TW

Tom Watson

19/11/2008 7:31 PM

OT: Is Camus The Model For Understanding Our Relationship To Afghanistan?

The Guest.

The Kite Runner. (albeit not Camus it is Camusian.)









Regards,

Tom Watson
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/


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RC

Robatoy

in reply to Tom Watson on 19/11/2008 7:31 PM

20/11/2008 3:49 PM

On Nov 20, 6:09=A0pm, Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > On Nov 19, 10:06 pm, Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:31:01 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> How bored must a man be before he puts that much hogwash to pen.
> >> How deficient must a man be to respond in such a way?
>
> >> Regards,
>
> >> Tom Watsonhttp://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/
>
> > <G> You tell me.
>
> > I read Camus in the same period of my life when I was reading
> > Vonnegut. Maybe that explains a few things?
> > During a trip up to Tobermory over Labour Day, I tried to get back
> > into The Stranger. Couldn't do it.
> > It made me wonder why I liked that kind of writing way back when.
>
> Ah, Vonnegut.
>
> He could see the future:
>
> http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html

I have always had an intense dislike for those who ramble on about
this author and that one, but there is the odd author who does more
than just write. They are messengers. Cloaked in basic human flesh,
they carry messages from planets not unlike the ones I visit from time
to time.
There are a few musicians who do that as well. Lennon comes to mind.
An oft used word is 'resonate'. Vonnegut resonated in my head. Lennon
did.
Both teaching how to look through binoculars and encouraging the full
use of the 'wide-angle' feature.
And all I can think of these days is G-Code and gold.

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to Tom Watson on 19/11/2008 7:31 PM

19/11/2008 10:06 PM

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:31:01 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:


>
>How bored must a man be before he puts that much hogwash to pen.


How deficient must a man be to respond in such a way?


Regards,

Tom Watson
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

RC

Robatoy

in reply to Tom Watson on 19/11/2008 7:31 PM

19/11/2008 6:31 PM

On Nov 19, 8:37=A0pm, Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:16:25 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >"Tom Watson"
> >> The Guest.
>
> >> The Kite Runner. (albeit not Camus it is Camusian.)
>
> >It would have been indeed "Camusian", in the not that distant past, to
> >ponder the absurdity of this country looking into its collective mirror =
and
> >seeing the 3rd world staring =A0back.
>
> >But, as things stand as we speak, it is no longer appearing an absurdity=
...
>
> >Now that you mention it, "The Kite Runner" was an interesting, insightfu=
l
> >read. Never heard of it until youngest daughter, a college senior, turne=
d me
> >on to it last year. Did not think I would enjoy, but finished it in one
> >sitting back during the Christmas holidays. I've visited that part of th=
e
> >planet ... this country is on a course that will result in looking askan=
ce
> >into above mentioned mirror.
>
> >Just my .01 Afghani ...
>
> I appreciate your insight, Swing.
>
> I am thinking that Camus' relationship to Algiers might be a model for
> our continuing relationship with Afghanistan.
>
> His appreciation for the culture prefigured his government's policy
> and his writing and thinking ultimately lead to a mature relationship
> between the countries.
>
> We seem too much like the Raj and too much like colonial relationships
> in general.
>
> America has never been comfortable being the Romans of their day.
>
> We need a Pax Americana.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom Watsonhttp://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

How bored must a man be before he puts that much hogwash to pen.

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to Tom Watson on 19/11/2008 7:31 PM

19/11/2008 8:37 PM

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:16:25 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"Tom Watson"
>> The Guest.
>>
>> The Kite Runner. (albeit not Camus it is Camusian.)
>
>It would have been indeed "Camusian", in the not that distant past, to
>ponder the absurdity of this country looking into its collective mirror and
>seeing the 3rd world staring back.
>
>But, as things stand as we speak, it is no longer appearing an absurdity ...
>
>Now that you mention it, "The Kite Runner" was an interesting, insightful
>read. Never heard of it until youngest daughter, a college senior, turned me
>on to it last year. Did not think I would enjoy, but finished it in one
>sitting back during the Christmas holidays. I've visited that part of the
>planet ... this country is on a course that will result in looking askance
>into above mentioned mirror.
>
>Just my .01 Afghani ...


I appreciate your insight, Swing.

