Laid off recently from a 20hr a week office manager job. Three years ago
stopped woodworking (small crafts, shaker oval boxes) to take that job. Now I
have a second 'chance'. The holiday season is coming up and I would like to
give it a try again. What can I do that is fairly simple easy and would yield a
good return on time and effort? i dont have a lot of experience and was going
thru a lengthy 'ramping up' process when the wife said "work in the real
world..." ANY suggestions welcome.
have:
bench top table saw
delta lathe
router
drill press
grinder
various sanders disk and belt
variety of the 'usual' hand tools etc.
Wed, Sep 3, 2003, 2:37pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (mmiller4342)
claims:
Laid off recently from a 20hr a week office manager job. Three years ago
stopped woodworking (small crafts, shaker oval boxes) to take that job.
Now I have a second 'chance'. The holiday season is coming up and I
would like to give it a try again. What can I do that is fairly simple
easy and would yield a good return on time and effort? i dont have a lot
of experience and was going thru a lengthy 'ramping up' process when the
wife said "work in the real world..." ANY suggestions welcome. <snip>
20hr work week? Real world? She must cut you one Hell of a lot of
slack. And you stopped woodworking to take a 20hr a week job? Didn't
have time to spare then, eh? Most people have 40hr work weeks, minimum.
Hard to believe a post like this would be anything but a troll. My
suggestion would be to go out and look for a job. Then do woodworking
in your spare time. And, by job, I mean a real, 40hr a week, job, not
part-time work. If, by some weird chance, you are serious, oval Shaker
boxes supposedly sell pretty well.
JOAT
No sense in being pessimistic - it wouldn't work anyway.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
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> 20hr work week? Real world? She must cut you one Hell of a lot of
>slack
My request for help was sincere and exactly as I described. I was/am a stay at
home dad. Did I mention the three kids? did I mention the hand me down cars?
the house that is falling apart? Did I mention that the hours I spent trying to
do (and partly succeeding) woodworking NEVER FELT WASTED? did I mention that
20 hrs a week at a job that paid a heck of a lot more than what I was earning
with a sale here and a sale there WITH A FLEXIBLE schedule was a god send?
>Most people have 40hr work weeks, minimum.
I had a 40hr work week AND twenty hours at a part time job.
> Hard to believe a post like this would be anything but a troll.
believe what you want, you probably have crow for dinner more than you would
ever admit here. I am NOT a troll.
> If, by some weird chance, you are serious, oval Shaker
>boxes supposedly sell pretty well.
>
Yes in some areas, but they sell SLOWLY and are very time consuming to make. I
have ALL the forms and tools and templates for such I JUST DONT HAVE HOURS AND
HOURS TO POUR INTO ONE OR TWO SLOW SELLING PROJECTS. I have three months from
now to replace in part approx. 1000+/mo in lost income.
AND JOAT: out of politeness and as a new visitor here (I have posted and viewed
this board religiously several years back) I am holding back what I think of
your post, I do believe an apology is in order on your part.
mmiller writes:
>My request for help was sincere and exactly as I described. I was/am a stay
>at
>home dad. Did I mention the three kids? did I mention the hand me down cars?
>the house that is falling apart? Did I mention that the hours I spent trying
>to
>do (and partly succeeding) woodworking NEVER FELT WASTED? did I mention that
>20 hrs a week at a job that paid a heck of a lot more than what I was earning
>with a sale here and a sale there WITH A FLEXIBLE schedule was a god send?
As a matter of fact, you DIDN'T mention any of that, so do not expect people to
be able to read your mind. If youw ant answers that suit your situation,
explain the situation. Otherwise, don't bitch if what you get is what you asked
for, but didn't want.
Charlie Self
"Men willingly believe what they wish."
Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico
Thu, Sep 4, 2003, 3:03pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (mmiller4342)
claims:
After I responded, I went back and read your post again. I will
respond in more detail this time.
Youy wrote:
My request for help was sincere and exactly as I described.
Well, that's a problem. Because you didn't describe anything.
Here is your complete original post:
Wed, Sep 3, 2003, 2:37pm (EDT+4) From: [email protected] (mmiller4342)
Laid off recently from a 20hr a week office manager job. Three years ago
stopped woodworking (small crafts, shaker oval boxes) to take that job.
Now I have a second 'chance'. The holiday season is coming up and I
would like to give it a try again. What can I do that is fairly simple
easy and would yield a good return on time and effort? i dont have a lot
of experience and was going thru a lengthy 'ramping up' process when the
wife said "work in the real world..." ANY suggestions welcome.
have:
bench top table saw
delta lathe
router
drill press
grinder
various sanders disk and belt
variety of the 'usual' hand tools etc.
See? But, now your feelings are hurt because of my response, and
you come up with a whole bunch of, Did I mention?. No, you didn't
mention.
