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Mike O.

24/05/2008 12:39 PM

Grinder?

I'm looking for a little help finding a decent 2 wheel grinder.
I'm looking for something to use around the house in the 6" or 8"
size. Most I can find locally ($120 or below) either have a very low
amp motor or vibrate so badly they seem unusable. Since I may have
to spend a little more and order online I thought I'd ask if there is
a brand/model that anyone here might recommend.
Thanks for any suggestions.


Mike O.


This topic has 14 replies

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FrozenNorth

in reply to Mike O. on 24/05/2008 12:39 PM

25/05/2008 12:12 AM

B A R R Y wrote:

> On Sat, 24 May 2008 16:45:55 -0700, mac davis
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Wow!
>>I know Baldor makes good motors and stuff, but $360 for a 1 speed, 6"
>>grinder with 3/4" wheel width?
>
> Mine was ~ $250, 3-4 years ago.
>
> I guess it's appreciated!
>
> My Canadian-made General cabinet saw will easily go for more than I
> paid for it in 2002, as well!
>
Have you checked the current $CAN to $US exchange rate, you probably got a
deal back then, but the dollars are near par right now, I believe the $CAN
is higher, or was at one point last week.

> Do Chiwanese tools do the same?
>


--
Froz...

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to Mike O. on 24/05/2008 12:39 PM

26/05/2008 5:52 PM

On May 24, 4:15 pm, "Paul Gilbert" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Please notice that the grinder above does not include the stand.
> This is the grinder I bought after I got into turning. I use it for my
> turning chisels, but I use a 3450 rpm grinder with the grey wheels for
> routing stuff like grinding the lawn mower blade. I bought the 3450 Delta
> grinder off of Craig's list for $30.
>
> If a grinder vibrates it is because the wheels are not round. Get a good
> diamond dressing tool and you can take the vibration out of the grinder. If
> they are so badly out of balance that won't work, throw them away and buy
> some good wheels.

The 120 wheel that came with mine is hanging from a nail
on a tool board. Replaced it with a medium buff for stropping.

Ring test the wheel(s) before installation -- set them on
the end of a dowel and snap with a fingernail. Ringing
sound means the wheel is good, dead sound means
it's cracked and liable to disintegrate at speed.

Nn

Nova

in reply to Mike O. on 24/05/2008 12:39 PM

24/05/2008 10:53 PM

Mike O. wrote:
> I'm looking for a little help finding a decent 2 wheel grinder.
> I'm looking for something to use around the house in the 6" or 8"
> size. Most I can find locally ($120 or below) either have a very low
> amp motor or vibrate so badly they seem unusable. Since I may have
> to spend a little more and order online I thought I'd ask if there is
> a brand/model that anyone here might recommend.
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
>
> Mike O.

If you want about the best:

http://www.baldor.com/products/detail.asp?1=1&page=1&catalogonly=1&catalog=632E&product=Grinders%2FBuffers&family=Grinders%7Cvw%5FGrindBuff%5FGrinders&rpm=1800&wheelsize=+6+inches

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]

Al

"Artemus" <[email protected]>

in reply to Mike O. on 24/05/2008 12:39 PM

24/05/2008 2:27 PM

I'll second that. I have one and have no complaints
about it at all. They occasionally go on sale for $74.99
if you're not in a hurry to buy.
Art

<[email protected]> wrote ...
>
> Check this one out:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/j6ewh
>

MO

Mike O.

in reply to Mike O. on 24/05/2008 12:39 PM

25/05/2008 3:06 PM

On Sat, 24 May 2008 12:39:37 -0500, Mike O. <[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm looking for a little help finding a decent 2 wheel grinder.

Thanks for your help guys!

Mike O.

