Craftsman Radial Arm Saw Recall / Free Upgrade Kit

What was the number you call i recently bought one of these radial armsaws and found out the it need the upgrade guard..

On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 at 10:28:18 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote=
:
> I called Sears about the recall and they told me my saw wasn't affected (=
typical Sears BS) when I knew mine was. Called Emerson at 1-800-511-2628 an=
d had them run the model and serial number. Sure enough, they sent me the r=
etrofit kit which includes the new table parts. If they haven't accounted f=
or all of the saws affected, they have to honor your request. Sears will tr=
y and tell you the recall has ended, but it hasn't. Emerson will try and of=
fer you a $100 to send the carriage assembly back to them, but opt for the =
kit. I called them about a month ago and my retrofit kit got here yesterday=
and I've already gotten it installed. I have an electronic model and I was=
n't about to disable a perfectly good saw. Just some info for all you other=
woodworkers out there.

I call on Friday they said no more retrofit kits are available for my saw I=
have been using this saw for a long time and have had no issues with it so=
if they don't want to pay me it's value which to me is 500.00 as it makes =
me alot of money then it is on them if it does go to hell . Talked to my at=
torney he said they can't offer to fix just some and not all.

James,

Here's the link I used.

http://radialarmsawrecall.com/

It doesn't look like the 12-inch are included.

dss

I called Sears about the recall and they told me my saw wasn't affected (ty=
pical Sears BS) when I knew mine was. Called Emerson at 1-800-511-2628 and =
had them run the model and serial number. Sure enough, they sent me the ret=
rofit kit which includes the new table parts. If they haven't accounted for=
all of the saws affected, they have to honor your request. Sears will try =
and tell you the recall has ended, but it hasn't. Emerson will try and offe=
r you a $100 to send the carriage assembly back to them, but opt for the ki=
t. I called them about a month ago and my retrofit kit got here yesterday a=
nd I've already gotten it installed. I have an electronic model and I wasn'=
t about to disable a perfectly good saw. Just some info for all you other w=
oodworkers out there.

replying to kimosabe, jacques bein wrote:
> Craftsman Radial Arm Saw Recall
model 113.199200c
serie 4097.m0218


--
for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/woodworking/craftsman-radial-arm-saw-recall-free-upgrade-kit-526231-.htm

On 12/5/2016 7:25 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article <09b867d0-97aa-4c6b-a1e9-
> [email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> I call on Friday they said no more retrofit kits are available for my saw I have been using this saw for a long time and have had no issues with it so if they don't want to pay me it's value which to me is 500.00 as it makes me alot of money then it is on them if it does go to hell . Talked to my attorney he said they can't offer to fix just some and not all.
>
> The court has decided that they in fact _can_
> fix just some and not all, so good luck with
> that.
>


An attorney is going to tell you what ever you need to hear to continue
spending your money.

Got mine last year for a 20-year old saw. Only needed the serial
number and got it in a couple of weeks. Installed it this summer in a
couple of hours. It is of reasonable quality and makes the saw safer
and still very usable. The best part is it comes with a new 1" thick
table top.

Definitely worth doing.

dss

On Thursday, October 20, 2011 at 4:26:43 PM UTC-4, kimosabe wrote:
> This is old news for some guys. Sears will send you a free upgrade
> kit.
>
> Craftsman Radial Arm Saw Recall
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7emIOjHC_g
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgjxwvHf9To

just tried to call the 800-511-2628 number 6-19-2015. Worked earlier this week as Emerson RASrecall. But now says number is malfunctioning and Ridgid is making effort to correct problem by 22 June. Guess retrofit kits are no longer available. Bummer.

On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 10:40:54 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:45:22 -0700 (PDT), [email protected] wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, October 20, 2011 at 4:26:43 PM UTC-4, kimosabe wrote:
> >> This is old news for some guys. Sears will send you a free upgrade
> >> kit.
> >the new news is they are no longer sending a kit, instead you make the saw worthless by sending parts to the company and they will send you $100. Then you can buy a new one for $800, in otherwards you have been screwed.
>
> I got mine six or eight years ago and it's still in the box. ;-)
> Some day I'll put the RAS back together.

Do you want to sell it?

