I'm finding that I'll be needing a plow plane for my next project
(have been making do by cutting dados w/ an assortment of other hand
tools) --- does anyone have plans for such?
It doesn't need to be adjustable (save for depth which is a necessary
part of the functionality?), so should be much simpler than most of
the images I'm seeing of them on-line.
Any guidelines or resources anyone could suggest would be welcome.
Thanks!
William
On Aug 27, 1:49=A0am, Roy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Buy a copy of Making Traditional Wooden Planes by John Whelan. =A0
>
> This is the best book on planemaking I have seen so far, but this is not =
a
> frenzied field of publishing. =A0It provides info on making many types of=
planes
> beyond the basic Krenov style covered in the Finck/Krenov book. =A0Whelan=
uses b&w
> drawings/plans, dark photos plus building comments for around 18 types of
> planes, including three plough planes. =A0Starts with a Krenov style plan=
e and
> increases in complexity and difficulty from there. =A0I would love to buy=
a copy
> of this book with better illustrations, but it doesn't exist.
>
> I would suggest you have a set of plough cutters, preferably the same mak=
er, or
> at least with the same angle on them before you start. =A0There are 2-3 t=
ypes of
> cutters, and you need a different wedge for each one because of the diffe=
rence
> in angles. =A0
>
> You could probably buy a working plough plane with maybe a cutter off the=
bay
> for about $20, even less, or a lot more, depending on what you want. =A0I=
've found
> a few a cheap as a gloatable $6 at fleas. =A0Cutters usually sell separat=
e from
> the planes and run from $20-60+ a set. =A0
>
> Amazon claims they have 8 books left in stock as of this posting. =A0Lee =
Valley
> stocks the book also. =A0You'll have to do your own Google search for onl=
ine
> plans. =A0They are out there, along with a couple of very good sites that=
cover
> building other types of traditional planes. =A0Watch the line wrap on thi=
s URL:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Making-Traditional-Wooden-Planes-Whelan/dp/1879...
Thanks!
I'll have to kick this around a bit --- not winning on the auctions
I'm bidding at on the Extremely Big AuctionY site, and not having any
brilliant insights into designing one to make, nor finding any plans
on-line.
William
Buy a copy of Making Traditional Wooden Planes by John Whelan.
This is the best book on planemaking I have seen so far, but this is not a
frenzied field of publishing. It provides info on making many types of planes
beyond the basic Krenov style covered in the Finck/Krenov book. Whelan uses b&w
drawings/plans, dark photos plus building comments for around 18 types of
planes, including three plough planes. Starts with a Krenov style plane and
increases in complexity and difficulty from there. I would love to buy a copy
of this book with better illustrations, but it doesn't exist.
I would suggest you have a set of plough cutters, preferably the same maker, or
at least with the same angle on them before you start. There are 2-3 types of
cutters, and you need a different wedge for each one because of the difference
in angles.
You could probably buy a working plough plane with maybe a cutter off the bay
for about $20, even less, or a lot more, depending on what you want. I've found
a few a cheap as a gloatable $6 at fleas. Cutters usually sell separate from
the planes and run from $20-60+ a set.
Amazon claims they have 8 books left in stock as of this posting. Lee Valley
stocks the book also. You'll have to do your own Google search for online
plans. They are out there, along with a couple of very good sites that cover
building other types of traditional planes. Watch the line wrap on this URL:
http://www.amazon.com/Making-Traditional-Wooden-Planes-Whelan/dp/1879335697/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1314421733&sr=1-4
HTH,
Roy
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 12:32:12 -0700 (PDT), "William F. Adams ([email protected])"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm finding that I'll be needing a plow plane for my next project
>(have been making do by cutting dados w/ an assortment of other hand
>tools) --- does anyone have plans for such?
>
>It doesn't need to be adjustable (save for depth which is a necessary
>part of the functionality?), so should be much simpler than most of
>the images I'm seeing of them on-line.
>
>Any guidelines or resources anyone could suggest would be welcome.
>
>Thanks!
>
>William
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 10:40:30 -0500, Roy <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 06:19:52 -0700, Larry Jaques
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 08:39:12 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Am I the only one with a strange visualization when you read the subject
>>>line?
>>>
>>>I see this Piper Apache blazing down the runway in the snow with the plow
>>>clearing to the sides.
>>
>>I see an A-10 Warthog behind that plow blade, using the 20mm cannon
>>for clearing the thicker ice.
>
>You boys are obviously headed down a completely different slope than the rest of
>us.
We merely use a whole lot more of our imaginations than the rest of
youse, and if it gains us some speed, so much the better!
--
Life is an escalator:
You can move forward or backward;
you can not remain still.
-- Patricia Russell-McCloud
On Aug 25, 3:32=A0pm, "William F. Adams ([email protected])"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm finding that I'll be needing a plow plane for my next project
> (have been making do by cutting dados w/ an assortment of other hand
> tools) --- does anyone have plans for such?
>
> It doesn't need to be adjustable (save for depth which is a necessary
> part of the functionality?), so should be much simpler than most of
> the images I'm seeing of them on-line.
>
> Any guidelines or resources anyone could suggest would be welcome.
Finally found a straight-forward plan:
http://www.finewoodworking.com/item/19894/shop-made-grooving-planes
On Thou, 25 Aug 2011 12:32:12 -0700 (PDT), "William F. Adams
>I'm finding that I'll be needing a plow plane for my next project
>(have been making do by cutting dados w/ an assortment of other hand
>tools) --- does anyone have plans for such?
Yup, I designed and carried out plans for my plow plane and it's
turned out real well.
