Sears 10" bandsaw

Frank <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sunday, September 8, 2013 10:16:46 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
>> On 9/8/2013 2:17 AM, Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Model 124.214000, identical to the Rikon 10" saw also carried by
>>
>>> Sears, but $170 instead of $220. Turns out to be a decent machine
>>
>>> for the price. Tracked perfectly right out of the box. Blade guides
>>
>>> needed to be set in closer, but otherwise, better than I expected.
>>
>>> Anyone put one of these to a torture test, i.e. resawing 4" black
>>
>>> locust?
>>
>>
>>
>> I've no klew on the current model specifically; I've an old 10"
>>
>> Craftsman from the '70s era, roughly, that's a decent-enough saw for
>>
>> what it is.
>>
>>
>>
>> The problem w/ it for resawing is it simply doesn't have sufficient HP
>>
>> for it w/ the supplied 1/2 hp motor for full throat capacity for harder
>>
>> woods even w/ a resaw blade. I put a 3/4 on this one and it's ok for
>>
>> what it is. I'd expect basically the same thing on the one you have
>>
>> presuming it is reasonably stout.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is it fixed frame or does it have the ability for a riser block to be
>>
>> inserted? This one is of the Al cast "simulated torsion box" design so
>>
>> doesn't allow same...
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>
> Fixed frame, welded steel. 4-1/2" resaw capacity. Did okay
> with some 4" walnut with the included 6 tooth blade, slow, but
> acceptable. In the rare event that I need more capacity, I have
> a 100 year old George Hammond crosscut saw that I retoothed 6 pt
> rip, narrow set.

I suppose your blade is 6 teeth per inch. You are seriously going to want
some where in the area of less than 2 teeth per inch. I use a 1 tooth per
inch bi-metal and a point 8 teeth per inch in HSS for rue sawing. And you
are going to find that walnut is way softer than black locust.

On Sunday, September 8, 2013 10:16:46 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
> On 9/8/2013 2:17 AM, Frank wrote:
>
> > Model 124.214000, identical to the Rikon 10" saw also carried by
>
> > Sears, but $170 instead of $220. Turns out to be a decent machine
>
> > for the price. Tracked perfectly right out of the box. Blade guides
>
> > needed to be set in closer, but otherwise, better than I expected.
>
> > Anyone put one of these to a torture test, i.e. resawing 4" black
>
> > locust?
>
>
>
> I've no klew on the current model specifically; I've an old 10"
>
> Craftsman from the '70s era, roughly, that's a decent-enough saw for
>
> what it is.
>
>
>
> The problem w/ it for resawing is it simply doesn't have sufficient HP
>
> for it w/ the supplied 1/2 hp motor for full throat capacity for harder
>
> woods even w/ a resaw blade. I put a 3/4 on this one and it's ok for
>
> what it is. I'd expect basically the same thing on the one you have
>
> presuming it is reasonably stout.
>
>
>
> Is it fixed frame or does it have the ability for a riser block to be
>
> inserted? This one is of the Al cast "simulated torsion box" design so
>
> doesn't allow same...
>
>
>
> --

Fixed frame, welded steel. 4-1/2" resaw capacity. Did okay
with some 4" walnut with the included 6 tooth blade, slow, but
acceptable. In the rare event that I need more capacity, I have
a 100 year old George Hammond crosscut saw that I retoothed 6 pt
rip, narrow set.