Does anyone know where I can get the upgrade kit from. I've just bought a rash and there stopped doing the kit in Feb apparently. I'm in the UK

On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 at 10:28:18 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote=
:
> I called Sears about the recall and they told me my saw wasn't affected (=
typical Sears BS) when I knew mine was. Called Emerson at 1-800-511-2628 an=
d had them run the model and serial number. Sure enough, they sent me the r=
etrofit kit which includes the new table parts. If they haven't accounted f=
or all of the saws affected, they have to honor your request. Sears will tr=
y and tell you the recall has ended, but it hasn't. Emerson will try and of=
fer you a $100 to send the carriage assembly back to them, but opt for the =
kit. I called them about a month ago and my retrofit kit got here yesterday=
and I've already gotten it installed. I have an electronic model and I was=
n't about to disable a perfectly good saw. Just some info for all you other=
woodworkers out there.

On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 12:45:34 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thursday, October 20, 2011 at 4:26:43 PM UTC-4, kimosabe wrote:
> > This is old news for some guys. Sears will send you a free upgrade
> > kit.
> the new news is they are no longer sending a kit, instead you make the saw worthless by sending parts to the company and they will send you $100. Then you can buy a new one for $800, in otherwards you have been screwed.

I don't think that is correct...I am pretty sure if your saw has the "T" pivot release lock handle, then it qualifies for the repair kit. It bears investigation I guess...

On 7/24/2016 2:35 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2011 at 4:26:43 PM UTC-4, kimosabe wrote:
>>> This is old news for some guys. Sears will send you a free
>>> upgrade kit.
>> the new news is they are no longer sending a kit, instead you make
>> the saw worthless by sending parts to the company and they will
>> send you $100. Then you can buy a new one for $800, in otherwards
>> you have been screwed.
>
> That was always the case for some models.


That's correct. My particular model was never eligible for the retrofit
kit like the others. In the end though, IF it is true that
Sears/Emerson Electric is no longer sending out the kits, to say one is
screwed is a rather ridiculous statement.

I'm not sure, but I'm reasonably certain that the retrofit offer has
been out there and fairly well published (and discussed) for at least
two decades, probably more. If you didn't take advantage of it, whose
fault is that?

OTOH, even though my RAS model was only ever eligible for the "turn in"
offer of $100, it still runs as well as it did when I bought it in the
early 70's. AFAIAC, it's one of the better Sears RAS that still had
some "beef" and, when properly set up and tuned was and is a great RAS.

The only thing the recall ever addressed was safety guard issues that,
again, are pretty much "non-issues" if you exercise the due care
required when using such tools.

Just my two cents.

On 2/2/2017 12:12 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 07:15:03 -0800 (PST), [email protected] wrote:
>
>> On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 10:40:54 PM UTC-5, [email protected]
>> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:45:22 -0700 (PDT), [email protected]
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2011 at 4:26:43 PM UTC-4, kimosabe
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> This is old news for some guys. Sears will send you a free
>>>>> upgrade kit.
>>>> the new news is they are no longer sending a kit, instead you
>>>> make the saw worthless by sending parts to the company and they
>>>> will send you $100. Then you can buy a new one for $800, in
>>>> otherwards you have been screwed.
>>>
>>> I got mine six or eight years ago and it's still in the box.
>>> ;-) Some day I'll put the RAS back together.
>>
>> Do you want to sell it?
>
> I had mine for over ten years and it's still in its box, too, but I
> don't think I'd sell it without the RAS.


Hmmmmmmmmm! There was the option of sending in the motor yoke (and
motor?) in a prepaid shipper and getting $100 back IIRC. Might try
going back to the well, so to speak, perhaps with a different name and
see if you can take advantage of Option B.

Then you'd have a kit available to sell.

Face it, RAS popularity is definitely waned. If it's working good, you
could probably get $100 to $125 for it without the modification. If you
modified it you could probably get the same $100 to $125. Sell the kit
for $75 and make some money. Just sayin'

My model was one that they NEVER made a kit for. My only option was to
sell them the yoke for $100 and dispose of the rest of the saw. Screw
that! It was and is a good solid saw that never gave me any problems
once I tuned it up. I can rip a 10' 1x or 2x using a good Freud rip
blade and come away with an edge that appears to have been run through a
jointer.

If you used the anti-kickback devices on the original as intended and
know what you're doing you'll have no problems. This whole thing comes
about with the government and lawyers (as usual) looking to design
safety devices to accommodate morons at the expense of the rest of us.

