I used the oil-based original Kilz to block some water damage to my
popcorn textured ceiling. Then I repainted with a flat finish ceiling
paint but the area where I used the Kilz is very glossy whilst the
rest is flat (as it was supposed to be). Anyone got any ideas about
how to proceed to flatten the gloss? I'll redo the ceiling if I have
to but I don't want a glossy ceiling.
Agkistrodon
"EL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Popcorn, or any other texture, is used to cover up the poor quality of
> the job done by the dry wall contractor. A good contractor can produce
> a smooth flat surface. A lousy one uses pop corn, or some other texture
> to hide his mistakes.
Um perhaps but also to add a little texture to a boring ceiling and to add a
bit of sound absorption.
"Agkistrodon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
...
> Anyone got any ideas about
> how to proceed to flatten the gloss? I'll redo the ceiling if I have
> to but I don't want a glossy ceiling.
Step one: get rid of the popcorn.
Put Kilz on the damaged spot if needed, then paint the entire ceiling with a
good ceiling paint and it will look much better and cleaner.
Ed
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http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
In article <[email protected]>,
EL <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>Popcorn, or any other texture, is used to cover up the poor quality of
>the job done by the dry wall contractor. A good contractor can produce
>a smooth flat surface. A lousy one uses pop corn, or some other texture
>to hide his mistakes.
Popcorn may also have been used for 'acoustical' reasons.
It does wonders to cut down on 'echo', "boxiness", in a room with hard
floors, not alot of furniture, and 'resonant' dimensions.
Popcorn on the ceiling is actually better at this than carpet on the floor.
When I lived in Tucson I had a painter do my popcorn ceilings.
As I watched him scrape off the stained popcorn I asked him
why he just didn't seal it with Kilz. He told me that Kilz would
seal the pores in the popcorn and the final texture of the paint
would never match the unsealed stuff. I guess he was right.
He shot new popcorn where the stained stuff had been and the
final painted result was undetectable from the old popcorn areas.
You may need to scrape, re-popcorn, and repaint your offending
areas to get the match you want.
Art
"Agkistrodon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I used the oil-based original Kilz to block some water damage to my
> popcorn textured ceiling. Then I repainted with a flat finish ceiling
> paint but the area where I used the Kilz is very glossy whilst the
> rest is flat (as it was supposed to be). Anyone got any ideas about
> how to proceed to flatten the gloss? I'll redo the ceiling if I have
> to but I don't want a glossy ceiling.
>
> Agkistrodon
"EL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Popcorn, or any other texture, is used to cover up the poor quality of
> the job done by the dry wall contractor. A good contractor can produce
> a smooth flat surface. A lousy one uses pop corn, or some other texture
> to hide his mistakes.
My ceilings were perfect under the popcorn. YMMV A few nicks from scraping
had to be spackled in the first room, then we got better at removing it. I
have no idea why people like the stuff. It is very difficult to paint. The
only benefit is that it will diffuse harsh light. They even had that crap
in our kitchen and the dining room with crown molding.
Ed Pawlowski responds:
>My ceilings were perfect under the popcorn. YMMV A few nicks from scraping
>had to be spackled in the first room, then we got better at removing it. I
>have no idea why people like the stuff. It is very difficult to paint. The
>only benefit is that it will diffuse harsh light. They even had that crap
>in our kitchen and the dining room with crown molding.
Hey, a lot of the time, they turn up the taste knob and add glitter.
Charlie Self
"I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use
our power the greater it will be." Thomas Jefferson
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Hey, a lot of the time, they turn up the taste knob and add glitter.
I find the glitter very hard to paint and not cover up.. ;~)
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 03:28:07 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>My ceilings were perfect under the popcorn.
You're lucky. My experience has shown that popcorn is usually used to
save the labor cost of the later coats of mud. One coat with the
tape, poof with the popcorn machine, and on to the next job.
If the money is spent to get a great surface, spending even more on
popcorn is a waste.
Barry
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 02:30:41 GMT, EL <[email protected]> wrote:
> A lousy one uses pop corn, or some other texture
>to hide his mistakes.
Or a contractor hired by a cheap general contractor.
I know top-notch drywall guys who also do popcorn, just like my local
liquor store sells microbrews and Pabst. You payz your money... <G>
Barry
Popcorn, or any other texture, is used to cover up the poor quality of
the job done by the dry wall contractor. A good contractor can produce
a smooth flat surface. A lousy one uses pop corn, or some other texture
to hide his mistakes.
B
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Agkistrodon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Anyone got any ideas about
>>how to proceed to flatten the gloss? I'll redo the ceiling if I have
>>to but I don't want a glossy ceiling.
>
>
> Step one: get rid of the popcorn.
>
> Put Kilz on the damaged spot if needed, then paint the entire ceiling with a
> good ceiling paint and it will look much better and cleaner.
> Ed
> [email protected]
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>
>
>
On 16 Nov 2003 13:52:21 -0800, [email protected]
(Agkistrodon) brought forth from the murky depths:
>I used the oil-based original Kilz to block some water damage to my
>popcorn textured ceiling. Then I repainted with a flat finish ceiling
>paint but the area where I used the Kilz is very glossy whilst the
>rest is flat (as it was supposed to be). Anyone got any ideas about
>how to proceed to flatten the gloss? I'll redo the ceiling if I have
>to but I don't want a glossy ceiling.
Continue covering it with flat ceiling paint like you
did the rest of it.
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