Welp! Thanks to all for all the good advice!!
I just uploaded Plan B... What do you think about this one?
www.geocities.com/lexmark8792/fence.html
Changes:
Now support the divider on vertical braces fastened to the side of the wall
instead of the top - more stable, eliminates the grooviness and easier to
install.
The idea of using the solid 1/8-inch luaun piece is to eliminate the
peek-a-boo holes in the lattice. And it gives the other side a nice wood
appearance.
Fred
Fred wrote:
> Welp! Thanks to all for all the good advice!!
> I just uploaded Plan B... What do you think about this one?
>
> www.geocities.com/lexmark8792/fence.html
>
> Changes:
> Now support the divider on vertical braces fastened to the side of
> the wall instead of the top - more stable, eliminates the grooviness
> and easier to install.
>
> The idea of using the solid 1/8-inch luaun piece is to eliminate the
> peek-a-boo holes in the lattice. And it gives the other side a nice
> wood appearance.
1/8 luan? Ply? Exterior?
You still have the problem of areas that will catch and hold water...the
two horiziontal pieces shown fastened with anchor bolts especially the
top one. Additionally, the vertical space on the wall overlain with the
luan.
The retention of water does two things...it encourages rot of the wood
and water absorption by the block. The latter encourages mildew.
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Fred wrote:
> http://www.geocities.com/lexmark8792/fence.html
>
> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>> 1/8 luan? Ply? Exterior?
>
> I appreciate the help! I'm not that familiar with wood types, but
> "5.2" is what they call it -- just under 1/4-inch. Not plywood -
> solid. Looks like door skin material only they say it's made for
> outdoors. I thought it might look better than plywood.
5.2 millimeters. Never seen solid wood that size (available for
purchase). Where do you get it and what's its intendeed purpose?
Hmm...you said "they said it is *made* for outdoors". You sure it isn't
plywood?
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>> You still have the problem of areas that will catch and hold
>> water...the two horiziontal pieces shown fastened with anchor bolts
>> especially the top one. Additionally, the vertical space on the
>> wall overlain with the luan.
>>
>> The retention of water does two things...it encourages rot of the
>> wood and water absorption by the block. The latter encourages
>> mildew.
>
> I don't need mildew - that's for sure. How about if, before I tighten
> down the bolts at the bottom, I run a bead of silcone where the wall
> meets the back plate?
Whatever it takes to avoid water getting in and to let it drain if/when
it does. Less of a problem in your climate than most others.
> We don't get much rain - only 10-inches a year or so. And very dry -
> desert like climate.
>
> Fred
--
dadiOH
____________________________
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...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
Welp! Thanks to all for all the good advice!!
I just uploaded Plan B... What do you think about this one?
www.geocities.com/lexmark8792/fence.html
Changes:
Now support the divider on vertical braces fastened to the side of the wall
instead of the top - more stable, eliminates the grooviness and easier to
install.
The idea of using the solid 1/8-inch luaun piece is to eliminate the
peek-a-boo holes in the lattice. And it gives the other side a nice wood
appearance.
Fred
Personally....I think you went through more than you needed to...otherwise
it looks fine.
"Fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:5xPud.3859$lZ6.2628@trnddc02...
> Welp! Thanks to all for all the good advice!!
> I just uploaded Plan B... What do you think about this one?
>
> www.geocities.com/lexmark8792/fence.html
>
> Changes:
> Now support the divider on vertical braces fastened to the side of the
wall
> instead of the top - more stable, eliminates the grooviness and easier to
> install.
>
> The idea of using the solid 1/8-inch luaun piece is to eliminate the
> peek-a-boo holes in the lattice. And it gives the other side a nice wood
> appearance.
>
> Fred
>
>
http://www.geocities.com/lexmark8792/fence.html
"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> 1/8 luan? Ply? Exterior?
I appreciate the help! I'm not that familiar with wood types, but "5.2" is
what they call it -- just under 1/4-inch. Not plywood - solid. Looks like
door skin material only they say it's made for outdoors. I thought it might
look better than plywood.
> You still have the problem of areas that will catch and hold water...the
> two horiziontal pieces shown fastened with anchor bolts especially the
> top one. Additionally, the vertical space on the wall overlain with the
> luan.
>
> The retention of water does two things...it encourages rot of the wood
> and water absorption by the block. The latter encourages mildew.
I don't need mildew - that's for sure. How about if, before I tighten down
the bolts at the bottom, I run a bead of silcone where the wall meets the
back plate?
We don't get much rain - only 10-inches a year or so. And very dry - desert
like climate.
Fred
> --
> dadiOH
> ____________________________
>
> dadiOH's dandies v3.05...
> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
>
>
"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > I appreciate the help! I'm not that familiar with wood types, but
> > "5.2" is what they call it -- just under 1/4-inch. Not plywood -
> > solid. Looks like door skin material only they say it's made for
> > outdoors. I thought it might look better than plywood.
