What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based on
the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you have
heard from other people.
My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
reason.
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:33:51 -0400, Silvan
<[email protected]> pixelated:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> Lace up some steeltoed shoes for slip-on use and get
>> the benefit of both safety and convenient comfort.
>
>Slip-on steel-toes? I can't imagine that that would be comfortable, or
>safe.
Why not, for either reason?
>> Or you could always tack 1" medium-density strips of
>> foam to the top of your sandals, Sport.
>
>Or just drop stuff on my feet occasionally. I can live with it.
Go for it. And since you keep replying to BAD, you deserve it.
;)
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On 27 Aug 2003 14:23:22 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
>
> D K Woods <[email protected]> writes:
>> But I still think the potential for severe (not frequent) damage puts it
>> among the safer tools...well, power tools at least. *I* don't have
>> anything else with a 3/4 hp motor that safe, at least....
>
> Then you've never been hit in the head by a 10lb piece of oak
> travelling at 50mph.
I've never put a forstner bit through my hand, either, but I'm sure it's
happened at one time or another. All tools are dangerous, given the proper
circumstances.
My sympathy if you are talking from experience. That doesn't sound pretty.
david
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On 27 Aug 2003 04:40:38 GMT, GTO69RA4 wrote:
> You're question doesn't quite have an answer the way it's phrased. I haven't
> hurt myself any of my tools within recent memory, but it doesn't mean they're
> all at the same danger level.
>
> I've always put the drill press, belt grinder, and scroll saw in the "safest
> tool" catagory. The table saw, shaper, and jointer are the ones to watch out
> for. Flying and impaled body parts can ruin a good day.
>
> GTO(John)
>
I'd put a lathe in the "safest tools" category too. There's something
comforting about a tool that lets you hold the sharp tool stationary while
the wood does the spinning for you.
david
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:02:12 -0500, Sweet Sawdust wrote:
> I do own a table saw, radial arm saw, band saw, routers, drill presses,
> osculating sander, stationary belt sander, planner, jointer, lathe, chain
> saw, a whole bench of various power hand tools, a large wall of hand tools.
> and other power and hand tools. I spend at least 12 hours a day in the shop
> 5days a week and average 8 hours a day on weekends. I make my living in the
> shop and make all the small pieces of wood my self, have a collage degree in
> Industrial Arts and am accreted by my state as a folk artist. Any other
> comments on my credits?
> "David Binkowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> This must come from a person who doesn't yet own a table saw.
>>
Well then I would say that the reason you are considering the stationary
belt sander most dangerous is that it is the tool you are least careful
with. Maybe you're *too* comfortable with it.
I don't think there's a definitive answer out there. Statistically
speaking, I believe there are more accidents with table saws and circular
saws. But I heard a saying once that the most dangerous tool in your shop
is the one you're afraid of, and the second most dangerous tool in your
shop is the one you respect the least. Don't think it doesn't apply to
you.
david
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This thread is proof that reading comprehension skills are rather low around
here. Apparently, no one bothered to read and understand what you asked.
"Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I do own a table saw, radial arm saw, band saw, routers, drill presses,
> osculating sander, stationary belt sander, planner, jointer, lathe, chain
> saw, a whole bench of various power hand tools, a large wall of hand
tools.
> and other power and hand tools. I spend at least 12 hours a day in the
shop
> 5days a week and average 8 hours a day on weekends. I make my living in
the
> shop and make all the small pieces of wood my self, have a collage degree
in
> Industrial Arts and am accreted by my state as a folk artist. Any other
> comments on my credits?
>
>
Sweet Sawdust asked >
>What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based on
>the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you have
>heard from other people.
The human brain, because when it stops working whether due to haste,
exhaustion, or any other cause everything else can and often will to hell.
For instance a few days ago while cutting rabbets in picture frames with a
straight trim router bit my dust chute became clogged. I turned off the router,
waited for the bit to stop spinning and not wanting to have to redo my fence
setup I just slid my finger into the slot to clean it out unfortunately I
grazed the bit and have a nice 5/16" cut(as measured with calipers to prove to
SWMBO that it was not that bad). Blood in white oak is not a pretty sight,
bright side is the table top was freshly waxed so no blood stains there.
Bill
You're question doesn't quite have an answer the way it's phrased. I haven't
hurt myself any of my tools within recent memory, but it doesn't mean they're
all at the same danger level.
I've always put the drill press, belt grinder, and scroll saw in the "safest
tool" catagory. The table saw, shaper, and jointer are the ones to watch out
for. Flying and impaled body parts can ruin a good day.
GTO(John)
>What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based on
>the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you have
>heard from other people.
>
>My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
>pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
>reason.
>What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based on
>the number and severity of injuries you have received,
1. Knives that use razor blade edges, such as x-acto and retractables.
2. Everything else.
As I get older, I gain more respect for the fact that injuries only take a
slight lapse in vigilence.
My last significant injury came from a 13.2v cordless drill and a standard 1/8"
drill bit. The bit was a little dull, I pressed a little too hard, and in a
blink, it snapped and the resulting slip put the remainder of the bit all the
way through my left index finger near the knuckle. Looked kinda stupid
fumbling for the reverse on the drill so I could back the bit out of my finger.
Even battery powered tools can be dangerous.
Rich S.
In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
<jake@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
> I'll give impatience and blade screwdrivers equal status
> as #1 offenders there. I've lost more pieces of me to
> screwdrivers and more pieces of projects to impatience
Every time I've stabbed myself with a chisel or screwdriver, or skinned
a knuckle loosening or tightening a bolt, it's been because I was too
impatient to take the time to either do it right or make sure I was
using the proper tool for the job.
djb
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:02:12 -0500, "Sweet Sawdust"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I do own a...osculating sander.
Do you osculate with this sander while it's plugged in?
That would definitely make this one the most dangerous.
Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
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Abe wrote:
>> Do you osculate with this sander while it's plugged in?
>>
>> That would definitely make this one the most dangerous.
>
> LOL! Well, better osculation than fellation.
Fellation by an osculating sander? Yeeeeeowch!!!
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Having read most of the responses - the most dangerous tool in the shop has
got to be the "unused mind."
Jums
"Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based
on
> the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you
have
> heard from other people.
>
> My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
> pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
> reason.
>
>
Doug Miller wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Abe <[email protected]> wrote:
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> >[email protected] says...
> >> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:02:12 -0500, "Sweet Sawdust"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I do own a...osculating sander.
> >>
> >> Do you osculate with this sander while it's plugged in?
> >>
> >> That would definitely make this one the most dangerous.
> >
> >LOL! Well, better osculation than fellation.
>
> Or even worse, http://www.darwinawards.com/stupid/stupid1997-10.html
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
Well, he's half way out of the gene pool.
OBTW - it took me three trys to read that article. OW, OW, OW, OW.......
ARM
"Traves W. Coppock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:13:42 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
> Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
>
> snip
>
> >
> >Or even worse, http://www.darwinawards.com/stupid/stupid1997-10.html
>
>
> OOOOOO NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>
>
> that's just wrong!!!!
>
Quite.
Gorilla Glue would have been a much more suitable repair.
cheers
Richard
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Greetings and Salutations...
Well, while I have no SERIOUS disasters
to report (although I can report that it is a BAD
idea to whip the cut end of a nylon rope by
heating it to melting point, then, absent-mindedly
starting to squeeze it with one's ungloved hand)
it has been my observation that *I* (directly,
and, indirectly any human) in the shop are often
the most dangerous tools.
And I mean that in the best possible
sense.
Regards
Dave Mundt
"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, Abe
<[email protected]> wrote:
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> >[email protected] says...
> >> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:02:12 -0500, "Sweet Sawdust"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I do own a...osculating sander.
> >>
> >> Do you osculate with this sander while it's plugged in?
> >>
> >> That would definitely make this one the most dangerous.
> >
> >LOL! Well, better osculation than fellation.
>
> Or even worse, http://www.darwinawards.com/stupid/stupid1997-10.html
>
Tim S.:
I doubt a M.D. wrote this considering the grammar used.
"One morning I was called to the emergency room by the head ER nurse. She
directed me to a patient who had refused to describe his problem other then
to say..."
"...then to say..."?
Also, the size seems unbelievable.
"After I asked the nurse to leave us, the patient permitted me to remove his
trousers, shorts, and two or three yards of foul-smelling, stained gauze
wrapped about his scrotum, which was swollen to twice the size of a
grapefruit and extremely tender."
Twice as big as a grapefruit? Maybe not impossible but it just sounds like
another Internet tale to me. Oops, another "then" when he should have used
"than"...
"Convalescence was uneventful, and before his release from the hospital less
then a week later, the patient confided the rest of his story to me."
This is not the work of a medical doctor (or maybe it is and the typist is
actually committing the grammar errors in the transcription process). It is
probably someone who is in med school (or dropped out) who wanted to add to
the fiction floating around the Internet.
"When his scrotum suddenly became caught between the pulley-wheel and the
drive-belt, he was thrown into the air and landed a few feet away."
Um, excuse me, but physics would not allow that to happen. The force would
rip the skin away before lifting 150-200 pounds of human completely off the
ground and hurling him a yard away. This is pure hyperbole whether the
story is true or not. He may have fell and went in the direction of the
pulling instinctively.
The site says it's confirmed true by Darwin. Maybe so but I just doubt it
due to the grammar and exaggeration contained in it.
Apparently, others have "verified" the story but to really do so would
require viewing the actual medical records (which apparently wasn't done on
that site or the one that lists urban legends and hoaxes).
Here's what they say though.
Origins: Ow! The above article did indeed appear in the July 1991 issue of
Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality, submitted by the physician who treated
the victim. We tracked down the doctor to obtain verification [yeah, that's
like asking the Pope if God exists] and further details about the unusual
injury, and he replied as follows:
Dr. William A. Morton, Jr., M.D.
26 February 1994
I am now retired, but submitted the article; treated the patient about 20-25
years ago and have had phone calls from all corners of the U.S. ever since.
A xerox is on the billboard in practically every army post, college dorm,
men's club, etc. I've had interviews/phone by talk-show hosts, etc. No Phil
Donahue yet!
The man actually came to me 3 days post-injury when the fever, swelling, and
pain of secondary infection frightened him. Though unlikely, tetanus was
even a possibility. He was not that impressed with the pain of the moment of
injury - it happened so quickly, like losing your fingertip to a band-saw -
and was unaware his left testis was probably propelled up into the rafters
of the machine shop where he worked.
Every man who questions me imagines the initial pain to have been intense,
but should realize that once the testis had been ripped out (gasp!) there
was not the continuing discomfort one would experience from a first-class
kick in the nuts!
I saw him again 5 years later in the hospital for a non-urologic problem.
Incidentally, the Navy has left xeroxes in every bar along the Mediterranean
from Gibraltar to Tel Aviv - my son's girlfriend saw one in Greece 2 years
ago.