On Sunday, September 8, 2013 11:21:13 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
> Frank <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, September 8, 2013 10:16:46 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
>
> >> On 9/8/2013 2:17 AM, Frank wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>> Model 124.214000, identical to the Rikon 10" saw also carried by
>
> >>
>
> >>> Sears, but $170 instead of $220. Turns out to be a decent machine
>
> >>
>
> >>> for the price. Tracked perfectly right out of the box. Blade guides
>
> >>
>
> >>> needed to be set in closer, but otherwise, better than I expected.
>
> >>
>
> >>> Anyone put one of these to a torture test, i.e. resawing 4" black
>
> >>
>
> >>> locust?
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> I've no klew on the current model specifically; I've an old 10"
>
> >>
>
> >> Craftsman from the '70s era, roughly, that's a decent-enough saw for
>
> >>
>
> >> what it is.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> The problem w/ it for resawing is it simply doesn't have sufficient HP
>
> >>
>
> >> for it w/ the supplied 1/2 hp motor for full throat capacity for harder
>
> >>
>
> >> woods even w/ a resaw blade. I put a 3/4 on this one and it's ok for
>
> >>
>
> >> what it is. I'd expect basically the same thing on the one you have
>
> >>
>
> >> presuming it is reasonably stout.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> Is it fixed frame or does it have the ability for a riser block to be
>
> >>
>
> >> inserted? This one is of the Al cast "simulated torsion box" design so
>
> >>
>
> >> doesn't allow same...
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> --
>
> >
>
> > Fixed frame, welded steel. 4-1/2" resaw capacity. Did okay
>
> > with some 4" walnut with the included 6 tooth blade, slow, but
>
> > acceptable. In the rare event that I need more capacity, I have
>
> > a 100 year old George Hammond crosscut saw that I retoothed 6 pt
>
> > rip, narrow set.
>
>
>
> I suppose your blade is 6 teeth per inch. You are seriously going to want
>
> some where in the area of less than 2 teeth per inch. I use a 1 tooth per
>
> inch bi-metal and a point 8 teeth per inch in HSS for rue sawing. And you
>
> are going to find that walnut is way softer than black locust.

I'll replace the 6 tooth blade with 3 tooth skip when it snaps. That
should be fine for general purpose cutting with occasional resawing of
guitar sides. If I turn out a finished instrument every 2 months, I'll
be doing well.

On 9/8/2013 10:16 AM, dpb wrote:
> On 9/8/2013 2:17 AM, Frank wrote:
>> Model 124.214000, identical to the Rikon 10" saw also carried by
>> Sears, but $170 instead of $220. Turns out to be a decent machine
>> for the price. Tracked perfectly right out of the box. Blade guides
>> needed to be set in closer, but otherwise, better than I expected.
>> Anyone put one of these to a torture test, i.e. resawing 4" black
>> locust?
>
> I've no klew on the current model specifically; I've an old 10"
> Craftsman from the '70s era, roughly, that's a decent-enough saw for
> what it is.
>
> The problem w/ it for resawing is it simply doesn't have sufficient HP
> for it w/ the supplied 1/2 hp motor for full throat capacity for harder
> woods even w/ a resaw blade. I put a 3/4 on this one and it's ok for
> what it is. I'd expect basically the same thing on the one you have
> presuming it is reasonably stout.
>
> Is it fixed frame or does it have the ability for a riser block to be
> inserted? This one is of the Al cast "simulated torsion box" design so
> doesn't allow same...
>
> --
Really a 3/4 blade on a 10"..
I don't put a 3/4 on my 14"

--
Jeff

On 9/8/2013 2:17 AM, Frank wrote:
> Model 124.214000, identical to the Rikon 10" saw also carried by
> Sears, but $170 instead of $220. Turns out to be a decent machine
> for the price. Tracked perfectly right out of the box. Blade guides
> needed to be set in closer, but otherwise, better than I expected.
> Anyone put one of these to a torture test, i.e. resawing 4" black
> locust?

I've no klew on the current model specifically; I've an old 10"
Craftsman from the '70s era, roughly, that's a decent-enough saw for
what it is.

The problem w/ it for resawing is it simply doesn't have sufficient HP
for it w/ the supplied 1/2 hp motor for full throat capacity for harder
woods even w/ a resaw blade. I put a 3/4 on this one and it's ok for
what it is. I'd expect basically the same thing on the one you have
presuming it is reasonably stout.

Is it fixed frame or does it have the ability for a riser block to be
inserted? This one is of the Al cast "simulated torsion box" design so
doesn't allow same...

--

On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 20:03:30 -0400, woodchucker wrote:

> Really a 3/4 blade on a 10"..
> I don't put a 3/4 on my 14"

You and me both.

I think it was Duginski who pointed out that the average 14" bandsaw
isn't strong enough to put sufficient tension on a 3/4" or wider blade.
He suggests a 1/2" blade for resawing.

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