On Oct 12, 12:49=A0pm, "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Which is the harder wood?
>
> --
> Paul
Google says...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janka_hardness_test
Red Oak is supposedly harder than North American Black Walnut (the
typical type of walnut for woodworking).
Woodworkers will tell you Walnut is harder to work with than Red Oak
in terms of how it feels to drill or edge shape. I think hardness is
determined by how deep a dent is made by a specific weight spherical
ball dropped from a certain distance. So walnut dents deeper but it
feels harder to work (IMNSHO)
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:06:41 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]>
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>On Oct 13, 1:52 am, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Paul wrote:
>> > Which is the harder wood?
>>
>> The red oak. And white oak is harder than it. And hickory is harder than
>> the white oak. Why?
>>
>
>>I guess some guys are just worried about how hard their wood is.
>
>Well I definitely prefer to have a hard wood... at the appropriate time.
Which reminded me of this joke:
Once upon a time, a little boy was born without a penis. (hey, no girl
jokes here, OK?) His parents went to doctors all over but nothing
could be done. Later, around the boy's 17th birthday, a doctor called
his mother and told them that technology had progressed enough to do a
replacement surgery. They tested the whole male side of the family
and found them to be compatible. The boy's brother, grandfather, and
father could all donate parts of their penises. The surgery went well
and the boy healed nicely. About a year later, the boy visited the
doctor with downcast eyes. When the doctor asked what was wrong, the
boy exclaimed "The dick works OK until I'm with a girl, Doc. Why in
the hell did you have to put Grandpa's section in the _middle_?
</rimshot>
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On Oct 13, 1:52 am, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Paul wrote:
> > Which is the harder wood?
>
> The red oak. And white oak is harder than it. And hickory is harder than
> the white oak. Why?
>
>I guess some guys are just worried about how hard their wood is.
Well I definitely prefer to have a hard wood... at the appropriate time.
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:24:58 -0700 (PDT), "SonomaProducts.com"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Oct 13, 1:52 am, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Paul wrote:
>> > Which is the harder wood?
>>
>> The red oak. And white oak is harder than it. And hickory is harder than
>> the white oak. Why?
>>
>
>I guess some guys are just worried about how hard their wood is.
Well it's got to be harder than the piece of ash.
On Oct 12, 1:12=A0pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Oct 12, 12:49=A0pm, "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Which is the harder wood?
>
> > --
> > Paul
>
> Google says...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janka_hardness_test
>
> Red Oak is supposedly harder than North American Black Walnut (the
> typical type of walnut for woodworking).
>
> Woodworkers will tell you Walnut is harder to work with than Red Oak
> in terms of how it feels to drill or edge shape. I think hardness is
> determined by how deep a dent is made by a specific weight spherical
> ball dropped from a certain distance. So walnut dents deeper but it
> feels harder to work (IMNSHO)
ok, i read the wiki and it is not just a dent from a distance drop, it
is how much force to embed the ball half way. Kind of cool actually.
On Oct 13, 1:52=A0am, "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Paul wrote:
> > Which is the harder wood?
>
> The red oak. =A0And white oak is harder than it. =A0And hickory is harder=
than
> the white oak. =A0Why?
>
I guess some guys are just worried about how hard their wood is.
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>On Oct 12, 12:49=A0pm, "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Which is the harder wood?
>>
>> --
>> Paul
>
>Google says...
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janka_hardness_test
>
>Red Oak is supposedly harder than North American Black Walnut (the
>typical type of walnut for woodworking).
>
>Woodworkers will tell you Walnut is harder to work with than Red Oak
>in terms of how it feels to drill or edge shape. I think hardness is
>determined by how deep a dent is made by a specific weight spherical
>ball dropped from a certain distance. So walnut dents deeper but it
>feels harder to work (IMNSHO)
>
>Woodworkers will tell you Walnut is harder to work with than Red Oak
>in terms of how it feels to drill or edge shape. I think hardness is
>determined by how deep a dent is made by a specific weight spherical
>ball dropped from a certain distance. So walnut dents deeper but it
>feels harder to work (IMNSHO)
I find walnut to be much easier to work than Oak. Amost as nice as
Mahagony. Unfortunately, not as inexpensive. Where I'm at, Claro
is more accessible (and prettier).
scott
On Oct 12, 3:49=A0pm, "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Which is the harder wood?
>
> --
> Paul
Dunno 'bout hardness, but red oak is tougher,
harder to snap.
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:49:58 -0700, "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Which is the harder wood?
Red Oak. American Walnut isn't all that hard.
http://tinytimbers.com/pdf/chart_janka.pdf
(the table can be expanded)
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 04:52:39 -0400, "dadiOH" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Paul wrote:
>> Which is the harder wood?
>
>The red oak. And white oak is harder than it. And hickory is harder than
>the white oak. Why?
Pride. Hickory is proud to be used for hammah handles. ;)
Or maybe it just works out with wood hardeners on the side.
I think the reason is the difference in the cellular structure of the
wood. Seek Hoadley for enlightenment. http://goo.gl/h0XYU
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On 10/12/2011 2:49 PM, Paul wrote:
> Which is the harder wood?
Pretty similar and I don't have table at hand to look it up (and google
would work as easily there as here :) ).
I'd guess the oak probably is slightly harder on average; both work very
nicely and leave a crisp edge w/ _sharp_ tools but are hard enough that
anything less is a pain for sure.
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> On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:49:58 -0700, "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Which is the harder wood?
>
> Red Oak. American Walnut isn't all that hard.
>
> http://tinytimbers.com/pdf/chart_janka.pdf
> (the table can be expanded)
Paul wrote:
> Which is the harder wood?
The red oak. And white oak is harder than it. And hickory is harder than
the white oak. Why?
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Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 04:52:39 -0400, "dadiOH" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Paul wrote:
>>> Which is the harder wood?
>>
>> The red oak. And white oak is harder than it. And hickory is
>> harder than the white oak. Why?
>
> Pride. Hickory is proud to be used for hammah handles. ;)
> Or maybe it just works out with wood hardeners on the side.
>
> I think the reason is the difference in the cellular structure of the
> wood. Seek Hoadley for enlightenment. http://goo.gl/h0XYU
Thank you but I meant why did he want to know, not why is one wood is harder
than another.
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On 10/14/11 11:47 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>
>> Woodworkers will tell you Walnut is harder to work with than Red Oak
>> in terms of how it feels to drill or edge shape. I think hardness is
>> determined by how deep a dent is made by a specific weight spherical
>> ball dropped from a certain distance. So walnut dents deeper but it
>> feels harder to work (IMNSHO)
>
>
> I find walnut to be much easier to work than Oak. Amost as nice as
> Mahagony. Unfortunately, not as inexpensive. Where I'm at, Claro
> is more accessible (and prettier).
>
> scott
Walnut is a joy to work with. Cuts smooth as butter, doesn't splinter
like oak. While they both have a deeper grain than other hardwoods,
Walnut's is more uniform.
To me, it's a no-brainer between Walnut and any Oak.
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