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Kimosabe

24/11/2010 12:36 PM

Klingspor Sanding Belts / $29 for 30 belts (!?)

Has anyone here ever used Klingspor sanding belts? I got a catalog in
the mail and they look like a legit place. In addition to selling a
lot of stuff they also say that they are a manufacturer of abrasives
and have a deal where you can get 30 assorted belts for $29. I would
usually think that belts for that price would have to be junk, but
they make a pretty good case for their stuff. So I went online, and
their site is awful, but the rest of what they sell doesn't look like
junk, so maybe this is a real deal.

I would recommend requesting a catalog, It's put together a lot
better than the site was.

Belts:
http://www.woodworkingshop.com/cgi-bin/213343D0/mac/additmdtl.mac/showItemDetail?item=BZRD42400&sku1=Y&shipRemaining=0&daysBetween=0&daysBetweenFix=0&monthsBetween=0

If you go to the site, it's worth a click to look at "Customer
Projects."
==========

These belts are manufactured from the same "industrial" material as
our other belts. To increase our manufacturing efficiency, we can use
the smaller "leftover" pieces to make these standard size belts for
your portable belt sanders. This helps us use up material and helps
you because we can make these out of our best material very
inexpensively.

Includes one 5 pack of the following grits: 60, 80, 100, 120, 150, &
180


This topic has 15 replies

ME

Martin Eastburn

in reply to Kimosabe on 24/11/2010 12:36 PM

24/11/2010 10:44 PM

Water proof belts and resin bonded. Great service and long lasting.
I've been using them for 10 or more years. In fact my ID card I have
from them surprises them when I call in. A very old program long
forgotten.

Martin

On 11/24/2010 2:36 PM, Kimosabe wrote:
> Has anyone here ever used Klingspor sanding belts? I got a catalog in
> the mail and they look like a legit place. In addition to selling a
> lot of stuff they also say that they are a manufacturer of abrasives
> and have a deal where you can get 30 assorted belts for $29. I would
> usually think that belts for that price would have to be junk, but
> they make a pretty good case for their stuff. So I went online, and
> their site is awful, but the rest of what they sell doesn't look like
> junk, so maybe this is a real deal.
>
> I would recommend requesting a catalog, It's put together a lot
> better than the site was.
>
> Belts:
> http://www.woodworkingshop.com/cgi-bin/213343D0/mac/additmdtl.mac/showItemDetail?item=BZRD42400&sku1=Y&shipRemaining=0&daysBetween=0&daysBetweenFix=0&monthsBetween=0
>
> If you go to the site, it's worth a click to look at "Customer
> Projects."
> ==========
>
> These belts are manufactured from the same "industrial" material as
> our other belts. To increase our manufacturing efficiency, we can use
> the smaller "leftover" pieces to make these standard size belts for
> your portable belt sanders. This helps us use up material and helps
> you because we can make these out of our best material very
> inexpensively.
>
> Includes one 5 pack of the following grits: 60, 80, 100, 120, 150,&
> 180

ME

Martin Eastburn

in reply to Kimosabe on 24/11/2010 12:36 PM

25/11/2010 8:54 PM

Who says hundreds. You can buy 1.
A box of belts is for those who use them.

I buy box of rolls - fine size. Those are a mixture
of cloth and some paper - vary with and grit - nice sheets
or pads for my palm sander.

Martin

On 11/25/2010 2:50 PM, George W Frost wrote:
> "dpb"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> George W Frost wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> Must bet myself one or two of those there belts, if they last ten years
>>> or more
>> ...
>>
>> The adhesive won't hold up indefinitely...I love the belts and the value
>> but unless you're using them pretty consistently, the adhesive is only
>> rated for a year. It'll last well longer than that, but I've lost a box
>> or two over the years when other things intervened or type of work changed
>> and they haven't gotten used.
>>
>> Have had long conversation w/ their engineers on resuscitating them w/ no
>> outright success--their adhesive is proprietary and unavailable to
>> consumer (for one thing, it's cure process is equipment-costly). When
>> old, they fail within a few minutes when heat builds up...
>>
>> That said, others of similar age fail, too...
>>
>> Recommend Klingspor still, just don't expect them to last indefinitely.
>>
>> --
>
> Looking at them , the prices comparing them to what I can here is well under
> half the cost
> but, I really can't justify buying a couple of hundred,
> I am not going to live as long as they will last
>
>

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Kimosabe on 24/11/2010 12:36 PM

24/11/2010 1:21 PM


"Kimosabe" wrote:

> Has anyone here ever used Klingspor sanding belts?
---------------------------
Klingspor is very much a legit operation.

My #1 supplier of abrasives, especially anything finer than 36 grit.

