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[email protected] (Bill Dotte)

23/07/2003 11:35 PM

Moisture marks on furniture

Just received a beatiful cherry end table, but top has water marks and some
others.

Nedd info on removing to restore to original beauty.

Bill Carroll


This topic has 6 replies

JG

"Jeff Gorman"

in reply to [email protected] (Bill Dotte) on 23/07/2003 11:35 PM

24/07/2003 8:04 AM


"Bill Dotte" <[email protected]> wrote

: Just received a beatiful cherry end table, but top has water marks and
some
: others.
:
: Nedd info on removing to restore to original beauty.

In the 'Hints & Tips' section of my web site is some information that might
be useful.

Jeff G

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UA

Uncle Al

in reply to [email protected] (Bill Dotte) on 23/07/2003 11:35 PM

24/07/2003 5:27 PM

dave martin wrote:
>
> I not questioning the claim that peanut butter or petroleum jelly
> might remove white water blush stains from furniture finishes but
> don't understand how they might function chemically.
>
> I thought that such watermarks were the result of microscopic globs of
> water suspended in the finish & removing them involves "sucking the
> water out" by means of a dessicant (like alcohol or diatomaceous
> earth.)
>
> How then would petroleum jelly or peanut butter work? Aren't they both
> already saturated with water?
>
> "Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > Don't know about the "some others" but if you are talking about the white
> > blush rings one gets from setting down damp things on a finish you can get
> > rid of them by putting some petroleum jelly or peanut butter over then marks
> > and let it sit. Alcohol wipes also works but it can sometimes be iffy in
> > regards to the finish, so you may want to try it on an unobtrusive location
> > first if you do try it..

The white marks are probably air spaces remaining after water swells
and debonds the coating. The oil/grease fills the holes with a medium
more closely matching the refractive index of the coating, and the
light scattering diminishes. Emeralds are "oiled" to lessen visible
cracks. Frosted glass unfrosts with a bit of nose grease.

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MG

"Mike G"

in reply to [email protected] (Bill Dotte) on 23/07/2003 11:35 PM

24/07/2003 10:28 AM

Don't know about the "some others" but if you are talking about the white
blush rings one gets from setting down damp things on a finish you can get
rid of them by putting some petroleum jelly or peanut butter over then marks
and let it sit. Alcohol wipes also works but it can sometimes be iffy in
regards to the finish, so you may want to try it on an unobtrusive location
first if you do try it..

--
Mike G.
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Bill Dotte" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just received a beatiful cherry end table, but top has water marks and
some
> others.
>
> Nedd info on removing to restore to original beauty.
>
> Bill Carroll

dd

[email protected] (dave martin)

in reply to [email protected] (Bill Dotte) on 23/07/2003 11:35 PM

24/07/2003 5:03 PM

I not questioning the claim that peanut butter or petroleum jelly
might remove white water blush stains from furniture finishes but
don't understand how they might function chemically.

I thought that such watermarks were the result of microscopic globs of
water suspended in the finish & removing them involves "sucking the
water out" by means of a dessicant (like alcohol or diatomaceous
earth.)

How then would petroleum jelly or peanut butter work? Aren't they both
already saturated with water?


"Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Don't know about the "some others" but if you are talking about the white
> blush rings one gets from setting down damp things on a finish you can get
> rid of them by putting some petroleum jelly or peanut butter over then marks
> and let it sit. Alcohol wipes also works but it can sometimes be iffy in
> regards to the finish, so you may want to try it on an unobtrusive location
> first if you do try it..
>
> --
> Mike G.
> Heirloom Woods
> www.heirloom-woods.net
> "Bill Dotte" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Just received a beatiful cherry end table, but top has water marks and
> some
> > others.
> >
> > Nedd info on removing to restore to original beauty.
> >
> > Bill Carroll

dd

[email protected] (dave martin)

in reply to [email protected] (Bill Dotte) on 23/07/2003 11:35 PM

25/07/2003 11:18 AM

U Al & Mike, thanks for your responses. They both make sense. I'm sure
I've read that the white bloom is due to water fog formation in the
finish, but can see now that simply removing the water wouldn't
suffice to remove the scattering source & might just make it worse
because the index jump would increase.

Filling the voids with a low vapor pressure oil would destroy the
index jump.

The peanut butter approach sounds good on both counts!


"Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Hi Dave
>
> It's a fair question and I can understand why you would be skeptical.
>
> The blush is caused by moisture infiltrating the finish. An oily substance
> displaces the moisture and thus, the blush.
>
> I have used the petroleum jelly trick for some time and had heard about the
> use of peanut butter but was also skeptical about it's use.
>
> What got me to try it (peanut butter) was a trivia question my wife found in
> a (I think it was) Readers Digest. The question was, "Why does peanut butter
> stick to the roof or your mouth?'. The answer was, "Because it draws the
> moisture from the roof of the mouth making it dry enough for the peanut
> butter to stick"
>
> These aren't instant cures and it may take a day or two, but it does work.
>
> Take care
>
> --
> Mike G.
> Heirloom Woods
> www.heirloom-woods.net
> "dave martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I not questioning the claim that peanut butter or petroleum jelly
> > might remove white water blush stains from furniture finishes but
> > don't understand how they might function chemically.
> >
> > I thought that such watermarks were the result of microscopic globs of
> > water suspended in the finish & removing them involves "sucking the
> > water out" by means of a dessicant (like alcohol or diatomaceous
> > earth.)
> >
> > How then would petroleum jelly or peanut butter work? Aren't they both
> > already saturated with water?
> >
> >

MG

"Mike G"

in reply to [email protected] (Bill Dotte) on 23/07/2003 11:35 PM

25/07/2003 9:58 AM

Hi Dave

It's a fair question and I can understand why you would be skeptical.

The blush is caused by moisture infiltrating the finish. An oily substance
displaces the moisture and thus, the blush.

I have used the petroleum jelly trick for some time and had heard about the
use of peanut butter but was also skeptical about it's use.

What got me to try it (peanut butter) was a trivia question my wife found in
a (I think it was) Readers Digest. The question was, "Why does peanut butter
stick to the roof or your mouth?'. The answer was, "Because it draws the
moisture from the roof of the mouth making it dry enough for the peanut
butter to stick"

These aren't instant cures and it may take a day or two, but it does work.

Take care

--
Mike G.
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"dave martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I not questioning the claim that peanut butter or petroleum jelly
> might remove white water blush stains from furniture finishes but
> don't understand how they might function chemically.
>
> I thought that such watermarks were the result of microscopic globs of
> water suspended in the finish & removing them involves "sucking the
> water out" by means of a dessicant (like alcohol or diatomaceous
> earth.)
>
> How then would petroleum jelly or peanut butter work? Aren't they both
> already saturated with water?
>
>


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