When I am king! ;)

-MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

>
> I wouldn't go that far.
> I have a table saw with a sled, a really good compound miter saw, and a
> radial arm saw.
>
> The RAS is set up on the workbench, ready to use at all times with
> dedicated dust collection in the hood and behind the fence. It's my
> "go-to" saw for quick, perfectly square, clean cuts on any length stock
> up to almost 16" wide and wider with a simply flip of the piece.
>
> I would not want to be without it because of how convenient it is in my
> shop, how great it cuts, and how it leaves virtually no saw dust in the
> air.
>
>

I need to fit some sort of dust collection to my RAS, but other than that
it's a great saw. It took several days to tune up, but it was worth it!
I get square and true cuts with very little effort.

This guide was very helpful:

http://www.johnsonphotographic.com/goodstuff/owwm/Adjusting_DeWalt_Radial
_Arm_Saws.pdf

If you don't have a DeWalt, don't despair. You'll likely see the same
concepts expressed differently on other saws. There has to be a way to
set the blade true to the fence and true to the table, the arm parallel
to the table and so on.

Puckdropper
--
http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking
A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst!

On 2/3/2017 11:36 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 2/3/17 11:08 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>> -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't go that far.
>>> I have a table saw with a sled, a really good compound miter saw, and a
>>> radial arm saw.


[snip]

> I don't know, man, but if you're into woodworking and making jigs and
> whatnot, then you probably already process the skills and mental
> fortitude to get one of these things all trued up.
> I spent a good day taking mine apart, cleaning and greasing the parts,
> putting the new (recall) parts on and getting everything square,
> parallel, and true. After that it was in better shape than new. Of
> course, I enjoy doing that kind of thing while listening to music or a
> game and having a beer or two. Beats watching reality TV. :-)

LOL! Having an impacted wisdom tooth removed without anesthetic beats
reality television.

As the guide pointed out, the RAS CAN be (in most instances) a great
tool if one takes the time to understand the adjustments, makes them,
and keeps the saw in good repair. I can only speak to my ca 1969
Craftsman RAS but once trued up it stayed true and is a great tool.

After mine was made Sears started getting cute with lotsa plastic,
digital readouts and I doubt (judging from the feel of those later
designs) that they were anywhere near as good as most of the earlier models.

On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:26:43 -0700 (PDT), kimosabe <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>This is old news for some guys. Sears will send you a free upgrade
>kit.
>
>Craftsman Radial Arm Saw Recall
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7emIOjHC_g
>
>
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgjxwvHf9To

Got mine a couple of months ago. They say it takes up to ten weeks but it was
less than two, IIRC. Still haven't opened the box, though.

On Thursday, October 20, 2011 at 4:26:43 PM UTC-4, kimosabe wrote:
> This is old news for some guys. Sears will send you a free upgrade
> kit.
>
> Craftsman Radial Arm Saw Recall
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7emIOjHC_g
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgjxwvHf9To

For what it's worth, I has a 9" Craftsman RAS stored away for possible resu=
rrection in the future. Got it VERY cheap in a yard sale. I just realized=
it was a candidate for the recall. I sent in the request in May, got the =
return box in June and the $100 check last week.

So, if your saw is a candidate and you no longer want it, you can still get=
the $s.

Bill


On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 11:18:21 AM UTC-4, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,=20
> [email protected] says...
> >=20
> > On 7/24/2016 2:35 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> > > In article <[email protected]>,
> > > [email protected] says...
> > >>
> > >> On Thursday, October 20, 2011 at 4:26:43 PM UTC-4, kimosabe wrote:
> > >>> This is old news for some guys. Sears will send you a free
> > >>> upgrade kit.
> > >> the new news is they are no longer sending a kit, instead you make
> > >> the saw worthless by sending parts to the company and they will
> > >> send you $100. Then you can buy a new one for $800, in otherwards
> > >> you have been screwed.
> > >
> > > That was always the case for some models.
> >=20
> >=20
> > That's correct. My particular model was never eligible for the retrofi=
t
> > kit like the others. In the end though, IF it is true that=20
> > Sears/Emerson Electric is no longer sending out the kits, to say one is=
=20
> > screwed is a rather ridiculous statement.
> >=20
> > I'm not sure, but I'm reasonably certain that the retrofit offer has=20
> > been out there and fairly well published (and discussed) for at least=
=20
> > two decades, probably more. If you didn't take advantage of it, whose=
=20
> > fault is that?
> >=20
> > OTOH, even though my RAS model was only ever eligible for the "turn in"=
=20
> > offer of $100, it still runs as well as it did when I bought it in the=
=20
> > early 70's. AFAIAC, it's one of the better Sears RAS that still had=20
> > some "beef" and, when properly set up and tuned was and is a great RAS.
> >=20
> > The only thing the recall ever addressed was safety guard issues that,=
=20
> > again, are pretty much "non-issues" if you exercise the due care=20
> > required when using such tools.
> >=20
> > Just my two cents.
>=20
> Yep. To say that one is "screwed" is greatly overstating the case. =20
> Getting a new table for free was nice, the new guard was more annoyance=
=20
> than benefit and has been replaced with the old guard, so about all that=
=20
> changed is that I saved the price of a half a sheet of MDF.

