Hi Group, I'm starting to get back into woodturning and have a question
about face plates. I seem to remember from my junior high shop class (a
long,long time ago) that some of the face plates that were set up for
bowl turning had a piece of 3/4 plywood attached to them then a piece
of heavy paper glued on then the bowl blank was glued to that. My
question is was there any screws going into the bowl blank or is it
just held by the paper? BTW the lathe is an old Dunlap that I purchased
when I was in junior high and I've played with it off and on over the
years. I'm now retired and have more time and a real shop. Thanks, Jim
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On Jan 14, 9:16=A0pm, Old Guy <[email protected]> wrote:
> i used scrap hardwood rather than MDF or plywood, just cause its
> stronger.
Agree on both points. MDF can come apart, and plywood will (unless
built up thickness of baltic birch) forever be out of balance.
> BUT...I wasted two years working with face plates instead of buying a
> decent scroll chuck, and I regret it. =A0The scroll chuck with a wood
> worm screw is much more versitile, and lets me do all kinds of things
> that a face plate didn't. =A0(easy remounts, lidded bowls, adjusting
> natural edge bowls for balanced appearance, remounting to polish wax
> as some examples.)
I used metal face plates for a couple of years, then bought a VicMarc
scroll chuck. It literally changed everything about bowl/box style
turning. I started planning the turning projects around the chuck.
Then I bought more jaws... then I bought another chuck, too!
If you are reluctant to buy a chuck due to its price, check this out;
http://www.theturnersshop.com/turning/h6267/h6267-1.html
A lot of guys are using them, and with a quick tune up they seem to be
an excellent buy.
As always, just my 0.02
Robert
Jim,
That's the way I learned to do faceplate turning too, and it does
work.
i used scrap hardwood rather than MDF or plywood, just cause its
stronger.
BUT...I wasted two years working with face plates instead of buying a
decent scroll chuck, and I regret it. The scroll chuck with a wood
worm screw is much more versitile, and lets me do all kinds of things
that a face plate didn't. (easy remounts, lidded bowls, adjusting
natural edge bowls for balanced appearance, remounting to polish wax
as some examples.)
I've launced a few bowls from glue block mountings, and from the
chuck--keeping them on the lathe is more a matter of how you cut than
the mounting method.
Yeah, a scroll chuck is expensive, but think of all the money you are
saving using the old lathe!
Old Guy
On Jan 14, 5:38=A0pm, "James" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Group, I'm starting to get back into woodturning and have a question
> about face plates. I seem to remember from my junior high shop class (a
> long,long time ago) that some of the face plates that were set up for
> bowl turning had a piece of 3/4 plywood attached to them then a piece
> of heavy paper glued on then the bowl blank was glued to that. My
> question is was there any screws going into the bowl blank or is it
> just held by the paper? BTW the lathe is an old Dunlap that I purchased
> when I was in junior high and I've played with it off and on over the
> years. I'm now retired and have more time and a real shop. Thanks, Jim
> --
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:38:27 -0600, "James"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Hi Group, I'm starting to get back into woodturning and have a question
>about face plates. I seem to remember from my junior high shop class (a
>long,long time ago) that some of the face plates that were set up for
>bowl turning had a piece of 3/4 plywood attached to them then a piece
>of heavy paper glued on then the bowl blank was glued to that. My
>question is was there any screws going into the bowl blank or is it
>just held by the paper? BTW the lathe is an old Dunlap that I purchased
>when I was in junior high and I've played with it off and on over the
>years. I'm now retired and have more time and a real shop. Thanks, Jim
Just the paper. This technique is used in other woodworking
applications to secure the piece temporarily. Without the paper
intercourse there is a glue joint.