Just because he submitted an article doesn't mean it happened and the
timeframe (20-25 years later) is suspicious to me.
Just my thoughts.
Anybody with me on this? heheheheheheheh
Tim
since you are the word police, let's get YOU caught up on proper
spelling: "alot" should have been "a lot".
there.
feel better?
no?
don't you just hate it when somebody out smart-asses you!
:) relax, I'm just jerking your chain!
BTW, don't mention to me I don't capitalize the first words of a
sentence. I'm a lazy typist.
dave
Silvan wrote:
snip
>
> Mind you, I don't really care. I've seen "alot" worse. I'm just pointing
> out that correcting someone's "grammar" (spelling, actually, in this case;
snip>
Sometimes sayings like that just make me feel so inadequate. Well, he
least least he didn;'t say ovulating.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:32:15 -0400, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Doug Miller wrote:
>
>> Or even worse, http://www.darwinawards.com/stupid/stupid1997-10.html
>
>Gack.
>
>I can't even come up with a good smartass thing to say. Just gack.
In article <Cg83b.275593$o%2.125725@sccrnsc02>, "Mike Hide" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Potentially the most dangerous tool in the shop is either the table saw or
>more likely the shaper . Free handing a complex piece with a cutter inches
>away from your fingers, with three HP and goodness knows how much torque
>powering it is to say the least disconcerting if not bloody scary.
>
>In particular when using a collar trying to get the piece on the collar
>sometimes is difficult enough where you rely on your own strength and
>fortitude to fight the Machine before the collar can be utilized to take the
>load.
>
>Avoiding accidents on this type of machine involves careful planning
>beforehand and intense concentration when use .mjh
Agreed 100%. After reading the cautions in the owner's manual for my shaper, I
concluded that anyone who reads that, and is not a bit scared of what the tool
can do, is not sensible enough to use it.
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On 2/2/2015 7:36 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
> "Timdiana_James" <[email protected]>
> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> replying to Sweet Sawdust, Timdiana_James wrote:
>>> sweetsawdust wrote:
>>>
>>> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop,
>>> based on
>>> the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what
>>> you have
>>> heard from other people.
>
> Fatigue. When I reach a certain point every tool in the shop is
> dangerous. I try to make a hard and fast rule to never do any work after
> I have had one beer or anytime I've been working long enough that I
> start to make mistakes.
>
>
>
I have to watch myself more closely when I'm doing a repetitive task
whether cutting boards down to size, jointing, routing, if I have a
large number of the same operation I learned early on that strict
attention must always be observed.
RonB <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
*snip*
> But I also discovered, also several years ago, that a wood lathe can
> be a sleeping dog. I mounted a glued up rather heavy piece of stock
> made from 2x4 to make a simple over sized dowel for a project. I
> started the machine at about 300rpm to round it up and after about ten
> seconds I was hit smack in the middle of the full face shield. Thank
> goodness I was wearing it. I never saw the stock leave the lathe. I
> remember impact and a stinging sensation. I looked down and the
> work-piece was draped across my arms that were still extended in the
> working position; and I realized there was blood on the shield. The
> piece had split out allowing it to fly out of the lathe and as best I
> could figure it bounced off of the bed and then up to the shield. The
> flexible face shield had deflected into my face striking my glasses.
> The stinging sensation and blood were from the left nose-piece and the
> rims of my glasses scraping my nose and eyebrow. Minor abrasions but
> thank god I was wearing the shield. two of the four snaps that attach
> the shield to the hood were busted loose. Scared the #$@% out of me
> and I never mounted another work piece without a good inspection.
It didn't take long to learn to always wear a face shield (get a good
one) when turning the lathe on. I've been hit in the shield twice since
getting my lathe.
I saw pictures of a grinder wheel break up, and a description of what was
going on. That was enough for me to decide not to stand near the grinder
as it was spinning up. Imagine a machine throwing rocks at 3600 RPM.
> Bill hit it on the head. The brain. The table saw accident was a
> moment of carelessness after I turned the machine off. The lathe
> incident might not have been avoidable. But as I said, I always check
> my stock carefully before mounting it on the lathe.
>
> RonB
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Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in news:Ydudnc_q6fcDa0
[email protected]:
> On 2/4/2015 7:49 PM, Edward A. Falk wrote:
>> Arguably a table saw is the most dangerous tool; it will
>> take your fingers off faster than you can say "ouch" or
>> fling pieces of wood at you at incredible speed.
>
> Mine won't. I practice every safety measure known to mankind. ;~)
>
> And my SawStop helps too.
>
>
You wear chainsaw chaps and high visibility jackets in the shop? Don't
they get in the way?
Puckdropper
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RonB <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 9:59:17 AM UTC-6, RonB wrote:
>>
>> Yeah - I approach the grinder pretty much as I approach the table
>> saw. I try to keep my body away from the plane of the wheel. Even
>> there you can get buggered.
>
> Come to think of it, I would also add radial arm saw to the list of
> tools that can hurt you if you have a thought lapse.
I'm not going to pick on the RAS only:
Any tool that involves spinning a blade can hurt you right quick. I've got
a Dremel Saw Max that spins a little 4" blade. Sure wouldn't take very
long for it to hurt you.
Puckdropper
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On 2/4/2015 8:48 PM, RonB wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 9:59:17 AM UTC-6, RonB wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 4:26:52 AM UTC-6, Puckdropper at dot wrote:
>>> RonB
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>
>>> *snip*
>>>
>>>> But I also discovered, also several years ago, that a wood lathe can
>>>> be a sleeping dog. I mounted a glued up rather heavy piece of stock
>>>> made from 2x4 to make a simple over sized dowel for a project. I
>>>> started the machine at about 300rpm to round it up and after about ten
>>>> seconds I was hit smack in the middle of the full face shield. Thank
>>>> goodness I was wearing it. I never saw the stock leave the lathe. I
>>>> remember impact and a stinging sensation. I looked down and the
>>>> work-piece was draped across my arms that were still extended in the
>>>> working position; and I realized there was blood on the shield. The
>>>> piece had split out allowing it to fly out of the lathe and as best I
>>>> could figure it bounced off of the bed and then up to the shield. The
>>>> flexible face shield had deflected into my face striking my glasses.
>>>> The stinging sensation and blood were from the left nose-piece and the
>>>> rims of my glasses scraping my nose and eyebrow. Minor abrasions but
>>>> thank god I was wearing the shield. two of the four snaps that attach
>>>> the shield to the hood were busted loose. Scared the #$@% out of me
>>>> and I never mounted another work piece without a good inspection.
>>>
>>> It didn't take long to learn to always wear a face shield (get a good
>>> one) when turning the lathe on. I've been hit in the shield twice since
>>> getting my lathe.
>>>
>>> I saw pictures of a grinder wheel break up, and a description of what was
>>> going on. That was enough for me to decide not to stand near the grinder
>>> as it was spinning up. Imagine a machine throwing rocks at 3600 RPM.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Bill hit it on the head. The brain. The table saw accident was a
>>>> moment of carelessness after I turned the machine off. The lathe
>>>> incident might not have been avoidable. But as I said, I always check
>>>> my stock carefully before mounting it on the lathe.
>>>>
>>>> RonB
>>>
>>>
>>> Puckdropper
>>> --
>>> Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
>>
>> Yeah - I approach the grinder pretty much as I approach the table saw. I try to keep my body away from the plane of the wheel. Even there you can get buggered.
>
> Come to think of it, I would also add radial arm saw to the list of tools that can hurt you if you have a thought lapse.
>
I wouldn't dismiss the ubiquitous "box-cutter" either. (don't ask)
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> Not so much as the robotic arms that I use from behind a concrete
> windowed wall to operate the TS. ;~)
You're actually in a bunker 3 miles away, in case of severe kickback then?
Puckdropper
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DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 6:06:15 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>>
>> Yeah! But looking at that picture, there are some that teach to push
>> the wood through like that. IMHO, while you are not in direct line
>> of a possible kickback you are certainly increasing the chances of a
>> kick back. I am of the opinion of that you should be holding down as
>> much as pushing.
>
> It's the other kid with his face in direct line of the kickback that I
> "like". Obviously (at least to me) that picture was staged.
He's got the most important part well back...
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Do you actually read the questions asked?
"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
>
> You would consider a sander more dangerous than potential amputation
> via power saw? Not to mention kick back.
>
> Do you actually participate in the activity of woodworking?
>
> Barry
Ramsey wrote:
> For my money, shaper / jointer. I absolutely dread using a jointer
> when my hand passes over the blades. Sure, I use push blocks and the
> recommended attachments but still---.
So I'm not the only one who _clenches_ during that operation?
I don't mind edge-jointing at all...but face jointing...yikes!
I'm looking forward to getting time to build a 'jointing' sled
for my planer. That way I can stand safely out of the way
and my hands are no longer involved in the operation. :)
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On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 3:44:03 PM UTC-5, Timdiana_James wrote:
> replying to Sweet Sawdust, Timdiana_James wrote:
> > sweetsawdust wrote:
> >
> > What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based on
> > the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you have
> > heard from other people.
> > My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
> > pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
> > reason.
>
>
> For a couple years I've been saying to folks that the shovel and spade are
> the most dangerous tools in my van, with a dodgy back it's just too easy
> and get carried away, then straighten up or get home and bang! ("you got
> shot...?") just get a twinge that lasts for weeks or a trapped nerve
> bundle of joy ;)
>
> I do think I first got the most injuries in the shortest time from filling
> knives, early training from a joiner was of course an absolute ton of
> sanding, filling and painting, so good quality steel filling knives sanded
> clean for years and years, I wouldn't think it'd take more than a leather
> belt to get them to the point where you'd use 'em to shave. And so few of
> Hampshire's windows and rooves/roofs have my precious claret under the
> paintwork.
>
> Most dangerous thing these days is a concrete breaker because of the
> possibility of weakened or thin mineral structure and possible broken
> fingers if you fall down with the machine, and of course the chopsaw
> always makes me double check I'm still fond of both thumbs. I'll probably
> skim a skilsaw over my leg in some Steptoesque home project, at some
> comedy interval in the future, if I do I'll be sure to add it to the list
> :D
>
> --
It looks like no one has been hurt in over 11 years.
replying to DerbyDad03 , Timdiana_James wrote:
> teamarrows wrote:
>
> It looks like no one has been hurt in over 11 years.
Yeah super zombie thread, I beg your pardon - kinda stumbled across you
folks and wanted to tag myself into the forum, shamelessly :D Recently a
new homeowner and handyman/carpenter by trade, this seemed like an
excellent place to hang out :)
And I managed to whack myself with a rebounding wheelbarrow today chucking
it into the van in a temper tantrum - had to learn an irritating and
slightly humbling lesson this morning, so the most dangerous tool was once
again the human brain, aided and abetted by physics, a poor aim and a
wheelbarrow.