1. Called my nearest Lee Valley Tools store and confirmed they had a
right hand model in stock.
2. On my way over, stopped in at the local tavern and chatted with the
boys while I ate a steak on a kaiser bun and quaffed two Sleeman Creme
ale beer.
3. Headed over to Lee Valley and picked up my plow plane with imperial
diameter blades.
4. Rushed back home to test out the plane and was eminently satisfied.
All in all, my plans turned out real well that day. Wish most of my
plans worked out as well.
(Sorry, it's been a slow day and I had nothing else to do. By the way,
the story above is completely true in every aspect except for the fact
that I first had to raid my bank account for enough money.)
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=57678&cat=1,41182,57678
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=57678&cat=1,41182,57678
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 06:19:52 -0700, Larry Jaques
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 08:39:12 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Am I the only one with a strange visualization when you read the subject
>>line?
>>
>>I see this Piper Apache blazing down the runway in the snow with the plow
>>clearing to the sides.
>
>I see an A-10 Warthog behind that plow blade, using the 20mm cannon
>for clearing the thicker ice.
You boys are obviously headed down a completely different slope than the rest of
us.
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 06:15:08 -0700 (PDT), "William F. Adams ([email protected])"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Aug 27, 1:49 am, Roy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Buy a copy of Making Traditional Wooden Planes by John Whelan.
>>
>> This is the best book on planemaking I have seen so far, but this is not a
>> frenzied field of publishing. It provides info on making many types of planes
>> beyond the basic Krenov style covered in the Finck/Krenov book. Whelan uses b&w
>> drawings/plans, dark photos plus building comments for around 18 types of
>> planes, including three plough planes. Starts with a Krenov style plane and
>> increases in complexity and difficulty from there. I would love to buy a copy
>> of this book with better illustrations, but it doesn't exist.
>>
>> I would suggest you have a set of plough cutters, preferably the same maker, or
>> at least with the same angle on them before you start. There are 2-3 types of
>> cutters, and you need a different wedge for each one because of the difference
>> in angles.
>>
>> You could probably buy a working plough plane with maybe a cutter off the bay
>> for about $20, even less, or a lot more, depending on what you want. I've found
>> a few a cheap as a gloatable $6 at fleas. Cutters usually sell separate from
>> the planes and run from $20-60+ a set.
>>
>> Amazon claims they have 8 books left in stock as of this posting. Lee Valley
>> stocks the book also. You'll have to do your own Google search for online
>> plans. They are out there, along with a couple of very good sites that cover
>> building other types of traditional planes. Watch the line wrap on this URL:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Making-Traditional-Wooden-Planes-Whelan/dp/1879...
>
>Thanks!
>
>I'll have to kick this around a bit --- not winning on the auctions
>I'm bidding at on the Extremely Big AuctionY site, and not having any
>brilliant insights into designing one to make, nor finding any plans
>on-line.
>
>William
Bid ... higher??
See the Crowbar FAQ for instructions.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.woodworking/browse_thread/thread/3ebb256fe710c646/2eda4343c8b54652?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=%22crowbar+faq%22#2eda4343c8b54652
or if you're line-length challenged like me:
http://tinyurl.com/3l8s3kw
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 08:39:12 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>Am I the only one with a strange visualization when you read the subject
>line?
>
>I see this Piper Apache blazing down the runway in the snow with the plow
>clearing to the sides.
I see an A-10 Warthog behind that plow blade, using the 20mm cannon
for clearing the thicker ice.
--
Life is an escalator:
You can move forward or backward;
you can not remain still.
-- Patricia Russell-McCloud
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 06:15:08 -0700 (PDT), "William F. Adams
([email protected])" <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Aug 27, 1:49 am, Roy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Buy a copy of Making Traditional Wooden Planes by John Whelan.
>>
>> This is the best book on planemaking I have seen so far, but this is not a
>> frenzied field of publishing. It provides info on making many types of planes
>> beyond the basic Krenov style covered in the Finck/Krenov book. Whelan uses b&w
>> drawings/plans, dark photos plus building comments for around 18 types of
>> planes, including three plough planes. Starts with a Krenov style plane and
>> increases in complexity and difficulty from there. I would love to buy a copy
>> of this book with better illustrations, but it doesn't exist.
>>
>> I would suggest you have a set of plough cutters, preferably the same maker, or
>> at least with the same angle on them before you start. There are 2-3 types of
>> cutters, and you need a different wedge for each one because of the difference
>> in angles.
>>
>> You could probably buy a working plough plane with maybe a cutter off the bay
>> for about $20, even less, or a lot more, depending on what you want. I've found
>> a few a cheap as a gloatable $6 at fleas. Cutters usually sell separate from
>> the planes and run from $20-60+ a set.
>>
>> Amazon claims they have 8 books left in stock as of this posting. Lee Valley
>> stocks the book also. You'll have to do your own Google search for online
>> plans. They are out there, along with a couple of very good sites that cover
>> building other types of traditional planes. Watch the line wrap on this URL:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Making-Traditional-Wooden-Planes-Whelan/dp/1879...
>
>Thanks!
>
>I'll have to kick this around a bit --- not winning on the auctions
>I'm bidding at on the Extremely Big AuctionY site, and not having any
>brilliant insights into designing one to make, nor finding any plans
>on-line.
William, if you're looking for an iron set for a #45 style plane, let
me know. I have a unique Jaques/Knight set for sale. It was cryoed
and heat treated/tempered by Steve's regular companies.
--
The problem with borrowing money from China is
that thirty minutes later, you feel broke again.
--Steve Bridges as Obama