I'm not sure what you mean here::
I was/am a stay at home dad. <snip> I had a 40hr work week AND twenty
hours at a part time job. <snip>
Are you saying you were/are a stay-at-home dad for 40 hours a week,
plus having a 20 hour part-time job? Or, had a 40 hour regular job,
plus the 20 hour part-time job, plus being a stay-at-home dad? Ah,
doesn't matter. I had full custody of my sons from 3 and 7, no child
support, worked full-time, and raised them with no help. At least
you've got a wife.
Yes in some areas, but they sell SLOWLY and are very time consuming to
make. I have ALL the forms and tools and templates for such I JUST DONT
HAVE HOURS AND HOURS TO POUR INTO ONE OR TWO SLOW SELLING PROJECTS.
<snip>
Then why mess with them? Do a bit of homework, and find out what
sells in your area.
AND JOAT: out of politeness <snip> I do believe an apology is in order
on your part.
That's being polite? I'll be polite too, and just say, don't hold
your breath. Look at it this way, now you understand the importance of
details.
JOAT
Failure is not an option.
But it is definitely a possibility.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 2 Sep 2003. Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
Thu, Sep 4, 2003, 3:03pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (mmiller4342)
claims:
<snip> Did I mention <snip>
Apparently we were meant to read your mind, because you didn't
mention zip. You might think about that next time.
JOAT
Failure is not an option.
But it is definitely a possibility.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 2 Sep 2003. Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
Blood type too. I learned quickly that if you leave yourself open in
the least, someone/ somebodies will take full advantage of it. that's
why you never read the newsgroups unless you are in a good mood.
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:30:26 -0400 (EDT), [email protected]
(Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT) wrote:
>Thu, Sep 4, 2003, 3:03pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (mmiller4342)
>claims:
><snip> Did I mention <snip>
>
> Apparently we were meant to read your mind, because you didn't
>mention zip. You might think about that next time.
>
>JOAT
>Failure is not an option.
>But it is definitely a possibility.
>
>Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
>Web Page Update 2 Sep 2003. Some tunes I like.
>http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
As a quick follow up, I am fifty and just graduated from college.
Guess what ? We have a depression goiing on which means NO jobs.
Sometimes you think you have it rough and then run into some of you
guys. I have no kids at homke, my wife is a professor so that helps
(would help more if she were inthe public schools but am thankful for
this) and I am starting my own consulting business. Things are going
great for me and I will put you and the other fellow n my prayer list.
On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 09:59:03 -0500, Ramsey <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Welfare?
>
>On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 13:45:28 GMT, Chris Merrill
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>mmiller4342 wrote:
>>> What can I do that is fairly simple easy and would yield a
>>> good return on time and effort?
>>
>>Are you serious? If such a thing existed, we'd all be doing it.
"Ramsey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks!
> I would be traveling mostly. I live in Arkansas. Where can one stay
> for a week or two rather cheaply? I'm OK with eating out. Any motels
> with apartments? Just a generic question.
>
What cities will you be near?
Go for it! Man, life is short like my folks used to tell me. As I grow
older, I gain more understanding of exactly what that means. Here, $8
an hour is "good" money. Wonder why we have so many Mexicans moving
in? MS & AR are definitely somewhere not to live if you want to make
money. I am looking at a job now on the east coast that would pay
>$75,000 year. And people wonder why I want to move. Think I will just
let them figure it out while they are sucking guts of of chickens for
$8 hour.
On 04 Sep 2003 15:39:51 GMT, [email protected] (mmiller4342) wrote:
>>and I will put you and the other fellow n my prayer list.
>>
>
>thanks, I do appreciate it. It is not that there are no jobs here, there are
>but local grocery store work or driving school buses dont compare with just
>this one last (?) chance to do what I have always wanted to do...
"Ramsey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
...
> I am looking at a job now on the east coast that would pay
> >$75,000 year. And people wonder why I want to move. Think I will just
> let them figure it out while they are sucking guts of of chickens for
> $8 hour.
Depends on where in the east. I some areas, you'd be a pauper trying to pay
the rent/mortgage on a mere 75k Check the real estate listings before you
say yes to the job.
Ed
Charlie Self wrote:
> Sans mortgage, it costs me almost 20% more to live in this small city than
> it did in the country. Toss in the mortgage, which I had paid off in VA,
> and it was painful.
Yeah, plus you moved to West Virginia, which must have been painful in of
itself. :)
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Silvan responds:
>Charlie Self wrote:
>
>> Sans mortgage, it costs me almost 20% more to live in this small city than
>> it did in the country. Toss in the mortgage, which I had paid off in VA,
>> and it was painful.
