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"David F. Eisan"

06/08/2006 10:32 PM

Took a Sawzall to my Ash Table :( w/pics

Hello everyone,

Today was not a good day in the shop.

I was going to do the final glue up on my table today. I stood one sub
assembly of legs on my bench and was about to dry fit the long aprons with
the drawer runner into the legs. This is what it looked like,

Notice how the skirt is a little narrow....

http://www.federatedtool.com/david/img/screwedupashtable1.jpg

Opps, looks like I measured between the legs for the drawer runners whereas
I should have slipped the long aprons into the tennons and measured between
those for the length of the drawer runner.

Hmmmm.... What to do.

Sawzall time!

http://www.federatedtool.com/david/img/screwedupashtable2.jpg

http://www.federatedtool.com/david/img/screwedupashtable3.jpg

Hack out the runners with the sawzall. Since the runners were attached to
the long aprons with double biscuits, it wasn't hard to chisel apart the
joint and pare it flush to the apron.

I have it all cleaned up and now I have to remake the parts I cut out, 'cept
this time, a little longer ;).

Oh well,

David

Every neighbourhood has one, in mine I'm him.


This topic has 9 replies

Do

"Duke of Burl"

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 06/08/2006 10:32 PM

07/08/2006 4:30 AM


David F. Eisan wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Today was not a good day in the shop.
>


Well David, I see that the beer-fridge is still the most used tool in
your shop...

Td

"Teamcasa"

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 06/08/2006 10:32 PM

08/08/2006 12:02 PM

> David F. Eisan wrote:
>
>> Today was not a good day in the shop.
>> Opps, looks like I measured between the legs for the drawer runners
>> whereas I should have slipped the long aprons into the tennons and
>> measured between those for the length of the drawer runner.
>> Sawzall time!

> J Clarke
> For future reference, whenever possible dry-assemble the piece before
> gluing. That way if something is screwed up you'll find it when it's
> still
> relatively easy to fix.
>
> --John

The old adage that applies here is "Measure twice ..." However for me, its
the sit and think about it before I cut once.

John's advise of dry fitting is always practiced in my projects.

Dave



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"foggytown"

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 06/08/2006 10:32 PM

09/08/2006 4:38 AM


Teamcasa wrote:
> > David F. Eisan wrote:
> >
> >> Today was not a good day in the shop.
> >> Opps, looks like I measured between the legs for the drawer runners
> >> whereas I should have slipped the long aprons into the tennons and
> >> measured between those for the length of the drawer runner.
> >> Sawzall time!
>
> > J Clarke
> > For future reference, whenever possible dry-assemble the piece before
> > gluing. That way if something is screwed up you'll find it when it's
> > still
> > relatively easy to fix.
> >
> > --John
>
> The old adage that applies here is "Measure twice ..." However for me, its
> the sit and think about it before I cut once.
>
> John's advise of dry fitting is always practiced in my projects.
>
> Dave
>

Nah! I adhere strictly to the wrecker's primary law. "Cut to shape
and pound to fit!"


FoggyTown

Td

"Teamcasa"

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 06/08/2006 10:32 PM

09/08/2006 11:10 AM

>>Teamcasa
>> The old adage that applies here is "Measure twice ..." However for me,
>> its
>> the sit and think about it before I cut once.
>>
>> John's advise of dry fitting is always practiced in my projects.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
>"foggytown"
> Nah! I adhere strictly to the wrecker's primary law. "Cut to shape
> and pound to fit!"
>
>
> FoggyTown
>

What if its bigger than the little than bottom af the top?

Dave




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Sz

"Stoutman"

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 06/08/2006 10:32 PM

07/08/2006 2:57 AM

> Today was not a good day in the shop.

<SNIP>

I'm not sure why you glued the runners to the long aprons before glueing the
aprons to the legs?