--
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:06:06 -0500, "Sweet Sawdust"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based on
>the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you have
>heard from other people.
I vote for the loose nut running things.
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
replying to Sweet Sawdust, Timdiana_James wrote:
> sweetsawdust wrote:
>
> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based on
> the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you have
> heard from other people.
> My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
> pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
> reason.
For a couple years I've been saying to folks that the shovel and spade are
the most dangerous tools in my van, with a dodgy back it's just too easy
and get carried away, then straighten up or get home and bang! ("you got
shot...?") just get a twinge that lasts for weeks or a trapped nerve
bundle of joy ;)
I do think I first got the most injuries in the shortest time from filling
knives, early training from a joiner was of course an absolute ton of
sanding, filling and painting, so good quality steel filling knives sanded
clean for years and years, I wouldn't think it'd take more than a leather
belt to get them to the point where you'd use 'em to shave. And so few of
Hampshire's windows and rooves/roofs have my precious claret under the
paintwork.
Most dangerous thing these days is a concrete breaker because of the
possibility of weakened or thin mineral structure and possible broken
fingers if you fall down with the machine, and of course the chopsaw
always makes me double check I'm still fond of both thumbs. I'll probably
skim a skilsaw over my leg in some Steptoesque home project, at some
comedy interval in the future, if I do I'll be sure to add it to the list
:D
--
On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 9:07:00 PM UTC-6, Max wrote:
> On 2/2/2015 7:36 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
> > "Timdiana_James" <[email protected]>
> > wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> replying to Sweet Sawdust, Timdiana_James wrote:
> >>> sweetsawdust wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop,
> >>> based on
> >>> the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what
> >>> you have
> >>> heard from other people.
> >
> > Fatigue. When I reach a certain point every tool in the shop is
> > dangerous. I try to make a hard and fast rule to never do any work afte=
r
> > I have had one beer or anytime I've been working long enough that I
> > start to make mistakes.
> >
> >
> >
>=20
> I have to watch myself more closely when I'm doing a repetitive task=20
> whether cutting boards down to size, jointing, routing, if I have a=20
> large number of the same operation I learned early on that strict=20
> attention must always be observed.
It was a repetitive task that cause the table saw accident I mentioned earl=
ier. I was cutting several small pieces of oak from a long 1" or so piece =
of square stock. I switched the saw off, started to walk away and realized=
there was still a piece on the table next to the blade. Over-reached the =
blade and "thunk-thunk..." It was still turning and my index finger got n=
icked - all the way to the bone.
Isn't it the pits, especially when you have just done your fingernails in
that new color....mjh
--
mike hide
"Trent©" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:06:06 -0500, "Sweet Sawdust"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based
on
> >the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you
have
> >heard from other people.
>
> Hammer...mainly because we take it for granted.
>
> We know the potential of the power tools...so we're more careful with
> them.
>
> I've grown several new fingernails over the years! lol
>
>
> Have a nice week...
>
> Trent
>
>
> Cat...the OTHER white meat!
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 19:36:30 -0700, "Bob La Londe" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Timdiana_James" <[email protected]> wrote
>in message news:[email protected]...
>> replying to Sweet Sawdust, Timdiana_James wrote:
>>> sweetsawdust wrote:
>>>
>>> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based
>>> on
>>> the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you
>>> have
>>> heard from other people.
>
>Fatigue. When I reach a certain point every tool in the shop is dangerous.
>I try to make a hard and fast rule to never do any work after I have had one
>beer or anytime I've been working long enough that I start to make mistakes.
>
Words to live by.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 05:15:47 GMT, "Mike Hide" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Isn't it the pits, especially when you have just done your fingernails in
>that new color....mjh
I do mine in black-n-blue. That way, they always match! lol
Have a nice week...
Trent
Proud member of the Roy Rogers fan club!
On 2/5/2015 6:51 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 17:05:53 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/5/2015 1:16 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 12:54:18 PM UTC-5, Puckdropper at dot wrote:
>>>> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not so much as the robotic arms that I use from behind a concrete
>>>>> windowed wall to operate the TS. ;~)
>>>>
>>>> You're actually in a bunker 3 miles away, in case of severe kickback then?
>>>>
>>>> Puckdropper
>>>
>>>
>>> I've been teaching my sons all about table saw safety. I think they've grasped the basic concepts...
>>>
>>> http://cdn1.thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/woodshop_1.png
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah! But looking at that picture, there are some that teach to push
>> the wood through like that.
>
> With the wrong hand?
>
>> IMHO, while you are not in direct line of a
>> possible kickback you are certainly increasing the chances of a kick
>> back. I am of the opinion of that you should be holding down as much as
>> pushing.
>
> Sure, he's holding down but he's *not* pushing. I stand to the side,
> behind the fence, as well but push with my left hand while
> guiding/holding with my right. If in doubt, I'll get out the
> featherboards.
I always stand to the opposite side of the blade than the fence.
Typically guide with left hand and feed with right. Assuming the fence
in to the right of the blade. I can get a great grip on the wood this way.
FWIW I have been hit by a flying piece of wood even when on the side of
the fence away from the blade.
My experience is that nowhere is safe if the piece gets loose and thrown
by the blade. Straight back is not always what happens. I find that if
you can better control the wood the less the chance of getting a kick
back in the first place. YMMV.
>
> I also think the kid in the back is trying to give the shop teacher a
> heart attack, too.
>
On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 10:16:57 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote:
> Bob La Londe wrote:
> >
> > Fatigue. When I reach a certain point every tool in the shop is=20
> > dangerous.
>=20
> Agreed. That's when I start pushing too hard, getting too=20
> wreckless/careless.
> Especially as I work with more tools that cut really fast, I'm=20
> recognizing that I have
> be more careful that I used to be. I should be grateful for the numerous=
=20
> small cuts of my youth that taught me good lessons!
How many folks would consider a bar clamp to be a dangerous tool?
When I was building my deck many years ago, I wanted to get a visual of wha=
t the stair railing would look like. There is a landing about 5 feet off th=
e ground and I wanted to attach the bottom rail to the posts to see how hig=
h off of the stair treads I wanted to put it. The closet clamp I had handy =
was a 36" bar clamp, which I attached to the post with the bar sticking out=
into the yard.=20
I stepped back to the side of the steps to look at the rail, decided I want=
ed it in a different position and started walking towards the landing. My e=
yes were focused on the clamp where it held the rail to the post and I didn=
't see the 3/4" x 1/4" end of the bar that was sticking out into the yard. =
About 2 feet from the railing my head snapped back as the end of the steel =
bar cracked the lens of my safety glasses, slid up and gouged my forehead.
The end of the steel bar hit the lens dead center. Had I not been wearing s=
afety glasses it probably would have pushed my eyeball back into my head.
On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 05:08:53 -0500, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 01:49:05 +0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Edward A.
>> Falk) wrote:
>>
>>> Arguably a table saw is the most dangerous tool; it will
>>> take your fingers off faster than you can say "ouch" or
>>> fling pieces of wood at you at incredible speed.
>>>
>>> But for me, my Ryoba hand saw has drawn the most blood.
>> Over the last 63 years the common coping saw has removed more skin and
>> drawn more blood than any other woodworking tool - and most of that
>> was before I was 14!!.
>
>I was thinking of that one too, same time period too. It's funny how
>the blade can find your fingers on the back of the workpiece, isn't
>it? ; )
There are still marks on my knuckles form the coping saw - as well as
a pretty good one from a dull jack-knife.
My grandfather and my father-in-law each lost two fingers on jointers.
Me, I've learned a neat trick --- although the blades on those
jointers, table saws, planers, and band saws tend move quickly, they
never actually go anywhere! Which means that if you don't put your
fingers near them, they can't get you! Push sticks and feather boards
are beautiful things. They have successfully kept all my digits
intact.
But I have dropped a few tools and heavy pieces of lumber on my toes.
I have a bunch of black toenails to prove it. (They eventually grow
out, but I bang them again and get new black spots on my toenails.)
So for me, the most dangerous thing in my shop is my sandals. I could
have eliminated all of my shop injuries over the years ('cept for a
few slivers) simply by wearing my boots.
On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 6:06:15 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> On 2/5/2015 1:16 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 12:54:18 PM UTC-5, Puckdropper at dot wrote:
> >> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> >> news:[email protected]:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Not so much as the robotic arms that I use from behind a concrete
> >>> windowed wall to operate the TS. ;~)
> >>
> >> You're actually in a bunker 3 miles away, in case of severe kickback then?
> >>
> >> Puckdropper
> >
> >
> > I've been teaching my sons all about table saw safety. I think they've grasped the basic concepts...
> >
> > http://cdn1.thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/woodshop_1.png
> >
>
>
> Yeah! But looking at that picture, there are some that teach to push
> the wood through like that. IMHO, while you are not in direct line of a
> possible kickback you are certainly increasing the chances of a kick
> back. I am of the opinion of that you should be holding down as much as
> pushing.
It's the other kid with his face in direct line of the kickback that I "like". Obviously (at least to me) that picture was staged.
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:13:42 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
snip
>
>Or even worse, http://www.darwinawards.com/stupid/stupid1997-10.html
OOOOOO NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO
that's just wrong!!!!
On 2/5/2015 6:54 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in news:Ydudnc_q6fcDa0
> [email protected]:
>
>> On 2/4/2015 7:49 PM, Edward A. Falk wrote:
>>> Arguably a table saw is the most dangerous tool; it will
>>> take your fingers off faster than you can say "ouch" or
>>> fling pieces of wood at you at incredible speed.
>>
>> Mine won't. I practice every safety measure known to mankind. ;~)
>>
>> And my SawStop helps too.
>>
>>
>
> You wear chainsaw chaps and high visibility jackets in the shop? Don't
> they get in the way?
>
> Puckdropper
>
Not so much as the robotic arms that I use from behind a concrete
windowed wall to operate the TS. ;~)
Although I've had the typical scraped knuckles, finger tips, etc. from a
belt sander, I believe the table saw has the most potential. There seems to
be a lot of "variables" in it's use (set up, blade height, etc.) It's the
only tool I've been fortunate enough to only have a close call with - cut
the side of my finger off at the tip 4 years ago (and it still causes me
problems although it was very minor.)
However, if someone isn't being careful, they can all become the "most
dangerous." You did hear about the guy who cut himself with a bandsaw . .
. didn't you?
Jim
"Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based
on
> the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you
have
> heard from other people.
>
> My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
> pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
> reason.
>
>
Potentially the most dangerous tool in the shop is either the table saw or
more likely the shaper . Free handing a complex piece with a cutter inches
away from your fingers, with three HP and goodness knows how much torque
powering it is to say the least disconcerting if not bloody scary.
In particular when using a collar trying to get the piece on the collar
sometimes is difficult enough where you rely on your own strength and
fortitude to fight the Machine before the collar can be utilized to take the
load.
