Jay Pique wrote:
> Has anyone here made their own stress skin panels?
>
> I've just done a microgoogle and it appears you could glue a sheet of
> eps between osb, slip it into a vacuum bag and have yourself a SIP. Am
> I missing anything?
>
> JP
OK.
The big question:
Why do you want to do this?
Do you have something against manufactured SIPS?
> > Do you have something against manufactured SIPS?
>
> No. I've just heard they're very expensive.
>
> JP
I think quite the contrary, I looked VERY hard at using them for a new
shop that goes up in about 3 more weeks.
After you factor in the labor savings since they go up so fast, the
superior insulation qualities, and that you can just paint the inside
in some locals, or put drywall on if that's required, you are pretty
much done.
Locally I could NOT find a builder that knew what i was talking about,
and especially one that would build with them. I received 4 quotes
from manufactures, not one of them had a builder in my area.
I also wrote the www.sips.org, and never heard from a builder.
Alan
arw01 wrote:
> > > Do you have something against manufactured SIPS?
> >
> > No. I've just heard they're very expensive.
> >
> > JP
>
> I think quite the contrary, I looked VERY hard at using them for a new
> shop that goes up in about 3 more weeks.
>
> After you factor in the labor savings since they go up so fast, the
> superior insulation qualities, and that you can just paint the inside
> in some locals, or put drywall on if that's required, you are pretty
> much done.
>
> Locally I could NOT find a builder that knew what i was talking about,
> and especially one that would build with them. I received 4 quotes
> from manufactures, not one of them had a builder in my area.
>
> I also wrote the www.sips.org, and never heard from a builder.
>
In New Jersey, at Bull's Island Recreation area, they built a new
Visitor Center from SIPS a couple of years ago.
Perhaps you could find out what builder they used?
arw01 wrote:
> > > Do you have something against manufactured SIPS?
> >
> > No. I've just heard they're very expensive.
> >
> > JP
>
> I think quite the contrary, I looked VERY hard at using them for a new
> shop that goes up in about 3 more weeks.
>
> After you factor in the labor savings since they go up so fast, the
> superior insulation qualities, and that you can just paint the inside
> in some locals, or put drywall on if that's required, you are pretty
> much done.
Yes, that's the appeal. I'm assuming those cost savings will ensue
whether I buy them or build them myself. Is that a valid assumption?
JP
Lee Michaels wrote:
> "Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Has anyone here made their own stress skin panels?
> >
> > I've just done a microgoogle and it appears you could glue a sheet of
> > eps between osb, slip it into a vacuum bag and have yourself a SIP. Am
> > I missing anything?
> >
>
> The engineering approvals, etc required for construction...
Isn't a SIP a SIP? Or does each individual brand need to be tested and
sanctioned by some authority? That's a good question you ask.
JP
Joe Brophy wrote:
> I have seen some SIPs that had drywall as the inside panel
> so it was ready to tape after being nailed in place.
That's a great way to do it. It's gotta be a time saver.
> The APA (American Plywood Assoc., I think..) publishes pdf
> documents that contain all the info required to build and
> test your own panels as well as box beams, site built
> gluelams, etc. Most of the info is free. Joe.
Thanks, Joe.
JP
responding to
http://www.homeownershub.com/woodworking/How-to-make-SIPS-or-stress-skin-panels-111253-.htm
jmnpjn wrote:
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Very difficult to find info as most producers consider what they have as
"propitiatory" lol. Give thought as to how you want the panels to tongue
and groove together, research what foam is suited to sandwich between what
medium you want. Doesn't have to be same on front and back sides. Come up
with a jig to produce all panels the same +/- 1/16 inch. Not necessary to
vacuum panels together tho that would be one way. stack and weight panels
until cured or squeeze vertically.
"arw01" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> I also wrote the www.sips.org, and never heard from a
> builder.
>
> Alan
I went and looked. It would be nice if someone referring to a
relatively new product would call it by name the first reference
to it instead of xyz or whatever.
BTW, I never got to the specs at that site because they asked for
my agreement to a long list of crap and I left. I get enough
spam. :)
On 24 Jul 2006 11:09:06 -0700, "Jay Pique"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>arw01 wrote:
>> > > Do you have something against manufactured SIPS?
>> >
>> > No. I've just heard they're very expensive.
>> >
>> > JP
>>
>> I think quite the contrary, I looked VERY hard at using them for a new
>> shop that goes up in about 3 more weeks.
>>
>> After you factor in the labor savings since they go up so fast, the
>> superior insulation qualities, and that you can just paint the inside
>> in some locals, or put drywall on if that's required, you are pretty
>> much done.
>
>Yes, that's the appeal. I'm assuming those cost savings will ensue
>whether I buy them or build them myself. Is that a valid assumption?
>
>JP
I have seen some SIPs that had drywall as the inside panel
so it was ready to tape after being nailed in place.
The APA (American Plywood Assoc., I think..) publishes pdf
documents that contain all the info required to build and
test your own panels as well as box beams, site built
gluelams, etc. Most of the info is free. Joe.
"arw01" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I think quite the contrary, I looked VERY hard at using them for a new
>shop that goes up in about 3 more weeks.
Agree
I was wondering if they could be used to build a small
and simple A frame?
think so?
"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Has anyone here made their own stress skin panels?
>
> I've just done a microgoogle and it appears you could glue a sheet of
> eps between osb, slip it into a vacuum bag and have yourself a SIP. Am
> I missing anything?
>
The engineering approvals, etc required for construction?