On Jan 14, 4:38 pm, "James" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Group, I'm starting to get back into woodturning and have a question
> about face plates. I seem to remember from my junior high shop class (a
> long,long time ago) that some of the face plates that were set up for
> bowl turning had a piece of 3/4 plywood attached to them then a piece
> of heavy paper glued on then the bowl blank was glued to that. My
> question is was there any screws going into the bowl blank or is it
> just held by the paper? BTW the lathe is an old Dunlap that I purchased
> when I was in junior high and I've played with it off and on over the
> years. I'm now retired and have more time and a real shop. Thanks, Jim
> --
Yep, just held by the paper. Glue_ both_ sides of the paper, one side
to the workpiece, the other side to a chunk of scrap that is screwed
to the faceplate. To separate, split the paper in two with a sharp
chisel. Caveat: Sometimes, noting the grain direction of your
workpiece when separating can help get a clean break. Tom
On Jan 14, 10:16 pm, Old Guy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jim,
>
> That's the way I learned to do faceplate turning too, and it does
> work.
>
> i used scrap hardwood rather than MDF or plywood, just cause its
> stronger.
>
> BUT...I wasted two years working with face plates instead of buying a
> decent scroll chuck, and I regret it. The scroll chuck with a wood
> worm screw is much more versitile, and lets me do all kinds of things
> that a face plate didn't.
Tried that, but my lathe doesn't have a spindle lock. Couldn't get it
all the way on with one hand. And then when I turned it around and
tried to use a forstner the bit wasn't happy about the hole in the
center. Didn't go too well for me and the woodworm.
-Kevin
James wrote:
> Hi Group, I'm starting to get back into woodturning and have a question
> about face plates. I seem to remember from my junior high shop class (a
> long,long time ago) that some of the face plates that were set up for
> bowl turning had a piece of 3/4 plywood attached to them then a piece
> of heavy paper glued on then the bowl blank was glued to that. My
> question is was there any screws going into the bowl blank or is it
> just held by the paper? BTW the lathe is an old Dunlap that I purchased
> when I was in junior high and I've played with it off and on over the
> years. I'm now retired and have more time and a real shop. Thanks, Jim
Just the paper, I believe.
It's there to keep the glue joint from being permanent.
I've done the same thing without the paper, but using mdf on the
faceplate. You can pry the mdf off and sand down to the bowl (or in my
case, a drum shell). I suppose I could've used paper, too, to make it
easier.
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--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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Old Guy wrote:
> i used scrap hardwood rather than MDF or plywood, just cause its
> stronger.
>
Are you worried about strength when making a connection purposely weak?
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-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
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Old Guy wrote:
> Jim,
>
> That's the way I learned to do faceplate turning too, and it does
> work.
>
> i used scrap hardwood rather than MDF or plywood, just cause its
> stronger.
>
> BUT...I wasted two years working with face plates instead of buying a
> decent scroll chuck, and I regret it. The scroll chuck with a wood
> worm screw is much more versitile, and lets me do all kinds of things
> that a face plate didn't. (easy remounts, lidded bowls, adjusting
> natural edge bowls for balanced appearance, remounting to polish wax
> as some examples.)
>
> I've launced a few bowls from glue block mountings, and from the
> chuck--keeping them on the lathe is more a matter of how you cut than
> the mounting method.
>
> Yeah, a scroll chuck is expensive, but think of all the money you are
> saving using the old lathe!
>
> Old Guy
>
>
>
> On Jan 14, 5:38 pm, "James" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Group, I'm starting to get back into woodturning and have a
> > question about face plates. I seem to remember from my junior high
> > shop class (a long,long time ago) that some of the face plates that
> > were set up for bowl turning had a piece of 3/4 plywood attached to
> > them then a piece of heavy paper glued on then the bowl blank was
> > glued to that. My question is was there any screws going into the
> > bowl blank or is it just held by the paper? BTW the lathe is an old
> > Dunlap that I purchased when I was in junior high and I've played
> > with it off and on over the years. I'm now retired and have more
> > time and a real shop. Thanks, Jim
> > --
That's one of the things I'm watching for. The lathe has a 3/4 X 16
thread but I've found a place where I can get a 3/4- 16 to 1 X 8
adaptor so that will give me some more choices. Jim
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