I am (very slowly and deliberately) building a new router table from corian.
It is reasonable to rout a Tslot into the corian, rather than putting in an
aluminum track?
Perhaps the corian is too tough to rout like that, or maybe it is not strong
enough to work properly.
The router bits are $35, so it is not something I can experiment with.
>Gluing on a slab of lead would be ideal. Depleted uranium?
Not unless you want to deal with a material that catches fire in air at
room temperature. Its OK in large blocks but if you get slivers of it
it catches fire.
Oh and you have all the usual heavy metal poisoning issues plus
residual radioactivity.
Now a nice lump of iron on the other hand...
What's wrong with 2 or 3 pieces of 3/4 MDF laminated together (cover
with plastic laminate if you wish). Plenty thick to drop in the deepest
track you can find. dimensionally stable. Not to pricey. Will Corian
have a more distinct "buzz" from the router running than several layers
of MDF? Just wondering.
Dave
David wrote:
> Right! "why SHOULD our tools be as nice..."
>
> Dave
>
> toller wrote:
>
>>> He doesn't want functional; he wants "elegant". :)
>>>
>>
>> Come on now; I want it elegant, but only if it is also functional.
>> That ought to make sense to a woodworker; why should our tools be as
>> nice as our products?
>>
"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What's wrong with 2 or 3 pieces of 3/4 MDF laminated together (cover with
> plastic laminate if you wish). Plenty thick to drop in the deepest track
> you can find. dimensionally stable. Not to pricey. Will Corian have a
> more distinct "buzz" from the router running than several layers of MDF?
> Just wondering.
I will let you know in a while.
>
> Dave
>
> David wrote:
>
>> Right! "why SHOULD our tools be as nice..."
You don't like nice tools?!?! Then you are the first.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> toller wrote:
>>
>>>> He doesn't want functional; he wants "elegant". :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Come on now; I want it elegant, but only if it is also functional. That
>>> ought to make sense to a woodworker; why should our tools be as nice as
>>> our products?
>>>
Sure I do. But I don't go to great lengths to have a museum quality
piece of furniture in the shop. The tools in the shop are to assist me
in making furniture, etc. The shop is not just the means to an end.
Doesn't mean I don't like nice tools though! :)
Dave
toller wrote:
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>What's wrong with 2 or 3 pieces of 3/4 MDF laminated together (cover with
>>plastic laminate if you wish). Plenty thick to drop in the deepest track
>>you can find. dimensionally stable. Not to pricey. Will Corian have a
>>more distinct "buzz" from the router running than several layers of MDF?
>>Just wondering.
>
>
> I will let you know in a while.
>
>>Dave
>>
>>David wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Right! "why SHOULD our tools be as nice..."
>
>
> You don't like nice tools?!?! Then you are the first.
>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>toller wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>He doesn't want functional; he wants "elegant". :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Come on now; I want it elegant, but only if it is also functional. That
>>>>ought to make sense to a woodworker; why should our tools be as nice as
>>>>our products?
>>>>
>
>
>
So you are telling me my instinct is correct; Corian router top = NOISY
router station.
Dave
Robatoy wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> David <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>What's wrong with 2 or 3 pieces of 3/4 MDF laminated together (cover
>>with plastic laminate if you wish). Plenty thick to drop in the deepest
>>track you can find. dimensionally stable. Not to pricey. Will Corian
>>have a more distinct "buzz" from the router running than several layers
>>of MDF? Just wondering.
>
>
> hey ! Hey! *jumping up and down*.."I can answer that!!"
>
> Acrylic solid surfacing has a much higher 'Q' than MDF.
> It will make a much better sound-board than MDF...
> MDF will 'deaden' the sound more, due to its mass as well as its
> 'lossy-ness'.
> IOW..Corian can actually make the sound appear louder at certain
> frequencies than MDF.
>
> A church bell hanging from a rope has a high 'Q'
> A rubber bag full of turds hanging from a rope has a low 'Q'.
>
> One goes 'DING'... the other goes 'Thud'
>
> That was today's lesson in psycho-acoustics.
>
> Contents of this post may have settled after posting.
toller wrote:
> I am (very slowly and deliberately) building a new router table from
> corian. It is reasonable to rout a Tslot into the corian, rather than
> putting in an aluminum track?
> Perhaps the corian is too tough to rout like that,
Corian? Tough? hehehe
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> or maybe it is not
> strong enough to work properly.
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"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:design-
> >
> I have solid surface router table top. VERY noisy. Your instincts are
> correct. The motor and the table-top literally turn into a transducer.
> Stiffening the table top with bracing just jacks up the frequency to a
> higher resonance.
Anyone have any comments on this a Lee Valley Tools metal router table top?
I've had it in my wishlist for awhile, but may rethink it if it's going to
jack up the noise level. Of course I could wear hearing protection, but
there's always the urge to forgo it when there's a quick job to do.
"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:QaIpe.24807
> > corian. It is reasonable to rout a Tslot into the corian, rather than
> > putting in an aluminum track?
> > Perhaps the corian is too tough to rout like that,
>
> Corian? Tough? hehehe
Well, I suppose he could rout it and if (or when) it breaks, dado over the
broken part and then add his t-track.
On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 16:06:39 GMT, "toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am (very slowly and deliberately) building a new router table from corian.
