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[email protected] (Greg Carter)

21/01/2004 5:47 AM

Kitchen cabinets question

I'm scoping out redoing our kitchen cabinets, and have read the
threads here, and bought a few books on the subject. I need a point
of clarification. My wife loves the look of cherry for the cabinets,
which I believe means she would like it for the drawer faces, doors,
and face frames. Should I carry the cherry look through to the
cabinet carcasses themselves, that is, use cherry plywood for the
sides, tops and bottoms? Or would that make it too dark inside the
cabinets?

If not cherry, then what? The finish on the cherry will be natural.
Clearly, the outside cabinet sides that will show will be cherry
plywood, but I'm looking at the insides, the back face, even the
shelves. Drawers will probably be a hardwood, but I haven't nailed
that one down, either. I'm just stumbling over myself on this one.
Any help gratefully appreciated.

Greg


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EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to [email protected] (Greg Carter) on 21/01/2004 5:47 AM

21/01/2004 2:05 PM


"Greg Carter" <[email protected]> wrote in message ...
> Should I carry the cherry look through to the
> cabinet carcasses themselves, that is, use cherry plywood for the
> sides, tops and bottoms? Or would that make it too dark inside the
> cabinets?
>
> If not cherry, then what? The finish on the cherry will be natural.

Go to the nearest kitchen center and look around. Open the cabinets and see
what is inside. IMO, the cherry would be too dark inside (not to mention
expensive) when a lighter wood would make searching for the can of beans
easier. I don't object to opening a drawer and finding a contrasting wood,
but you wife may. Best to look around.

Birch plywood is much lighter. If you do go with solid woods, there are many
varieties that would be suitable.
Ed.


MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to [email protected] (Greg Carter) on 21/01/2004 5:47 AM

23/01/2004 4:44 AM

In article <[email protected]>, jim_2004
@mindless.com says...
> Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
... snip
>
> I don't recommend painting interiors, especially gloss enamel on the
> inside of enclosed cabinets. It's expensive, it's high maintenance, it
> stinks for a long time, glass tends to stick if not totally cured
> which may take months. Save the paint for show areas. If you want
> white use melamine or ply core melamine.
>

How prevalent is ply-core melamine? What is the price delta relative
to particle-core melamine?

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to [email protected] (Greg Carter) on 21/01/2004 5:47 AM

22/01/2004 12:42 AM

On 21 Jan 2004 05:47:27 -0800, [email protected] (Greg Carter)
wrote:

>I'm scoping out redoing our kitchen cabinets, and have read the
>threads here, and bought a few books on the subject. I need a point
>of clarification. My wife loves the look of cherry for the cabinets,
>which I believe means she would like it for the drawer faces, doors,
>and face frames. Should I carry the cherry look through to the
>cabinet carcasses themselves, that is, use cherry plywood for the
>sides, tops and bottoms? Or would that make it too dark inside the
>cabinets?
>
>If not cherry, then what? The finish on the cherry will be natural.
>Clearly, the outside cabinet sides that will show will be cherry
>plywood, but I'm looking at the insides, the back face, even the
>shelves. Drawers will probably be a hardwood, but I haven't nailed
>that one down, either. I'm just stumbling over myself on this one.
>Any help gratefully appreciated.
>
>Greg

I'd use cherry ply for the sides, but only for sides that are visible.
Cabinet inside would be painted a gloss enamel white for easy cleaing
and light reflection, unless the cabinet doors are see-though glass.
The inside door should be as the outside, as it is very visible when
the door is opened. I seriously doubt the interior
sides/top/bottom/back will be noticed once filled up with stuff.

jM

in reply to [email protected] (Greg Carter) on 21/01/2004 5:47 AM

22/01/2004 10:51 AM

Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

>
> I'd use cherry ply for the sides, but only for sides that are visible.
> Cabinet inside would be painted a gloss enamel white for easy cleaing
> and light reflection, unless the cabinet doors are see-though glass.
> The inside door should be as the outside, as it is very visible when
> the door is opened. I seriously doubt the interior
> sides/top/bottom/back will be noticed once filled up with stuff.

I don't recommend painting interiors, especially gloss enamel on the
inside of enclosed cabinets. It's expensive, it's high maintenance, it
stinks for a long time, glass tends to stick if not totally cured
which may take months. Save the paint for show areas. If you want
white use melamine or ply core melamine. My standard practice for wood
interior is to use pre finished birch or cabinet grade maple panels.
By pre finished I mean either buy pre finished or pre finish yourself.
Behind glass doors or open/exposed cabinets I match the exterior. If
you choose cherry ply for the casework plan on 2x+ the cost of birch
and mucho times the cost of melamine. IMHO melamine is a perfectly
sound choice and it saves the cost of finishing.

Mike

Rb

Renata

in reply to [email protected] (Greg Carter) on 21/01/2004 5:47 AM

21/01/2004 3:09 PM

Personally, I think I'd prefer a lighter inside and go with something
like birch (or maple). i.e. birch ply for all carcasses except those
where the outside face is seen. Doors and drawer fronts would be
cherry, obviously

Renata

On 21 Jan 2004 05:47:27 -0800, [email protected] (Greg Carter)
wrote:

>I'm scoping out redoing our kitchen cabinets, and have read the
>threads here, and bought a few books on the subject. I need a point
>of clarification. My wife loves the look of cherry for the cabinets,
>which I believe means she would like it for the drawer faces, doors,
>and face frames. Should I carry the cherry look through to the
>cabinet carcasses themselves, that is, use cherry plywood for the
>sides, tops and bottoms? Or would that make it too dark inside the
>cabinets?
>
>If not cherry, then what? The finish on the cherry will be natural.
>Clearly, the outside cabinet sides that will show will be cherry
>plywood, but I'm looking at the insides, the back face, even the
>shelves. Drawers will probably be a hardwood, but I haven't nailed
>that one down, either. I'm just stumbling over myself on this one.
>Any help gratefully appreciated.
>
>Greg

Kk

"Knucklehead"

in reply to [email protected] (Greg Carter) on 21/01/2004 5:47 AM

21/01/2004 1:55 PM

Cherry will change colors as it is exposed to light. So even if you make
your inside match your outside today, in 5 years they won't match anyway as
they outside will get more light than the inside.

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http://users.adelphia.net/~kyhighland


"Greg Carter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm scoping out redoing our kitchen cabinets, and have read the
> threads here, and bought a few books on the subject. I need a point
> of clarification. My wife loves the look of cherry for the cabinets,
> which I believe means she would like it for the drawer faces, doors,
> and face frames. Should I carry the cherry look through to the
> cabinet carcasses themselves, that is, use cherry plywood for the
> sides, tops and bottoms? Or would that make it too dark inside the
> cabinets?
>
> If not cherry, then what? The finish on the cherry will be natural.
> Clearly, the outside cabinet sides that will show will be cherry
> plywood, but I'm looking at the insides, the back face, even the
> shelves. Drawers will probably be a hardwood, but I haven't nailed
> that one down, either. I'm just stumbling over myself on this one.
> Any help gratefully appreciated.
>
> Greg


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