.
2034 is a motorcycle siren. The end of shaft engaged the back tire. The
rider could kick it into engagement. When I worked in the Harley shop, we
had some from the old police bikes. They were replaced with electronic
sirens.
Steve R.
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>>
>> "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> On 9/15/2010 2:28 AM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>>>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/09/set-353.html#answers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it possible that 2033 never had a longer handle and that it has
>>>>>>> something to do with fabric, yarn, or rope. What are the dimensions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just heard back from the owner of the bladed tool with the missing
>>>>>> handle, I also asked him someone else's question about the
>>>>>> possibility
>>>>>> of it having ball bearings, here is his reply:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The length of item is 12.5". The metal part is 7 ". There are only 9
>>>>>> small, very poor quality balls. It is not ball bearing system and the
>>>>>> handle do not rotate in relation to the blades. I.e. = no movement."
>>>>>
>>>>> So the balls are their for the sound, which means either the handle or
>>>>> business end had to be turned. Seems to lend credence to animal
>>>>> herding
>>>>> and a longer handle. But didn't someone say llamas were skittish
>>>>> around
>>>>> noise?
>>>>
>>>> Or perhaps it has some ceremonial function?
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's a good possibility. The metal bits do look like abstract feathers
>>> or leaves.
>>
>> Yes, maybe to someone who is still smoking 1960's grass
>>
>
> See headdress:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Quetzalcoatl_telleriano2.jpg
That's a nasty bit of weed you got man .
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> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On 9/15/2010 2:28 AM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/09/set-353.html#answers
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible that 2033 never had a longer handle and that it has
>>>>> something to do with fabric, yarn, or rope. What are the dimensions?
>>>>
>>>> I just heard back from the owner of the bladed tool with the missing
>>>> handle, I also asked him someone else's question about the possibility
>>>> of it having ball bearings, here is his reply:
>>>>
>>>> "The length of item is 12.5". The metal part is 7 ". There are only 9
>>>> small, very poor quality balls. It is not ball bearing system and the
>>>> handle do not rotate in relation to the blades. I.e. = no movement."
>>>
>>> So the balls are their for the sound, which means either the handle or
>>> business end had to be turned. Seems to lend credence to animal herding
>>> and a longer handle. But didn't someone say llamas were skittish around
>>> noise?
>>
>> Or perhaps it has some ceremonial function?
>>
>
> That's a good possibility. The metal bits do look like abstract feathers
> or leaves.
Yes, maybe to someone who is still smoking 1960's grass
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> In article <[email protected]>,
> Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I need some help identifying a couple of them this week:
>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> I reckon 2034 is a siren of some sort.
>
I think 2030 is a doorstop that the fireman carry to use while fighting a
fire.
Larry C
"Stuart" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>,
> Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I need some help identifying a couple of them this week:
>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> I reckon 2034 is a siren of some sort.
Siren is correct, though it was used on a particular type of vehicle.
Rob
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>I need some help identifying a couple of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
2032 - Hold down of some sort?
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> I reckon 2034 is a siren of some sort.
>>
>>
>>Siren is correct, though it was used on a particular type of vehicle.
>>
>>
>>Rob
>
> Harley-Davidson Police motorcycle. Looks like it's for a rigid frame
> two wheeler. That clevis pin held in by the cotter pin is where a
> foot activated linkage went, engaging the knurled arm end with the
> sidewall of the rear wheel.
>
> Newb
Good answer, this is correct.
Rob
On 9/9/10 5:20 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help identifying a couple of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
2033: I wonder if it's for handling llamas. Dogs and people on
horseback spook them. Lassoing can break their necks.
To herd them you move slowly and present visual barriers. One kind of
barrier is a lightweight pole held horizontally. The pointy looking
head and the rattling might discourage a llama from rushing past. They
might also discourage the occasional llama who wants to attack.
"Steve R." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I need some help identifying a couple of them this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>
> 2089 looks like a coastal piloting instrument to lay off 3 bearings on a
> chart to find you're position.
Yes, it's for fishermen or hunters to record their location so they can find
it again later.