>
> 5.2 millimeters. Never seen solid wood that size (available for
> purchase). Where do you get it and what's its intendeed purpose?
>
> Hmm...you said "they said it is *made* for outdoors". You sure it isn't
> plywood?
I could be wrong about being solid -- it might be plywood -- will take a
closer look next time. I just did a quick search and found that Luaun is
imported from Philippines and SE Asia and used a lot for kayak and other
boat bottoms. Don't know why though. Both plywood and veneer are made - the
one I saw was solid 5.2mm thickness at Home Depot. It was $10.52 for a 4 x 8
sheet. The thickness is usually listed in millimeters.
"mikey" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:vOZud.748203
>
> Secondly, I think a solid slab of wood (luan) on top
> of a block wall will look a bit trashy. Like someone
> took an interorior door and laid it up there. I'd stick
> with the lattice work, even if there are peek-a-boo holes.
A good point - especially after a few months. I'll take another look. If
we use a solid wood on that side, we'll probably end up painting that side
white or something.
> Is a 7' fence allowed in your area? Some places I've lived
> have codes against fences over 6'.
"Permits are required when constructing any type of fencing (block wall,
wood, wrought iron) over 42" in height or if retaining over 2' of earth."
Amazing but true!! This is because (a) the state took the property tax
money
away from the cities and now this city has essentially no money. Also (b)
this fine city has been sued time after time for dishonest business
practices,
and they are about tapped out. In fact, several recent city officials are
now
under indictment. They now require permits (aka $$) for all kinds of teeny
tiny
work that most other cities would laugh at.
Now it's off to cut the grass -- hope the inspector doesn't come by and
give me a ticket!
Some info here:
http://www.ipmg.org/id6.html
Also, below is from http://www.homedepotsucks.com/reliefPaper.cfm
Also called luan, meranti or Philippine Mahogany, lauan is the term that is
now used to denote any tropical hardwood plywood. Actual lauan trees are
native to the former rainforests of the Philippines, but have become nearly
commercially extinct. Most tropical plywood now comes from the shrinking
(and burning) rainforests of Indonesia and Malaysia and is sometimes called
meranti. All tropical plywood may be composed any one or two of hundreds of
different species, all lumped into the same term, either lauan, meranti or
Philippine mahogany. These woods have no relation to mahogany at all (the
name was thought up by the US Forest Service to sell more plywood from the
Philippines). Tropical plywood is the most commonly imported tropical
hardwood, entering the U.S. as plywood sheets, veneers, door skins and
furniture. Plywood makes up 80% of U.S. tropical hardwood imports. Lauan or
meranti is poor- to medium-quality wood with a range of color from red to
near white.
Lauan is highly undervalued, as Asian logging firms have cleared through
millions of hectares of rainforest since the 1950s. Philippines, once the
largest exporter, is now over 80% deforested. Thailand, once a large
producer, is also 80% deforested. Malaysia and Indonesia, both recent top
exporters of tropical plywood, have each lost half their forests to logging
and consequent deforestation.
Indigenous peoples in each of these countries have attempted to stand in the
way of the slaughter of their forests, but to little avail. In Malaysia, the
army has beaten and arrested many indigenous Penan as they have attempted to
block the ravaging of their homelands by Japanese logging firms and the
Malaysian government.
In the Philippines, activists have been targeted for assassination by
illegal loggers seeking to cut the few remaining lauan trees on private
lands.
Undervalued and sold very cheaply, the real cost of lauan is extremely high.
Home Depot sells lauan plywood in the form of all-lauan plywood sheets of
varying thicknesses (in the L.A. store, from La Mirada DC/Taraga Pacific),
interior hollow-core doors, lauan-faced softwood plywood sheets (Roseburg
Forest Products), and paneling.
Home Depot sells solid lauan (or other related species of Southeast Asian
rainforest hardwoods in the Shorea group) as handles on wheelbarrows (True
Temper) and possibly pre-hung front doors (Main Door Corp., Gardena, CA)
(incorrectly marketed as "mahogany").
First off, what adverts? ;-)
Adverts are a thing of the past with Mozilla Firefox.
Secondly, I think a solid slab of wood (luan) on top
of a block wall will look a bit trashy. Like someone
took an interorior door and laid it up there. I'd stick
with the lattice work, even if there are peek-a-boo holes.
Is a 7' fence allowed in your area? Some places I've lived
have codes against fences over 6'.
mikey.
Fred wrote:
> Welp! Thanks to all for all the good advice!!
> I just uploaded Plan B... What do you think about this one?
>
> www.geocities.com/lexmark8792/fence.html
>
> Changes:
> Now support the divider on vertical braces fastened to the side of the wall
> instead of the top - more stable, eliminates the grooviness and easier to
> install.
>
> The idea of using the solid 1/8-inch luaun piece is to eliminate the
> peek-a-boo holes in the lattice. And it gives the other side a nice wood
> appearance.
>
> Fred
>
>