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"stryped"

11/01/2006 10:41 AM

Newbie question

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I am a newbie. I have a question. My first project is going to be a
basic bookshelf for my wife's classroom. It does not have to be perfect
she says but I want to do it right.

I was thinking of basically a box with rabited ends and dados for the
shelves. Thought about routing a roman ogee on the edge of the boards
before asembly. But that wont look right where the sides and top or
bottom meet will they? (Horizontal pieces meet verticle pieces)

Am I understanding right? WHat do I need to do?


This topic has 11 replies

rb

"rickluce"

in reply to "stryped" on 11/01/2006 10:41 AM

11/01/2006 12:40 PM

Maybe a rabbet on the back edge of all the box sides to accept a panel
of some sort. Great to eliminate books from dropping out of the back.
But more importantly it adds a tremendous amount of strength. I could
be way off base with this comment, but I could never trust a rabbet
alone, I always reinforce my work with a back panel. Make a rabbet for
your back panel or just nail it to the back of your bookshelf Also
maybe you can make the shelves deep enough to show off the ogee. In
other word... make the box lets say 20 inches and the shelves 20 1/8 to
show off the ogee. You can also hide your dados/rabbet with a face
frame of some sort. It can just be an end cap of the same width as your
box sides (~3/4" or so). Just cut notches in your shelves to go around
the end cap.


>
> I am a newbie. I have a question. My first project is going to be a
> basic bookshelf for my wife's classroom. It does not have to be perfect
> she says but I want to do it right.
>
> I was thinking of basically a box with rabited ends and dados for the
> shelves. Thought about routing a roman ogee on the edge of the boards
> before asembly. But that wont look right where the sides and top or
> bottom meet will they? (Horizontal pieces meet verticle pieces)
>
> Am I understanding right? WHat do I need to do?

rb

"rickluce"

in reply to "stryped" on 11/01/2006 10:41 AM

11/01/2006 12:43 PM

A classy answer.

rb

"rickluce"

in reply to "stryped" on 11/01/2006 10:41 AM

11/01/2006 1:39 PM

Well Thats good because I wasn't writing to you. And if you don't know
the difference between writing and talking you probably shouldn't do
either.

rb

"rickluce"

in reply to "stryped" on 11/01/2006 10:41 AM

11/01/2006 1:50 PM

And by the way dickwad. I post through google groups. It must have been
google group that left out the post I was responding to. So before YOU
"blurt" out out something, realize that the posting tree indicates who
I am speaking to and that certainly wasn't you. Have a nice day.:-)

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "stryped" on 11/01/2006 10:41 AM

11/01/2006 4:12 PM


"rickluce" blurted

>A classy answer.
>

Too bad nobody knows what you are talking about.

Learn to attribute.

That way everybody won't think you are talking to yourself.



FD

"Frank Drackman"

in reply to "stryped" on 11/01/2006 10:41 AM

11/01/2006 2:01 PM


"rickluce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> And by the way dickwad. I post through google groups. It must have been
> google group that left out the post I was responding to. So before YOU
> "blurt" out out something, realize that the posting tree indicates who
> I am speaking to and that certainly wasn't you. Have a nice day.:-)
>

From Goggle:

How can I automatically quote the previous message when I post a
reply?


To quote the previous message in your reply, click the "show
options" link then the blue "Reply" link at the top of the post. The full
text of the previous message is included in the composition box and marked
with angle brackets (>) at the start of each line. You can place your
comments between lines of the quote or simply add your thoughts at the
bottom.


EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "stryped" on 11/01/2006 10:41 AM

12/01/2006 3:33 PM


"rickluce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> And by the way dickwad. I post through google groups. It must have been
> google group that left out the post I was responding to. So before YOU
> "blurt" out out something, realize that the posting tree indicates who
> I am speaking to and that certainly wasn't you. Have a nice day.:-)

Who are you talking to? What tree? Before you blurt out something, be
sure everyone can understand what you are seeing as many of us see nothing.

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "stryped" on 11/01/2006 10:41 AM

11/01/2006 8:34 PM


"rickluce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well Thats good because I wasn't writing to you. And if you don't know
> the difference between writing and talking you probably shouldn't do
> either.
>

I assume you are talking/writing/whatever to me. Nobody knows.

So you think that usenet is a private conversation/communication??

No wonder you have such problems with netiquette.

Do really not understand the concept of conversations in a newsgroup??
Maybe some remedial english classes could help. Or an introduction to
usenet/cyber communications could help as well.



OL

Oleg Lego

in reply to "stryped" on 11/01/2006 10:41 AM

11/01/2006 10:52 PM

The rickluce entity posted thusly:

>And by the way dickwad. I post through google groups. It must have been
>google group that left out the post I was responding to. So before YOU
>"blurt" out out something, realize that the posting tree indicates who
>I am speaking to and that certainly wasn't you. Have a nice day.:-)

The posting tree only indicates who you are responding to if

a. the reader has the posting in question
b. the reader's newsreader allows seeing the tree
c. the reader's newsreader is set up to indicate a tree.

It's up to you. If you want folks to read your postings, it helps to
post in ways that make it easy to do it, and it helps a lot more if
you are civil to those that offer good advice.

Ba

B a r r y

in reply to "stryped" on 11/01/2006 10:41 AM

11/01/2006 7:11 PM

stryped wrote:
>
> I am a newbie. I have a question. My first project is going to be a
> basic bookshelf for my wife's classroom. It does not have to be perfect
> she says but I want to do it right.
>
> I was thinking of basically a box with rabited ends and dados for the
> shelves. Thought about routing a roman ogee on the edge of the boards
> before asembly. But that wont look right where the sides and top or
> bottom meet will they? (Horizontal pieces meet verticle pieces)
>
> Am I understanding right? WHat do I need to do?
>


Which boards?

If you mean the shelves, use a stopped dado. After test fitting the
shelves, rout the edge. The shaped edge will run right up to solid wood.

If you mean the inside of the face frame, assemble the case first, rout
the edge, and finish the corners with hand tools.

FWIW, when you ask a question, you get archived, because most of us will
quote your post. Your archived post will then help others as they
Google for answers before asking a question.

What does no archiving posts accomplish from an anonymous email address
accomplish?

Barry

MD

"Morris Dovey"

in reply to "stryped" on 11/01/2006 10:41 AM

11/01/2006 1:17 PM

stryped (in [email protected])
said:

| I am a newbie. I have a question. My first project is going to be a
| basic bookshelf for my wife's classroom. It does not have to be
| perfect she says but I want to do it right.

Good on you. I'd expect that at some point someone will take a look
around and general classroom appearance will affect her evaluation.
You might as well help her look good...

| I was thinking of basically a box with rabited ends and dados for
| the shelves. Thought about routing a roman ogee on the edge of the
| boards before asembly. But that wont look right where the sides and
| top or bottom meet will they? (Horizontal pieces meet verticle
| pieces)

You're on the right track with the basic box approach. I think I'd be
inclined to drill for shelf pins (allow for changing needs) and drop
the ogee (thins the edge and increases likelyhood of damage to both
bookcase and student if someone trips) in favor or square (eased)
edges. My first choice of materials for a classroom would be hard
maple. You'll want a design that can't tip and won't rack.

| Am I understanding right? WHat do I need to do?

I'd guess that you probably are. Work carefully and build in lots of
TLC.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html


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