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16/01/2006 6:54 PM

Glue on wood during glue-up!!!

I'm beginning glue-up of some bookshelves prior to finishing. I am
concerned that I will get wood glue on portions of the wood that should
show, and that they will therefore not take stain.

What precautions can I take against having this happen? What can I do
when it does happen? Obviously, I'll be ready with a rag to wipe off
any glue that does drip onto my surfaces, what else can be done? If I
don't notice a drip right away, is there anything to be done besides
sanding it off? And does that even work, or will the glue have seeped
into the wood too far? (By the way, I'm using red oak here.)

Thanks,

Scott


This topic has 12 replies

Ll

LP

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2006 6:54 PM

17/01/2006 4:11 PM


>On 16 Jan 2006 18:54:36 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>I'm beginning glue-up of some bookshelves prior to finishing. I am
>>concerned that I will get wood glue on portions of the wood that should
>>show, and that they will therefore not take stain.
>>
>>What precautions can I take against having this happen? What can I do
>>when it does happen? Obviously, I'll be ready with a rag to wipe off
>>any glue that does drip onto my surfaces, what else can be done? If I
>>don't notice a drip right away, is there anything to be done besides
>>sanding it off? And does that even work, or will the glue have seeped
>>into the wood too far? (By the way, I'm using red oak here.)
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Scott

I typically use aniline dye so just prior to glue up I color all the
areas in/near the joints where glue might smear.
Once the glue is dry any squeeze out can be scraped/sanded off and the
wood is still colored underneath. Then you can do your final sanding
and stain the whole piece and any glue near the joints will all but
disappear.

With the dye this only takes a few minutes of prep prior to glue up,
but if you're using oil-based stains you'll have to wait out its
normal drying time before gluing. And no, it wont interfere with your
glue joint.

Fj

"FriscoSoxFan"

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2006 6:54 PM

16/01/2006 7:19 PM

Definitely use the blue tape as mentioned....

However, a couple of weeks ago I tried the new Elmer's stainable wood
glue. According to the package, it uses sawdust or real wood as one of
the ingredients to help absorb stain. I was building a whole bunch of
"pot drawers" to go inside our kitchen base cabinets. Since these would
not be visible and be filled with pots, I wasn't too concerned with
100% perfect finishing, so I skipped the tape and just sponged off
excess with a damp rag during glue-up. The stain finish came out
amazingly better than when I used to use just yellow glue. This was on
red oak ply.

h

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2006 6:54 PM

17/01/2006 7:07 PM

Okay.... Why use aniline dye? Why not just touch the areas around the
joint with the stain I'm planning on using anyway? Does the aniline
give some advantage here?

LT

Leif Thorvaldson

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2006 6:54 PM

17/01/2006 12:57 AM

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:46:31 -0800, David <[email protected]> wrote:

>Leif Thorvaldson wrote:
>
>> On 16 Jan 2006 18:54:36 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm beginning glue-up of some bookshelves prior to finishing. I am
>>>concerned that I will get wood glue on portions of the wood that should
>>>show, and that they will therefore not take stain.
>>>
>>>What precautions can I take against having this happen? What can I do
>>>when it does happen? Obviously, I'll be ready with a rag to wipe off
>>>any glue that does drip onto my surfaces, what else can be done? If I
>>>don't notice a drip right away, is there anything to be done besides
>>>sanding it off? And does that even work, or will the glue have seeped
>>>into the wood too far? (By the way, I'm using red oak here.)
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Scott
>>
>>
>> What's this blue tape you are talking about??
>>
>> Leif
>
>
>3M's Painter's Tape
>
>Dave

Thanks!

Leif

BM

Brooks Moses

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2006 6:54 PM

17/01/2006 11:35 PM

Leif Thorvaldson wrote:
> On 16 Jan 2006 18:54:36 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>What precautions can I take against having this happen? What can I do
>>when it does happen? Obviously, I'll be ready with a rag to wipe off
>>any glue that does drip onto my surfaces, what else can be done? If I
>>don't notice a drip right away, is there anything to be done besides
>>sanding it off? And does that even work, or will the glue have seeped
>>into the wood too far? (By the way, I'm using red oak here.)
>
> What's this blue tape you are talking about??

It's a high-quality masking tape that's designed to not leave adhesive
residue behind even if it's left on for a day or two.

- Brooks


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LP

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2006 6:54 PM

18/01/2006 2:10 AM

On 17 Jan 2006 19:07:20 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>Okay.... Why use aniline dye? Why not just touch the areas around the
>joint with the stain I'm planning on using anyway? Does the aniline
>give some advantage here?

Sorry I guess I wasnt too clear on that point. I mentioned aniline
because its what I use almost exclusively and thats the method I
outlined. If you plan to use some other type stain on your project
then by all means use it to touch up the joints prior to glue up.

Once your glue dries and you do a little sanding on the joints they
look pretty nasty but forge ahead and once you get your stain/topcoat
on it will look just fine.