On Thursday, October 20, 2011 at 3:26:43 PM UTC-5, kimosabe wrote:
> This is old news for some guys. Sears will send you a free upgrade
> kit.
>=20
> Craftsman Radial Arm Saw Recall
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dt7emIOjHC_g
>=20
>=20
>=20
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWgjxwvHf9To

Tried to get a safety kit for my radial arm saw. They said it was no longer=
available. They wanted me to send parts of my working saw in to disable it=
and get a $100 rebate. My saw is worth a lot more than that, as it is used=
often. Would just like it to be safer. 8 87u 8u 8 =

On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 at 10:28:18 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote=
:
> I called Sears about the recall and they told me my saw wasn't affected (=
typical Sears BS) when I knew mine was. Called Emerson at 1-800-511-2628 an=
d had them run the model and serial number. Sure enough, they sent me the r=
etrofit kit which includes the new table parts. If they haven't accounted f=
or all of the saws affected, they have to honor your request. Sears will tr=
y and tell you the recall has ended, but it hasn't. Emerson will try and of=
fer you a $100 to send the carriage assembly back to them, but opt for the =
kit. I called them about a month ago and my retrofit kit got here yesterday=
and I've already gotten it installed. I have an electronic model and I was=
n't about to disable a perfectly good saw. Just some info for all you other=
woodworkers out there.

I have an electronic model also 113190600. Am going to chk on kit. Any ad=
vice. Thanks.

On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 07:15:03 -0800 (PST), [email protected] wrote:

>On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 10:40:54 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:45:22 -0700 (PDT), [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, October 20, 2011 at 4:26:43 PM UTC-4, kimosabe wrote:
>> >> This is old news for some guys. Sears will send you a free upgrade
>> >> kit.
>> >the new news is they are no longer sending a kit, instead you make the saw worthless by sending parts to the company and they will send you $100. Then you can buy a new one for $800, in otherwards you have been screwed.
>>
>> I got mine six or eight years ago and it's still in the box. ;-)
>> Some day I'll put the RAS back together.
>
>Do you want to sell it?

I had mine for over ten years and it's still in its box, too, but I
don't think I'd sell it without the RAS.

On 10/21/2011 8:59 AM, dss wrote:
> Got mine last year for a 20-year old saw. Only needed the serial
> number and got it in a couple of weeks. Installed it this summer in a
> couple of hours. It is of reasonable quality and makes the saw safer
> and still very usable. The best part is it comes with a new 1" thick
> table top.
>
> Definitely worth doing.
>
> dss
>
I say. Do it. You won't look back. Better than before.

Martin

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2011 at 4:26:43 PM UTC-4, kimosabe wrote:
> > This is old news for some guys. Sears will send you a free upgrade
> > kit.
> the new news is they are no longer sending a kit, instead you make the saw worthless by sending parts to the company and they will send you $100. Then you can buy a new one for $800, in otherwards you have been screwed.

That was always the case for some models.