I am thinking that Camus' relationship to Algiers might be a model for
our continuing relationship with Afghanistan.

His appreciation for the culture prefigured his government's policy
and his writing and thinking ultimately lead to a mature relationship
between the countries.

We seem too much like the Raj and too much like colonial relationships
in general.

America has never been comfortable being the Romans of their day.

We need a Pax Americana.




Regards,

Tom Watson
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

jj

jo4hn

in reply to Tom Watson on 19/11/2008 7:31 PM

20/11/2008 6:56 PM

Robatoy wrote:
> On Nov 20, 6:09 pm, Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Robatoy wrote:
>>> On Nov 19, 10:06 pm, Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:31:01 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> How bored must a man be before he puts that much hogwash to pen.
>>>> How deficient must a man be to respond in such a way?
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Tom Watsonhttp://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/
>>> <G> You tell me.
>>> I read Camus in the same period of my life when I was reading
>>> Vonnegut. Maybe that explains a few things?
>>> During a trip up to Tobermory over Labour Day, I tried to get back
>>> into The Stranger. Couldn't do it.
>>> It made me wonder why I liked that kind of writing way back when.
>> Ah, Vonnegut.
>>
>> He could see the future:
>>
>> http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html
>
> Oh yes. Good one. Thanks for that.

Bill Watterson had it right.
j4

RC

Robatoy

in reply to Tom Watson on 19/11/2008 7:31 PM

20/11/2008 3:53 PM

On Nov 20, 6:09=A0pm, Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > On Nov 19, 10:06 pm, Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:31:01 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> How bored must a man be before he puts that much hogwash to pen.
> >> How deficient must a man be to respond in such a way?
>
> >> Regards,
>
> >> Tom Watsonhttp://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/
>
> > <G> You tell me.
>
> > I read Camus in the same period of my life when I was reading
> > Vonnegut. Maybe that explains a few things?
> > During a trip up to Tobermory over Labour Day, I tried to get back
> > into The Stranger. Couldn't do it.
> > It made me wonder why I liked that kind of writing way back when.
>
> Ah, Vonnegut.
>
> He could see the future:
>
> http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html

Oh yes. Good one. Thanks for that.

RC

Robatoy

in reply to Tom Watson on 19/11/2008 7:31 PM

20/11/2008 2:07 PM

On Nov 19, 10:06=A0pm, Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:31:01 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >How bored must a man be before he puts that much hogwash to pen.
>
> How deficient must a man be to respond in such a way?
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom Watsonhttp://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

<G> You tell me.

I read Camus in the same period of my life when I was reading
Vonnegut. Maybe that explains a few things?
During a trip up to Tobermory over Labour Day, I tried to get back
into The Stranger. Couldn't do it.
It made me wonder why I liked that kind of writing way back when.

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to Tom Watson on 19/11/2008 7:31 PM

19/11/2008 7:16 PM

"Tom Watson"
> The Guest.
>
> The Kite Runner. (albeit not Camus it is Camusian.)

It would have been indeed "Camusian", in the not that distant past, to
ponder the absurdity of this country looking into its collective mirror and
seeing the 3rd world staring back.

But, as things stand as we speak, it is no longer appearing an absurdity ...

Now that you mention it, "The Kite Runner" was an interesting, insightful
read. Never heard of it until youngest daughter, a college senior, turned me
on to it last year. Did not think I would enjoy, but finished it in one
sitting back during the Christmas holidays. I've visited that part of the
planet ... this country is on a course that will result in looking askance
into above mentioned mirror.

Just my .01 Afghani ...

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Doug Winterburn

in reply to Tom Watson on 19/11/2008 7:31 PM

20/11/2008 4:09 PM

Robatoy wrote:
> On Nov 19, 10:06 pm, Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:31:01 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> How bored must a man be before he puts that much hogwash to pen.
>> How deficient must a man be to respond in such a way?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tom Watsonhttp://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/
>
> <G> You tell me.
>
> I read Camus in the same period of my life when I was reading
> Vonnegut. Maybe that explains a few things?
> During a trip up to Tobermory over Labour Day, I tried to get back
> into The Stranger. Couldn't do it.
> It made me wonder why I liked that kind of writing way back when.

Ah, Vonnegut.

He could see the future:

http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html


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