I actually don't glue in the drawer runners until the entire table is
finished and I know the runners are aligned properly. I even made a table
where the drawer runners were never glued down, they float in a groove in
the back and on a half lap on the front.

I used the same runner assemble for this table:

http://www.garagewoodworks.com/pictures/DCP00615_web.jpg

All three of those drawer runners are not glued in at this point. Tongue
and groove in the back and half lap in the front. Once the drawer was
assembled the runners were 'built up' and adjusted for a snug fit with the
drawer.

This approach will never get you in your current situation.

--
Stoutman
http://www.garagewoodworks.com

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 06/08/2006 10:32 PM

07/08/2006 1:34 PM


"David F. Eisan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello everyone,
>
> Today was not a good day in the shop.

Snippage of carnage. ;~)

Well 20/20 hind site is always better. Like Stoutman indicated, perhaps the
pieces you cut out should have been put in last after all the aprons were
properly fitted and glued into place.

Dave, whets up with your dust collector? LOL

Sz

"Stoutman"

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 06/08/2006 10:32 PM

07/08/2006 3:01 AM

Here is the finished table if you're interested:

http://www.garagewoodworks.com/maple_hall_table.htm

--
Stoutman
http://www.garagewoodworks.com

RP

"R. Pierce Butler"

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 06/08/2006 10:32 PM

07/08/2006 3:33 AM

"David F. Eisan" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Today was not a good day in the shop.
>
> I was going to do the final glue up on my table today. I stood one sub
> assembly of legs on my bench and was about to dry fit the long aprons
> with the drawer runner into the legs. This is what it looked like,
>
> Notice how the skirt is a little narrow....
>
> http://www.federatedtool.com/david/img/screwedupashtable1.jpg
>
> Opps, looks like I measured between the legs for the drawer runners
> whereas I should have slipped the long aprons into the tennons and
> measured between those for the length of the drawer runner.
>
> Hmmmm.... What to do.
>
> Sawzall time!
>
> http://www.federatedtool.com/david/img/screwedupashtable2.jpg
>
> http://www.federatedtool.com/david/img/screwedupashtable3.jpg
>
> Hack out the runners with the sawzall. Since the runners were attached
> to the long aprons with double biscuits, it wasn't hard to chisel apart
> the joint and pare it flush to the apron.
>
> I have it all cleaned up and now I have to remake the parts I cut out,
> 'cept this time, a little longer ;).
>
> Oh well,
>
> David
>
> Every neighbourhood has one, in mine I'm him.
>
>

You need a large lateral file cabinet for your hand held power tools.

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "David F. Eisan" on 06/08/2006 10:32 PM

07/08/2006 1:19 PM

David F. Eisan wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Today was not a good day in the shop.
>
> I was going to do the final glue up on my table today. I stood one sub
> assembly of legs on my bench and was about to dry fit the long aprons with
> the drawer runner into the legs. This is what it looked like,
>
> Notice how the skirt is a little narrow....
>
> http://www.federatedtool.com/david/img/screwedupashtable1.jpg
>
> Opps, looks like I measured between the legs for the drawer runners
> whereas I should have slipped the long aprons into the tennons and
> measured between those for the length of the drawer runner.
>
> Hmmmm.... What to do.
>
> Sawzall time!
>
> http://www.federatedtool.com/david/img/screwedupashtable2.jpg
>
> http://www.federatedtool.com/david/img/screwedupashtable3.jpg
>
> Hack out the runners with the sawzall. Since the runners were attached to
> the long aprons with double biscuits, it wasn't hard to chisel apart the
> joint and pare it flush to the apron.
>
> I have it all cleaned up and now I have to remake the parts I cut out,
> 'cept this time, a little longer ;).

For future reference, whenever possible dry-assemble the piece before
gluing. That way if something is screwed up you'll find it when it's still
relatively easy to fix.

> Oh well,
>
> David
>
> Every neighbourhood has one, in mine I'm him.

--
--John
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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)


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