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On 7/24/2016 2:35 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
> >>
> >> On Thursday, October 20, 2011 at 4:26:43 PM UTC-4, kimosabe wrote:
> >>> This is old news for some guys. Sears will send you a free
> >>> upgrade kit.
> >> the new news is they are no longer sending a kit, instead you make
> >> the saw worthless by sending parts to the company and they will
> >> send you $100. Then you can buy a new one for $800, in otherwards
> >> you have been screwed.
> >
> > That was always the case for some models.
>
>
> That's correct. My particular model was never eligible for the retrofit
> kit like the others. In the end though, IF it is true that
> Sears/Emerson Electric is no longer sending out the kits, to say one is
> screwed is a rather ridiculous statement.
>
> I'm not sure, but I'm reasonably certain that the retrofit offer has
> been out there and fairly well published (and discussed) for at least
> two decades, probably more. If you didn't take advantage of it, whose
> fault is that?
>
> OTOH, even though my RAS model was only ever eligible for the "turn in"
> offer of $100, it still runs as well as it did when I bought it in the
> early 70's. AFAIAC, it's one of the better Sears RAS that still had
> some "beef" and, when properly set up and tuned was and is a great RAS.
>
> The only thing the recall ever addressed was safety guard issues that,
> again, are pretty much "non-issues" if you exercise the due care
> required when using such tools.
>
> Just my two cents.

Yep. To say that one is "screwed" is greatly overstating the case.
Getting a new table for free was nice, the new guard was more annoyance
than benefit and has been replaced with the old guard, so about all that
changed is that I saved the price of a half a sheet of MDF.

In article <09b867d0-97aa-4c6b-a1e9-
[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> I call on Friday they said no more retrofit kits are available for my saw I have been using this saw for a long time and have had no issues with it so if they don't want to pay me it's value which to me is 500.00 as it makes me alot of money then it is on them if it does go to hell . Talked to my attorney he said they can't offer to fix just some and not all.

The court has decided that they in fact _can_
fix just some and not all, so good luck with
that.

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On 2/3/17 11:08 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> > -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> >
> >>
> >> I wouldn't go that far.
> >> I have a table saw with a sled, a really good compound miter saw, and a
> >> radial arm saw.
> >>
> >> The RAS is set up on the workbench, ready to use at all times with
> >> dedicated dust collection in the hood and behind the fence. It's my
> >> "go-to" saw for quick, perfectly square, clean cuts on any length stock
> >> up to almost 16" wide and wider with a simply flip of the piece.
> >>
> >> I would not want to be without it because of how convenient it is in my
> >> shop, how great it cuts, and how it leaves virtually no saw dust in the
> >> air.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I need to fit some sort of dust collection to my RAS, but other than that
> > it's a great saw. It took several days to tune up, but it was worth it!
> > I get square and true cuts with very little effort.
> >
> > This guide was very helpful:
> >
> > http://www.johnsonphotographic.com/goodstuff/owwm/Adjusting_DeWalt_Radial
> > _Arm_Saws.pdf
> >
> > If you don't have a DeWalt, don't despair. You'll likely see the same
> > concepts expressed differently on other saws. There has to be a way to
> > set the blade true to the fence and true to the table, the arm parallel
> > to the table and so on.
> >
> > Puckdropper
> >
>
> I don't know, man, but if you're into woodworking and making jigs and
> whatnot, then you probably already process the skills and mental
> fortitude to get one of these things all trued up.
> I spent a good day taking mine apart, cleaning and greasing the parts,
> putting the new (recall) parts on and getting everything square,
> parallel, and true. After that it was in better shape than new. Of
> course, I enjoy doing that kind of thing while listening to music or a
> game and having a beer or two. Beats watching reality TV. :-)

FWIW, Jon Eakes wrote a book about tuning radial
saws a long time ago--covers DeWalt, Craftsman,
and Delta in some detail and has some good ideas
about the principles involved.
<http://www.joneakes.com/learning-curve/75-
radial-arm-saws>.

Also, Wallace Kunkel's "Mr. Sawdust" book is a
good read <http://www.mrsawdust.com/index.php>--
setting up the saw is only a minor part of it--
he started at deWalt in the late '40s or early
'50s and stayed there until he retired and he
knew radial saws inside and out. Note that the
family's facebook page
<https://www.facebook.com/mrsawdust/> is worth
seeing--several of his sons became woodworkers
and there's a good bit of their output on the
page.

dss wrote:

> Got mine last year for a 20-year old saw. Only needed the serial
> number and got it in a couple of weeks. Installed it this summer in a
> couple of hours. It is of reasonable quality and makes the saw safer
> and still very usable. The best part is it comes with a new 1" thick
> table top.
>
> Definitely worth doing.
>
> dss

I've got a 12" Craftsman. Is this available for it? Thanks, Jim

--

On Nov 8, 7:16=A0am, dss <[email protected]> wrote:
> James,
>
> Here's the link I used.
>
> http://radialarmsawrecall.com/
>
> It doesn't look like the 12-inch are included.
>
> dss

"insert" joke here

On Thursday, October 20, 2011 at 4:26:43 PM UTC-4, kimosabe wrote:
> This is old news for some guys. Sears will send you a free upgrade
> kit.
the new news is they are no longer sending a kit, instead you make the saw worthless by sending parts to the company and they will send you $100. Then you can buy a new one for $800, in otherwards you have been screwed.

