As Winter approaches here in Michigan, it's time to look to see what
new equipment I may want, and a Jointer is right up there.
The question that I have for those that own one, is, do you joint
every board when you're preparing your material? I understand the use
of a jointer when gluing up a large panel, for instance, but do you go
through a complete procedure to square up every board exactly all the
time?
Only those that need it ... then those that didn't need it so they match
those that did.
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"Larry Bud" wrote in message
> As Winter approaches here in Michigan, it's time to look to see what
> new equipment I may want, and a Jointer is right up there.
>
> The question that I have for those that own one, is, do you joint
> every board when you're preparing your material? I understand the use
> of a jointer when gluing up a large panel, for instance, but do you go
> through a complete procedure to square up every board exactly all the
> time?
In article <[email protected]>, Nate
Perkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> Buying S4S stock might help, but remember that S4S just means smooth
> on 4 sides (not straight).
Amen. I've seen lots of S4S corkscrews.
Kevin
Every stick. See http://www.patwarner.com/material_prep.html link for
one milling schedule.
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> As Winter approaches here in Michigan, it's time to look to see what
> new equipment I may want, and a Jointer is right up there.
>
> The question that I have for those that own one, is, do you joint
> every board when you're preparing your material? I understand the use
> of a jointer when gluing up a large panel, for instance, but do you go
> through a complete procedure to square up every board exactly all the
> time?
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:39:42 GMT, B a r r y B u r k e J r .
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 10:47:46 -0400, Trent© <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>
>>When I want a very good edge, I simply change saw blades and use my
>>planer blade. Edges come out darn near perfect.
>>
>>And I don't own a jointer. I use my router w/table for jointer work
>>when I need it.
>>
>
>How do you flatten the face?
>
>Barry
On a 4" surface?...or on a 32" surface?
I use a sander,Barry...and scribble a bunch of pencil marks! lol
Hope ya'll have a nice week...
Trent
Proud member of the Roy Rogers fan club!
Larry Bud asks:
>The question that I have for those that own one, is, do you joint
>every board when you're preparing your material? I understand the use
>of a jointer when gluing up a large panel, for instance, but do you go
>through a complete procedure to square up every board exactly all the
>time?
Yes, but not always with the jointer. For small projects, a smoothing plane is
often handier.
Charlie Self
"Men willingly believe what they wish."
Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico
Only if a board needs it.
Before using a board I lay it on a flat surface and
alternative tap on opposing corners. If it rocks it
gets joined. If it doesn't I altenately press on the
center of the ends of the board. If it rocks it gets
joined. If it passes those test it gets turned over
and the process is repeated. Any rocklng and the board's
face gets joined.
If the faces are flat I check the long edges for straight.
Again, on a flat surface, the board is set on edge and
the ends pressed on looking for any rocking. If there's
any rocking the edge gets joined.
Finally I'll check that both long edges are square to
the face using a small machinist square. If they're
not square the board gets joined and the opposing edge
ripped.
Found out early on that you can't make rectangles out
of trapezoids and the importance of flat, square and
straight.
charlie b
"Larry Bud" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As Winter approaches here in Michigan, it's time to look to see what
> new equipment I may want, and a Jointer is right up there.
>
Someone else said it - that the Jointer is an underappreciated tool in the
shop. Now that I have one, I find myself using it all of the time! Buy one,
and you'll use it.
On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 17:59:59 GMT, Bob G <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>In short YES..... I found out long ago that starting with 90.000 degree
>angles just makes the entire project go smoother...
>
>Bob Griffiths
Wow. In a flashback to European-style numbers, I thought for a moment you
were jointing somewhere on the sun -- or maybe Mercury.
On 8 Sep 2003 07:55:04 -0700, [email protected] (Larry Bud)
wrote:
>As Winter approaches here in Michigan, it's time to look to see what
>new equipment I may want, and a Jointer is right up there.
>
>The question that I have for those that own one, is, do you joint
>every board when you're preparing your material? I understand the use
>of a jointer when gluing up a large panel, for instance, but do you go
>through a complete procedure to square up every board exactly all the
>time?
