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18/07/2011 3:24 PM

Cutting deep dados

Building a workbench. Plans call for a dado (4 of them) to
hold cross braces at the ends. The dado cut is to be
1 1/2 inches deep by 3 inches wide. My 6 inch dado
with the adjustable dial (Freud) can only cut 1 inch deep
or less.

Suggestions?

Thought of the following solutions but hope there might
be others:

1) use regular sawblade and make the cuts (tedious as the
dados have to be 3 inches wide), by going back and
forth over the length of the cut.

2) use a router

3) use the Freud dado and use a router for
the last 1/2 inch.

4) chop them out - saw and chisel - ala mortise/tenon.

5) buy a 8" dado set. Expensive for a good set. I'd like
to see if there is a $50 solution first.

- How about it? Is there a good way of doing this?

MJ


This topic has 13 replies

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RicodJour

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/07/2011 3:24 PM

18/07/2011 9:48 PM

On Jul 18, 6:24=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Building a workbench. Plans call for a dado (4 of them) to
> hold cross braces at the ends. The dado cut is to be
> 1 1/2 inches deep by 3 inches wide. My 6 inch dado
> with the adjustable dial (Freud) can only cut 1 inch deep
> or less.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thought of the following solutions but hope there might
> be others:
>
> 1) use regular sawblade and make the cuts (tedious as the
> dados have to be 3 inches wide), by going back and
> forth over the length of the cut.
>
> 2) use a router
>
> 3) use the Freud dado and use a router for
> the last 1/2 inch.
>
> 4) chop them out - saw and chisel - ala mortise/tenon.
>
> 5) buy a 8" dado set. Expensive for a good set. I'd like
> to see if there is a $50 solution first.
>
> - How about it? Is there a good way of doing this?

Depending on the dimensions of the cross braces, cut them down the
extra half inch. That will give the cross brace a shoulder.

R

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/07/2011 3:24 PM

19/07/2011 12:52 AM

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in news:d4a62711-075e-
[email protected]:

*snip*

>
> 5) buy a 8" dado set. Expensive for a good set. I'd like
> to see if there is a $50 solution first.
>
> - How about it? Is there a good way of doing this?
>
> MJ

How about doubling that budget? A decent stack dado set runs around $100.

Another option is to cut both pieces instead of just one. (Notch the
support and the leg.)

Puckdropper

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/07/2011 3:24 PM

18/07/2011 6:05 PM

RE: Subject

Hog out the majority of the material with 6 TPI, saber saw then clean
up dado with a 10", 24T, flat top, rip blade.

Lew

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/07/2011 3:24 PM

18/07/2011 6:44 PM

On Jul 18, 6:24=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Building a workbench. Plans call for a dado (4 of them) to
> hold cross braces at the ends. The dado cut is to be
> 1 1/2 inches deep by 3 inches wide. My 6 inch dado
> with the adjustable dial (Freud) can only cut 1 inch deep
> or less.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thought of the following solutions but hope there might
> be others:
>
> 1) use regular sawblade and make the cuts (tedious as the
> dados have to be 3 inches wide), by going back and
> forth over the length of the cut.
>
> 2) use a router
>
> 3) use the Freud dado and use a router for
> the last 1/2 inch.
>
> 4) chop them out - saw and chisel - ala mortise/tenon.
>
> 5) buy a 8" dado set. Expensive for a good set. I'd like
> to see if there is a $50 solution first.
>
> - How about it? Is there a good way of doing this?
>
> MJ

A 1" dado will be enough anyway. Forget about the 1/2 frikkin' inch.
Make the piece that is to go into it a half (1/2") shorter fur
cryinoutloudalready.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/07/2011 3:24 PM

18/07/2011 5:12 PM

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:26:23 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 7/18/2011 5:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> Building a workbench. Plans call for a dado (4 of them) to
>> hold cross braces at the ends. The dado cut is to be
>> 1 1/2 inches deep by 3 inches wide. My 6 inch dado
>> with the adjustable dial (Freud) can only cut 1 inch deep
>> or less.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>> Thought of the following solutions but hope there might
>> be others:
>>
>> 1) use regular sawblade and make the cuts (tedious as the
>> dados have to be 3 inches wide), by going back and
>> forth over the length of the cut.
>>
>> 2) use a router
>>
>> 3) use the Freud dado and use a router for
>> the last 1/2 inch.
>>
>> 4) chop them out - saw and chisel - ala mortise/tenon.
>>
>> 5) buy a 8" dado set. Expensive for a good set. I'd like
>> to see if there is a $50 solution first.
>>
>> - How about it? Is there a good way of doing this?
>
>Is this going to be a 2x4 work bench?

If he only goes 1" on the dadoes, it's going to have a catastrophic
failure the very first time he builds a battleship on it.