Rob
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
> 2033: I wonder if it's for handling llamas. Dogs and people on horseback
> spook them. Lassoing can break their necks.
>
> To herd them you move slowly and present visual barriers. One kind of
> barrier is a lightweight pole held horizontally. The pointy looking head
> and the rattling might discourage a llama from rushing past. They might
> also discourage the occasional llama who wants to attack.
I don't know if this is correct or not but I like it better than the
description that the owner was given when he bought it:
"The antique dealer told me that he had bought this item from a man who had
visited South America and was told that it was a hunting tool for catching
small cats from trees. By shaking the tool it rattles which attracts
animals. The hunter tries to catch the animal between the blades of the
tool. (blades are not sharp)"
The handle was supposedly 3-4 meters long.
I do not believe this theory but I've never been to South America and have
never tried to catch a wild cat in a tree. I did a quick search looking for
South American museums or forums that I could ask about it but didn't find
any good candidates.
I guess the blades could have been sharp at one time and are now dull, or it
could have had a ceremonial purpose, hopefully someone will eventually
recognize it and let us know the answer.
Rob
On 9/10/2010 4:37 AM, --riverman wrote:
> On Sep 9, 5:20 pm, "Rob H."<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I need some help identifying a couple of them this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Rob
>
> 2030 looks like something that clips on the end of a ladder so it
> won't slide when against a building.
2033 looks like it has ball bearings--the structure is similar to a
cheap ball bearing caster (the kind where after a few years use the
balls fall out). I suspect that the end with the blades is supposed to
be stuck in the ground and something is stood on the other end--a
clothesline maybe, or a drying rack for something or other.
On 9/10/10 6:58 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>
>> 2033: I wonder if it's for handling llamas. Dogs and people on
>> horseback spook them. Lassoing can break their necks.
>>
>> To herd them you move slowly and present visual barriers. One kind of
>> barrier is a lightweight pole held horizontally. The pointy looking
>> head and the rattling might discourage a llama from rushing past. They
>> might also discourage the occasional llama who wants to attack.
>
>
> I don't know if this is correct or not but I like it better than the
> description that the owner was given when he bought it:
>
> "The antique dealer told me that he had bought this item from a man who
> had visited South America and was told that it was a hunting tool for
> catching small cats from trees. By shaking the tool it rattles which
> attracts animals. The hunter tries to catch the animal between the
> blades of the tool. (blades are not sharp)"
>
> The handle was supposedly 3-4 meters long.
>
> I do not believe this theory but I've never been to South America and
> have never tried to catch a wild cat in a tree. I did a quick search
> looking for South American museums or forums that I could ask about it
> but didn't find any good candidates.
>
> I guess the blades could have been sharp at one time and are now dull,
> or it could have had a ceremonial purpose, hopefully someone will
> eventually recognize it and let us know the answer.
>
>
> Rob
>
I'll try to make my guess as plausible as I can. Flat-bladed spears have
been used in Central America a long time.
http://www.precolumbianweapons.com/spears.htm
The Argentine army was using them as of 1897.
Llamas have been domesticated 4,000 years. Even before that, herding
them into corrals may have been the best way to hunt them. (Indians on
Cape Cod used to corral deer.) But if you spook llamas, they'll
probably escape.
If you're trying to herd them toward a corral and don't want them to
come past on your right, you hold out your spear. If you want the
llamas to see that your spear is more than a stick but don't want to
spook them, you rotate it so that the head looks dynamic.
The mystery item, with five blades and a rattle, might be an improvement
on a spear for herding llamas.
3-4 meters could be unwieldy for many purposes, but you'd want the
longest possible rod for a visual barrier to herd llamas.
> 2032: ahh.. its the insert to a bifold wallet.. thats what clipped the
> money into the center.
>
> http://www.walletgear.com/images/3131_lrg.jpg
Yes, someone had sent in the photos, they found the clip and didn't know
what it was for, I had seen one previously since years ago I happened to
have a wallet that had a similar clip.