Avoiding accidents on this type of machine involves careful planning
beforehand and intense concentration when use .mjh
--
mike hide
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:5973b.275263$o%2.125728@sccrnsc02...
> Do you actually read the questions asked?
> "B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]>
wrote
> in message news:[email protected]...
> >
> > You would consider a sander more dangerous than potential amputation
> > via power saw? Not to mention kick back.
> >
> > Do you actually participate in the activity of woodworking?
> >
> > Barry
>
>
My personal choice for self-inflicted pain is my oxy-acetelyne torch. I'm
constantly messing around and picking up a hot part, getting slag in my
shirt pocket, just having all sorts of "fun". I wish I were a better
welder, but practice can be a painful process at times. I'm really wanting
a new stick welder so I can burn up a little steel with it for a change.
Jim
"Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based
on
> the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you
have
> heard from other people.
>
> My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
> pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
> reason.
>
>
"Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based
on
> the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you
have
> heard from other people.
>
> My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
> pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
> reason.
>
In thirty years of futzing around in the shop, I've had one minor accident
with the table saw. However, if the total number of painful experiences is
to be believed, the trusty old hammer should have a skull and crossbones
etched on it.
James...
On 2/5/2015 5:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 6:06:15 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> On 2/5/2015 1:16 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 12:54:18 PM UTC-5, Puckdropper at dot wrote:
>>>> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not so much as the robotic arms that I use from behind a concrete
>>>>> windowed wall to operate the TS. ;~)
>>>>
>>>> You're actually in a bunker 3 miles away, in case of severe kickback then?
>>>>
>>>> Puckdropper
>>>
>>>
>>> I've been teaching my sons all about table saw safety. I think they've grasped the basic concepts...
>>>
>>> http://cdn1.thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/woodshop_1.png
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah! But looking at that picture, there are some that teach to push
>> the wood through like that. IMHO, while you are not in direct line of a
>> possible kickback you are certainly increasing the chances of a kick
>> back. I am of the opinion of that you should be holding down as much as
>> pushing.
>
> It's the other kid with his face in direct line of the kickback that I "like". Obviously (at least to me) that picture was staged.
>
Yeah I understood.LOL It was funny.
"David Binkowski" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>I have to admit. I get very giggly when I see someone using a
>sharp pen-knife, or screwdriver to force something. Its not
>funny exactly, but a feeling of hysteria sets in when I see their
>hand begin to tremble, jamming the the small metal object at
>whatever they're working on. I can't NOT watch it, but I feel
>like covering my eyes still.
Paramedics showed up across the street a couple of weeks ago. They
treated the young man (early 20's) for a puncture wound to the
inner thigh (yeah, about 2" away from the jewels). Turns out he
was trying to separate frozen ravioli with a knife.
scott
"Ward Cleaver" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Lawrence Wasserman wrote in rec.woodworking
>
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > Sweet Sawdust <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop,
> >>based on the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on
> >>what you have heard from other people.
> >>
> >>My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small
> >>wood pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press
> >>same reason.
> >
I lost the tips of five fingers in 1958 to the jointer. My fault. Removed
the guard to flat plane a section of a checkerboard made of 2x2 squares of
walnut and maple. Now, one of these fingers is stiff, and I have cut it two
more times -- table saw and router table -- because of the stiffness. I
also have scars from the drill press [nothing serious, but a friend lost a
finger when the bit caught in a steel bar he was drilling and became a
propellor]. But then, I also have an old scar on my belly from a pet
rabbit, so maybe I scar easily. harrym
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:02:12 -0500, "Sweet Sawdust"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I do own a...osculating sander.
>
> Do you osculate with this sander while it's plugged in?
>
> That would definitely make this one the most dangerous.
LOL! Well, better osculation than fellation.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> In article <[email protected]>, Abe <[email protected]> wrote:
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> >[email protected] says...
> >> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:02:12 -0500, "Sweet Sawdust"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I do own a...osculating sander.
> >>
> >> Do you osculate with this sander while it's plugged in?
> >>
> >> That would definitely make this one the most dangerous.
> >
> >LOL! Well, better osculation than fellation.
>
> Or even worse, http://www.darwinawards.com/stupid/stupid1997-10.html
YEEOOOOUUCH! What an idiot. One is left to wonder where the moron's
cow orkers found his missing cojone. Stuck to the ceiling, maybe?
In article <[email protected]>, Trent© <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 01:17:40 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
>>In article <[email protected]>, Trent©
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Hammer...mainly because we take it for granted.
>>>
>>Yep, gotta agree there. I've had more (and worse) injuries from hammers than
>>from all other tools I own combined. Chisels are a distant second, with
>>screwdrivers trailing close behind in third.
>
>Just wondering...
>
>If you agree with me...doesn't that make you an idiot! lol
Not when you happen to be right. Even a blind hog finds an acorn once in a
while.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
On 2/5/2015 1:16 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 12:54:18 PM UTC-5, Puckdropper at dot wrote:
>> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>>
>>> Not so much as the robotic arms that I use from behind a concrete
>>> windowed wall to operate the TS. ;~)
>>
>> You're actually in a bunker 3 miles away, in case of severe kickback then?
>>
>> Puckdropper
>
>
> I've been teaching my sons all about table saw safety. I think they've grasped the basic concepts...
>
> http://cdn1.thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/woodshop_1.png
>
Yeah! But looking at that picture, there are some that teach to push
the wood through like that. IMHO, while you are not in direct line of a
possible kickback you are certainly increasing the chances of a kick
back. I am of the opinion of that you should be holding down as much as
pushing.
In article <[email protected]>, Trent© <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:06:06 -0500, "Sweet Sawdust"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based on
>>the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you have
>>heard from other people.
>
>Hammer...mainly because we take it for granted.
>
Yep, gotta agree there. I've had more (and worse) injuries from hammers than
from all other tools I own combined. Chisels are a distant second, with
screwdrivers trailing close behind in third.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
My mind?
(Is this a trick question?)
-JBB
"Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based
on
> the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you
have
> heard from other people.
>
> My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
> pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
> reason.
>
>
"PJS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In many cases, I would have to say the nut that presses the power switch.
IMHO, this whole thread boils down to the old saw about " the most dangerous
part of a car is the nut holding the steering wheel",as these type replies
seem to be the majority.
Bye,
Nahmie
"Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based
on
> the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you
have
> heard from other people.
>
I think the tool with the most potential is my tablesaw, but since you
phrased the question that way, the tools that have caused me the most pain
in my shop are clearly my golf clubs.
Frank
"David Binkowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> This must come from a person who doesn't yet own a table saw.
Sounds like it came from a person who only owns one tool - a belt sander.
"Ramsey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I don't consider a sander dangerous at all. Harmful but not dangerous.
> The machines likely to do the MOST damage are-table saw, jointer,
> shaper. A sander will burn the fire out of you but it should not ever
> kill you.
He didn't ask which had the most potential - he asked which one has
actually injured you.
Mine would be Chisel, Sander, 12" miter saw (pulled the wrong plug when
I was changing the blade - it didn't hurt me but it cost me a new pair
of BVD's)
Lawrence Wasserman wrote in rec.woodworking
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Sweet Sawdust <[email protected]> wrote:
>>What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop,
>>based on the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on
>>what you have heard from other people.
>>
>>My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small
>>wood pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press
>>same reason.
>
The only accident I have had so far, knock wood, is a tiny little piece
kicked back by the TS that hit me in the side and left small bruise and
scrape. But then I AM a newbie and just need more time probably.
Timdiana_James <[email protected]> wrote
in news:[email protected]:
>> sweetsawdust wrote:
>>
>> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop,
>> based on the number and severity of injuries you have received, not
>> on what you have heard from other people.
>> My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small
>> wood pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press
>> same reason.
>
>
A properly sharpened chisel not handled carefully.
[email protected] (Edward A. Falk) wrote in news:maui6h$4gj$1@blue-
new.rahul.net:
> Arguably a table saw is the most dangerous tool; it will
> take your fingers off faster than you can say "ouch" or
> fling pieces of wood at you at incredible speed.
>
> But for me, my Ryoba hand saw has drawn the most blood.
A good point - the most dangerous tool is the one
you don't respect...
John
On 2/5/2015 11:54 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> Not so much as the robotic arms that I use from behind a concrete
>> windowed wall to operate the TS. ;~)
>
> You're actually in a bunker 3 miles away, in case of severe kickback then?
>
> Puckdropper
>
Yeah! LOL
On 2/4/2015 7:49 PM, Edward A. Falk wrote:
> Arguably a table saw is the most dangerous tool; it will
> take your fingers off faster than you can say "ouch" or
> fling pieces of wood at you at incredible speed.
Mine won't. I practice every safety measure known to mankind. ;~)
And my SawStop helps too.
>
> But for me, my Ryoba hand saw has drawn the most blood.
>
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Seems to me like getting burnt in
> various horrible ways is just par for the course with welding.
It is.
>
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On 2/5/2015 9:19 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 19:26:45 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/5/2015 6:51 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 17:05:53 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/5/2015 1:16 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 12:54:18 PM UTC-5, Puckdropper at dot wrote:
>>>>>> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not so much as the robotic arms that I use from behind a concrete
>>>>>>> windowed wall to operate the TS. ;~)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're actually in a bunker 3 miles away, in case of severe kickback then?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Puckdropper
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been teaching my sons all about table saw safety. I think they've grasped the basic concepts...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://cdn1.thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/woodshop_1.png
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah! But looking at that picture, there are some that teach to push
>>>> the wood through like that.
>>>
>>> With the wrong hand?
>>>
>>>> IMHO, while you are not in direct line of a
>>>> possible kickback you are certainly increasing the chances of a kick
>>>> back. I am of the opinion of that you should be holding down as much as
>>>> pushing.
>>>
>>> Sure, he's holding down but he's *not* pushing. I stand to the side,
>>> behind the fence, as well but push with my left hand while
>>> guiding/holding with my right. If in doubt, I'll get out the
>>> featherboards.
>>
>> I always stand to the opposite side of the blade than the fence.
>> Typically guide with left hand and feed with right. Assuming the fence
>> in to the right of the blade. I can get a great grip on the wood this way.
>> FWIW I have been hit by a flying piece of wood even when on the side of
>> the fence away from the blade.
>
> How the hell did the board cross the fence? You did something *very*
> wrong (as in more than one failure).
Well first don't assume that the whole board will come at you, it could
be defect pieces in the wood that come loose, like a knot. In my case I
was cutting a new lattice panel, One of the small cut off pieces flew
back at me at about a 45 degree angle from the blade. Because it was a
4x8 panel I had to stand to the left of the fence to feed, I had a
helper supporting the panel from the opposite side. The farther the
fence from the blade the more likely the fence will not prevent a
projectile from coming straight back.
>
>> My experience is that nowhere is safe if the piece gets loose and thrown
>> by the blade. Straight back is not always what happens. I find that if
>> you can better control the wood the less the chance of getting a kick
>> back in the first place. YMMV.