--
One word frees us of all the weight and pain of life: That word is love.
-- Sophocles

GR

Gerald Ross

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/07/2011 3:24 PM

18/07/2011 6:46 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> Building a workbench. Plans call for a dado (4 of them) to
> hold cross braces at the ends. The dado cut is to be
> 1 1/2 inches deep by 3 inches wide. My 6 inch dado
> with the adjustable dial (Freud) can only cut 1 inch deep
> or less.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thought of the following solutions but hope there might
> be others:
>
> 1) use regular sawblade and make the cuts (tedious as the
> dados have to be 3 inches wide), by going back and
> forth over the length of the cut.
>
> 2) use a router
>
> 3) use the Freud dado and use a router for
> the last 1/2 inch.
>
> 4) chop them out - saw and chisel - ala mortise/tenon.
>
> 5) buy a 8" dado set. Expensive for a good set. I'd like
> to see if there is a $50 solution first.
>
> - How about it? Is there a good way of doing this?
>
> MJ

What I have done in a similar situation is to use the table saw. An
accurate cut on each side then multiple cuts in between approximately
1/4 to 1/3 inches apart. Break out the strips with a chisel then
level the bottom with a chisel. Quick and cheap. Or quick and dirty.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

Taxes still too low? Vote democrat in 2012.




Ms

MJ

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/07/2011 3:24 PM

19/07/2011 3:34 PM


> A 1" dado will be enough anyway. Forget about the 1/2 frikkin' inch.
> Make the piece that is to go into it a half (1/2") shorter fur
> cryinoutloudalready.


I tend to be AR (anal retentive) on plans, but your suggestion
is the best one. I can do a quick mockup and try this
out.

Thanks,

MJ

Ll

Leon

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/07/2011 3:24 PM

18/07/2011 6:26 PM

On 7/18/2011 5:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> Building a workbench. Plans call for a dado (4 of them) to
> hold cross braces at the ends. The dado cut is to be
> 1 1/2 inches deep by 3 inches wide. My 6 inch dado
> with the adjustable dial (Freud) can only cut 1 inch deep
> or less.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thought of the following solutions but hope there might
> be others:
>
> 1) use regular sawblade and make the cuts (tedious as the
> dados have to be 3 inches wide), by going back and
> forth over the length of the cut.
>
> 2) use a router
>
> 3) use the Freud dado and use a router for
> the last 1/2 inch.
>
> 4) chop them out - saw and chisel - ala mortise/tenon.
>
> 5) buy a 8" dado set. Expensive for a good set. I'd like
> to see if there is a $50 solution first.
>
> - How about it? Is there a good way of doing this?
>
> MJ


Is this going to be a 2x4 work bench?

lL

[email protected] (Larry W)

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/07/2011 3:24 PM

19/07/2011 12:03 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>Building a workbench. Plans call for a dado (4 of them) to
>hold cross braces at the ends. The dado cut is to be
>1 1/2 inches deep by 3 inches wide. My 6 inch dado
>with the adjustable dial (Freud) can only cut 1 inch deep
>or less.
>
>Suggestions?
>
>Thought of the following solutions but hope there might
>be others:
>
>1) use regular sawblade and make the cuts (tedious as the
>dados have to be 3 inches wide), by going back and
>forth over the length of the cut.
>
>2) use a router
>
>3) use the Freud dado and use a router for
>the last 1/2 inch.
>
>4) chop them out - saw and chisel - ala mortise/tenon.
>
>5) buy a 8" dado set. Expensive for a good set. I'd like
>to see if there is a $50 solution first.
>
>- How about it? Is there a good way of doing this?
>
>MJ

Only 4 dadoes? Even if they're 3 inches wide, if the workpiece is of a
size that can be more or less easily manipulated on a tablesaw, you can
cut them all out with regular blade in less time than it takes to set
up a router.


--
Better to be stuck up in a tree than tied to one.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar.org

kk

k-nuttle

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/07/2011 3:24 PM

18/07/2011 9:05 PM

On 7/18/2011 8:12 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:26:23 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/18/2011 5:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> Building a workbench. Plans call for a dado (4 of them) to
>>> hold cross braces at the ends. The dado cut is to be
>>> 1 1/2 inches deep by 3 inches wide. My 6 inch dado
>>> with the adjustable dial (Freud) can only cut 1 inch deep
>>> or less.
>>>
>>> Suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thought of the following solutions but hope there might
>>> be others:
>>>
>>> 1) use regular sawblade and make the cuts (tedious as the
>>> dados have to be 3 inches wide), by going back and
>>> forth over the length of the cut.
>>>
>>> 2) use a router
>>>
>>> 3) use the Freud dado and use a router for
>>> the last 1/2 inch.
>>>
>>> 4) chop them out - saw and chisel - ala mortise/tenon.
>>>
>>> 5) buy a 8" dado set. Expensive for a good set. I'd like
>>> to see if there is a $50 solution first.
>>>
>>> - How about it? Is there a good way of doing this?
>>
>> Is this going to be a 2x4 work bench?
>
> If he only goes 1" on the dadoes, it's going to have a catastrophic
> failure the very first time he builds a battleship on it.
>
> --
> One word frees us of all the weight and pain of life: That word is love.
> -- Sophocles

I built a workbench out of 2X4. It has a piece of 2' X 4' plywood for
the top, dado into a 2 X 4 half lapped frame.