EB

Eric Berning

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2006 6:54 PM

23/01/2006 7:39 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> I'm beginning glue-up of some bookshelves prior to finishing. I am
> concerned that I will get wood glue on portions of the wood that should
> show, and that they will therefore not take stain.
>
> What precautions can I take against having this happen? What can I do
> when it does happen? Obviously, I'll be ready with a rag to wipe off
> any glue that does drip onto my surfaces, what else can be done? If I
> don't notice a drip right away, is there anything to be done besides
> sanding it off? And does that even work, or will the glue have seeped
> into the wood too far? (By the way, I'm using red oak here.)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
>
Just noticed a new product in the recent Wood. Called De-Glue Goo.
They seemed to like it. Never tried it myself.
Eric

Iw

"Ivan"

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2006 6:54 PM

24/01/2006 4:56 AM


"Eric Berning" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
>> I'm beginning glue-up of some bookshelves prior to finishing. I am
>> concerned that I will get wood glue on portions of the wood that should
>> show, and that they will therefore not take stain.
>>
>> What precautions can I take against having this happen? What can I do
>> when it does happen? Obviously, I'll be ready with a rag to wipe off
>> any glue that does drip onto my surfaces, what else can be done? If I
>> don't notice a drip right away, is there anything to be done besides
>> sanding it off? And does that even work, or will the glue have seeped
>> into the wood too far? (By the way, I'm using red oak here.)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Scott
>>


Mask where you don't want glue with painters tape.

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2006 6:54 PM

17/01/2006 11:49 AM

[email protected] wrote:
> I'm beginning glue-up of some bookshelves prior to finishing. I am
> concerned that I will get wood glue on portions of the wood that
> should show, and that they will therefore not take stain.
>
> What precautions can I take against having this happen?

Stain/finish areas that won't be glued before gluing
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> What can I do
> when it does happen? Obviously, I'll be ready with a rag to wipe off
> any glue that does drip onto my surfaces, what else can be done? If I
> don't notice a drip right away, is there anything to be done besides
> sanding it off?

If it's dripping you are using too much glue. If you are worrying about
minor squeeze out at the joint - small droplets - let it dry and
cut/scrape off with a chisel.

Alternatively, you could scrape it off while wet...I sometimes use a
beveled piece of hardwood shaped like a chisel blade to do so; I then
use a damp paper towel over my scraper and scrape again; finally, a dry
paper towel over the scraper. But this is only it I was sloppy and got
*lots* of squeeze out; I prefer letting it dry and cutting/scraping it
off.


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Leif Thorvaldson

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2006 6:54 PM

16/01/2006 10:42 PM

On 16 Jan 2006 18:54:36 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>I'm beginning glue-up of some bookshelves prior to finishing. I am
>concerned that I will get wood glue on portions of the wood that should
>show, and that they will therefore not take stain.
>
>What precautions can I take against having this happen? What can I do
>when it does happen? Obviously, I'll be ready with a rag to wipe off
>any glue that does drip onto my surfaces, what else can be done? If I
>don't notice a drip right away, is there anything to be done besides
>sanding it off? And does that even work, or will the glue have seeped
>into the wood too far? (By the way, I'm using red oak here.)
>
>Thanks,
>
>Scott

What's this blue tape you are talking about??

Leif

DD

David

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2006 6:54 PM

16/01/2006 7:09 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> I'm beginning glue-up of some bookshelves prior to finishing. I am
> concerned that I will get wood glue on portions of the wood that should
> show, and that they will therefore not take stain.
>
> What precautions can I take against having this happen? What can I do
> when it does happen? Obviously, I'll be ready with a rag to wipe off
> any glue that does drip onto my surfaces, what else can be done? If I
> don't notice a drip right away, is there anything to be done besides
> sanding it off? And does that even work, or will the glue have seeped
> into the wood too far? (By the way, I'm using red oak here.)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
>
put blue tape next to all joints and be sure to securely press the edge
of the tape down, adjacent to the glued joint. That beats starving the
joint for glue because one is afraid of having too much squeeze out.
wiping down excess glue with a wet rag doesn't work all that well.
you'll still get glue in the pores, interfering with finishing.

Dave

DD

David

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2006 6:54 PM

16/01/2006 10:46 PM

Leif Thorvaldson wrote:

> On 16 Jan 2006 18:54:36 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>>I'm beginning glue-up of some bookshelves prior to finishing. I am
>>concerned that I will get wood glue on portions of the wood that should
>>show, and that they will therefore not take stain.
>>
>>What precautions can I take against having this happen? What can I do
>>when it does happen? Obviously, I'll be ready with a rag to wipe off
>>any glue that does drip onto my surfaces, what else can be done? If I
>>don't notice a drip right away, is there anything to be done besides
>>sanding it off? And does that even work, or will the glue have seeped
>>into the wood too far? (By the way, I'm using red oak here.)
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Scott
>
>
> What's this blue tape you are talking about??
>
> Leif


3M's Painter's Tape

Dave


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