GO

"Greg O"

in reply to Mike O. on 24/05/2008 12:39 PM

25/05/2008 3:21 AM

"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Wow!
> I know Baldor makes good motors and stuff, but $360 for a 1 speed, 6"
> grinder
> with 3/4" wheel width?
>
>

Same Baldor I have in the shop. I paid about $150 for mine, but that was 25
years ago!
Greg

nn

in reply to Mike O. on 24/05/2008 12:39 PM

24/05/2008 11:41 AM

On May 24, 12:39 pm, Mike O. <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm looking for a little help finding a decent 2 wheel grinder.
> I'm looking for something to use around the house in the 6" or 8"
> size. Most I can find locally ($120 or below) either have a very low
> amp motor or vibrate so badly they seem unusable. Since I may have
> to spend a little more and order online I thought I'd ask if there is
> a brand/model that anyone here might recommend.
> Thanks for any suggestions.

Check this one out:

http://tinyurl.com/j6ewh

I liked mine so well I bought another. They come with soft white
wheels on them (friable) so they work well for all kinds of
sharpening. They used to come with one side 60 grit and one 120 grit.

The wheels are pretty good quality, but not Norton. They last well
though, and properly dressed mine do a great job.

I think everyone I know in the woodturning community has this grinder
as it has proven to be a good performer. Plus, at the price of good
wheels by themselves, you can almost look at the grinder as a "gimme"
since you get two.

Robert

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to Mike O. on 24/05/2008 12:39 PM

24/05/2008 8:06 PM

On Sat, 24 May 2008 16:45:55 -0700, mac davis
<[email protected]> wrote:


>Wow!
>I know Baldor makes good motors and stuff, but $360 for a 1 speed, 6" grinder
>with 3/4" wheel width?

Mine was ~ $250, 3-4 years ago.

I guess it's appreciated!

My Canadian-made General cabinet saw will easily go for more than I
paid for it in 2002, as well!

Do Chiwanese tools do the same?

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** http://www.bburke.com/woodworking.html **
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LH

"Lowell Holmes"

in reply to Mike O. on 24/05/2008 12:39 PM

24/05/2008 9:03 PM


"Mike O." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm looking for a little help finding a decent 2 wheel grinder.
> I'm looking for something to use around the house in the 6" or 8"
> size. Most I can find locally ($120 or below) either have a very low
> amp motor or vibrate so badly they seem unusable. Since I may have
> to spend a little more and order online I thought I'd ask if there is
> a brand/model that anyone here might recommend.
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
>
> Mike O.
I have the inexpensive 6" variable speed Delta bench grinder and I find it
to be good. I crowned the stones in accordance with the article in FWW and I
can grind a plane iron or chisel quickly fee-hand without overheating the
edge like they say in the article. IIRC, the grinder was about $60 at Lowes.
There is minimal vibration.

md

mac davis

in reply to Mike O. on 24/05/2008 12:39 PM

24/05/2008 4:45 PM

On Sat, 24 May 2008 22:53:52 GMT, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:

>Mike O. wrote:
>> I'm looking for a little help finding a decent 2 wheel grinder.
>> I'm looking for something to use around the house in the 6" or 8"
>> size. Most I can find locally ($120 or below) either have a very low
>> amp motor or vibrate so badly they seem unusable. Since I may have
>> to spend a little more and order online I thought I'd ask if there is
>> a brand/model that anyone here might recommend.
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>>
>>
>> Mike O.
>
>If you want about the best:
>
>http://www.baldor.com/products/detail.asp?1=1&page=1&catalogonly=1&catalog=632E&product=Grinders%2FBuffers&family=Grinders%7Cvw%5FGrindBuff%5FGrinders&rpm=1800&wheelsize=+6+inches

Wow!
I know Baldor makes good motors and stuff, but $360 for a 1 speed, 6" grinder
with 3/4" wheel width?

Sure makes the chi-wan-ese one at Woodcraft look like a great deal..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

AB

Andrew Barss

in reply to Mike O. on 24/05/2008 12:39 PM

25/05/2008 2:52 AM

Paul Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote:
: Please notice that the grinder above does not include the stand.
: This is the grinder I bought after I got into turning. I use it for my
: turning chisels, but I use a 3450 rpm grinder with the grey wheels for
: routing stuff like grinding the lawn mower blade. I bought the 3450 Delta
: grinder off of Craig's list for $30.