>
> Safe is always relative. The house could get hit by a meteorite just
> as your board kicks...
Exactly, safety rules and practices are not a guarantee.
On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 4:26:52 AM UTC-6, Puckdropper at dot wrote:
> RonB
> news:[email protected]:
>
>
> *snip*
>
> > But I also discovered, also several years ago, that a wood lathe can
> > be a sleeping dog. I mounted a glued up rather heavy piece of stock
> > made from 2x4 to make a simple over sized dowel for a project. I
> > started the machine at about 300rpm to round it up and after about ten
> > seconds I was hit smack in the middle of the full face shield. Thank
> > goodness I was wearing it. I never saw the stock leave the lathe. I
> > remember impact and a stinging sensation. I looked down and the
> > work-piece was draped across my arms that were still extended in the
> > working position; and I realized there was blood on the shield. The
> > piece had split out allowing it to fly out of the lathe and as best I
> > could figure it bounced off of the bed and then up to the shield. The
> > flexible face shield had deflected into my face striking my glasses.
> > The stinging sensation and blood were from the left nose-piece and the
> > rims of my glasses scraping my nose and eyebrow. Minor abrasions but
> > thank god I was wearing the shield. two of the four snaps that attach
> > the shield to the hood were busted loose. Scared the #$@% out of me
> > and I never mounted another work piece without a good inspection.
>
> It didn't take long to learn to always wear a face shield (get a good
> one) when turning the lathe on. I've been hit in the shield twice since
> getting my lathe.
>
> I saw pictures of a grinder wheel break up, and a description of what was
> going on. That was enough for me to decide not to stand near the grinder
> as it was spinning up. Imagine a machine throwing rocks at 3600 RPM.
>
>
> > Bill hit it on the head. The brain. The table saw accident was a
> > moment of carelessness after I turned the machine off. The lathe
> > incident might not have been avoidable. But as I said, I always check
> > my stock carefully before mounting it on the lathe.
> >
> > RonB
>
>
> Puckdropper
> --
> Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
Yeah - I approach the grinder pretty much as I approach the table saw. I try to keep my body away from the plane of the wheel. Even there you can get buggered.
On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 12:54:18 PM UTC-5, Puckdropper at dot wrote:
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> >
> > Not so much as the robotic arms that I use from behind a concrete
> > windowed wall to operate the TS. ;~)
>
> You're actually in a bunker 3 miles away, in case of severe kickback then?
>
> Puckdropper
I've been teaching my sons all about table saw safety. I think they've grasped the basic concepts...
http://cdn1.thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/woodshop_1.png
In article <[email protected]>, Abe <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] says...
>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:02:12 -0500, "Sweet Sawdust"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >I do own a...osculating sander.
>>
>> Do you osculate with this sander while it's plugged in?
>>
>> That would definitely make this one the most dangerous.
>
>LOL! Well, better osculation than fellation.
Or even worse, http://www.darwinawards.com/stupid/stupid1997-10.html
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On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 9:59:17 AM UTC-6, RonB wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 4:26:52 AM UTC-6, Puckdropper at dot wrote:
> > RonB
> > news:[email protected]:
> >
> >
> > *snip*
> >
> > > But I also discovered, also several years ago, that a wood lathe can
> > > be a sleeping dog. I mounted a glued up rather heavy piece of stock
> > > made from 2x4 to make a simple over sized dowel for a project. I
> > > started the machine at about 300rpm to round it up and after about ten
> > > seconds I was hit smack in the middle of the full face shield. Thank
> > > goodness I was wearing it. I never saw the stock leave the lathe. I
> > > remember impact and a stinging sensation. I looked down and the
> > > work-piece was draped across my arms that were still extended in the
> > > working position; and I realized there was blood on the shield. The
> > > piece had split out allowing it to fly out of the lathe and as best I
> > > could figure it bounced off of the bed and then up to the shield. The
> > > flexible face shield had deflected into my face striking my glasses.
> > > The stinging sensation and blood were from the left nose-piece and the
> > > rims of my glasses scraping my nose and eyebrow. Minor abrasions but
> > > thank god I was wearing the shield. two of the four snaps that attach
> > > the shield to the hood were busted loose. Scared the #$@% out of me
> > > and I never mounted another work piece without a good inspection.
> >
> > It didn't take long to learn to always wear a face shield (get a good
> > one) when turning the lathe on. I've been hit in the shield twice since
> > getting my lathe.
> >
> > I saw pictures of a grinder wheel break up, and a description of what was
> > going on. That was enough for me to decide not to stand near the grinder
> > as it was spinning up. Imagine a machine throwing rocks at 3600 RPM.
> >
> >
> > > Bill hit it on the head. The brain. The table saw accident was a
> > > moment of carelessness after I turned the machine off. The lathe
> > > incident might not have been avoidable. But as I said, I always check
> > > my stock carefully before mounting it on the lathe.
> > >
> > > RonB
> >
> >
> > Puckdropper
> > --
> > Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
>
> Yeah - I approach the grinder pretty much as I approach the table saw. I try to keep my body away from the plane of the wheel. Even there you can get buggered.
Come to think of it, I would also add radial arm saw to the list of tools that can hurt you if you have a thought lapse.
"Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]>
wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop,
For me, it has to be the humble screwdriver.
Three times over the last 25 years, I've put screwdrivers straight through
one of my fingers, usually when (mis)using one to remove a circlip.
I did eventually learn from this repeated painful experience and bought a
pair
of circlip pliers.
Now, if you had asked which tool has the most potential for danger,
that would have to be the table saw but luckily, I've not found a way
of removing circlips with the TS yet
In article <[email protected]>,
Sweet Sawdust <[email protected]> wrote:
>What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based on
>the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you have
>heard from other people.
>
>My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
>pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
>reason.
>
>
Worst single injury: a back saw. holding on to a board, to 'stabilize' it in
a light-duty vice, while hand-sawing, and "didn't notice" that my hand was in
the path of the blade. Untill it was about 1/16" into the -bone- of the 1st
joint of my finger, that is. No pain, very little blood -- only about a 1.5"
long scar to show for it. oh, yeah. 35+ years ago.
most injuries: the paper I have plans, cut-lists, "whatever" listed on
(paper cuts)
Second place: hammer. hit the nail right on the thumb, or equivalent.
I've -never- had an injury with a power tool.
My chick when I wont come in for dinner.
"Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based
on
> the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you
have
> heard from other people.
>
> My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
> pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
> reason.
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
Norman D. Crow <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"PJS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> In many cases, I would have to say the nut that presses the power switch.
>
>
>IMHO, this whole thread boils down to the old saw about " the most dangerous
>part of a car is the nut holding the steering wheel",as these type replies
>seem to be the majority.
The classical description of the causative factor for most automobile accidents,
_particularly_ the one-car variety, is:
"loose nut behind the wheel"
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:06:06 -0500, "Sweet Sawdust"
<[email protected]> Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
>What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop,
snip
i would have to agree with Bill who posted on this one,,,
the most dangerous thing in my shop is the operator of the tool...
IE: me
if i don't keep my mind on what i am doing all the time, i am
dangerous.
of course, my wife says if i had half a brain i would be
dangerous..but that's another matter all together.
Traves
My table saw...and the idiot that turned it on. :-)
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"Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based
on
> the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you
have
> heard from other people.
>
> My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
> pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
> reason.
>
>
I have to admit. I get very giggly when I see someone using a
sharp pen-knife, or screwdriver to force something. Its not
funny exactly, but a feeling of hysteria sets in when I see their
hand begin to tremble, jamming the the small metal object at
whatever they're working on. I can't NOT watch it, but I feel
like covering my eyes still.
And invariably it ends up with the implement slipping forward,
and the person grabs one hand or the other tightly to stop the
bleeding. Sometimes it just results in a bad blood blister or
torn off finger nail...
Rule of thumb. If you have ANYTHING in your hand that
you are applying force to, and any part of you, or the tool
begins trembling, start over and find a better way...
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So I installed it on Linux...
"AJS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]>
> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>
> > What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop,
>
> For me, it has to be the humble screwdriver.
> Three times over the last 25 years, I've put screwdrivers straight through
> one of my fingers, usually when (mis)using one to remove a circlip.
> I did eventually learn from this repeated painful experience and bought a
> pair
> of circlip pliers.
>
> Now, if you had asked which tool has the most potential for danger,
> that would have to be the table saw but luckily, I've not found a way
> of removing circlips with the TS yet
>
>
>
>
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 14:38:12 GMT, Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>I drew more blood from chisels than anything else. I never got hurt
>from my drill press, bandsaw, table saw, lathe, nor jointer. Maybe
>the most dangerous tool is your brain, when it is not working
>properly.
Exactly, Phisherman, exactly. Ya beat me to it. All the other
responses assume power tools are the category, except hammer users.
But there's nail guns-
I've been nipped by my bandsaw only once that counted, and lightly
grazed by my jointer. Not a TS victim yet and pray I never will be.
But chisels, whether little bitty carving or Sorby Heavy-Duty
mortising, gum me regularly. A tiny burst of impatience, a drift of
attention, and *yeowdammit" rings thru the room once more.
James
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http://[email protected]
On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 9:07:00 PM UTC-6, Max wrote:
> I have to watch myself more closely when I'm doing a repetitive task=20
> whether cutting boards down to size, jointing, routing, if I have a=20
> large number of the same operation I learned early on that strict=20
> attention must always be observed.
I've been doing lots of jointing, lately.... making sure my loose sweatshir=
t sleeves are pulled up to my elbows. Similarly, I make sure my shirt tai=
l is not loose enough, such that the wind, from the spinning jointer head, =
doesn't draw my shirt into the blade area.... I don't have the guard insta=
lled over the head.
Sonny
On Tuesday, August 26, 2003 at 10:59:40 PM UTC-5, Sweet Sawdust wrote:
> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based =
on
> the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you ha=
ve
> heard from other people.
>=20
> My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
> pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
> reason.
When i think of dangerous I don't think of the sander. Granted I have had =
a couple of close manicures with my oscillating drum sander. I think many =
will agree, as some have already, it is the table saw. I was nicked by a s=
pinning blade probably 5-10 seconds after I turned mine off several years a=
go. Stupid mistake that got me an evening in the emergency room, a chipped=
bone under a nasty abrasion and some antibiotic shots.
But I also discovered, also several years ago, that a wood lathe can be a s=
leeping dog. I mounted a glued up rather heavy piece of stock made from 2x=
4 to make a simple over sized dowel for a project. I started the machine a=
t about 300rpm to round it up and after about ten seconds I was hit smack i=
n the middle of the full face shield. Thank goodness I was wearing it. I =
never saw the stock leave the lathe. I remember impact and a stinging sens=
ation. I looked down and the work-piece was draped across my arms that wer=
e still extended in the working position; and I realized there was blood on=
the shield. The piece had split out allowing it to fly out of the lathe a=
nd as best I could figure it bounced off of the bed and then up to the shie=
ld. The flexible face shield had deflected into my face striking my glasse=
s. The stinging sensation and blood were from the left nose-piece and the =
rims of my glasses scraping my nose and eyebrow. Minor abrasions but thank=
god I was wearing the shield. two of the four snaps that attach the shiel=
d to the hood were busted loose. Scared the #$@% out of me and I never mou=
nted another work piece without a good inspection.
