As some of you know, I used tea for stain before. Worked out quite
nicely too.
The last few days I've been redoing a rifle stock, using a tea
stain. Two bags, brewed down to about a quarter of a cup. Been doing
nicely, except taking longer than I wanted to get as dark as I wanted.
Each coat would only darken a bit, but it didn't take a huge amount of
time for them to try. So, tried a bit of latex paint in the tea. No,
not yellow. Red. Tried it on a piece of scrap wood first, and no, it
wasn't anywhere near what I was after. Might look OK for something else
tho.
So, brewed up another batch of tea, 20 minutes this time. Ah, went
on a bit darker. But, still not as dark as I was after. So, looked for
some food coloring. Apparently, I'd already used all of that in
vegetable oil, for finishing. Which worked quite well, thank you - I've
got a rocking chair, finished 6-7 years go with vegetable oil, that the
finish has held up quite well. However, I did find some unsweetened
Koolaid, cherry flavor. "Oh no", you cry, "he didn't actually put
Koolaid in that tea, and then put it on that stock". You better believe
it, Bunky.
A test on scrap came out looking great, as I was sure it would -
actually it looked even better than I'd expected. The first coat on the
stock darkened it more than just the straight tea had. Gave it a
slight, very nice, reddish cast. It looked so good with the second
coat, I decided to leave well enough alone. It's got a nice, slightly
reddish, color, which should look even better once I put a finish on.
I'm just waiting overnight for the last coat to dry.
Possibly, it would have looked even better if I'd used black
cherry, but once I got past the lemonade flavor, and found the cherry, I
never even thought about looking firther. Anyway, I'm satisfied with it
as is.
I'm pondering now whether to get the paste wax from the shop
tomorrow, it's rainy just now, and supposed to rain more tomorrow, Or,
stay in, and use vegetable (cooking) oil for the finish.
Once I get the final finish on, and get it back together again,
I'll take a picture. I've got a web page recording what I've done, and
I'll put it up there, then post the link later.
Damn. I just thought. What I should have done, was ask here
first, if the Koolaid would work. That probably would have generated a
nice lengthy thread. LMAO
JOAT
The Truth Shall Set Ye Frea
J T wrote:
> As some of you know, I used tea for stain before. Worked out quite
> nicely too.
> The last few days I've been redoing a rifle stock, using a tea
> stain. Two bags, brewed down to about a quarter of a cup. Been doing
> nicely, except taking longer than I wanted to get as dark as I wanted.
> Each coat would only darken a bit, but it didn't take a huge amount of
> time for them to try. So, tried a bit of latex paint in the tea. No,
> not yellow. Red. Tried it on a piece of scrap wood first, and no, it
> wasn't anywhere near what I was after. Might look OK for something else
> tho.
>
> So, brewed up another batch of tea, 20 minutes this time. Ah, went
> on a bit darker. But, still not as dark as I was after. So, looked for
> some food coloring. Apparently, I'd already used all of that in
> vegetable oil, for finishing. Which worked quite well, thank you - I've
> got a rocking chair, finished 6-7 years go with vegetable oil, that the
> finish has held up quite well. However, I did find some unsweetened
> Koolaid, cherry flavor. "Oh no", you cry, "he didn't actually put
> Koolaid in that tea, and then put it on that stock". You better believe
> it, Bunky.
>
> A test on scrap came out looking great, as I was sure it would -
> actually it looked even better than I'd expected. The first coat on the
> stock darkened it more than just the straight tea had. Gave it a
> slight, very nice, reddish cast. It looked so good with the second
> coat, I decided to leave well enough alone. It's got a nice, slightly
> reddish, color, which should look even better once I put a finish on.
> I'm just waiting overnight for the last coat to dry.
.
>
> Damn. I just thought. What I should have done, was ask here
> first, if the Koolaid would work. That probably would have generated a
> nice lengthy thread. LMAO
You might try a nice strong brew of coffee. A friend of mine used that
some years ago, and it seemed to work quite well. I don't recall, if I
ever knew, just how many passes he had to make, but the coffee I
remember was strong enough you wouldn't have wanted to drink it.
Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 2:11am (EDT-3) [email protected] (Charlie=A0Self)
did speakth:
You might try a nice strong brew of coffee. A friend of mine used that
some years ago, and it seemed to work quite well. I don't recall, if I
ever knew, just how many passes he had to make, but the coffee I
remember was strong enough you wouldn't have wanted to drink it.
Nope, tried that some time back. By the time I got it to where it
had enough coats to look good, turned out it took way too long to dry.
Checked my test piece a few weeks later, the last test still wasn't
totally dry. The tea might not go on as dark, but it dries enough in an
hour or so to put on another coat - the coffee had to dry considerably
longer. The stock dried enough overnight to put on the finish. Coffee,
as a stain, does look good, but the drying time is too much of a PITA
for me. Eventually, I may try coffee stain again some time, but I kinda
doubt it.
JOAT
The Truth Shall Set Ye Fren
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 09:04:22 -0400, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:
>Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 2:11am (EDT-3) [email protected] (Charlie Self)
>did speakth:
>You might try a nice strong brew of coffee. A friend of mine used that
>some years ago, and it seemed to work quite well. I don't recall, if I
>ever knew, just how many passes he had to make, but the coffee I
>remember was strong enough you wouldn't have wanted to drink it.
>
> Nope, tried that some time back. By the time I got it to where it
>had enough coats to look good, turned out it took way too long to dry.
>Checked my test piece a few weeks later, the last test still wasn't
>totally dry. The tea might not go on as dark, but it dries enough in an
>hour or so to put on another coat - the coffee had to dry considerably
>longer. The stock dried enough overnight to put on the finish. Coffee,
>as a stain, does look good, but the drying time is too much of a PITA
>for me. Eventually, I may try coffee stain again some time, but I kinda
>doubt it.
>
>
>
>JOAT
>The Truth Shall Set Ye Fren
if you are just wanting to get it darker, consider iron and vinegar.
man does that stuff work.
if you're wanting to get it red, consider artist's oils on linseed.
any color you want, as dark as you want.
Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 2:48pm (EDT-3) [email protected] doth say:
if you are just wanting to get it darker, consider iron and vinegar. man
does that stuff work.
if you're wanting to get it red, consider artist's oils on linseed. any
color you want, as dark as you want.
Iron and vinegar, too messy. Wrong color anyway.
No, oils and linseed wouldn't give the effect I wanted, and need
something nasty to clean up anyway.
JOAT
The Truth Shall Set Ye Fren
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:21:03 -0700, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:06:09 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]>
> scribbled:
>>Nope ... as in all things to do with finishing, _application_ is the most
>>important step. Drink the wine, then pee on the piece, repeatedly, for that
>>for the real polyurinestain effect.
> I stand corrected, let's go pee on JOAT's gun stock. The
> polyurinestain should piss off Larry too.
If you've got poly in your urine, you need to go see a doctor right
away, and consider wearing a respirator when you finish.
On 11 Oct 2005 14:08:43 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:21:03 -0700, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:06:09 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]>
>> scribbled:
>
>>>Nope ... as in all things to do with finishing, _application_ is the most
>>>important step. Drink the wine, then pee on the piece, repeatedly, for that
>>>for the real polyurinestain effect.
>
>> I stand corrected, let's go pee on JOAT's gun stock. The
>> polyurinestain should piss off Larry too.
>
>If you've got poly in your urine, you need to go see a doctor right
>away, and consider wearing a respirator when you finish.
or when you pee...
: )
"Luigi Zanasi" wrote in message ...