>
>Yeah, plus you moved to West Virginia, which must have been painful in of
>itself. :)
No comment. But I could have moved to Northern Virginia and gone immediately
bankrupt. Not to mention the traffic up there.
But you're in Blacksburg, IIRC. Came through there on game day last week, but
was fortunate enough to do so before 10:30 a.m. when traffic was fairly close
to moderate.
Charlie Self
"Men willingly believe what they wish."
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Charlie Self wrote:
>>Yeah, plus you moved to West Virginia, which must have been painful in of
>>itself. :)
>
> No comment. But I could have moved to Northern Virginia and gone
> immediately bankrupt. Not to mention the traffic up there.
Yeah, true enough. I could be working in my field instead of driving a
truck if I moved to NoVA or maybe NYC or elsewhere similar, but it's not
worth it.
> But you're in Blacksburg, IIRC. Came through there on game day last week,
> but was fortunate enough to do so before 10:30 a.m. when traffic was
> fairly close to moderate.
I live in Christiansburg. I avoid Blacksburg absolutely as much as
possible, for all manner of reasons. Nothing there I need, except a
dentist, and occasionally a good margarita.
Traffic is a lot more moderate than it used to be now that I have a 15' high
concrete wall outside my bedroom window. I live between the old 460 and
the new 460, right at the base of the new one.
Now my greatest traffic concern is all those damn flapping VT car flags.
Listening to those things going by again and again is enough to make a man
start to have dark thoughts. Very dark thoughts. Must. Stop. The.
Flapping.
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George Eversole Jr. wrote:
> Ain't the internet amazing? not only can you learn about foriegn
> lands, but also the town next door. If you're willing to sift through
> the chaf.
Yeah, it's amazing, and yet somehow also slightly sad. Part of it is my job
though. I spend more than 90% of my working hours completely alone. It
sure is different from my old job, standing around in the parking lot after
work and drinking beer, going over to people's houses for dinner and stuff.
> Also, I've heard the Reeds sells the pre-mixed shellac, if you're into
> that.
I'm tooling up to get into box making. Haven't actually done anything fancy
yet, but I'm heading that way. When I do, I think I will finally give
shellac a try.
> Both Reeds and Heavener are absolutely woderful to deal with . The
> selection, employees, and even the price on 90% of the stuff in there
> beats the Borgs hands down.
I still haven't managed to get to either place since this topic came up. I
have an excuse for shopping at Lowe's so much though. I live behind
Play-it Again Sports, and Lowe's is clearly the choice for a quick hop. I
have to go through a lot more stop lights to get anywhere else, including
the Despot. I can get to Lowe's and only have to go through two of them.
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Silvan responds:
>Traffic is a lot more moderate than it used to be now that I have a 15' high
>concrete wall outside my bedroom window. I live between the old 460 and
>the new 460, right at the base of the new one.
>
>Now my greatest traffic concern is all those damn flapping VT car flags.
>Listening to those things going by again and again is enough to make a man
>start to have dark thoughts. Very dark thoughts. Must. Stop. The.
>Flapping.
Frank Beamer has a lot to answer for (for non-Virginia Tech devotees, Beamer is
the extremely successful coach at VT, who has in 17 years taken the Tech
football team from state also-ran [amongst 2 lousy teams...actually, 3 but the
Spinders were and are not good today, while UVa varies] to national powerhouse,
thus creating an immense new system of roads around Blacksburg, including I81
extensions and lots of rebuilding of the old route 460, just to handle game day
traffic for about 8 home games a year).
Charlie Self
"Men willingly believe what they wish."
Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico
Silvan wondered:
> BTW, Bill, do you have any clever supply of wood up your sleeve? I haven't
> ever actually talked to other woodworkers in the area, and I have no idea
> is there's some place over the hill that I've just never heard of.
I'll try to field this one.
Your best bet is Plywood & Plastics in Roanoke (540-344-2079 ~
800-948-7156). They have a good selection, great prices, but only
sell in full boards (about 10' or so).
For a quick fix, wander over to Reed's Lumber in C-burg. They don't
have the selection or good prices, but will cut down a board to suit
your needs and are a whole lot closer.
George, who moved from West Virginia to come to B-Burg to enjoy the
football traffic.
Must move soon...
Very soon...
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> George Eversole Jr. wrote:
>
> >> Reed's has hardwoods?
> > Yes. Cherry, Ash, Walnut, to name a few of my favorites.
> > just go in thru the lower set of doors, aim back and to the left,
> > Hardwood is stacked vertically.
>
> Wow. I've lived here since 1982, and have been puttering with wood one way
> or another for about ten years, and I never knew that. :)
Ain't the internet amazing? not only can you learn about foriegn
lands, but also the town next door. If you're willing to sift through
the chaf.
Also, I've heard the Reeds sells the pre-mixed shellac, if you're into
that.