Bill hit it on the head. The brain. The table saw accident was a moment of=
carelessness after I turned the machine off. The lathe incident might not=
have been avoidable. But as I said, I always check my stock carefully bef=
ore mounting it on the lathe.
RonB
In article <Cg83b.275593$o%2.125725@sccrnsc02>, "Mike Hide" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Potentially the most dangerous tool in the shop is either the table saw or
>more likely the shaper . Free handing a complex piece with a cutter inches
>away from your fingers, with three HP and goodness knows how much torque
>powering it is to say the least disconcerting if not bloody scary.
>
>In particular when using a collar trying to get the piece on the collar
>sometimes is difficult enough where you rely on your own strength and
>fortitude to fight the Machine before the collar can be utilized to take the
>load.
>
>Avoiding accidents on this type of machine involves careful planning
>beforehand and intense concentration when use .mjh
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Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:06:06 -0500, "Sweet Sawdust"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
>pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
>reason.
>
You would consider a sander more dangerous than potential amputation
via power saw? Not to mention kick back.
Do you actually participate in the activity of woodworking?
Barry
Doug Miller wrote:
> Or even worse, http://www.darwinawards.com/stupid/stupid1997-10.html
Gack.
I can't even come up with a good smartass thing to say. Just gack.
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:07:14 +0100, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
snip
>For past injuries, it's my chain blocks. Dropped some girder on my
>foot once and squashed a foot flat.
That's gonna leave a mark
Traves
On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 01:49:05 +0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Edward A.
Falk) wrote:
>Arguably a table saw is the most dangerous tool; it will
>take your fingers off faster than you can say "ouch" or
>fling pieces of wood at you at incredible speed.
>
>But for me, my Ryoba hand saw has drawn the most blood.
Over the last 63 years the common coping saw has removed more skin and
drawn more blood than any other woodworking tool - and most of that
was before I was 14!!.
Jim Mc Namara wrote:
> However, if someone isn't being careful, they can all become the "most
> dangerous." You did hear about the guy who cut himself with a bandsaw .
> . . didn't you?
Yeah, with the 1 tpi blade. Yeeeeowch!!!!!!!!!!
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screwdriver, followed by hammer. So far I've got no injuries from power
tools. Hope that streak runs forever.
dave
Sweet Sawdust wrote:
> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based on
> the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you have
> heard from other people.
>
> My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
> pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
> reason.
>
>
Phisherman wrote:
> I drew more blood from chisels than anything else. I never got hurt
> from my drill press, bandsaw, table saw, lathe, nor jointer. Maybe
> the most dangerous tool is your brain, when it is not working
> properly.
Oooh...forgot about the chisels. They are right behind the hammer...
and gaining quickly. I cut myself with a brand new chisel a few
days ago getting it out of the packaging...glad nobody was watching :)
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In article <[email protected]>,
Sweet Sawdust <[email protected]> wrote:
>What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based on
>the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you have
>heard from other people.
>
>My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
>pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
>reason.
>
>
Razor knife
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[email protected]
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 01:17:40 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, Trent© <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:06:06 -0500, "Sweet Sawdust"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based on
>>>the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you have
>>>heard from other people.
>>
>>Hammer...mainly because we take it for granted.
>>
>Yep, gotta agree there. I've had more (and worse) injuries from hammers than
>from all other tools I own combined. Chisels are a distant second, with
>screwdrivers trailing close behind in third.
Just wondering...
If you agree with me...doesn't that make you an idiot! lol
Have a nice week...
Trent
Proud member of the Roy Rogers fan club!
On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 17:05:53 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 2/5/2015 1:16 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 12:54:18 PM UTC-5, Puckdropper at dot wrote:
>>> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not so much as the robotic arms that I use from behind a concrete
>>>> windowed wall to operate the TS. ;~)
>>>
>>> You're actually in a bunker 3 miles away, in case of severe kickback then?
>>>
>>> Puckdropper
>>
>>
>> I've been teaching my sons all about table saw safety. I think they've grasped the basic concepts...
>>
>> http://cdn1.thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/woodshop_1.png
>>
>
>
>Yeah! But looking at that picture, there are some that teach to push
>the wood through like that.
With the wrong hand?
>IMHO, while you are not in direct line of a
>possible kickback you are certainly increasing the chances of a kick
>back. I am of the opinion of that you should be holding down as much as
>pushing.
Sure, he's holding down but he's *not* pushing. I stand to the side,
behind the fence, as well but push with my left hand while
guiding/holding with my right. If in doubt, I'll get out the
featherboards.
I also think the kid in the back is trying to give the shop teacher a
heart attack, too.
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> since you are the word police, let's get YOU caught up on proper
> spelling: "alot" should have been "a lot".
pssssss - that's why he had it in quotes.
On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 19:48:06 -0800 (PST), RonB <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 9:59:17 AM UTC-6, RonB wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 4:26:52 AM UTC-6, Puckdropper at dot wrote:
>> > RonB
>> > news:[email protected]:
>> >
>> >
>> > *snip*
>> >
>> > > But I also discovered, also several years ago, that a wood lathe can
>> > > be a sleeping dog. I mounted a glued up rather heavy piece of stock
>> > > made from 2x4 to make a simple over sized dowel for a project. I
>> > > started the machine at about 300rpm to round it up and after about ten
>> > > seconds I was hit smack in the middle of the full face shield. Thank
>> > > goodness I was wearing it. I never saw the stock leave the lathe. I
>> > > remember impact and a stinging sensation. I looked down and the
>> > > work-piece was draped across my arms that were still extended in the
>> > > working position; and I realized there was blood on the shield. The
>> > > piece had split out allowing it to fly out of the lathe and as best I
>> > > could figure it bounced off of the bed and then up to the shield. The
>> > > flexible face shield had deflected into my face striking my glasses.
>> > > The stinging sensation and blood were from the left nose-piece and the
>> > > rims of my glasses scraping my nose and eyebrow. Minor abrasions but
>> > > thank god I was wearing the shield. two of the four snaps that attach
>> > > the shield to the hood were busted loose. Scared the #$@% out of me
>> > > and I never mounted another work piece without a good inspection.
>> >
>> > It didn't take long to learn to always wear a face shield (get a good
>> > one) when turning the lathe on. I've been hit in the shield twice since
>> > getting my lathe.
>> >
>> > I saw pictures of a grinder wheel break up, and a description of what was
>> > going on. That was enough for me to decide not to stand near the grinder
>> > as it was spinning up. Imagine a machine throwing rocks at 3600 RPM.
>> >
>> >
>> > > Bill hit it on the head. The brain. The table saw accident was a
>> > > moment of carelessness after I turned the machine off. The lathe
>> > > incident might not have been avoidable. But as I said, I always check
>> > > my stock carefully before mounting it on the lathe.
>> > >
>> > > RonB
>> >
>> >
>> > Puckdropper
>> > --
>> > Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
>>
>> Yeah - I approach the grinder pretty much as I approach the table saw. I try to keep my body away from the plane of the wheel. Even there you can get buggered.
>
>Come to think of it, I would also add radial arm saw to the list of tools that can hurt you if you have a thought lapse.
Uh, oh! Here we go again! ;-)
"Timdiana_James" <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> replying to Sweet Sawdust, Timdiana_James wrote:
>> sweetsawdust wrote:
>>
>> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based
>> on
>> the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you
>> have
>> heard from other people.
Fatigue. When I reach a certain point every tool in the shop is dangerous.
I try to make a hard and fast rule to never do any work after I have had one
beer or anytime I've been working long enough that I start to make mistakes.
On 2/2/2015 3:44 PM, Timdiana_James wrote:
> replying to Sweet Sawdust, Timdiana_James wrote:
>> sweetsawdust wrote:
>>
>> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based on
>> the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you have
>> heard from other people.
>> My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
>> pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
>> reason.
>
>
> For a couple years I've been saying to folks that the shovel and spade are
> the most dangerous tools in my van, with a dodgy back it's just too easy
> and get carried away, then straighten up or get home and bang! ("you got
> shot...?") just get a twinge that lasts for weeks or a trapped nerve
> bundle of joy ;)
> I do think I first got the most injuries in the shortest time from filling
> knives, early training from a joiner was of course an absolute ton of
> sanding, filling and painting, so good quality steel filling knives sanded
> clean for years and years, I wouldn't think it'd take more than a leather
> belt to get them to the point where you'd use 'em to shave. And so few of
> Hampshire's windows and rooves/roofs have my precious claret under the
> paintwork.
>
> Most dangerous thing these days is a concrete breaker because of the
> possibility of weakened or thin mineral structure and possible broken
> fingers if you fall down with the machine, and of course the chopsaw
> always makes me double check I'm still fond of both thumbs. I'll probably
> skim a skilsaw over my leg in some Steptoesque home project, at some
> comedy interval in the future, if I do I'll be sure to add it to the list
> :D
>
The most dangerous tool in my shop, at least judged by severity of wounds
so far, is a super-sharp 1/2" chisel which I fumbled and dropped and which
managed to stick itself in the top of my right foot. Luckily it was
oriented to miss cutting anything critical but it sure hurt like hell for a
while.
Bob La Londe wrote:
>
> Fatigue. When I reach a certain point every tool in the shop is
> dangerous.
Agreed. That's when I start pushing too hard, getting too
wreckless/careless.
Especially as I work with more tools that cut really fast, I'm
recognizing that I have
be more careful that I used to be. I should be grateful for the numerous
small cuts of my youth that taught me good lessons!
Arguably a table saw is the most dangerous tool; it will
take your fingers off faster than you can say "ouch" or
fling pieces of wood at you at incredible speed.
But for me, my Ryoba hand saw has drawn the most blood.
--
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[email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 01:49:05 +0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Edward A.
> Falk) wrote:
>
>> Arguably a table saw is the most dangerous tool; it will
>> take your fingers off faster than you can say "ouch" or
>> fling pieces of wood at you at incredible speed.
>>
>> But for me, my Ryoba hand saw has drawn the most blood.
> Over the last 63 years the common coping saw has removed more skin and
> drawn more blood than any other woodworking tool - and most of that
> was before I was 14!!.
I was thinking of that one too, same time period too. It's funny how
the blade can find your fingers on the back of the workpiece, isn't
it? ; )
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 05:13:06 GMT, "Mike Hide" <[email protected]>
pixelated:
>Reading this post leads me to believe the only tool you have in your shop
>are screwdrivers........mjh
That wouldn't _quite_ be true, Mikey. I do have just a few
more tools.
