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Mark Leininger

28/06/2004 10:05 AM

Market for old Craftsman Table Saw

Is there any marketplace for an old Craftsman table saw other than ebay?

I have one from about 1955 that I inherited and have used for years.
I've been planning to upgrade and the motor seems to have burned out
over the weekend, so the time has come. I wouldn't call it an antique,
but I'm wondering if there are any forums to sell these old saws to
people who are interested in rebuilding them or using them for parts or
something.
Thanks for any info


This topic has 17 replies

Rr

"RonB"

in reply to Mark Leininger on 28/06/2004 10:05 AM

29/06/2004 2:12 PM

Dave - I am trying to dispose of a 70's vintage Craftsman TS myself and the
router table idea crossed my mind. My first thought was the insert
shape/size did not seem workable. Could you describe, in general, how you
did the conversion? Does it require machining?

Any Pics?

Ron Brogan

"TeamCasa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> You could always junk eveything but the cast iron top and convert it into
a
> router table. I did this for my brother and it works very nicely.
>
> Dave
>
> "Mark Leininger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Is there any marketplace for an old Craftsman table saw other than ebay?
> >
> > I have one from about 1955 that I inherited and have used for years.
> > I've been planning to upgrade and the motor seems to have burned out
> > over the weekend, so the time has come. I wouldn't call it an antique,
> > but I'm wondering if there are any forums to sell these old saws to
> > people who are interested in rebuilding them or using them for parts or
> > something.
> > Thanks for any info
>
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[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Mark Leininger on 28/06/2004 10:05 AM

28/06/2004 3:22 PM

Mark Leininger asks:

>Is there any marketplace for an old Craftsman table saw other than ebay?
>
>I have one from about 1955 that I inherited and have used for years.
>I've been planning to upgrade and the motor seems to have burned out
>over the weekend, so the time has come. I wouldn't call it an antique,
>but I'm wondering if there are any forums to sell these old saws to
>people who are interested in rebuilding them or using them for parts or
>something.

If you find one, let me know. I've got a good friend who has 3 old Craftsman
saws he'd like to sell to make space, but so far all offers have been below the
value of the motors...IIRC, he has put new or newer motors on 2 of them. I
think he plans to keep the '29 patent, with the engine turned panel, but
otherwise, a couple sales will make him smile.

Charlie Self
"It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended from
man."
H. L. Mencken


Td

"TeamCasa"

in reply to Mark Leininger on 28/06/2004 10:05 AM

28/06/2004 11:25 AM

You could always junk eveything but the cast iron top and convert it into a
router table. I did this for my brother and it works very nicely.

Dave

"Mark Leininger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Is there any marketplace for an old Craftsman table saw other than ebay?
>
> I have one from about 1955 that I inherited and have used for years.
> I've been planning to upgrade and the motor seems to have burned out
> over the weekend, so the time has come. I wouldn't call it an antique,
> but I'm wondering if there are any forums to sell these old saws to
> people who are interested in rebuilding them or using them for parts or
> something.
> Thanks for any info



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"TeamCasa"

in reply to Mark Leininger on 28/06/2004 10:05 AM

29/06/2004 3:57 PM

Ron, Yes, there is a small amount of machining involved. I had a local
machine shop cut a hole in the top so a router Mast-R-Lift (Rockler) would
drop in. Some additional support was added underneath by using some 2"x1/4"
aluminum angle. Attached the top to a homemade stand and wha-la! The whole
project, minus the cost of the Mast-R-Lift, was under a $100.00. I'll ask
my brother to take some pictures and email them to me.

