I'm halfway through remodeling the kitchen. I've completed the new cabinet
doors and am ready to move on to wrapping the island. However, when I went
to stain a piece of trim I found my can of Carver-Tripp special walnut was
still open and quite solid. Any suggestions for a cross reference or match
for this stain? It looks more red/orange than any of the special walnuts
I've looked at so far.
TIA
On Monday, April 30, 2007 at 8:43:33 PM UTC-4, John F. King wrote:
> I'm halfway through remodeling the kitchen. I've completed the new cabine=
t=20
> doors and am ready to move on to wrapping the island. However, when I wen=
t=20
> to stain a piece of trim I found my can of Carver-Tripp special walnut wa=
s=20
> still open and quite solid. Any suggestions for a cross reference or matc=
h=20
> for this stain? It looks more red/orange than any of the special walnuts=
=20
> I've looked at so far.
>=20
> TIA
Minwax makes a clear finish called Poly Finish that is a mixture of tung oi=
l and polyurethane. It is a wipe-on product-I use women's pantyhose and th=
e application is great. I've never found that there is any distortion in t=
he stain color with this product. It comes in Satin or Gloss, and requires =
two coats. I use 0000 steel wool and a tack rag between coats. I've utili=
zed this product and never had any problem.
Jim S.
On Apr 30, 7:43 pm, "John F. King" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm halfway through remodeling the kitchen. I've completed the new cabinet
> doors and am ready to move on to wrapping the island. However, when I went
> to stain a piece of trim I found my can of Carver-Tripp special walnut was
> still open and quite solid. Any suggestions for a cross reference or match
> for this stain? It looks more red/orange than any of the special walnuts
> I've looked at so far.
>
> TIA
Just a thought, why not buy more CT?
Don't they sell that at Lowe's now? I don't know any stain
manufacturers that make their colors so close to one another's that
they are interchangeable. In fact, a great deal aren't even close to
each other. The name they go by is simply a reference.
Robert
On May 1, 7:43 pm, "John F. King" <[email protected]> wrote:
> As far as I know, Park corp (maker of Carver-Tripp) is out of >business. I haven't been able to find any Carver-Tripp products at >any of the usual stores. Searches on the internet come up empty >also. My can has a 1998 date on it.
>
> John
This might not get you much fartther.
http://www.parkscorp.com/
I didn't see much pertinent there, but I did find the phone number (!)
for the Parks corp so you could call them directly. I tried it, the
number works, so you could get it directly from them. They might be
able to tell you if there is an accceptable substitute. Call them at
1-800-225-8543.
I didn't know CT products were even hard to find. They were really
hard charging for years in the low VOC market.
Let us all know what you find out.
Also, I heard this, but have not confirmed this... a fellow remodeler
told me a couple of weeks ago that his client went to Lowe's and they
MATCHED stain. He claims the client was no idiot and wasn't screwing
with him. I haven't ever heard of such a thing, but that sure doesn't
mean it isn't happening.
Otherwise you are down to mixing all the nearest colors on your pieces
of scrap to see how close you can get the final product. It isn't as
hard as you might think to do that. But the deal killer is how the
stain looks with the seal coat on it. Almost all oil finshes leave
some amber behind after drying, and then continue to amber as time
goes by.
And just a thought here, I wouldn't beat myself to death with
matching. You won't get it perfect. Your wood will take the stain
different than the original, the envorinmental conditions you apply
the colorant in will not be exactly the same, and worse, sometimes
there are small variances in the stain colors as batched at the plant.
Nothing is worse than spending time on something like that, hours of
mixing an applying, letting samples dry on your exact match of wood,
then clear coating to get something that is ONLY really close. Then
of course, a more discerning eye sees the difference when they drive
up the drive way. No need to even come in the house.
If you couldn't get it close enough to make it a perfect match in yoru
eyes, I would change colors or hues and make the island an "accent"
piece to the kitchen. That method has saved me more than once and
always worked out well.
Robert
On May 2, 12:35 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On May 1, 7:43 pm, "John F. King" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > As far as I know, Park corp (maker of Carver-Tripp) is out of >business. I haven't been able to find any Carver-Tripp products at >any of the usual stores. Searches on the internet come up empty >also. My can has a 1998 date on it.
>
> > John
>
> This might not get you much fartther.