On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 16:24:40 -0800 (PST), [email protected]
wrote:

>I call on Friday they said no more retrofit kits are available for my saw I have been using this saw for a long time and have had no issues with it so if they don't want to pay me it's value which to me is 500.00 as it makes me alot of money then it is on them if it does go to hell . Talked to my attorney he said they can't offer to fix just some and not all.


So sue them. LOL!

I called this morning and when they offered the 100$ for sending in the old=
parts I told them that 100 would not replace the saw and I still needed to=
use it. The man said that they still had the kits and would send me the ki=
t instead of the 100. You just have to ask when you call the number.

The phone likely goes into a rotating bank of phones. e.g. a call
center. So if the digital unit went down, wait it out and order one.

It is worth it by all means. I use the new one.

Just when you get it, add a layer of mdf or better ply on the top of
the mdf which will save the new flat hard layer.

I'm concerned with absorption of water - my shop is not sealed or
conditioned. Sometimes it rains inside.
Put machine cover over it and it should be ok.

Martin

On 6/19/2015 8:43 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thursday, October 20, 2011 at 4:26:43 PM UTC-4, kimosabe wrote:
>> This is old news for some guys. Sears will send you a free upgrade
>> kit.
>>
>> Craftsman Radial Arm Saw Recall
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7emIOjHC_g
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgjxwvHf9To
>
> just tried to call the 800-511-2628 number 6-19-2015. Worked earlier this week as Emerson RASrecall. But now says number is malfunctioning and Ridgid is making effort to correct problem by 22 June. Guess retrofit kits are no longer available. Bummer.
>

On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 8:43:52 PM UTC-6, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 17:28:45 -0600, Unquestionably Confused
> >Face it, RAS popularity is definitely waned. If it's working good, you=
=20
> >could probably get $100 to $125 for it without the modification. If you=
=20
> >modified it you could probably get the same $100 to $125. Sell the kit=
=20
> >for $75 and make some money. Just sayin'
>=20
> It was working well the last time I used it (some time before '93 ;-).

Your statement does a very good job of illustrating how antiquated, useless=
, worthless, etc. radial arm saws are now. If you haven't used it in 25 ye=
ars, its probably not that useful. $75-$100-$125? Once, maybe, that meant=
something to me. Now, I might whip IT out to put out a fire of a $100 bil=
l. But if it was the middle of winter and cold, I might keep IT warm and l=
et the $100 bill burn up too.

On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 08:08:04 -0600, in rec.woodworking you wrote:
>dss wrote:
>
>> Got mine last year for a 20-year old saw. Only needed the serial
>> number and got it in a couple of weeks. Installed it this summer in a
>> couple of hours. It is of reasonable quality and makes the saw safer
>> and still very usable. The best part is it comes with a new 1" thick
>> table top.
>>
>> Definitely worth doing.
>>
>> dss

Just be aware - if you buy a used saw you should check the upgrade
first.

I tried this a year or two ago. Turned out my model is and isn't
recalled. They list it as one of the dangerous models - don't use.
But they don't offer an upgrade either. They did offer some sort of
discount coupon on a new saw that is no better than waiting for a
sale. It takes money out of pocket to get anywhere.

You bought it, it might kill you. Tough, we told you about it, it's
on your head now. Guess where I'm not going to buy other tools?

Mistakes happen but I expect the manufacturer to make good on them.




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In news:[email protected],
[email protected] <[email protected]> typed:
> On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:26:43 -0700 (PDT), kimosabe
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> This is old news for some guys. Sears will send you a
>> free upgrade kit.
>>
>> Craftsman Radial Arm Saw Recall
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7emIOjHC_g
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgjxwvHf9To
>
> Got mine a couple of months ago. They say it takes up to
> ten weeks but it was less than two, IIRC. Still haven't
> opened the box, though.

