Planning to buy air compressor for 20x11 ft shop. Will be used to clean
tools and shop, drive some brads, and nails up to 1.75 inches. No spray
painting, or heavy duty use. Would like one that requires oil as I
understand they are quieter and last longer. Interested in brand names, hp,
tank size etc.
Thanks in advance for replies,
Dan J
"Dan Jefferson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Planning to buy air compressor for 20x11 ft shop. Will be used to clean
> tools and shop, drive some brads, and nails up to 1.75 inches. No spray
> painting, or heavy duty use. Would like one that requires oil as I
> understand they are quieter and last longer. Interested in brand names,
> hp, tank size etc.
>
> Thanks in advance for replies,
>
> Dan J
>
For light use, blow gun, running a brad nailer, airing up a bicycle tire, I
would get a pancake compressor. DeWalt makes a nice one, I forget the model
though. Get one with a 1725 RPM motor, oil lube, it will be fairly quiet.
If, and when the need arises for more horse power then buy a 60 gallon unit,
then you will have the best of both worlds. A large capacity compressor for
the shop, and a portable unit for use anywhere!
My first compressor was a twenty gallon unit that ran on 240 volt. Too big
to haul around, also limited by 240 volt, and to small for any real work. It
has been replaced with two compressors, an small portable and a 60 gallon
unit.
Greg
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> Lowe's has a new model that sure it tempting. I'm not sure about
> their private label "task force" though. I think its a chinese knockoff
> instead of the rebranded campbell-hausefield you see everywhere.
>
Campbel Hausfeld builds for Lowes and for Home Depot.
--
-Mike-
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Yes, I used to think that I could "sense" what factory *really* made a
particular router bit.
Then someone who actually knows about this stuff told me the other way
around -- he indicated that the carbide, the shank, the colored paint,
and the grinding come from different places depending on what month it
is -- on something as seemingly monolithic as a router bit. So how
many components are in a compressor?
BillyBob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message news:P15Ve.238508$tt5.10140@edtnps90...
>> Yeah, well...note that almost all compressors are made by CH or DeVilbiss:
>>
>> http://www.aircompressorsettlement.com/faq.php3
>
> What I'm wondering is about the models that are clearly not made in the USA.
> For the longest time CH cast iron compressors seem to have been USA made.
> Home depot still advertises "American made" on some of their compressors.
> The Task Force cast iron compressors at Lowes are clearly not made in the
> USA. They may be imported by CH, but they are not made in the CH US
> factories. Sometimes the transition to Chinese manufacturer is fine, other
> times it spells a huge drop in quality even though it may be handled by the
> same US company - that's why I'm cautious, since there's been virtually no
> discussion, reviews or comments about these offshore compressors.
>
> Bob
>
>
<[email protected]> wrote in message news:2qrVe.226925$9A2.22253@edtnps89...
> is -- on something as seemingly monolithic as a router bit. So how
> many components are in a compressor?
a bunch. Some people would be horrified to know that in the past (and maybe
now) the forks on some Harley Davidson motorcyles were made overseas. I
don't know where I pick up this trivia. I don't even own a Harley.
Bob
"Dan Jefferson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Planning to buy air compressor for 20x11 ft shop. Will be used to clean
>> tools and shop, drive some brads, and nails up to 1.75 inches. No spray
>> painting, or heavy duty use.
Really depends on your projected usage and the tools you currently
own, if you already own a lot of electric tools, then you aren't going
to have want for air driven tools. Air tools tend to be cheaper,
longer lasting, cheaper to repair, lighter....maybe quieter.
Greg's reply was:
>For light use, blow gun, running a brad nailer, airing up a bicycle tire, I
>would get a pancake compressor. DeWalt makes a nice one, I forget the model
>though. Get one with a 1725 RPM motor, oil lube, it will be fairly quiet.
>If, and when the need arises for more horse power then buy a 60 gallon unit,
>then you will have the best of both worlds. A large capacity compressor for
>the shop, and a portable unit for use anywhere!
>My first compressor was a twenty gallon unit that ran on 240 volt. Too big
>to haul around, also limited by 240 volt, and to small for any real work. It
>has been replaced with two compressors, an small portable and a 60 gallon
>unit.
Excellent advice IMHO
My main use of air is for my RO sander, WAY faster than jitterbug,
however since my 15 yr old 2HP 20 gal Speedaire never came close to
the CFM req's for the sander, and it's dying, I'm looking at either a
new compressor, or alternate sanding method.