>
> http://www.parkscorp.com/
>
> I didn't see much pertinent there, but I did find the phone number (!)
> for the Parks corp so you could call them directly. I tried it, the
> number works, so you could get it directly from them. They might be
> able to tell you if there is an accceptable substitute. Call them at
> 1-800-225-8543.
>
> I didn't know CT products were even hard to find. They were really
> hard charging for years in the low VOC market.
>
> Let us all know what you find out.
>
> Also, I heard this, but have not confirmed this... a fellow remodeler
> told me a couple of weeks ago that his client went to Lowe's and they
> MATCHED stain. He claims the client was no idiot and wasn't screwing
> with him. I haven't ever heard of such a thing, but that sure doesn't
> mean it isn't happening.
>
> Otherwise you are down to mixing all the nearest colors on your pieces
> of scrap to see how close you can get the final product. It isn't as
> hard as you might think to do that. But the deal killer is how the
> stain looks with the seal coat on it. Almost all oil finshes leave
> some amber behind after drying, and then continue to amber as time
> goes by.
>
> And just a thought here, I wouldn't beat myself to death with
> matching. You won't get it perfect. Your wood will take the stain
> different than the original, the envorinmental conditions you apply
> the colorant in will not be exactly the same, and worse, sometimes
> there are small variances in the stain colors as batched at the plant.
>
> Nothing is worse than spending time on something like that, hours of
> mixing an applying, letting samples dry on your exact match of wood,
> then clear coating to get something that is ONLY really close. Then
> of course, a more discerning eye sees the difference when they drive
> up the drive way. No need to even come in the house.
>
> If you couldn't get it close enough to make it a perfect match in yoru
> eyes, I would change colors or hues and make the island an "accent"
> piece to the kitchen. That method has saved me more than once and
> always worked out well.
>
> Robert
I've got the same challenge! I've got a small amunt of Carver Tripp
Special Walnut left, but I'll need more. A few years ago I was able to
track down a source of the product - there was one in Minnesota, and
one in central Pennsylvania. I don't have the info anymore, but I
remain optimistic that it's still possible to get this stain. I'm
using the oil wiping stain - great stuff, and about the only product
I could find that satisfied my taste on white pine. I' ve also used
the water-based special walnut from Carver Tripp but always found it
too chaulky and needed to smooth it out with the wiping stain.
On May 9, 5:07 am, "John F. King" <[email protected]> wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...> On May 1, 7:43 pm, "John F. King" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> As far as I know, Park corp (maker of Carver-Tripp) is out of >business.
> >> I haven't been able to find any Carver-Tripp products at >any of the
> >> usual stores. Searches on the internet come up empty >also. My can has a
> >> 1998 date on it.
>
> >> John
>
> > This might not get you much fartther.
>
> > http://www.parkscorp.com/
>
> > I didn't see much pertinent there, but I did find the phone number (!)
> > for the Parks corp so you could call them directly. I tried it, the
> > number works, so you could get it directly from them. They might be
> > able to tell you if there is an accceptable substitute. Call them at
> > 1-800-225-8543.
>
> > I didn't know CT products were even hard to find. They were really
> > hard charging for years in the low VOC market.
>
> > Let us all know what you find out.
>
> > Also, I heard this, but have not confirmed this... a fellow remodeler
> > told me a couple of weeks ago that his client went to Lowe's and they
> > MATCHED stain. He claims the client was no idiot and wasn't screwing
> > with him. I haven't ever heard of such a thing, but that sure doesn't
> > mean it isn't happening.
>
> > Otherwise you are down to mixing all the nearest colors on your pieces
> > of scrap to see how close you can get the final product. It isn't as
> > hard as you might think to do that. But the deal killer is how the
> > stain looks with the seal coat on it. Almost all oil finshes leave
> > some amber behind after drying, and then continue to amber as time
> > goes by.
>
> > And just a thought here, I wouldn't beat myself to death with
> > matching. You won't get it perfect. Your wood will take the stain
> > different than the original, the envorinmental conditions you apply
> > the colorant in will not be exactly the same, and worse, sometimes
> > there are small variances in the stain colors as batched at the plant.