Where I was concerned about strenght, I cut the 1/2" dados into both
pieced of the 2X4 joint. This gave me an inch overlap for the joint.
For reference it is on wheels and is the exact height of my table saw,
so it can be used as an outfeed for the saw.

I glued and screwed all joints.

I made the it about 15 years old, and still as stable as the day I
finished it.

One other thing, I varished it, instead of painting as my brothers
thought I should do. It has darkened in that time but looks as good as
it did when I finished it.

One other thing, I used good hard rubbe wheels. But over the years,
they have developed flat spots. from the tools that I keep on the two
shelves, and the end cabinets. If I was to re wheel or build an new
bench, I would use steel wheels or ones with minimum rubber tire on steel.

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/07/2011 3:24 PM

19/07/2011 7:14 AM

Robatoy wrote:
> On Jul 18, 6:24 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Building a workbench. Plans call for a dado (4 of them) to
>> hold cross braces at the ends. The dado cut is to be
>> 1 1/2 inches deep by 3 inches wide. My 6 inch dado
>> with the adjustable dial (Freud) can only cut 1 inch deep
>> or less.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>> Thought of the following solutions but hope there might
>> be others:
>>
>> 1) use regular sawblade and make the cuts (tedious as the
>> dados have to be 3 inches wide), by going back and
>> forth over the length of the cut.
>>
>> 2) use a router
>>
>> 3) use the Freud dado and use a router for
>> the last 1/2 inch.
>>
>> 4) chop them out - saw and chisel - ala mortise/tenon.
>>
>> 5) buy a 8" dado set. Expensive for a good set. I'd like
>> to see if there is a $50 solution first.
>>
>> - How about it? Is there a good way of doing this?
>>
>> MJ
>
> A 1" dado will be enough anyway. Forget about the 1/2 frikkin' inch.
> Make the piece that is to go into it a half (1/2") shorter fur
> cryinoutloudalready.


You just have to make things simple, don't you? :)

--

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"Twayne"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/07/2011 3:24 PM

23/07/2011 11:39 AM

In news:[email protected],
Larry W <[email protected]> typed:
> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Building a workbench. Plans call for a dado (4 of them)
>> to hold cross braces at the ends. The dado cut is to be
>> 1 1/2 inches deep by 3 inches wide. My 6 inch dado
>> with the adjustable dial (Freud) can only cut 1 inch deep
>> or less.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>> Thought of the following solutions but hope there might
>> be others:
>>
>> 1) use regular sawblade and make the cuts (tedious as the
>> dados have to be 3 inches wide), by going back and
>> forth over the length of the cut.
>>
>> 2) use a router
>>
>> 3) use the Freud dado and use a router for
>> the last 1/2 inch.
>>
>> 4) chop them out - saw and chisel - ala mortise/tenon.
>>
>> 5) buy a 8" dado set. Expensive for a good set. I'd like
>> to see if there is a $50 solution first.
>>
>> - How about it? Is there a good way of doing this?
>>
>> MJ
>
> Only 4 dadoes? Even if they're 3 inches wide, if the
> workpiece is of a
> size that can be more or less easily manipulated on a
> tablesaw, you can
> cut them all out with regular blade in less time than it
> takes to set
> up a router.

Agreed: Even if it required making a sled with holders to slide it thru the
table saw. Sleds are extremely handy and with the right configuation, almost
a turn-key solution. Only one caveat: It's best of the saw table has
T-slots.

Tn

"Twayne"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 18/07/2011 3:24 PM

23/07/2011 11:41 AM

In news:[email protected],
[email protected] <[email protected]> typed:
> Building a workbench. Plans call for a dado (4 of them) to
> hold cross braces at the ends. The dado cut is to be
> 1 1/2 inches deep by 3 inches wide. My 6 inch dado
> with the adjustable dial (Freud) can only cut 1 inch deep
> or less.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thought of the following solutions but hope there might
> be others:
>
> 1) use regular sawblade and make the cuts (tedious as the
> dados have to be 3 inches wide), by going back and
> forth over the length of the cut.
>
> 2) use a router
>
> 3) use the Freud dado and use a router for
> the last 1/2 inch.
>
> 4) chop them out - saw and chisel - ala mortise/tenon.
>
> 5) buy a 8" dado set. Expensive for a good set. I'd like
> to see if there is a $50 solution first.
>
> - How about it? Is there a good way of doing this?
>
> MJ

Possibly: Make it two pieces. Glue & screw once you route the dado into each
piece.



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