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-------------------------------------------------------
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:54:14 GMT, "Frank Ketchum"
<[email protected]> Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
>
>"Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based
>on
>> the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you
>have
>> heard from other people.
>>
>
>I think the tool with the most potential is my tablesaw, but since you
>phrased the question that way, the tools that have caused me the most pain
>in my shop are clearly my golf clubs.
you golf in your shop? wow i wish i had your floor space
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
"Timdiana_James" <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> replying to Sweet Sawdust, Timdiana_James wrote:
>> sweetsawdust wrote:
>>
>>> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based
>>> on
>>> the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you
>>> have
>>> heard from other people.
>Fatigue.
That about sums it up...
Case in point: While cleaning up my shop over the past week I came across
part of a glued up panel that was destroyed by a kick back on the table
saw... I was trying to finish the project in time for a show, it was late,
and I was tired. I didn't reinstalled the T-Splitter as I just had to make
one cut... all Hell broke loose. I haven't made a through cut since without
the T-Splitter or crosscut sled in place!
Tim Simmons wrote:
> I doubt a M.D. wrote this considering the grammar used.
Nothing was wrong with the grammar per se. Just the spelling. I could
believe a doctor wrote it. Doctors are not, in my experience, any more
inclined to be literate than bankers.
> Also, the size seems unbelievable.
Agreed. I've had occasion to stick a softball in my pants. (Don't ask.)
That's about the size of a grapefruit. It was difficult to fasten them.
If I tried to put something twice that size in there, there's no way I
could get them on.
> Um, excuse me, but physics would not allow that to happen. The force
> ground and hurling him a yard away. This is pure hyperbole whether the
Agreed. Rather like someone getting hit in the chest with a blast from a
12-gauge and flying 15 feet straight backwards and knocking a pinball
machine through a plate glass window. Yeah, right.
> story is true or not. He may have fell and went in the direction of the
> pulling instinctively.
This is where getting picky about people's grammar always bites one in the
ass. That masterfully crafted last sentence of yours is just screaming for
someone to step up and correct it.
Mind you, I don't really care. I've seen "alot" worse. I'm just pointing
out that correcting someone's "grammar" (spelling, actually, in this case;
and he also forgot at least one apostrophe) while making such an egregious
mistake is a recipe for some smartass like me stepping up to put you in
your place. :)
I'll give you a chance to correct yourself before I break out the red
pencil. ;)
> Anybody with me on this? heheheheheheheh
There's really no telling unless you go to the hospital in question, break
into their records, and try to comb through them until you find the actual
case notes. I agree with you that it's a souped up story at best, but
there might or might not be a large grain of truth to it.
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:06:06 -0500, "Sweet Sawdust"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based on
>the number and severity of injuries you have received,
Who cares ? I've not yet sawn an arm off, I know some of my machines
could easily do it. The _potential_ for injury is more important than
its past history.
For past injuries, it's my chain blocks. Dropped some girder on my
foot once and squashed a foot flat.
Then, based on the given criteria, your answer is non. You do get points,
though, for actually reading and understanding the question.
"GTO69RA4" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> You're question doesn't quite have an answer the way it's phrased. I
haven't
> hurt myself any of my tools within recent memory, but it doesn't mean
they're
> all at the same danger level.
>
> I've always put the drill press, belt grinder, and scroll saw in the
"safest
> tool" catagory. The table saw, shaper, and jointer are the ones to watch
out
> for. Flying and impaled body parts can ruin a good day.
>
> GTO(John)
>
> >What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based
on
> >the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you
have
> >heard from other people.
> >
> >My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
> >pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
> >reason.
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 14:56:02 +0000, Rich Stern wrote:
>>What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based on
>>the number and severity of injuries you have received,
>
> 1. Knives that use razor blade edges, such as x-acto and retractables.
>
> 2. Everything else.
>
> As I get older, I gain more respect for the fact that injuries only take a
> slight lapse in vigilence.
>
> My last significant injury came from a 13.2v cordless drill and a standard 1/8"
> drill bit. The bit was a little dull, I pressed a little too hard, and in a
> blink, it snapped and the resulting slip put the remainder of the bit all the
> way through my left index finger near the knuckle. Looked kinda stupid
> fumbling for the reverse on the drill so I could back the bit out of my finger.
>
> Even battery powered tools can be dangerous.
>
> Rich S.
I've only been doing this for a few months, and I've already had several
accidents in the shop, and only my safety glasses saved me from serious
injury and possibly a lost eye.
#1. A buddy was drilling and he hadn't put
the bit into the chuck right and as soon as he applied any pressure, the
bit snapped and hit me square in the face. Specifically, the eye. My
safety glasses took the hit and when I went to pick the bit up off the
floor it was so hot it burned my finger.
#2. Same buddy was doing a cut with a reciprocating saw on some scrap.
There was a nail in it that he didn't know/forgot about and he didn't have
the right kind of blade in the saw. It got to the nail and the saw blade
snapped and flew across the room. Luckily it didn't hit anybody.
#3. I was doing some brief chiselling tasks the other day and figured I
didn't need to clamp the piece down, I could just hold it with my hand for
these few little cuts. Wrong. The chisel slipped and now I've got a
chisel-width scar on my wrist.
#4. I was trying to drill a drywall screw and had the drill on reverse. I
had some stubborn knotholes to get through and rather than do a pilot hole
I decided to let the screw do the work. I leaned into the drill and
turned it on and it slipped off the screw and landed on the back of my
hand, which I was using to hold the screw up. So stupid. Didn't even
break the skin, luckily.
I wear my safety glasses pretty much all the time unless I'm just laying
something out. I'm a big dude and my body heat tends to fog them up, so I
wear them during cuts, drilling, hammering, etc, and remove them to just
line things up, clamp, etc. I also wear hearing protection during
anything moderately loud. I've got some hearing loss already from a
decade full of rock concerts and garage band practice, I don't need any
more of it to go.
So, how many fingers are you missing? He specified most dangerous tool based
on accidents you have had, not someone else.
"David Binkowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> This must come from a person who doesn't yet own a table saw.
>
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:05:10 -0500, D K Woods
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I don't think there's a definitive answer out there. Statistically
>speaking, I believe there are more accidents with table saws and circular
>saws. But I heard a saying once that the most dangerous tool in your shop
>is the one you're afraid of, and the second most dangerous tool in your
>shop is the one you respect the least. Don't think it doesn't apply to
>you.
The statistics can be a bit misleading, since only the TS, planer,
jointer and BS are likely to produce an ER visit from *any* accident.
My most severe injury with a tool came from a drum-type Surform tool.
I was shaping a table leg or something and it just ran right up my
thumb. Those little cutters work just as well on flesh as they do on
wood! That one is not a statistic though, because I just put 6-8
band-aids on it and went back to work.
"Most Dangerous" can be defined as the tool that is most likely to
cause *any* injury, or as the tool most likely to cause the *most
severe* injury. In the first category is the hammer, the second is
represented by the TS.
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
Kelby wrote:
> But I have dropped a few tools and heavy pieces of lumber on my toes.
> I have a bunch of black toenails to prove it. (They eventually grow
> out, but I bang them again and get new black spots on my toenails.)
> So for me, the most dangerous thing in my shop is my sandals. I could
> have eliminated all of my shop injuries over the years ('cept for a
> few slivers) simply by wearing my boots.
Me too. I have a tiny sliver of swarf embedded somewhere deep inside my
left foot, and an ugly place on my right foot where I dropped not one, not
two, but three box end wrenches off the workbench and right onto my foot.
I should definitely wear boots in the shop, but I have to wear boots
professionally, and I tend to wear my comfortable shoes--sandals or
mocasins--at home, logic be damned. Putting on my boots to go to the shop
feels too much like work.
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Bay Area Dave wrote:
> since you are the word police, let's get YOU caught up on proper
> spelling: "alot" should have been "a lot".
> don't you just hate it when somebody out smart-asses you!
That's why I put it in quotes, so nyah! :)
> :) relax, I'm just jerking your chain!
>
> BTW, don't mention to me I don't capitalize the first words of a
> sentence. I'm a lazy typist.
Just as long as you don't suddenly decide to become "kewl" and start using
"u" as a subject pronoun we'll get along fine.
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Walked away from the monitor with my hands deep in my pockets on that one
... thanks for the mental image.
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"Gfretwell" wrote in message
> for the worst injuries. They just had a guy slip on a ladder Friday and he
cut
> 3 fingers off on the garage door track when he tried to catch himself. He
> grabbed the radius bend and his fingers were sliced off by the bracket at
the
> bottom of the curve.
> OW! OW! OW!
>
Gfretwell wrote:
> ladder Friday and he cut 3 fingers off on the garage door track when he
> tried to catch himself. He grabbed the radius bend and his fingers were
> sliced off by the bracket at the bottom of the curve.
> OW! OW! OW!
<sucking gasping sounds>
Gack!!!!
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On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 19:26:45 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 2/5/2015 6:51 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 17:05:53 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/5/2015 1:16 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 12:54:18 PM UTC-5, Puckdropper at dot wrote:
>>>>> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not so much as the robotic arms that I use from behind a concrete
>>>>>> windowed wall to operate the TS. ;~)
>>>>>
>>>>> You're actually in a bunker 3 miles away, in case of severe kickback then?
>>>>>
>>>>> Puckdropper
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've been teaching my sons all about table saw safety. I think they've grasped the basic concepts...
>>>>
>>>> http://cdn1.thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/woodshop_1.png
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah! But looking at that picture, there are some that teach to push
>>> the wood through like that.
>>
>> With the wrong hand?
>>
>>> IMHO, while you are not in direct line of a
>>> possible kickback you are certainly increasing the chances of a kick
>>> back. I am of the opinion of that you should be holding down as much as
>>> pushing.
>>
>> Sure, he's holding down but he's *not* pushing. I stand to the side,
>> behind the fence, as well but push with my left hand while
>> guiding/holding with my right. If in doubt, I'll get out the
>> featherboards.
>
>I always stand to the opposite side of the blade than the fence.
>Typically guide with left hand and feed with right. Assuming the fence
>in to the right of the blade. I can get a great grip on the wood this way.
>FWIW I have been hit by a flying piece of wood even when on the side of
>the fence away from the blade.
How the hell did the board cross the fence? You did something *very*
wrong (as in more than one failure).
>My experience is that nowhere is safe if the piece gets loose and thrown
>by the blade. Straight back is not always what happens. I find that if
>you can better control the wood the less the chance of getting a kick
>back in the first place. YMMV.
Safe is always relative. The house could get hit by a meteorite just
as your board kicks...
>
>
>
>>
>> I also think the kid in the back is trying to give the shop teacher a
>> heart attack, too.