>
> > Nothing is worse than spending time on something like that, hours of
> > mixing an applying, letting samples dry on your exact match of wood,
> > then clear coating to get something that is ONLY really close. Then
> > of course, a more discerning eye sees the difference when they drive
> > up the drive way. No need to even come in the house.
>
> > If you couldn't get it close enough to make it a perfect match in yoru
> > eyes, I would change colors or hues and make the island an "accent"
> > piece to the kitchen. That method has saved me more than once and
> > always worked out well.
>
> > Robert
>
> I emailed the NEWPARK corp and got a reply that basically said: "Sorry we
> don't make stain anymore. Good luck."
>
> I mixed two parts Minwax english chestnut with 3 parts of colonial maple. It
> is darker on white oak and lighter on common trim stock than the CT special
> walnut. I'll have to try a few pieces and apply some poly before I decide if
> this is good enough of a match.
>
> I haven't had the chance to try Lowes for matching.
>
> John
Hi John,
I am also trying to match Carver Tripp Special Walnut. My latest
formula is equal parts of Minwax (Special Walnut + Red Oak + Ipswich
Pine). I think the color is about right, but needs multiple coats to
get it as dark as the CT stain. Are you happy with your results after
applying poly?
Also, I spoke wih someone at Lowes locally here and was told they do
not match stains.
Mike
On 4/3/2018 1:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Monday, April 30, 2007 at 8:43:33 PM UTC-4, John F. King wrote:
>> I'm halfway through remodeling the kitchen. I've completed the new cabinet
>> doors and am ready to move on to wrapping the island. However, when I went
>> to stain a piece of trim I found my can of Carver-Tripp special walnut was
>> still open and quite solid. Any suggestions for a cross reference or match
>> for this stain? It looks more red/orange than any of the special walnuts
>> I've looked at so far.
>>
>> TIA
>
> Minwax makes a clear finish called Poly Finish that is a mixture of tung oil and polyurethane. It is a wipe-on product-I use women's pantyhose and the application is great. I've never found that there is any distortion in the stain color with this product. It comes in Satin or Gloss, and requires two coats. I use 0000 steel wool and a tack rag between coats. I've utilized this product and never had any problem.
>
> Jim S.
>
Women's panty hose was all the rage in 2007, when the question was posted.
Today, 11 years later, the preferred method is to be wearing a Thong for
applying MW.
On Monday, April 30, 2007 at 8:43:33 PM UTC-4, John F. King wrote:
> I'm halfway through remodeling the kitchen. I've completed the new cabine=
t=20
> doors and am ready to move on to wrapping the island. However, when I wen=
t=20
> to stain a piece of trim I found my can of Carver-Tripp special walnut wa=
s=20
> still open and quite solid. Any suggestions for a cross reference or matc=
h=20
> for this stain? It looks more red/orange than any of the special walnuts=
=20
> I've looked at so far.
>=20
> TIA
Talked with a person at Rust Oleum. There is NO MORE Carver Tripp products=
and has not been for several years. I know that Minwax special walnut is =
NOT a match. Varathane might be & I have some & will see. I have almost a=
full quart of the Carver Tripp Special Walnut, but I will need more to fin=
ish. Hope this helps. We are all out of luck, unless you find an old hard=
ware store that might have some.
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> Women's panty hose was all the rage in 2007, when the question was
> posted. Today, 11 years later, the preferred method is to be wearing a
> Thong for applying MW.
Overalls would cover better.
Just overalls, no sense messing up a good shirt... especially if it's a
lady applying the minwax!
Puckdropper
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On 4/3/2018 3:38 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Monday, April 30, 2007 at 8:43:33 PM UTC-4, John F. King wrote:
>> I'm halfway through remodeling the kitchen. I've completed the new cabinet
>> doors and am ready to move on to wrapping the island. However, when I went
>> to stain a piece of trim I found my can of Carver-Tripp special walnut was
>> still open and quite solid. Any suggestions for a cross reference or match
>> for this stain? It looks more red/orange than any of the special walnuts
>> I've looked at so far.
>>
>> TIA
>
> Talked with a person at Rust Oleum. There is NO MORE Carver Tripp products and has not been for several years. I know that Minwax special walnut is NOT a match. Varathane might be & I have some & will see. I have almost a full quart of the Carver Tripp Special Walnut, but I will need more to finish. Hope this helps. We are all out of luck, unless you find an old hardware store that might have some.