Pearl out of Canada is #2 for 16-36 grit..

Lew

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Kimosabe on 24/11/2010 12:36 PM

25/11/2010 7:03 PM

RE: Subject

Typical German product.

Think of Klingspor as the Festool of abrasives, but at more
competitive pricing.

Lew


Mj

"Morgans"

in reply to Kimosabe on 24/11/2010 12:36 PM

24/11/2010 10:28 PM


"Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote

> They're quite legit. I buy my sheet and ROS sandpaper from them
> in bulk and have been very satisfied. As for belts I have found that
> the glue joint on the belt (anybody's, not just Klingspors) usually
> fails after a few minutes of use when the belt gets a year or two old.
> As I don't use my belt sander often I don't buy belts in bulk, just one
> or two at a time from the local HW store.
> BTW, busted belts last a looooooong time when sanding at the lathe.

Run a little thin CA glue on the seam of old belts before you start. It
helps.

The Loctite at wally-world is pretty good.
--
Jim in NC




GW

"George W Frost"

in reply to Kimosabe on 24/11/2010 12:36 PM

26/11/2010 2:19 PM


"Martin Eastburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Who says hundreds. You can buy 1.
> A box of belts is for those who use them.
>
> I buy box of rolls - fine size. Those are a mixture
> of cloth and some paper - vary with and grit - nice sheets
> or pads for my palm sander.
>
> Martin
>

Martin, I would have to buy hundreds of them to make the transport costs
viable

GW

"George W Frost"

in reply to Kimosabe on 24/11/2010 12:36 PM

26/11/2010 7:50 AM


"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> George W Frost wrote:
> ...
>
>> Must bet myself one or two of those there belts, if they last ten years
>> or more
> ...
>
> The adhesive won't hold up indefinitely...I love the belts and the value
> but unless you're using them pretty consistently, the adhesive is only
> rated for a year. It'll last well longer than that, but I've lost a box
> or two over the years when other things intervened or type of work changed
> and they haven't gotten used.
>
> Have had long conversation w/ their engineers on resuscitating them w/ no
> outright success--their adhesive is proprietary and unavailable to
> consumer (for one thing, it's cure process is equipment-costly). When
> old, they fail within a few minutes when heat builds up...
>
> That said, others of similar age fail, too...
>
> Recommend Klingspor still, just don't expect them to last indefinitely.
>
> --

Looking at them , the prices comparing them to what I can here is well under
half the cost
but, I really can't justify buying a couple of hundred,
I am not going to live as long as they will last

GW

"George W Frost"

in reply to Kimosabe on 24/11/2010 12:36 PM

25/11/2010 11:15 PM


"George W Frost" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Martin Eastburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:%[email protected]...
>> Water proof belts and resin bonded. Great service and long lasting.
>> I've been using them for 10 or more years. In fact my ID card I have
>> from them surprises them when I call in. A very old program long
>> forgotten.
>>
>> Martin
>
>
> Must bet myself one or two of those there belts, if they last ten years or
> more


And I will "GET" myself one at the same time

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to Kimosabe on 24/11/2010 12:36 PM

26/11/2010 9:20 AM


"Kimosabe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:42f05915-7895-4929-ad6a-2eb4b6b534fa@v20g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> Has anyone here ever used Klingspor sanding belts? I got a catalog in
> the mail and they look like a legit place. In addition to selling a
> lot of stuff they also say that they are a manufacturer of abrasives
> and have a deal where you can get 30 assorted belts for $29. I would
> usually think that belts for that price would have to be junk, but
> they make a pretty good case for their stuff. So I went online, and
> their site is awful, but the rest of what they sell doesn't look like
> junk, so maybe this is a real deal.
>
> I would recommend requesting a catalog, It's put together a lot
> better than the site was.


Not a bad product but my experience with Klingspore PSA paper is that they
think the "P" stands for Permanent.

Ab

"Artemus"

in reply to Kimosabe on 24/11/2010 12:36 PM

24/11/2010 1:32 PM


"Kimosabe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:42f05915-7895-4929-ad6a-2eb4b6b534fa@v20g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> Has anyone here ever used Klingspor sanding belts? I got a catalog in
> the mail and they look like a legit place. In addition to selling a
> lot of stuff they also say that they are a manufacturer of abrasives
> and have a deal where you can get 30 assorted belts for $29. I would
> usually think that belts for that price would have to be junk, but
> they make a pretty good case for their stuff. So I went online, and
> their site is awful, but the rest of what they sell doesn't look like
> junk, so maybe this is a real deal.
>
> I would recommend requesting a catalog, It's put together a lot
> better than the site was.
>
> Belts:
>
http://www.woodworkingshop.com/cgi-bin/213343D0/mac/additmdtl.mac/showItemDetail?item=BZRD42400&sku1=Y&shipRemaining=0&daysBetween=0&daysBetweenFix=0&monthsBetween=0
>
> If you go to the site, it's worth a click to look at "Customer
> Projects."
> ==========
>
> These belts are manufactured from the same "industrial" material as
> our other belts. To increase our manufacturing efficiency, we can use
> the smaller "leftover" pieces to make these standard size belts for
> your portable belt sanders. This helps us use up material and helps
> you because we can make these out of our best material very
> inexpensively.
>
> Includes one 5 pack of the following grits: 60, 80, 100, 120, 150, &
> 180