A General dual drum sander is next on my buying list, I'm tired of
sanding and any compressor that will power my sander costs almost as
much.
I will probably just keep repairing my current compressor to handle
all my other tasks (nailer, pinner, stapler, household and shop usage,
and using a cheap paint gun and a couple hundred feet of line it
occasionally gets used as a garden sprayer :)
Steve Jensen
Abbotsford B.C.
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Surfing along at 19200 bps since 95.
BBS'ing since 1982 at 300 bps.
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"Steve knight" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> cost wise a smaller tank unit with a extra tank is a cheap way to go.
What is your "little guy" compressor? I sure am tempted by the smaller cast
iron compressors like the Hitachi EC119 (see
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=111866-67702-EC119&lpage=none).
Bob
Yeah, well...note that almost all compressors are made by CH or DeVilbiss:
http://www.aircompressorsettlement.com/faq.php3
BillyBob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> Brands? Many are built by a few manufacturers. I would suggest oil lubed
>> as you stated and a cast iron pump. Take a magnet with you when shopping.
>> It is sometimes difficult to determine what metal is used under the paint.
>> The magnet will let you know if it is aluminum or iron under the paint.
>
> I'm shopping for a replacement compressor, too. I'm looking at the $400
> range. There's several models in this range that are very similar - cast
> iron compressor, 27-30 gallon tank, oil lubed. I went to look at a slightly
> used one and it blew me away how quiet it was, so that's probably the range
> I'll get. I never thought about taking a magnet along, but that's a great
> idea. Lowe's has a new model that sure it tempting. I'm not sure about
> their private label "task force" though. I think its a chinese knockoff
> instead of the rebranded campbell-hausefield you see everywhere.
>
> Bob
>
>
<[email protected]> wrote in message news:P15Ve.238508$tt5.10140@edtnps90...
> Yeah, well...note that almost all compressors are made by CH or DeVilbiss:
>
> http://www.aircompressorsettlement.com/faq.php3
What I'm wondering is about the models that are clearly not made in the USA.
For the longest time CH cast iron compressors seem to have been USA made.
Home depot still advertises "American made" on some of their compressors.
The Task Force cast iron compressors at Lowes are clearly not made in the
USA. They may be imported by CH, but they are not made in the CH US
factories. Sometimes the transition to Chinese manufacturer is fine, other
times it spells a huge drop in quality even though it may be handled by the
same US company - that's why I'm cautious, since there's been virtually no
discussion, reviews or comments about these offshore compressors.
Bob
"BillyBob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> Up until recently, the lowes compressors were clearly campbell-hausfield.
> But the lowes near me recently go rid of all of these and brought in a
whole
> new line of all black task force compressors that don't have CH anywhere
on
> the box or component labels. They don't look like any of the models I see
> on the CHPOWER website. That's why I suspect they've sourced from
somewhere
> else.
>
> Bob
>
>
I guess I'm not surprised to hear that. It's a bit disappointing, but
that's the way things are going.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 9/14/2005 1:28 AM BillyBob mumbled something about the following:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message news:2qrVe.226925$9A2.22253@edtnps89...
>
>
>>is -- on something as seemingly monolithic as a router bit. So how
>>many components are in a compressor?
>
>
> a bunch. Some people would be horrified to know that in the past (and maybe
> now) the forks on some Harley Davidson motorcyles were made overseas. I
> don't know where I pick up this trivia. I don't even own a Harley.
>
> Bob
>
>
Not some, all, and have been for a long time. Almost all of us H-D
owners know this.
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"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "BillyBob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Lowe's has a new model that sure it tempting. I'm not sure about
> > their private label "task force" though. I think its a chinese knockoff
> > instead of the rebranded campbell-hausefield you see everywhere.
> >
>
> Campbel Hausfeld builds for Lowes and for Home Depot.
Up until recently, the lowes compressors were clearly campbell-hausfield.
But the lowes near me recently go rid of all of these and brought in a whole
new line of all black task force compressors that don't have CH anywhere on
the box or component labels. They don't look like any of the models I see
on the CHPOWER website. That's why I suspect they've sourced from somewhere
else.
Bob
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Brands? Many are built by a few manufacturers. I would suggest oil lubed
> as you stated and a cast iron pump. Take a magnet with you when shopping.
> It is sometimes difficult to determine what metal is used under the paint.
> The magnet will let you know if it is aluminum or iron under the paint.