>
The person you are answering asked this question 11 years ago. I highly
suspect that he is no longer working on this project. You might
reference the date of the post that you are answering.
On Monday, April 30, 2007 at 8:43:33 PM UTC-4, John F. King wrote:
> I'm halfway through remodeling the kitchen. I've completed the new cabine=
t=20
> doors and am ready to move on to wrapping the island. However, when I wen=
t=20
> to stain a piece of trim I found my can of Carver-Tripp special walnut wa=
s=20
> still open and quite solid. Any suggestions for a cross reference or matc=
h=20
> for this stain? It looks more red/orange than any of the special walnuts=
=20
> I've looked at so far.
>=20
> TIA
There is NO MORE Carver Tripp of any kind or color, unless you can find an =
old hardware store that might still have some. . Minwax is not a match. =
I have a can of Varathane special walnut that I will try. I have almost a =
full can of the Carver Tripp special walnut , but I will need more. Frustr=
ating!
I used some CT stain can't remember if it was special walnut but it
was walnut. Found a stain very close it is made by ZAR. Hope this
helps in some way.
BillOn Wed, 09 May 2007 10:07:09 GMT, "John F. King"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On May 1, 7:43 pm, "John F. King" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> As far as I know, Park corp (maker of Carver-Tripp) is out of >business.
>>> I haven't been able to find any Carver-Tripp products at >any of the
>>> usual stores. Searches on the internet come up empty >also. My can has a
>>> 1998 date on it.
>>>
>>> John
>>
>> This might not get you much fartther.
>>
>> http://www.parkscorp.com/
>>
>> I didn't see much pertinent there, but I did find the phone number (!)
>> for the Parks corp so you could call them directly. I tried it, the
>> number works, so you could get it directly from them. They might be
>> able to tell you if there is an accceptable substitute. Call them at
>> 1-800-225-8543.
>>
>> I didn't know CT products were even hard to find. They were really
>> hard charging for years in the low VOC market.
>>
>> Let us all know what you find out.
>>
>> Also, I heard this, but have not confirmed this... a fellow remodeler
>> told me a couple of weeks ago that his client went to Lowe's and they
>> MATCHED stain. He claims the client was no idiot and wasn't screwing
>> with him. I haven't ever heard of such a thing, but that sure doesn't
>> mean it isn't happening.
>>
>> Otherwise you are down to mixing all the nearest colors on your pieces
>> of scrap to see how close you can get the final product. It isn't as
>> hard as you might think to do that. But the deal killer is how the
>> stain looks with the seal coat on it. Almost all oil finshes leave
>> some amber behind after drying, and then continue to amber as time
>> goes by.
>>
>> And just a thought here, I wouldn't beat myself to death with
>> matching. You won't get it perfect. Your wood will take the stain
>> different than the original, the envorinmental conditions you apply
>> the colorant in will not be exactly the same, and worse, sometimes
>> there are small variances in the stain colors as batched at the plant.
>>
>> Nothing is worse than spending time on something like that, hours of
>> mixing an applying, letting samples dry on your exact match of wood,
>> then clear coating to get something that is ONLY really close. Then
>> of course, a more discerning eye sees the difference when they drive
>> up the drive way. No need to even come in the house.
>>
>> If you couldn't get it close enough to make it a perfect match in yoru
>> eyes, I would change colors or hues and make the island an "accent"
>> piece to the kitchen. That method has saved me more than once and
>> always worked out well.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>I emailed the NEWPARK corp and got a reply that basically said: "Sorry we
>don't make stain anymore. Good luck."
>
>I mixed two parts Minwax english chestnut with 3 parts of colonial maple. It
>is darker on white oak and lighter on common trim stock than the CT special
>walnut. I'll have to try a few pieces and apply some poly before I decide if
>this is good enough of a match.
>
>I haven't had the chance to try Lowes for matching.
>
>John
>
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On May 1, 7:43 pm, "John F. King" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> As far as I know, Park corp (maker of Carver-Tripp) is out of >business.
>> I haven't been able to find any Carver-Tripp products at >any of the
>> usual stores. Searches on the internet come up empty >also. My can has a
>> 1998 date on it.
>>
>> John
>
> This might not get you much fartther.
