I *think* resorcinol is the waterproof version of Weldwood, both being urea
formaldehyde...
Brian.
"George" <george@least> wrote in message
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> Wonder if we're both thinking of the resorcinol version, which was my
dad's
> favorite precisely because of the long open time.
>
> The plastic resin glue gives a great pot life figure.
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/wppages/weldwood.php
>
> Though the figure for the resorcinaol seems rather longer than my
> experience. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/wppages/resorcinol.php
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 22:17:49 -0700, "Brian" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Hey all,
> > >
> > >Is anyone out there familiar enough with this stuff to have a good feel
> for
> > >what its setup time is?
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > >Brian.
> > >
> >
> >
> > it's been a while, but my fuzzy memory says you have pretty good open
> > time, something like 15 minutes, then leave it in the clamps
> > overnight.
>
>
"patrick conroy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> The responses you're getting saying 15-20min seems odd. DJM is fond of
using
> "plastic resin glue" when he needs very long open times.
>
> Gives the impression it would be "hours".
>
> This site: http://www.jeffgreefwoodworking.com/commerce/glue/ gives the
> "hours" impression (albeit at cooler temps) too.
>
Actually 20 minutes sounds about right. I just wanted to confirm. It's
probably more like 20-30, though. I think you're confused about the
difference between open time and pot time.
Brian.
"patrick conroy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Brian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > I think you're confused
> Yes.
>
Heh. Hopefully you didn't take that the wrong way.
Brian.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Pot life, according to the manufacturer, ranges from 30 minutes to 4 hours
> depending on temperature, and they say it should not be used below 70F.
> <http://www.dap.com/techbulletins/00030201.pdf>
C'mon John - this is Usenet. No facts please, only conjecture allowed... :)
Wonder if we're both thinking of the resorcinol version, which was my dad's
favorite precisely because of the long open time.
The plastic resin glue gives a great pot life figure.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/wppages/weldwood.php
Though the figure for the resorcinaol seems rather longer than my
experience. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/wppages/resorcinol.php
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 22:17:49 -0700, "Brian" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Hey all,
> >
> >Is anyone out there familiar enough with this stuff to have a good feel
for
> >what its setup time is?
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >Brian.
> >
>
>
> it's been a while, but my fuzzy memory says you have pretty good open
> time, something like 15 minutes, then leave it in the clamps
> overnight.
Doesn't look like it. Formaldehyde common, other different.
http://www.dap.com/msds/30201.pdf
http://www.dap.com/msds/3022022.pdf
"Brian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I *think* resorcinol is the waterproof version of Weldwood, both being
urea
> formaldehyde...
>
> "George" <george@least> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Wonder if we're both thinking of the resorcinol version, which was my
> dad's
> > favorite precisely because of the long open time.
> >
> > The plastic resin glue gives a great pot life figure.
> > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/wppages/weldwood.php
> >
> > Though the figure for the resorcinaol seems rather longer than my
> > experience. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/wppages/resorcinol.php
> >
> > <[email protected]> wrote in message
Brian wrote:
> I *think* resorcinol is the waterproof version of Weldwood, both being
> urea formaldehyde...
Not quite. "Resorcinol" glue is either resorcinol-formaldehyde or
phenol-resorcinol-formaldehyde and is rated by the Forest Products
Laboratories (major research institution) to be "structural fully
exterior", while they rate urea-formaldehyde as "structural interior". I
don't recall which formulation Weldwood uses in their "resorcinol"
glue--been a long time but I seem to recall phenol listed on the label, in
any case it's a quite different product from their "plastic resin" glue.
Note that "Weldwood" is a DAP brand name that covers at least as broad a
range of adhesives as "Loctite".
>
> Brian.
>
> "George" <george@least> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Wonder if we're both thinking of the resorcinol version, which was my
> dad's
>> favorite precisely because of the long open time.
>>
>> The plastic resin glue gives a great pot life figure.
>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/wppages/weldwood.php
>>
>> Though the figure for the resorcinaol seems rather longer than my
>> experience. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/wppages/resorcinol.php
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 22:17:49 -0700, "Brian" <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >Hey all,
>> > >
>> > >Is anyone out there familiar enough with this stuff to have a good
>> > >feel
>> for
>> > >what its setup time is?
>> > >
>> > >Thanks in advance.
>> > >
>> > >Brian.
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > it's been a while, but my fuzzy memory says you have pretty good open
>> > time, something like 15 minutes, then leave it in the clamps
>> > overnight.
>>
>>
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
patrick conroy wrote:
>
> "Brian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>> Is anyone out there familiar enough with this stuff to have a good feel
> for
>> what its setup time is?
>
> The responses you're getting saying 15-20min seems odd. DJM is fond of
> using "plastic resin glue" when he needs very long open times.
>
> Gives the impression it would be "hours".
>
> This site: http://www.jeffgreefwoodworking.com/commerce/glue/ gives the
> "hours" impression (albeit at cooler temps) too.
Pot life, according to the manufacturer, ranges from 30 minutes to 4 hours
depending on temperature, and they say it should not be used below 70F.
<http://www.dap.com/techbulletins/00030201.pdf>
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 22:17:49 -0700, "Brian" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Hey all,
>
>Is anyone out there familiar enough with this stuff to have a good feel for
>what its setup time is?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Brian.
>
it's been a while, but my fuzzy memory says you have pretty good open
time, something like 15 minutes, then leave it in the clamps
overnight.
On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 18:17:50 GMT, "patrick conroy"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Brian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>> Is anyone out there familiar enough with this stuff to have a good feel
>for
>> what its setup time is?
>
>The responses you're getting saying 15-20min seems odd. DJM is fond of using
>"plastic resin glue" when he needs very long open times.
>
>Gives the impression it would be "hours".
>
>This site: http://www.jeffgreefwoodworking.com/commerce/glue/ gives the
>"hours" impression (albeit at cooler temps) too.
>
could well be. it's been at least 10 years since I've used the stuff,
and we all know what them rolling decades does to the memory....
plus, where I live, hot is more likely than cooler temps.
"Brian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> Is anyone out there familiar enough with this stuff to have a good feel
for
> what its setup time is?
The responses you're getting saying 15-20min seems odd. DJM is fond of using
"plastic resin glue" when he needs very long open times.
Gives the impression it would be "hours".
This site: http://www.jeffgreefwoodworking.com/commerce/glue/ gives the
"hours" impression (albeit at cooler temps) too.
"Brian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I think you're confused
Yes.