It depends on the project.
When I want a very good edge, I simply change saw blades and use my
planer blade. Edges come out darn near perfect.
And I don't own a jointer. I use my router w/table for jointer work
when I need it.
If you've got a good table saw and blades...or turned it INTO a good
table saw (mine cost $99 with stand...lol)...you don't always need to
do any prep work after the cut. A lot depends on your tools...and
technique, of course.
Hope ya'll have a nice week...
Trent
Proud member of the Roy Rogers fan club!
[email protected] (Larry Bud) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> As Winter approaches here in Michigan, it's time to look to see what
> new equipment I may want, and a Jointer is right up there.
>
> The question that I have for those that own one, is, do you joint
> every board when you're preparing your material? I understand the use
> of a jointer when gluing up a large panel, for instance, but do you go
> through a complete procedure to square up every board exactly all the
> time?
Yes, definitely! Everything gets much easier and more precise when
the stock is straight and square.
Buying S4S stock might help, but remember that S4S just means smooth
on 4 sides (not straight). Also, all stock moves when cut and when
moved to a different location/humidity.
Many people rough cut their stock and let it equilibrate for a couple
of days before final jointing/planing.
Cheers, Nate
[email protected] (Larry Bud) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> As Winter approaches here in Michigan, it's time to look to see what
> new equipment I may want, and a Jointer is right up there.
>
> The question that I have for those that own one, is, do you joint
> every board when you're preparing your material? I understand the use
> of a jointer when gluing up a large panel, for instance, but do you go
> through a complete procedure to square up every board exactly all the
> time?
Sometimes I skip face jointing before the planer if the stock is
pretty flat or too wide for the jointer. I almost always edge, it's
quick and easy --- certainly easier to make a few swipes across the
jointer than to try and shove something that's not straight through
the saw. I guess the jointer is like any other tool -- not absolutely
necessary but if you have it you'll use it. I suppose if I were
starting with S4S stock it would be different, but my hoard is stored
rough sawn.
hex
-30-
Only the ones I wanted true and flat . . .
Jim
"Larry Bud" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As Winter approaches here in Michigan, it's time to look to see what
> new equipment I may want, and a Jointer is right up there.
>
> The question that I have for those that own one, is, do you joint
> every board when you're preparing your material? I understand the use
> of a jointer when gluing up a large panel, for instance, but do you go
> through a complete procedure to square up every board exactly all the
> time?
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Larry Bud) wrote:
>As Winter approaches here in Michigan, it's time to look to see what
>new equipment I may want, and a Jointer is right up there.
>
>The question that I have for those that own one, is, do you joint
>every board when you're preparing your material? I understand the use
>of a jointer when gluing up a large panel, for instance, but do you go
>through a complete procedure to square up every board exactly all the
>time?
Of course. How else do you make sure that the boards are flat and straight?
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 16:53:38 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>It has been re-hashed many times that you don't need a jointer. There are
>work arounds for most everything. It is on my list for the next major tool
>purchase. I did a few things over the weekend that would have been easier
>if I had a jointer. I just have to decide what color it should be.
>Ed
>
I can see it now on the NY Times Best Seller List: "What Color is My
Jointer -- Stories of a woodworker's great quest to discover the long-lost
secret methods of the Inca's for limiting cross-grain wood movement and for
assembling large panels w/o using a few nails to hold things in place until
the glue dries".
On 8 Sep 2003 07:55:04 -0700, [email protected] (Larry Bud)
wrote:
>The question that I have for those that own one, is, do you joint
>every board when you're preparing your material?
Yup.
Barry
On 8 Sep 2003 07:55:04 -0700, [email protected] (Larry Bud)
wrote:
>As Winter approaches here in Michigan, it's time to look to see what
>new equipment I may want, and a Jointer is right up there.
>
>The question that I have for those that own one, is, do you joint
>every board when you're preparing your material? I understand the use
>of a jointer when gluing up a large panel, for instance, but do you go
>through a complete procedure to square up every board exactly all the
>time?
Yes. You absolutely need a straight and true edge to build a quality
piece of furniture. If you are building bird houses, no.