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16/01/2005 8:22 AM

Planemaker's Float

I recently ran across several references to a 'planemaker's float' as
a useful tool for making wooden planes. DAGS turned up a number of
references and even an article on how to make them, but nothing
describing how to use one.

The tool itself is a triangular-shaped rasp with coarse teeth and it
is apparently used to tune up the throat on a plane. But what exactly
does it do and how?

--RC
"Sometimes history doesn't repeat itself. It just yells
'can't you remember anything I've told you?' and lets
fly with a club.
-- John W. Cambell Jr.


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Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2005 8:22 AM

16/01/2005 3:41 PM


>I recently ran across several references to a 'planemaker's float' as
> a useful tool for making wooden planes. DAGS turned up a number of
> references and even an article on how to make them, but nothing
> describing how to use one.
>
> The tool itself is a triangular-shaped rasp with coarse teeth and it
> is apparently used to tune up the throat on a plane. But what exactly
> does it do and how?
>
> --RC
> "Sometimes history doesn't repeat itself. It just yells
> 'can't you remember anything I've told you?' and lets
> fly with a club.
> -- John W. Cambell Jr.


Got the link to the article for making them? I DAGS-ded for quite a while and couldn't find it...

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Di

Dave in Fairfax

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2005 8:22 AM

16/01/2005 9:11 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> Thanks Steve, but let me rephrase the question since I don't think I
> was clear the first time.
>
> What is the use of a float in making wooden planes? Where do you use
> them (throat, etc.?) and why a special tool? The stuff I found
> indicates you can get by without them but they make life easier.

You know that cut out area that the wedge fits down into on a
woodie? A triangular float makes it easier to cut that area out.
You can do it with a chisel, but I've seen it done with a float
and it looked a lot easier.

Dave in Fairfax
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SK

Steve Knight

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2005 8:22 AM

16/01/2005 1:14 PM


>Thanks Steve, but let me rephrase the question since I don't think I
>was clear the first time.
>
>What is the use of a float in making wooden planes? Where do you use
>them (throat, etc.?) and why a special tool? The stuff I found
>indicates you can get by without them but they make life easier.

I had thought the question a bit odd (G) they are used on the inside. to adjust
the bed and the cheek slots and other parts. they are designed to work well on
endgrain.
they cut faster then most files. but if you get some course files sharpened at
Boggs they will work well too. you can also make scrapers out of old files. just
cut an end at 90 degrees and flatten it and all 4 sides it will scrape well.

--
Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes
Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices
See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions.

r

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2005 8:22 AM

16/01/2005 8:01 PM

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:25:02 -0800, Steve Knight
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:22:08 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>I recently ran across several references to a 'planemaker's float' as
>>a useful tool for making wooden planes. DAGS turned up a number of
>>references and even an article on how to make them, but nothing
>>describing how to use one.
>>
>>The tool itself is a triangular-shaped rasp with coarse teeth and it
>>is apparently used to tune up the throat on a plane. But what exactly
>>does it do and how?
>>
>it works just like a file. that's all it is but with really coarse teeth. they
>come in different shapes to get into different area's. but they work just like a
>file does but quicker.

Thanks Steve, but let me rephrase the question since I don't think I
was clear the first time.

What is the use of a float in making wooden planes? Where do you use
them (throat, etc.?) and why a special tool? The stuff I found
indicates you can get by without them but they make life easier.

--RC
"Sometimes history doesn't repeat itself. It just yells
'can't you remember anything I've told you?' and lets
fly with a club.
-- John W. Cambell Jr.

Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2005 8:22 AM

17/01/2005 1:20 PM


> There are two of them that I found.
> The short form is:
> http://home.insightbb.com/~sepost/skew_floats.html
>
> The more comprehensive version is at:
> http://www.norsewoodsmith.com/img/float/Floats.htm
> and its sequels.
>
>
A couple of awesome sites! Thanks very much. I have been very intrigued
at the idea of making my own router replacers and dado and groove cutters.
One important type to have is skew angled shoulder planes, no one makes
them currently, neither Steve nor Gordon and if C&W does, too high on the
ol' $$$. So far I've bought three.