Rob
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>
> 2033 looks like it has ball bearings--the structure is similar to a
> cheap ball bearing caster (the kind where after a few years use the
> balls fall out). I suspect that the end with the blades is supposed to
> be stuck in the ground and something is stood on the other end--a
> clothesline maybe, or a drying rack for something or other.
I'll ask the owner of it if the blades rotate in relation to the handle.
The answers for the rest of this set have been posted:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/09/set-353.html#answers
Rob
> I'll try to make my guess as plausible as I can. Flat-bladed spears have
> been used in Central America a long time.
> http://www.precolumbianweapons.com/spears.htm
> The Argentine army was using them as of 1897.
>
> Llamas have been domesticated 4,000 years. Even before that, herding them
> into corrals may have been the best way to hunt them. (Indians on Cape
> Cod used to corral deer.) But if you spook llamas, they'll probably
> escape.
>
> If you're trying to herd them toward a corral and don't want them to come
> past on your right, you hold out your spear. If you want the llamas to
> see that your spear is more than a stick but don't want to spook them, you
> rotate it so that the head looks dynamic.
>
> The mystery item, with five blades and a rattle, might be an improvement
> on a spear for herding llamas.
>
> 3-4 meters could be unwieldy for many purposes, but you'd want the longest
> possible rod for a visual barrier to herd llamas.
You might be correct about this being used for herding but I couldn't find
anything like it on the web. I sent an email to an anthropologist who said
he would show it to a few people who may know about it. If I get an answer
for this tool I'll certainly post it.
Rob
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>
>
>> 2033 looks like it has ball bearings--the structure is similar to a cheap
>> ball bearing caster (the kind where after a few years use the balls fall
>> out). I suspect that the end with the blades is supposed to be stuck in
>> the ground and something is stood on the other end--a clothesline maybe,
>> or a drying rack for something or other.
>
>
> I'll ask the owner of it if the blades rotate in relation to the handle.
>
> The answers for the rest of this set have been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/09/set-353.html#answers
>
>
> Rob
Is it possible that 2033 never had a longer handle and that it has something
to do with fabric, yarn, or rope. What are the dimensions?
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/09/set-353.html#answers
>>
>
>
> Is it possible that 2033 never had a longer handle and that it has
> something to do with fabric, yarn, or rope. What are the dimensions?
I just heard back from the owner of the bladed tool with the missing handle,
I also asked him someone else's question about the possibility of it having
ball bearings, here is his reply:
"The length of item is 12.5". The metal part is 7 ". There are only 9 small,
very poor quality balls. It is not ball bearing system and the handle do not
rotate in relation to the blades. I.e. = no movement."
Rob
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/09/set-353.html#answers
>>>
>
>>
>>
>> Is it possible that 2033 never had a longer handle and that it has
>> something to do with fabric, yarn, or rope. What are the dimensions?
>
> I just heard back from the owner of the bladed tool with the missing
> handle, I also asked him someone else's question about the possibility of
> it having ball bearings, here is his reply:
>
> "The length of item is 12.5". The metal part is 7 ". There are only 9
> small, very poor quality balls. It is not ball bearing system and the
> handle do not rotate in relation to the blades. I.e. = no movement."
So the balls are their for the sound, which means either the handle or
business end had to be turned. Seems to lend credence to animal herding and
a longer handle. But didn't someone say llamas were skittish around noise?
On 9/15/2010 2:28 AM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/09/set-353.html#answers
>>>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it possible that 2033 never had a longer handle and that it has
>>> something to do with fabric, yarn, or rope. What are the dimensions?
>>
>> I just heard back from the owner of the bladed tool with the missing
>> handle, I also asked him someone else's question about the possibility
>> of it having ball bearings, here is his reply:
>>
>> "The length of item is 12.5". The metal part is 7 ". There are only 9
>> small, very poor quality balls. It is not ball bearing system and the
>> handle do not rotate in relation to the blades. I.e. = no movement."
>
> So the balls are their for the sound, which means either the handle or
> business end had to be turned. Seems to lend credence to animal herding
> and a longer handle. But didn't someone say llamas were skittish around
> noise?
Or perhaps it has some ceremonial function?