They're quite legit. I buy my sheet and ROS sandpaper from them
in bulk and have been very satisfied. As for belts I have found that
the glue joint on the belt (anybody's, not just Klingspors) usually
fails after a few minutes of use when the belt gets a year or two old.
As I don't use my belt sander often I don't buy belts in bulk, just one
or two at a time from the local HW store.
BTW, busted belts last a looooooong time when sanding at the lathe.
Art

LD

"Lobby Dosser"

in reply to Kimosabe on 24/11/2010 12:36 PM

24/11/2010 11:05 PM

"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Kimosabe" wrote:
>
>> Has anyone here ever used Klingspor sanding belts?
> ---------------------------
> Klingspor is very much a legit operation.
>
> My #1 supplier of abrasives, especially anything finer than 36 grit.
>
> Pearl out of Canada is #2 for 16-36 grit..
>
> Lew
>
>


For 16 I wait for winter storms to get the road grit from the top of Rex
Hill, then make my own. They have Bob Wire and his Doberman guarding the
stored grit.

--
If your name is No, I voted for you - more than once ...

dn

dpb

in reply to Kimosabe on 24/11/2010 12:36 PM

25/11/2010 9:46 AM

George W Frost wrote:
...

> Must bet myself one or two of those there belts, if they last ten years or
> more
...

The adhesive won't hold up indefinitely...I love the belts and the value
but unless you're using them pretty consistently, the adhesive is only
rated for a year. It'll last well longer than that, but I've lost a box
or two over the years when other things intervened or type of work
changed and they haven't gotten used.

Have had long conversation w/ their engineers on resuscitating them w/
no outright success--their adhesive is proprietary and unavailable to
consumer (for one thing, it's cure process is equipment-costly). When
old, they fail within a few minutes when heat builds up...

That said, others of similar age fail, too...

Recommend Klingspor still, just don't expect them to last indefinitely.

--

JS

Jack Stein

in reply to Kimosabe on 24/11/2010 12:36 PM

25/11/2010 11:19 AM

On 11/24/2010 4:32 PM, Artemus wrote:

.... As for belts I have found that
> the glue joint on the belt (anybody's, not just Klingspors) usually
> fails after a few minutes of use when the belt gets a year or two old.
> As I don't use my belt sander often I don't buy belts in bulk, just one
> or two at a time from the local HW store.
> BTW, busted belts last a looooooong time when sanding at the lathe.

My 6 x48 20 year old belt that came apart has been working fine for
months now and all I did was glue it with some super glue gel. I did it
on a lark for a temp fix expecting it to fail in a hurry. My first
attempt did fail, but it was done haphazardly. It lasted long enough
for me to think it might work if I took more care in glue up, so I took
my time, and clamped it together. Damned thing works good as new.

--
Jack
You Can't Fix Stupid, but You Can Vote it Out!
http://jbstein.com

ME

Martin Eastburn

in reply to Kimosabe on 24/11/2010 12:36 PM

25/11/2010 8:47 PM

Jumping to conclusions are we ? I'm their customer for that long.
I have a lot of belts and rolls in the shop. I grind metal with them
so they are tough. They last longer than any type I have found.

Martin

On 11/25/2010 2:06 AM, George W Frost wrote:
> "Martin Eastburn"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:%[email protected]...
>> Water proof belts and resin bonded. Great service and long lasting.
>> I've been using them for 10 or more years. In fact my ID card I have from
>> them surprises them when I call in. A very old program long forgotten.
>>
>> Martin
>
>
> Must bet myself one or two of those there belts, if they last ten years or
> more
>
>

GW

"George W Frost"

in reply to Kimosabe on 24/11/2010 12:36 PM

25/11/2010 7:06 PM


"Martin Eastburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
> Water proof belts and resin bonded. Great service and long lasting.
> I've been using them for 10 or more years. In fact my ID card I have from
> them surprises them when I call in. A very old program long forgotten.
>
> Martin


Must bet myself one or two of those there belts, if they last ten years or
more


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