Dave



"RonB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Dave - I am trying to dispose of a 70's vintage Craftsman TS myself and
the
> router table idea crossed my mind. My first thought was the insert
> shape/size did not seem workable. Could you describe, in general, how you
> did the conversion? Does it require machining?
>
> Any Pics?
>
> Ron Brogan
>
> "TeamCasa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > You could always junk eveything but the cast iron top and convert it
into
> a
> > router table. I did this for my brother and it works very nicely.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Mark Leininger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Is there any marketplace for an old Craftsman table saw other than
ebay?
> > >
> > > I have one from about 1955 that I inherited and have used for years.
> > > I've been planning to upgrade and the motor seems to have burned out
> > > over the weekend, so the time has come. I wouldn't call it an antique,
> > > but I'm wondering if there are any forums to sell these old saws to
> > > people who are interested in rebuilding them or using them for parts
or
> > > something.
> > > Thanks for any info
> >
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slipslidinaway

in reply to Mark Leininger on 28/06/2004 10:05 AM

28/06/2004 8:24 PM

On 28 Jun 2004 15:22:26 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:

>Mark Leininger asks:
>
>>Is there any marketplace for an old Craftsman table saw other than ebay?
>>
>>I have one from about 1955 that I inherited and have used for years.
>>I've been planning to upgrade and the motor seems to have burned out
>>over the weekend, so the time has come. I wouldn't call it an antique,
>>but I'm wondering if there are any forums to sell these old saws to
>>people who are interested in rebuilding them or using them for parts or
>>something.
>
>If you find one, let me know. I've got a good friend who has 3 old Craftsman
>saws he'd like to sell to make space, but so far all offers have been below the
>value of the motors...IIRC, he has put new or newer motors on 2 of them. I
>think he plans to keep the '29 patent, with the engine turned panel, but
>otherwise, a couple sales will make him smile.
>
>Charlie Self
>"It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended from
>man."
>H. L. Mencken
>
>

Forgive my ignorance but what would these saws sell for?

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to slipslidinaway on 28/06/2004 8:24 PM

29/06/2004 9:08 AM

slipslidinaway asks:

>>If you find one, let me know. I've got a good friend who has 3 old Craftsman
>>saws he'd like to sell to make space, but so far all offers have been below
>the
>>value of the motors...IIRC, he has put new or newer motors on 2 of them. I
>>think he plans to keep the '29 patent, with the engine turned panel, but
>>otherwise, a couple sales will make him smile.
>>
>>Charlie Self
>>"It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended from
>>man."
>>H. L. Mencken
>>
>>
>
>Forgive my ignorance but what would these saws sell for?

Well, see, that's the problem. They won't sell for $75, which is the offer, and
no one will offer $150 or $175, which is, I think, what he wants.

Charlie Self
"It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended from
man."
H. L. Mencken


LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to slipslidinaway on 28/06/2004 8:24 PM

29/06/2004 12:11 PM

On 29 Jun 2004 09:08:24 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
calmly ranted:

>slipslidinaway asks:

>>Forgive my ignorance but what would these saws sell for?
>
>Well, see, that's the problem. They won't sell for $75, which is the offer, and
>no one will offer $150 or $175, which is, I think, what he wants.

Remind him that the prices paid for all his equipment, supplies,
and their maintenance are "sunk costs". He'll never get that price
back out of them, so any money he makes selling them is pure profit.

A used motor isn't worth the price of a new one, either.

And a Crapsman, by any other name, would still stink as sweet.


LJ, who buys cheap and sells elevated whenever possible.


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cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Larry Jaques on 29/06/2004 12:11 PM

29/06/2004 7:19 PM

Larry Jaques writes:

>>slipslidinaway asks:
>
>>>Forgive my ignorance but what would these saws sell for?
>>
>>Well, see, that's the problem. They won't sell for $75, which is the offer,
>and
>>no one will offer $150 or $175, which is, I think, what he wants.
>
>Remind him that the prices paid for all his equipment, supplies,
>and their maintenance are "sunk costs". He'll never get that price
>back out of them, so any money he makes selling them is pure profit.
>
>A used motor isn't worth the price of a new one, either.
>
>And a Crapsman, by any other name, would still stink as sweet.
>
>
>LJ, who buys cheap and sells elevated whenever possible.
>

I'm not about to remind him. When I have something for sale, I hand it to him
to sell. He invariably gets more for it than I can. He may have to keep the
saws around longer than you or I would like, but eventually he'll get his price
or very close to it. As far as motors go, when you pay $100 for a used motor,
it is not automatically worth $50 afterwards.

He can wait. He doesn't like to wait.