>It is reasonable to rout a Tslot into the corian, rather than putting in an
>aluminum track?
>Perhaps the corian is too tough to rout like that, or maybe it is not strong
>enough to work properly.
>The router bits are $35, so it is not something I can experiment with.
>
unless you are doubling up the corian i would think the remaining
material would be too thin and probly crack. what i did with mine was
make the top from 3 peices and spaces em out to form 2 slots. I rarely
use them opting to use a sled for operatons requiring a miter guage. i
wasnt concerned about making a t-slot because at the time my miter
guage did not require it. YMMV. i used 3/4 " stock mounted to the sub
structure for the spacing and used plastic laminate to build it up to
the depth i needed for my miter guage. the PL made it slide quite
nicely. i can post some pics if ya like. [ if i can find em ] lol...
skeez
In article <[email protected]>,
David <[email protected]> wrote:
> What's wrong with 2 or 3 pieces of 3/4 MDF laminated together (cover
> with plastic laminate if you wish). Plenty thick to drop in the deepest
> track you can find. dimensionally stable. Not to pricey. Will Corian
> have a more distinct "buzz" from the router running than several layers
> of MDF? Just wondering.
hey ! Hey! *jumping up and down*.."I can answer that!!"
Acrylic solid surfacing has a much higher 'Q' than MDF.
It will make a much better sound-board than MDF...
MDF will 'deaden' the sound more, due to its mass as well as its
'lossy-ness'.
IOW..Corian can actually make the sound appear louder at certain
frequencies than MDF.
A church bell hanging from a rope has a high 'Q'
A rubber bag full of turds hanging from a rope has a low 'Q'.
One goes 'DING'... the other goes 'Thud'
That was today's lesson in psycho-acoustics.
Contents of this post may have settled after posting.
In article <[email protected]>,
David <[email protected]> wrote:
> So you are telling me my instinct is correct; Corian router top = NOISY
> router station.
>
I have solid surface router table top. VERY noisy. Your instincts are
correct. The motor and the table-top literally turn into a transducer.
Stiffening the table top with bracing just jacks up the frequency to a
higher resonance. Gluing on a slab of lead would be ideal. Depleted
uranium? *G*
I siliconed a pad of bitumuous mastic onto the bottom of my table-top.
That helped a lot. A dry-wall sandwich will help too.
At the auto-wreckers they will let you rip chunks of the sound deadening
material off old cars. Anything heavy and spongy will dampen noise. The
emphasis is on mass. Acoustic energy will kill itself on mass. Fluffy
stuff like fibreglass helps reduce reflected sound with minimal result,
but we're after transmitted sound.
In article <[email protected]>,
"toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am (very slowly and deliberately) building a new router table from corian.
> It is reasonable to rout a Tslot into the corian, rather than putting in an
> aluminum track?
> Perhaps the corian is too tough to rout like that, or maybe it is not strong
> enough to work properly.
> The router bits are $35, so it is not something I can experiment with.
Even if you double the thickness to 1" to compensate for the material
you are routing away, the top lip of the t-slot would be too
thin/fragile to be serviceable. Sink in an aluminum track with some
epoxy.
He doesn't want functional; he wants "elegant". :)
Dave
Upscale wrote:
> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:QaIpe.24807
>
>>>corian. It is reasonable to rout a Tslot into the corian, rather than
>>>putting in an aluminum track?
>>>Perhaps the corian is too tough to rout like that,
>>
>>Corian? Tough? hehehe
>
>
> Well, I suppose he could rout it and if (or when) it breaks, dado over the
> broken part and then add his t-track.
>
>
>
Hmmm...not thick enough for an insert, but thick enough for routing a
T-track right into the Corian? What's the difference in total depth?
Dave
toller wrote:
>>If the bit is THAT pricy, why not just epoxy the T-track into the corian?
>>
>
> Two reasons; the corian really isn't thick enough to support an insert, and
> routing it directly would be so darn elegant (if it is practical).
>
>
He's putting his router table in the kitchen.
"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What's wrong with 2 or 3 pieces of 3/4 MDF laminated together (cover
> with plastic laminate if you wish). Plenty thick to drop in the deepest
> track you can find. dimensionally stable. Not to pricey. Will Corian
> have a more distinct "buzz" from the router running than several layers
If the bit is THAT pricy, why not just epoxy the T-track into the corian?
Dave
toller wrote:
> I am (very slowly and deliberately) building a new router table from corian.
> It is reasonable to rout a Tslot into the corian, rather than putting in an
> aluminum track?
> Perhaps the corian is too tough to rout like that, or maybe it is not strong
> enough to work properly.
> The router bits are $35, so it is not something I can experiment with.
>
>
We have one at work. Not the Lee Valley but simular. It is LOUD. In any
case, why would someone intentionaly buy a router table with a warp? There
explanation is BS.
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:design-
> > >
> > I have solid surface router table top. VERY noisy. Your instincts are
> > correct. The motor and the table-top literally turn into a transducer.
> > Stiffening the table top with bracing just jacks up the frequency to a
> > higher resonance.
>
> Anyone have any comments on this a Lee Valley Tools metal router table
top?
> I've had it in my wishlist for awhile, but may rethink it if it's going to
> jack up the noise level. Of course I could wear hearing protection, but
> there's always the urge to forgo it when there's a quick job to do.
>
>