They should also be payng for labor.

On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:45:22 -0700 (PDT), [email protected] wrote:

>On Thursday, October 20, 2011 at 4:26:43 PM UTC-4, kimosabe wrote:
>> This is old news for some guys. Sears will send you a free upgrade
>> kit.
>the new news is they are no longer sending a kit, instead you make the saw worthless by sending parts to the company and they will send you $100. Then you can buy a new one for $800, in otherwards you have been screwed.

I got mine six or eight years ago and it's still in the box. ;-)
Some day I'll put the RAS back together.

On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 11:12:41 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 8:43:52 PM UTC-6, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 17:28:45 -0600, Unquestionably Confused
>> >Face it, RAS popularity is definitely waned. If it's working good, you
>> >could probably get $100 to $125 for it without the modification. If you
>> >modified it you could probably get the same $100 to $125. Sell the kit
>> >for $75 and make some money. Just sayin'
>>
>> It was working well the last time I used it (some time before '93 ;-).
>
>Your statement does a very good job of illustrating how antiquated, useless, worthless, etc. radial arm saws are now. If you haven't used it in 25 years, its probably not that useful. $75-$100-$125? Once, maybe, that meant something to me. Now, I might whip IT out to put out a fire of a $100 bill. But if it was the middle of winter and cold, I might keep IT warm and let the $100 bill burn up too.

Sure, it also says something about how much that additional $100 would
mean to me. There is a far higher chance that I'll use the RAS than
my *&*$ PC biscuit cutter. I haven't sold it either, even though I've
only used it once (and never will again).

On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 17:28:45 -0600, Unquestionably Confused
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 2/2/2017 12:12 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 07:15:03 -0800 (PST), [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 10:40:54 PM UTC-5, [email protected]
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:45:22 -0700 (PDT), [email protected]
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2011 at 4:26:43 PM UTC-4, kimosabe
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> This is old news for some guys. Sears will send you a free
>>>>>> upgrade kit.
>>>>> the new news is they are no longer sending a kit, instead you
>>>>> make the saw worthless by sending parts to the company and they
>>>>> will send you $100. Then you can buy a new one for $800, in
>>>>> otherwards you have been screwed.
>>>>
>>>> I got mine six or eight years ago and it's still in the box.
>>>> ;-) Some day I'll put the RAS back together.
>>>
>>> Do you want to sell it?
>>
>> I had mine for over ten years and it's still in its box, too, but I
>> don't think I'd sell it without the RAS.
>
>
>Hmmmmmmmmm! There was the option of sending in the motor yoke (and
>motor?) in a prepaid shipper and getting $100 back IIRC. Might try
>going back to the well, so to speak, perhaps with a different name and
>see if you can take advantage of Option B.

Fraud? For a hundred bucks? No thanks.
>
>Then you'd have a kit available to sell.
>
>Face it, RAS popularity is definitely waned. If it's working good, you
>could probably get $100 to $125 for it without the modification. If you
>modified it you could probably get the same $100 to $125. Sell the kit
>for $75 and make some money. Just sayin'

It was working well the last time I used it (some time before '93 ;-).
>
>My model was one that they NEVER made a kit for. My only option was to
>sell them the yoke for $100 and dispose of the rest of the saw. Screw
>that! It was and is a good solid saw that never gave me any problems
>once I tuned it up. I can rip a 10' 1x or 2x using a good Freud rip
>blade and come away with an edge that appears to have been run through a
>jointer.
>
>If you used the anti-kickback devices on the original as intended and
>know what you're doing you'll have no problems. This whole thing comes
>about with the government and lawyers (as usual) looking to design
>safety devices to accommodate morons at the expense of the rest of us.

I launched a spear once, after the cut but the worst was when I had it
come after me when cross-cuting, twice. Didn't much like that. I
feel much safer with the table saw. It does a much better job, too.

>When I am king! ;)
>
>

On 1/26/15 11:51 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> What was the number you call i recently bought one of these radial armsaws and found out the it need the upgrade guard..
>

http://bit.ly/15M7jmp


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On 7/22/16 10:40 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:45:22 -0700 (PDT), [email protected] wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2011 at 4:26:43 PM UTC-4, kimosabe wrote:
>>> This is old news for some guys. Sears will send you a free upgrade
>>> kit.
>> the new news is they are no longer sending a kit, instead you make the saw worthless by sending parts to the company and they will send you $100. Then you can buy a new one for $800, in otherwards you have been screwed.
>
> I got mine six or eight years ago and it's still in the box. ;-)
> Some day I'll put the RAS back together.
>

You should do it. It makes it a whole new machine.