On 9/15/10 7:30 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On 9/15/2010 2:28 AM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/09/set-353.html#answers
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible that 2033 never had a longer handle and that it has
>>>> something to do with fabric, yarn, or rope. What are the dimensions?
>>>
>>> I just heard back from the owner of the bladed tool with the missing
>>> handle, I also asked him someone else's question about the possibility
>>> of it having ball bearings, here is his reply:
>>>
>>> "The length of item is 12.5". The metal part is 7 ". There are only 9
>>> small, very poor quality balls. It is not ball bearing system and the
>>> handle do not rotate in relation to the blades. I.e. = no movement."
>>
>> So the balls are their for the sound, which means either the handle or
>> business end had to be turned. Seems to lend credence to animal herding
>> and a longer handle. But didn't someone say llamas were skittish around
>> noise?
>
> Or perhaps it has some ceremonial function?
>
I imagine men herding llamas would look ceremonial, walking slowly with
poles held out to the side. Small, irregular balls rolling in a raceway
as the handle was rotated might make just enough noise to keep llamas
from going around the end.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 9/15/2010 2:28 AM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/09/set-353.html#answers
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible that 2033 never had a longer handle and that it has
>>>> something to do with fabric, yarn, or rope. What are the dimensions?
>>>
>>> I just heard back from the owner of the bladed tool with the missing
>>> handle, I also asked him someone else's question about the possibility
>>> of it having ball bearings, here is his reply:
>>>
>>> "The length of item is 12.5". The metal part is 7 ". There are only 9
>>> small, very poor quality balls. It is not ball bearing system and the
>>> handle do not rotate in relation to the blades. I.e. = no movement."
>>
>> So the balls are their for the sound, which means either the handle or
>> business end had to be turned. Seems to lend credence to animal herding
>> and a longer handle. But didn't someone say llamas were skittish around
>> noise?
>
> Or perhaps it has some ceremonial function?
>
That's a good possibility. The metal bits do look like abstract feathers or
leaves.
"George W Frost" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On 9/15/2010 2:28 AM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/09/set-353.html#answers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it possible that 2033 never had a longer handle and that it has
>>>>>> something to do with fabric, yarn, or rope. What are the dimensions?
>>>>>
>>>>> I just heard back from the owner of the bladed tool with the missing
>>>>> handle, I also asked him someone else's question about the possibility
>>>>> of it having ball bearings, here is his reply:
>>>>>
>>>>> "The length of item is 12.5". The metal part is 7 ". There are only 9
>>>>> small, very poor quality balls. It is not ball bearing system and the
>>>>> handle do not rotate in relation to the blades. I.e. = no movement."
>>>>
>>>> So the balls are their for the sound, which means either the handle or
>>>> business end had to be turned. Seems to lend credence to animal herding
>>>> and a longer handle. But didn't someone say llamas were skittish around
>>>> noise?
>>>
>>> Or perhaps it has some ceremonial function?
>>>
>>
>> That's a good possibility. The metal bits do look like abstract feathers
>> or leaves.
>
> Yes, maybe to someone who is still smoking 1960's grass
>
See headdress:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Quetzalcoatl_telleriano2.jpg
On 2010-09-09, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help identifying a couple of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
Getting started rather late this time, but posting from
rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
2029) For measuring the angle between three landmarks, to allow
transfer to a map to determine your current location.
2030) Perhaps to grip a protective cap and unscrew it?
2031) clamp-on support for a candle, perhaps?
2032) Folding hook for hanging something after screwing it into
an overhead threaded hole?
2033) Perhaps a tool for harvesting bananas?
2034) A siren designed to be mechanically driven by a motor
coupling into which it plugs. (Probably on an old fire engine.)
Now to see what others have suggested.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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2034: I think it's an old police motorcycle siren?
Seems I can remember some of them being driven off the rear tire... much
like those little bicycle light generators (really alternators) that
were popular in years past.
If I recall correctly, the siren assembly was spring loaded away from
the tire. The 'spindle' (?) was brought into contact via pedal when the
cop wanted it spun up.
Of course they only worked when the motorcycle was moving...
I'm sure the screen was necessary to keep crap out.
Erik