I'm shopping for a replacement compressor, too. I'm looking at the $400
range. There's several models in this range that are very similar - cast
iron compressor, 27-30 gallon tank, oil lubed. I went to look at a slightly
used one and it blew me away how quiet it was, so that's probably the range
I'll get. I never thought about taking a magnet along, but that's a great
idea. Lowe's has a new model that sure it tempting. I'm not sure about
their private label "task force" though. I think its a chinese knockoff
instead of the rebranded campbell-hausefield you see everywhere.
Bob
"Dan Jefferson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Planning to buy air compressor for 20x11 ft shop. Will be used to clean
> tools and shop, drive some brads, and nails up to 1.75 inches. No spray
> painting, or heavy duty use. Would like one that requires oil as I
> understand they are quieter and last longer. Interested in brand names,
> hp, tank size etc.
Oddly cleaning tools and the shop will be a big demand on the compressor
compared to driving brads. Fortunately cleaning up probably will not take
long. As far as a compressor for driving nails, I don't know of any that
will not. Nail guns of any size are low volume users. You can run a
framing nail gun with a small compressor also.
You would probably be happy with something around a 20 gal tank. That size
will work better when cleaning up over the smaller models. It will have
more reserve capacity before having to recharge.
Brands? Many are built by a few manufacturers. I would suggest oil lubed
as you stated and a cast iron pump. Take a magnet with you when shopping.
It is sometimes difficult to determine what metal is used under the paint.
The magnet will let you know if it is aluminum or iron under the paint.
"Dan Jefferson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Planning to buy air compressor for 20x11 ft shop. Will be used to clean
>> tools and shop, drive some brads, and nails up to 1.75 inches. No spray
>> painting, or heavy duty use.
Really depends on your projected usage and the tools you currently
own, if you already own a lot of electric tools, then you aren't going
to have want for air driven tools. Air tools tend to be cheaper,
longer lasting, cheaper to repair, lighter....maybe quieter.
Greg's reply was:
>For light use, blow gun, running a brad nailer, airing up a bicycle tire, I
>would get a pancake compressor. DeWalt makes a nice one, I forget the model
>though. Get one with a 1725 RPM motor, oil lube, it will be fairly quiet.
>If, and when the need arises for more horse power then buy a 60 gallon unit,
>then you will have the best of both worlds. A large capacity compressor for
>the shop, and a portable unit for use anywhere!
>My first compressor was a twenty gallon unit that ran on 240 volt. Too big
>to haul around, also limited by 240 volt, and to small for any real work. It
>has been replaced with two compressors, an small portable and a 60 gallon
>unit.
Excellent advice IMHO
My main use of air is for my RO sander, WAY faster than jitterbug,
however since my 15 yr old 2HP 20 gal Speedaire never came close to
the CFM req's for the sander, and it's dying, I'm looking at either a
new compressor, or alternate sanding method.
A General dual drum sander is next on my buying list, I'm tired of
sanding and any compressor that will power my sander costs almost as
much.
I will probably just keep repairing my current compressor to handle
all my other tasks (nailer, pinner, stapler, household and shop usage,
and using a cheap paint gun and a couple hundred feet of line it
occasionally gets used as a garden sprayer :)
cost wise a smaller tank unit with a extra tank is a cheap way to go.
gives you portability and a bigger tank at the same time. hell my
little guy would fill it's tank and the 30 gallon crapsman tank faster
then the crapsman could do the job.
Knight-Toolworks
http://www.knight-toolworks.com
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"BillyBob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I'm shopping for a replacement compressor, too. I'm looking at the $400
> range. There's several models in this range that are very similar - cast
> iron compressor, 27-30 gallon tank, oil lubed. I went to look at a
> slightly
> used one and it blew me away how quiet it was, so that's probably the
> range
> I'll get. I never thought about taking a magnet along, but that's a great
> idea. Lowe's has a new model that sure it tempting. I'm not sure about
> their private label "task force" though. I think its a chinese knockoff
> instead of the rebranded campbell-hausefield you see everywhere.
Mine is a SpeedAir and I believe that it is probably built by CH. It is all
cast iron except for the head. I recall how quiet it was at the dealer and
that sold me. You can have a conversation next it with no problem even when
it is running. ;~) I bought mine at Crow equipment about 10 years ago and
they tweaked it a bit by extending the train valve via a pipe and ball valve
to the outer bottom edge of the tank to make draining something I do with my
toe.