--
Alex
cravdraa - at - yahoo - dot - comment
http://www.e-sword.net/ (free excellent windows bible)

r

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2005 8:22 AM

16/01/2005 10:02 PM

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:11:28 GMT, Dave in Fairfax <[email protected]>
wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> Thanks Steve, but let me rephrase the question since I don't think I
>> was clear the first time.
>>
>> What is the use of a float in making wooden planes? Where do you use
>> them (throat, etc.?) and why a special tool? The stuff I found
>> indicates you can get by without them but they make life easier.
>
>You know that cut out area that the wedge fits down into on a
>woodie? A triangular float makes it easier to cut that area out.
>You can do it with a chisel, but I've seen it done with a float
>and it looked a lot easier.
>
>Dave in Fairfax

Thanks Dave. I think I see why planemakers go to the trouble of
getting/making floats now.

--RC

"Sometimes history doesn't repeat itself. It just yells
'can't you remember anything I've told you?' and lets
fly with a club.
-- John W. Cambell Jr.

r

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2005 8:22 AM

17/01/2005 4:39 AM

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:41:24 -0800, "AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>>I recently ran across several references to a 'planemaker's float' as
>> a useful tool for making wooden planes. DAGS turned up a number of
>> references and even an article on how to make them, but nothing
>> describing how to use one.
>>
>> The tool itself is a triangular-shaped rasp with coarse teeth and it
>> is apparently used to tune up the throat on a plane. But what exactly
>> does it do and how?
>>
>> --RC
>> "Sometimes history doesn't repeat itself. It just yells
>> 'can't you remember anything I've told you?' and lets
>> fly with a club.
>> -- John W. Cambell Jr.
>
>
>Got the link to the article for making them? I DAGS-ded for quite a while and couldn't find it...

There are two of them that I found.
The short form is:
http://home.insightbb.com/~sepost/skew_floats.html

The more comprehensive version is at:
http://www.norsewoodsmith.com/img/float/Floats.htm
and its sequels.

--RC


"Sometimes history doesn't repeat itself. It just yells
'can't you remember anything I've told you?' and lets
fly with a club.
-- John W. Cambell Jr.

r

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2005 8:22 AM

16/01/2005 10:01 PM

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:14:05 -0800, Steve Knight
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>>Thanks Steve, but let me rephrase the question since I don't think I
>>was clear the first time.
>>
>>What is the use of a float in making wooden planes? Where do you use
>>them (throat, etc.?) and why a special tool? The stuff I found
>>indicates you can get by without them but they make life easier.
>
>I had thought the question a bit odd (G) they are used on the inside. to adjust
>the bed and the cheek slots and other parts. they are designed to work well on
>endgrain.
> they cut faster then most files. but if you get some course files sharpened at
>Boggs they will work well too. you can also make scrapers out of old files. just
>cut an end at 90 degrees and flatten it and all 4 sides it will scrape well.

Thanks Steve. That explains it.

--RC

"Sometimes history doesn't repeat itself. It just yells
'can't you remember anything I've told you?' and lets
fly with a club.
-- John W. Cambell Jr.

SK

Steve Knight

in reply to [email protected] on 16/01/2005 8:22 AM

16/01/2005 10:25 AM

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:22:08 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>I recently ran across several references to a 'planemaker's float' as
>a useful tool for making wooden planes. DAGS turned up a number of
>references and even an article on how to make them, but nothing
>describing how to use one.
>
>The tool itself is a triangular-shaped rasp with coarse teeth and it
>is apparently used to tune up the throat on a plane. But what exactly
>does it do and how?
>
it works just like a file. that's all it is but with really coarse teeth. they
come in different shapes to get into different area's. but they work just like a
file does but quicker.

--
Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes
Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices
See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions.


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