Charlie Self
"It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended from
man."
H. L. Mencken


BS

"Bob Schmall"

in reply to Mark Leininger on 28/06/2004 10:05 AM

28/06/2004 4:04 PM

Mark:
Google on "Old woodworking machines" Our very own Keith Bohn (UnisawA100) is
into this heavily, so you could also ping him through this newsgroup.

Bob Schmall

"Mark Leininger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is there any marketplace for an old Craftsman table saw other than ebay?
>
> I have one from about 1955 that I inherited and have used for years.
> I've been planning to upgrade and the motor seems to have burned out
> over the weekend, so the time has come. I wouldn't call it an antique,
> but I'm wondering if there are any forums to sell these old saws to
> people who are interested in rebuilding them or using them for parts or
> something.
> Thanks for any info

pp

patriarch <[email protected]>

in reply to Mark Leininger on 28/06/2004 10:05 AM

28/06/2004 8:15 PM

Mark Leininger <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> Is there any marketplace for an old Craftsman table saw other than ebay?
>
<snippage>

Check in your area for a woodworkers club, or an adult education-type
program. There are often folks associated with them, looking for machines
they can rebuild, upgrade, or get into inexpensively.

The thing to remember is that the competition, pricewise, is with the
shiny, new, probably much less hassle, maybe not as well made, new machines
sold at Sears or the BORG. What you want to find is someone who
appreciates how they used to be made, and is willing to spend some time on
putting one back together better than new.

Those folks are out there, but they are relatively scarce. Once you find
one, they often turn out to be good friends to have around.

Patriarch

Rr

"RonB"

in reply to Mark Leininger on 28/06/2004 10:05 AM

30/06/2004 10:17 AM

Yes - and remember if you give it to a school or non-profit, it can be used
as a donation at tax time.

.....let's see a thirty year old Craftsman table saw should be worth around
$12,000?


"patriarch [email protected]>" <<patriarch> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mark Leininger <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
> > Is there any marketplace for an old Craftsman table saw other than ebay?
> >
> <snippage>
>
> Check in your area for a woodworkers club, or an adult education-type
> program. There are often folks associated with them, looking for machines
> they can rebuild, upgrade, or get into inexpensively.
>
> The thing to remember is that the competition, pricewise, is with the
> shiny, new, probably much less hassle, maybe not as well made, new
machines
> sold at Sears or the BORG. What you want to find is someone who
> appreciates how they used to be made, and is willing to spend some time on
> putting one back together better than new.
>
> Those folks are out there, but they are relatively scarce. Once you find
> one, they often turn out to be good friends to have around.
>
> Patriarch

wv

in reply to Mark Leininger on 28/06/2004 10:05 AM

29/06/2004 7:59 AM

Mark Leininger <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Is there any marketplace for an old Craftsman table saw other than ebay?
>
> I have one from about 1955 that I inherited and have used for years.
> I've been planning to upgrade and the motor seems to have burned out
> over the weekend, so the time has come. I wouldn't call it an antique,
> but I'm wondering if there are any forums to sell these old saws to
> people who are interested in rebuilding them or using them for parts or
> something.
> Thanks for any info

My 60's Sears saw motor quite a while back, just hummed, I took it to
an electric motor shop and they blew the dust out of the contacts and
it has worked fine ever since. Have you checked the contacts? They
might have a used motor for cheap.
Scott

wv

in reply to Mark Leininger on 28/06/2004 10:05 AM

29/06/2004 7:59 AM

Mark Leininger <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Is there any marketplace for an old Craftsman table saw other than ebay?
>
> I have one from about 1955 that I inherited and have used for years.
> I've been planning to upgrade and the motor seems to have burned out
> over the weekend, so the time has come. I wouldn't call it an antique,
> but I'm wondering if there are any forums to sell these old saws to
> people who are interested in rebuilding them or using them for parts or
> something.
> Thanks for any info

My 60's Sears saw motor quite a while back, just hummed, I took it to
an electric motor shop and they blew the dust out of the contacts and
it has worked fine ever since. Have you checked the contacts? They
might have a used motor for cheap.
Scott

BB

Bannerstone

in reply to Mark Leininger on 28/06/2004 10:05 AM

28/06/2004 12:24 PM

There's a classified section on oldwwmachines.com, if not the whole saw maybe
parts like the table extensions would be in demand.