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 06:34:35 -0500, "Swingman"
> scribbled:
>
> >"Charlie Self" wrote in message
> >
> >> > Damn. I just thought. What I should have done, was ask here
> >> > first, if the Koolaid would work. That probably would have generated
a
> >> > nice lengthy thread. LMAO
> >>
> >> You might try a nice strong brew of coffee. A friend of mine used that
> >> some years ago, and it seemed to work quite well. I don't recall, if I
> >> ever knew, just how many passes he had to make, but the coffee I
> >> remember was strong enough you wouldn't have wanted to drink it.
> >
> >Wine ... a good, full bodied, California red works very well and you
enjoy
> >finishing much more.
> Nope. Colour bleaches out eventually. Not even with "teinturier"
> (stainer) grapes. Better to drink the stuff or put it in the vinegar
> barrel. DAMHIKT.
Nope ... as in all things to do with finishing, _application_ is the most
important step. Drink the wine, then pee on the piece, repeatedly, for that
for the real polyurinestain effect.
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Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 3:06pm (EDT-1) [email protected] (Swingman) did instruct
us:
Nope ... as in all things to do with finishing, _application_ is the
most important step. Drink the wine, then pee on the piece, repeatedly,
for that for the real polyurinestain effect.
OK, just let us know if you're going to suppy the wine, or if it's
BYOB. Then we'll set a date, everyone will meet at your place, get
drunk, and pee on your furniture.
JOAT
The Truth Shall Set Ye Fren
"Charlie Self" wrote in message
> > Damn. I just thought. What I should have done, was ask here
> > first, if the Koolaid would work. That probably would have generated a
> > nice lengthy thread. LMAO
>
> You might try a nice strong brew of coffee. A friend of mine used that
> some years ago, and it seemed to work quite well. I don't recall, if I
> ever knew, just how many passes he had to make, but the coffee I
> remember was strong enough you wouldn't have wanted to drink it.
Wine ... a good, full bodied, California red works very well and you enjoy
finishing much more.
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Last update: 9/17/05
Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 6:34am (EDT-1) [email protected] (Swingman) did sayeth:
Wine ... a good, full bodied, California red works very well and you
enjoy finishing much more.
I take it you start the drinking first, and then call the spillage
"stain"?
JOAT
The Truth Shall Set Ye Fren
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 06:34:35 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]>
scribbled:
>"Charlie Self" wrote in message
>
>> > Damn. I just thought. What I should have done, was ask here
>> > first, if the Koolaid would work. That probably would have generated a
>> > nice lengthy thread. LMAO
>>
>> You might try a nice strong brew of coffee. A friend of mine used that
>> some years ago, and it seemed to work quite well. I don't recall, if I
>> ever knew, just how many passes he had to make, but the coffee I
>> remember was strong enough you wouldn't have wanted to drink it.
>
>Wine ... a good, full bodied, California red works very well and you enjoy
>finishing much more.
Nope. Colour bleaches out eventually. Not even with "teinturier"
(stainer) grapes. Better to drink the stuff or put it in the vinegar
barrel. DAMHIKT.
Luigi
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:06:09 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]>
scribbled:
>"Luigi Zanasi" wrote in message ...
>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 06:34:35 -0500, "Swingman"
>> scribbled:
<snip>
>> >Wine ... a good, full bodied, California red works very well and you
>enjoy
>> >finishing much more.
>> Nope. Colour bleaches out eventually. Not even with "teinturier"
>> (stainer) grapes. Better to drink the stuff or put it in the vinegar
>> barrel. DAMHIKT.
>
>Nope ... as in all things to do with finishing, _application_ is the most
>important step. Drink the wine, then pee on the piece, repeatedly, for that
>for the real polyurinestain effect.
I stand corrected, let's go pee on JOAT's gun stock. The
polyurinestain should piss off Larry too.
Luigi
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Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 10:21pm (EDT-3) [email protected] (Luigi=A0Zanasi)
doth burble:
I stand corrected, let's go pee on JOAT's gun stock. The polyurinestain
should piss off Larry too.
Did I mention my chainsaw? With the dull chain? I also got a good
deal on a bolt cutter awhile back.
JOAT
The Truth Shall Set Ye Fren