>>
On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 02:17:43 GMT, sawdustmaker <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Timdiana_James <[email protected]> wrote
>in news:[email protected]:
>
>>> sweetsawdust wrote:
>>>
>>> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop,
>>> based on the number and severity of injuries you have received, not
>>> on what you have heard from other people.
>>> My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small
>>> wood pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press
>>> same reason.
>>
>>
>A properly sharpened chisel not handled carefully.
An unsharpened chisel used normally.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:34:56 GMT, "Jim Mc Namara" <[email protected]>
Crawled out of the shop and said. . .:
>
>"RichardS" <noaccess@invalid> wrote in message:
>> Quite.
>>
>> Gorilla Glue would have been a much more suitable repair.
>
>Nah - Traves would have enjoyed the "squeeze out" too much! LOL!
>
>Jums (g, r, & d!)
i have to admit,,,i have a thing for watching it bubble...
*sniff*
"my name is Traves, and im a gorrillaholic"
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:49:03 GMT, "CW" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>That's not what he asked. He is not interested in statistics.
I wasn't responding to the OP, I was commenting on the difficulty of
defining most dangerous in a context raised by another poster.
Threads do wander, you know.
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
are you implying that I'm not already "cool"? <g>
I don't use "u" but we MIGHT not get along anyway.
I'M KIDDING!
dave
Silvan wrote:
> Bay Area Dave wrote:
>
>
>>since you are the word police, let's get YOU caught up on proper
>>spelling: "alot" should have been "a lot".
>
>
>>don't you just hate it when somebody out smart-asses you!
>
>
> That's why I put it in quotes, so nyah! :)
>
>
>>:) relax, I'm just jerking your chain!
>>
>>BTW, don't mention to me I don't capitalize the first words of a
>>sentence. I'm a lazy typist.
>
>
> Just as long as you don't suddenly decide to become "kewl" and start using
> "u" as a subject pronoun we'll get along fine.
>
wonder where he 'buys' all the small wood pieces he sands?
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"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "David Binkowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > This must come from a person who doesn't yet own a table saw.
>
> Sounds like it came from a person who only owns one tool - a belt sander.
>
>
I do own a table saw, radial arm saw, band saw, routers, drill presses,
osculating sander, stationary belt sander, planner, jointer, lathe, chain
saw, a whole bench of various power hand tools, a large wall of hand tools.
and other power and hand tools. I spend at least 12 hours a day in the shop
5days a week and average 8 hours a day on weekends. I make my living in the
shop and make all the small pieces of wood my self, have a collage degree in
Industrial Arts and am accreted by my state as a folk artist. Any other
comments on my credits?
"David Binkowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> This must come from a person who doesn't yet own a table saw.
>
> --
> The software said it ran under Windows 98/NT/2000, or better.
> So I installed it on Linux...
> "Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based
> on
> > the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you
> have
> > heard from other people.
> >
> > My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
> > pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
> > reason.
> >
> >
>
>
Make them my self
"SwampBug" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> wonder where he 'buys' all the small wood pieces he sands?
>
> --
> SwampBug
> ---------------------
> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "David Binkowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > This must come from a person who doesn't yet own a table saw.
> >
> > Sounds like it came from a person who only owns one tool - a belt
sander.
> >
> >
>
>
Yes
"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:06:06 -0500, "Sweet Sawdust"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
> >pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
> >reason.
> >
>
> You would consider a sander more dangerous than potential amputation
> via power saw? Not to mention kick back.
>
> Do you actually participate in the activity of woodworking?
>
> Barry
Amen!
"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> screwdriver, followed by hammer. So far I've got no injuries from power
> tools. Hope that streak runs forever.
>
> dave
>
> Sweet Sawdust wrote:
>
> > What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based
on
> > the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you
have
> > heard from other people.
> >
> > My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
> > pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
> > reason.
> >
> >
>
<s> that was the point i was trying to make. . .
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"Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Make them my self
> "SwampBug" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > wonder where he 'buys' all the small wood pieces he sands?
> >
> > --
> > SwampBug
> > ---------------------
> > "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > "David Binkowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > >
> > > > This must come from a person who doesn't yet own a table saw.
> > >
> > > Sounds like it came from a person who only owns one tool - a belt
> sander.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Chris Merrill <[email protected]> wrote:
>Phisherman wrote:
>> I drew more blood from chisels than anything else. I never got hurt
>> from my drill press, bandsaw, table saw, lathe, nor jointer. Maybe
>> the most dangerous tool is your brain, when it is not working
>> properly.
>
>Oooh...forgot about the chisels. They are right behind the hammer...
>and gaining quickly. I cut myself with a brand new chisel a few
>days ago getting it out of the packaging...glad nobody was watching :)
Scary Sharpening seems to take a bite out of me now and then. When
the finger gets too close to the sand paper it stops while that chisel
keeps on coming.
Wes
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The only tool that I have not received an injury from is: I can't think of
one that in all my time of wood working, metal working, repair work etc
that I have not received some sort of injury from, although very minor in
almost every case. A few cases from a faulty tool, a few because that was
the only way to use the tool and get the job done, and a lot from pure
carelessness, or improper tool use. Good question.
"EmbErna" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:ysK3b.298361$uu5.64805@sccrnsc04...
>
> Let's turn this question around a bit...
>
> "What in your opinion is the LEAST dangerous tool in your wood
> shop, based on the number and severity of injuries you have
> received, not on what you have heard from other people."
>
>
> Some folks who have NEVER been injured by their table saw
> might answer "table saw".
>
> I can only conclude that since a table saw can be the most
> dangerous AND also the least dangerous, the REAL danger in
> the shop is the USER.
>
> Think about it, the tools themselves are not dangerous, it's
> the person using the tool who adds the danger component. Use
> every tool with the utmost respect and safety and YOU will be
> the least dangerous tool in your shop!
>
> mjbrna
> ps. I agree that a table saw may have 'more potential' to injure
> when compared with other tools, but that wasn't the question.
>
> > Sweet Sawdust wrote:
> >
> >
> >>What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based
> >>on the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what
you
> >>have heard from other people.
> >
>
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:36:59 -0400, Silvan
<[email protected]> pixelated:
>I should definitely wear boots in the shop, but I have to wear boots
>professionally, and I tend to wear my comfortable shoes--sandals or
>mocasins--at home, logic be damned. Putting on my boots to go to the shop
>feels too much like work.
Lace up some steeltoed shoes for slip-on use and get
the benefit of both safety and convenient comfort.
Or you could always tack 1" medium-density strips of
foam to the top of your sandals, Sport.
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> "Most Dangerous" can be defined as the tool that is most likely to
> cause *any* injury, or as the tool most likely to cause the *most
> severe* injury. In the first category is the hammer, the second is
> represented by the TS.
>
> Tim Douglass
>
> http://www.DouglassClan.com
Good points, I agree the definition seems to be the tricky part with this
question. Maybe the question should be phrased either "most frequently
dangerous" or "most severly dangerous". I don't think you can really
compare answers to either of these together. It's like comparing crash
statistics between Volvo and Boeing. One has more, the other has more
severe.
david
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so why did he have grammar in quotes too.
BTW, "psssss" should have ended with a "t"
GOTCHA!
DAVE
Steve wrote:
> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>since you are the word police, let's get YOU caught up on proper
>>spelling: "alot" should have been "a lot".
>
>
>
> pssssss - that's why he had it in quotes.
>
>
"Tim Simmons" <[email protected]> writes:
> "Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>, Abe
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >In article <[email protected]>,
> > >[email protected] says...
> > >> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:02:12 -0500, "Sweet Sawdust"
> > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >I do own a...osculating sander.
[... doubtable story on scrotum injury ... ]
> Just because he submitted an article doesn't mean it happened and the
> timeframe (20-25 years later) is suspicious to me.
According to http://www.snopes.com/risque/penile/scrotum.htm soemthing
similar really happened...
back to on-topic: My worst injury fromm woodworking tools i got a few
weeks ago when i hacked 1/4 through the first joint of my left index
finger with a hatchet, but as the hatchet was really sharp and clean
the cut healed without more help than a band-aid (but there is a slight
bend now in the finger perpendicular to the usual bending plane)...
With power tools i have exerted enough care not to hurt myself.
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"Tim Simmons" <[email protected]> writes:
> "Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>, Abe
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >In article <[email protected]>,
> > >[email protected] says...
> > >> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:02:12 -0500, "Sweet Sawdust"
> > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >I do own a...osculating sander.
[... doubtable story on scrotum injury ... ]
> Just because he submitted an article doesn't mean it happened and the
> timeframe (20-25 years later) is suspicious to me.
According to http://www.snopes.com/risque/penile/scrotum.htm soemthing
similar really happened...
back to on-topic: My worst injury fromm woodworking tools i got a few
weeks ago when i hacked 1/4 through the first joint of my left index
finger with a hatchet, but as the hatched was really sharp and clean
the cut healed without more help than a band-aid (but the is a slight
bend now in the finger perpendicular to the usual bending plane)...
With power tools i have exerted enough care not to hurt myself.
--
Dr. Juergen Hannappel http://lisa2.physik.uni-bonn.de/~hannappe
mailto:[email protected] Phone: +49 228 73 2447 FAX ... 7869
Physikalisches Institut der Uni Bonn Nussallee 12, D-53115 Bonn, Germany
CERN: Phone: +412276 76461 Fax: ..77930 Bat. 892-R-A13 CH-1211 Geneve 23
D K Woods <[email protected]> writes:
> But I still think the potential for severe (not frequent) damage puts it
> among the safer tools...well, power tools at least. *I* don't have
> anything else with a 3/4 hp motor that safe, at least....
Then you've never been hit in the head by a 10lb piece of oak
travelling at 50mph.
Let's turn this question around a bit...
"What in your opinion is the LEAST dangerous tool in your wood
shop, based on the number and severity of injuries you have
received, not on what you have heard from other people."
Some folks who have NEVER been injured by their table saw
might answer "table saw".
I can only conclude that since a table saw can be the most
dangerous AND also the least dangerous, the REAL danger in
the shop is the USER.
Think about it, the tools themselves are not dangerous, it's
the person using the tool who adds the danger component. Use
every tool with the utmost respect and safety and YOU will be
the least dangerous tool in your shop!
mjbrna
ps. I agree that a table saw may have 'more potential' to injure
when compared with other tools, but that wasn't the question.
> Sweet Sawdust wrote:
>
>
>>What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based
>>on the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you
>>have heard from other people.
>
That's not what he asked. He is not interested in statistics.
"Tim Douglass" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:05:10 -0500, D K Woods
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> The statistics can be a bit misleading,
In many cases, I would have to say the nut that presses the power switch.
Pete
"Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What in your opinion is the most dangerous tool in your wood shop, based
on
> the number and severity of injuries you have received, not on what you
have
> heard from other people.
>
> My vote is first the stationary belt sander, Forever letting small wood
> pieces get away and scraping fingers, and second the drill press same
> reason.
>
>