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On 2/3/17 1:12 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 8:43:52 PM UTC-6, [email protected]
> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 17:28:45 -0600, Unquestionably Confused
>>> Face it, RAS popularity is definitely waned. If it's working
>>> good, you could probably get $100 to $125 for it without the
>>> modification. If you modified it you could probably get the same
>>> $100 to $125. Sell the kit for $75 and make some money. Just
>>> sayin'
>>
>> It was working well the last time I used it (some time before '93
>> ;-).
>
> Your statement does a very good job of illustrating how antiquated,
> useless, worthless, etc. radial arm saws are now.

I wouldn't go that far.
I have a table saw with a sled, a really good compound miter saw, and a
radial arm saw.

The RAS is set up on the workbench, ready to use at all times with
dedicated dust collection in the hood and behind the fence. It's my
"go-to" saw for quick, perfectly square, clean cuts on any length stock
up to almost 16" wide and wider with a simply flip of the piece.

I would not want to be without it because of how convenient it is in my
shop, how great it cuts, and how it leaves virtually no saw dust in the
air.


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On 2/3/17 11:08 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> I wouldn't go that far.
>> I have a table saw with a sled, a really good compound miter saw, and a
>> radial arm saw.
>>
>> The RAS is set up on the workbench, ready to use at all times with
>> dedicated dust collection in the hood and behind the fence. It's my
>> "go-to" saw for quick, perfectly square, clean cuts on any length stock
>> up to almost 16" wide and wider with a simply flip of the piece.
>>
>> I would not want to be without it because of how convenient it is in my
>> shop, how great it cuts, and how it leaves virtually no saw dust in the
>> air.
>>
>>
>
> I need to fit some sort of dust collection to my RAS, but other than that
> it's a great saw. It took several days to tune up, but it was worth it!
> I get square and true cuts with very little effort.
>
> This guide was very helpful:
>
> http://www.johnsonphotographic.com/goodstuff/owwm/Adjusting_DeWalt_Radial
> _Arm_Saws.pdf
>
> If you don't have a DeWalt, don't despair. You'll likely see the same
> concepts expressed differently on other saws. There has to be a way to
> set the blade true to the fence and true to the table, the arm parallel
> to the table and so on.
>
> Puckdropper
>

I don't know, man, but if you're into woodworking and making jigs and
whatnot, then you probably already process the skills and mental
fortitude to get one of these things all trued up.
I spent a good day taking mine apart, cleaning and greasing the parts,
putting the new (recall) parts on and getting everything square,
parallel, and true. After that it was in better shape than new. Of
course, I enjoy doing that kind of thing while listening to music or a
game and having a beer or two. Beats watching reality TV. :-)


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On 2/5/17 4:11 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
> On 2/3/2017 11:36 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 2/3/17 11:08 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>>> -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't go that far.
>>>> I have a table saw with a sled, a really good compound miter saw, and a
>>>> radial arm saw.
>
>
> [snip]
>
>> I don't know, man, but if you're into woodworking and making jigs and
>> whatnot, then you probably already process the skills and mental
>> fortitude to get one of these things all trued up.
>> I spent a good day taking mine apart, cleaning and greasing the parts,
>> putting the new (recall) parts on and getting everything square,
>> parallel, and true. After that it was in better shape than new. Of
>> course, I enjoy doing that kind of thing while listening to music or a
>> game and having a beer or two. Beats watching reality TV. :-)
>
> LOL! Having an impacted wisdom tooth removed without anesthetic beats
> reality television.
>
> As the guide pointed out, the RAS CAN be (in most instances) a great
> tool if one takes the time to understand the adjustments, makes them,
> and keeps the saw in good repair. I can only speak to my ca 1969
> Craftsman RAS but once trued up it stayed true and is a great tool.
>
> After mine was made Sears started getting cute with lotsa plastic,
> digital readouts and I doubt (judging from the feel of those later
> designs) that they were anywhere near as good as most of the earlier
> models.
>

You're probably right about that.


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