: If a grinder vibrates it is because the wheels are not round.


There's another source of vibration, which is the wheels not being totally
perpendicular to the arbor, which can be partially due to the way the
flange fits on the wheel.. I had an early
version of the Woodcraft grinder, and got rid of most of the vibration by
rotating the wheel with respect to the flanges. It took a while, a lot of trial
and error, but worked well.

I now have a more recent version of the Woodcraft grinder, which
had very little vibration out
of the box, so this tweak wasn't needed.


-- Andy BArss

PG

"Paul Gilbert" <[email protected]>

in reply to Mike O. on 24/05/2008 12:39 PM

24/05/2008 3:15 PM

Please notice that the grinder above does not include the stand.
This is the grinder I bought after I got into turning. I use it for my
turning chisels, but I use a 3450 rpm grinder with the grey wheels for
routing stuff like grinding the lawn mower blade. I bought the 3450 Delta
grinder off of Craig's list for $30.

If a grinder vibrates it is because the wheels are not round. Get a good
diamond dressing tool and you can take the vibration out of the grinder. If
they are so badly out of balance that won't work, throw them away and buy
some good wheels.

Paul Gilbert
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On May 24, 12:39 pm, Mike O. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I'm looking for a little help finding a decent 2 wheel grinder.
>> I'm looking for something to use around the house in the 6" or 8"
>> size. Most I can find locally ($120 or below) either have a very low
>> amp motor or vibrate so badly they seem unusable. Since I may have
>> to spend a little more and order online I thought I'd ask if there is
>> a brand/model that anyone here might recommend.
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> Check this one out:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/j6ewh
>
> I liked mine so well I bought another. They come with soft white
> wheels on them (friable) so they work well for all kinds of
> sharpening. They used to come with one side 60 grit and one 120 grit.
>
> The wheels are pretty good quality, but not Norton. They last well
> though, and properly dressed mine do a great job.
>
> I think everyone I know in the woodturning community has this grinder
> as it has proven to be a good performer. Plus, at the price of good
> wheels by themselves, you can almost look at the grinder as a "gimme"
> since you get two.
>
> Robert
>
>

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to Mike O. on 24/05/2008 12:39 PM

24/05/2008 7:51 PM

On Sat, 24 May 2008 21:03:06 GMT, "Lowell Holmes"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I have the inexpensive 6" variable speed Delta bench grinder and I find it
>to be good.

I had one of those that worked so well, I Freecycled it! <G>

I replaced it with a Baldor, and never looked back.

Yes, I know how to true and balance wheels. My guess is that the QC
on the cheaper grinders is suspect, so a few good ones and lots of bad
ones get shipped.

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** http://www.bburke.com/woodworking.html **
---------------------------------------------

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to Mike O. on 24/05/2008 12:39 PM

24/05/2008 7:59 PM

On Sat, 24 May 2008 22:53:52 GMT, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:

>Mike O. wrote:
>> I'm looking for a little help finding a decent 2 wheel grinder.
>> I'm looking for something to use around the house in the 6" or 8"
>> size. Most I can find locally ($120 or below) either have a very low
>> amp motor or vibrate so badly they seem unusable. Since I may have
>> to spend a little more and order online I thought I'd ask if there is
>> a brand/model that anyone here might recommend.
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>>
>>
>> Mike O.
>
>If you want about the best:
>
>http://www.baldor.com/products/detail.asp?1=1&page=1&catalogonly=1&catalog=632E&product=Grinders%2FBuffers&family=Grinders%7Cvw%5FGrindBuff%5FGrinders&rpm=1800&wheelsize=+6+inches


That looks like the one I have, except mine is gray and has a Rockwell
badge on it.

It was really made by Baldor but I sure didn't pay that much for it in
1973.



Regards,

Tom

Thos.J.Watson - Cabinetmaker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
www.home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1


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