>
> http://www.parkscorp.com/
>
> I didn't see much pertinent there, but I did find the phone number (!)
> for the Parks corp so you could call them directly. I tried it, the
> number works, so you could get it directly from them. They might be
> able to tell you if there is an accceptable substitute. Call them at
> 1-800-225-8543.
>
> I didn't know CT products were even hard to find. They were really
> hard charging for years in the low VOC market.
>
> Let us all know what you find out.
>
> Also, I heard this, but have not confirmed this... a fellow remodeler
> told me a couple of weeks ago that his client went to Lowe's and they
> MATCHED stain. He claims the client was no idiot and wasn't screwing
> with him. I haven't ever heard of such a thing, but that sure doesn't
> mean it isn't happening.
>
> Otherwise you are down to mixing all the nearest colors on your pieces
> of scrap to see how close you can get the final product. It isn't as
> hard as you might think to do that. But the deal killer is how the
> stain looks with the seal coat on it. Almost all oil finshes leave
> some amber behind after drying, and then continue to amber as time
> goes by.
>
> And just a thought here, I wouldn't beat myself to death with
> matching. You won't get it perfect. Your wood will take the stain
> different than the original, the envorinmental conditions you apply
> the colorant in will not be exactly the same, and worse, sometimes
> there are small variances in the stain colors as batched at the plant.
>
> Nothing is worse than spending time on something like that, hours of
> mixing an applying, letting samples dry on your exact match of wood,
> then clear coating to get something that is ONLY really close. Then
> of course, a more discerning eye sees the difference when they drive
> up the drive way. No need to even come in the house.
>
> If you couldn't get it close enough to make it a perfect match in yoru
> eyes, I would change colors or hues and make the island an "accent"
> piece to the kitchen. That method has saved me more than once and
> always worked out well.
>
> Robert
>
>
I emailed the NEWPARK corp and got a reply that basically said: "Sorry we
don't make stain anymore. Good luck."
I mixed two parts Minwax english chestnut with 3 parts of colonial maple. It
is darker on white oak and lighter on common trim stock than the CT special
walnut. I'll have to try a few pieces and apply some poly before I decide if
this is good enough of a match.
I haven't had the chance to try Lowes for matching.
John
On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 13:15:34 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>On 4/3/2018 1:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Monday, April 30, 2007 at 8:43:33 PM UTC-4, John F. King wrote:
>>> I'm halfway through remodeling the kitchen. I've completed the new cabinet
>>> doors and am ready to move on to wrapping the island. However, when I went
>>> to stain a piece of trim I found my can of Carver-Tripp special walnut was
>>> still open and quite solid. Any suggestions for a cross reference or match
>>> for this stain? It looks more red/orange than any of the special walnuts
>>> I've looked at so far.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>
>> Minwax makes a clear finish called Poly Finish that is a mixture of tung oil and polyurethane. It is a wipe-on product-I use women's pantyhose and the application is great. I've never found that there is any distortion in the stain color with this product. It comes in Satin or Gloss, and requires two coats. I use 0000 steel wool and a tack rag between coats. I've utilized this product and never had any problem.
>>
>> Jim S.
>>
>
>Women's panty hose was all the rage in 2007, when the question was posted.
>Today, 11 years later, the preferred method is to be wearing a Thong for
>applying MW.
Where is my brain bleach?
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Apr 30, 7:43 pm, "John F. King" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I'm halfway through remodeling the kitchen. I've completed the new
>> cabinet
>> doors and am ready to move on to wrapping the island. However, when I
>> went
>> to stain a piece of trim I found my can of Carver-Tripp special walnut
>> was
>> still open and quite solid. Any suggestions for a cross reference or
>> match
>> for this stain? It looks more red/orange than any of the special walnuts
>> I've looked at so far.
>>
>> TIA
>
> Just a thought, why not buy more CT?
>
> Don't they sell that at Lowe's now? I don't know any stain
> manufacturers that make their colors so close to one another's that
> they are interchangeable. In fact, a great deal aren't even close to
> each other. The name they go by is simply a reference.
>
> Robert
>
As far as I know, Park corp (maker of Carver-Tripp) is out of business. I
haven't been able to find any Carver-Tripp products at any of the usual
stores. Searches on the internet come up empty also. My can has a 1998 date
on it.
John