David


In article <[email protected]>, Mark Leininger says...
>
>Is there any marketplace for an old Craftsman table saw other than ebay?
>
>I have one from about 1955 that I inherited and have used for years.
>I've been planning to upgrade and the motor seems to have burned out
>over the weekend, so the time has come. I wouldn't call it an antique,
>but I'm wondering if there are any forums to sell these old saws to
>people who are interested in rebuilding them or using them for parts or
>something.
>Thanks for any info

WB

"Wood Butcher"

in reply to Mark Leininger on 28/06/2004 10:05 AM

29/06/2004 1:43 AM

I sold mine last weekend for $90 and was quite happy to get that.

Art

"slipslidinaway" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 28 Jun 2004 15:22:26 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
> wrote:
>
> >Mark Leininger asks:
> >
> >>Is there any marketplace for an old Craftsman table saw other than ebay?
> >>
> >>I have one from about 1955 that I inherited and have used for years.
> >>I've been planning to upgrade and the motor seems to have burned out
> >>over the weekend, so the time has come. I wouldn't call it an antique,
> >>but I'm wondering if there are any forums to sell these old saws to
> >>people who are interested in rebuilding them or using them for parts or
> >>something.
> >
> >If you find one, let me know. I've got a good friend who has 3 old Craftsman
> >saws he'd like to sell to make space, but so far all offers have been below the
> >value of the motors...IIRC, he has put new or newer motors on 2 of them. I
> >think he plans to keep the '29 patent, with the engine turned panel, but
> >otherwise, a couple sales will make him smile.
> >
> >Charlie Self
> >"It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended from
> >man."
> >H. L. Mencken
> >
> >
>
> Forgive my ignorance but what would these saws sell for?

Rr

"RonB"

in reply to Mark Leininger on 28/06/2004 10:05 AM

29/06/2004 8:33 PM

Thanks - I replaced my old Craftsman a couple of years ago with a cabinet
saw and put it in storage. Thought my son would want it and he got a better
offer. Even with a bad motor, I kinda hate to pitch it.

"TeamCasa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ron, Yes, there is a small amount of machining involved. I had a local
> machine shop cut a hole in the top so a router Mast-R-Lift (Rockler) would
> drop in. Some additional support was added underneath by using some
2"x1/4"
> aluminum angle. Attached the top to a homemade stand and wha-la! The
whole
> project, minus the cost of the Mast-R-Lift, was under a $100.00. I'll ask
> my brother to take some pictures and email them to me.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> "RonB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:0bjEc.22201$rn1.10111@okepread07...
> > Dave - I am trying to dispose of a 70's vintage Craftsman TS myself and
> the
> > router table idea crossed my mind. My first thought was the insert
> > shape/size did not seem workable. Could you describe, in general, how
you
> > did the conversion? Does it require machining?
> >
> > Any Pics?
> >
> > Ron Brogan
> >
> > "TeamCasa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > You could always junk eveything but the cast iron top and convert it
> into
> > a
> > > router table. I did this for my brother and it works very nicely.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > "Mark Leininger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Is there any marketplace for an old Craftsman table saw other than
> ebay?
> > > >
> > > > I have one from about 1955 that I inherited and have used for years.
> > > > I've been planning to upgrade and the motor seems to have burned out
> > > > over the weekend, so the time has come. I wouldn't call it an
antique,
> > > > but I'm wondering if there are any forums to sell these old saws to
> > > > people who are interested in rebuilding them or using them for parts
> or
> > > > something.
> > > > Thanks for any info
> > >
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"Wilson"

in reply to Mark Leininger on 28/06/2004 10:05 AM

28/06/2004 8:49 PM

Also check for people into dollhouses. An old saw and a washing machine
motor will do anything they need.
Wilson
"Mark Leininger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is there any marketplace for an old Craftsman table saw other than ebay?
>
> I have one from about 1955 that I inherited and have used for years.
> I've been planning to upgrade and the motor seems to have burned out
> over the weekend, so the time has come. I wouldn't call it an antique,
> but I'm wondering if there are any forums to sell these old saws to
> people who are interested in rebuilding them or using them for parts or
> something.
> Thanks for any info


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