> > For hardware, I prefer Heavener Hardware (also a tru-value) in B-Burg.
> > Great selection, pull out bins, and is only a block or two from the
> > house.
>
> Where did it move to? It used to be at the foot of the hill below the house
> next door to my great aunt's house. Last time I was in B'burg, that
> neighbor's house was completely missing, and so, I think, was Heavener's.
> I figured they had gone belly up. There used to be one out this way, but
> it disappeared years ago.
I don't know if it has moved (I've only been here since '95). But if
you want to get there from C-burg; Take 460 to Prices Fork towards
campus. Make a left at the light by Wendy's. Make a left at the first
road allowed (almost directly across Main St. from Advance Auto).
Heavener's the first buisiness on the left. Down the road and across
the street is their wood storage shed (good place for free pallets if
needed). Rental center is around the corner.
Heavener just purchased the house next door and demo'd it. Now there
is new steel on the Heavener bldg. I can hardly wait to see what goes
in there!
Both Reeds and Heavener are absolutely woderful to deal with . The
selection, employees, and even the price on 90% of the stuff in there
beats the Borgs hands down.
Charlie Self <[email protected]> wrote:
> Silvan responds:
>>Now my greatest traffic concern is all those damn flapping VT car flags.
>>Listening to those things going by again and again is enough to make a man
>>start to have dark thoughts. Very dark thoughts. Must. Stop. The.
>>Flapping.
This is why I either leave town, or make a major point of staying
home during home games. Leaving town is better, because then I don't
hear the all night parties after the game.
> Frank Beamer has a lot to answer for (for non-Virginia Tech devotees, Beamer is
<snip>
> thus creating an immense new system of roads around Blacksburg, including I81
> extensions and lots of rebuilding of the old route 460, just to handle game day
> traffic for about 8 home games a year).
I like the new roads. I can get over to the Lowe's and Home Depot much
easier now. There is also now a new restaurant called Beamer's. We went
out with some friends a few weeks ago and they insisted on trying it, even
though I thought patronizing the place was just encouraging him. I have to
say it was a very nice place and had pretty good food, not just a sports bar.
Today is another home game, and I'm hunkered down for the duration . . .
Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.
George Eversole Jr. <[email protected]> wrote:
> Silvan wrote in message:
>> Reed's has hardwoods?
> Yes. Cherry, Ash, Walnut, to name a few of my favorites.
>>
>> They have a real hardware store too, don't they?
> For hardware, I prefer Heavener Hardware (also a tru-value) in B-Burg.
> Great selection, pull out bins, and is only a block or two from the
> house.
Let me second the recommendation of Heavener Hardware for
hardware stuff. They will have the most obscure stuff some times.
I had an old kitchen stove once that needed a new switch for the
fluorescent light, you know the type where you have to hold the
switch in till the light starts then release it, and Heavener
had them in a pull out bin . . . several different styles.
I've also found that they are cheaper for pressure treated lumber
than Lowe's or Home Depot. The only time I don't go there first
is on Sunday when they aren't open. I would not buy their hardwood.
Not enough selection and too high priced, but tools, bits, blades,
screws, and other hardware it's the place to go.
> My main reason for wanting to move is family related. And possibly the
> shock of all the students coming back to town recently. If I were to
> stay in the area, I would definitely move out of B-Burg.
It gets better after football season is over.
Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:
> George Eversole Jr. wrote:
>> For hardware, I prefer Heavener Hardware (also a tru-value) in B-Burg.
>> Great selection, pull out bins, and is only a block or two from the
>> house.
> Where did it move to? It used to be at the foot of the hill below the house
> next door to my great aunt's house. Last time I was in B'burg, that
> neighbor's house was completely missing, and so, I think, was Heavener's.
> I figured they had gone belly up. There used to be one out this way, but
> it disappeared years ago.
Not sure if you are remembering the old location on Draper Rd., which
is where they were about 25 years ago, or Kabrich St. which is where
they are now. Both locations have had old houses disappear. The old
location on Draper is now the Blacksburg Public Library. They've
been on Kabrich St. for at least 15 years now (I don't remember
exactly when they moved). Anyway, they are expanding, onto the
lot where the old house next door was torn down. They also
recently opened a new store in Dublin.
From Christiansburg take the 460 bypass to the Price's Fork Rd.
exit (first one toward B'burg) and go to where Price's Fork Rd.
ends at Main St. Turn left, and then the first left on Main St.
onto Kabrich St. and you will be facing Heavener's parking lot
and building.
Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.
[email protected] wrote:
>>>start to have dark thoughts. Very dark thoughts. Must. Stop. The.
>>>Flapping.
>
> This is why I either leave town, or make a major point of staying
> home during home games. Leaving town is better, because then I don't
> hear the all night parties after the game.
Leaving town is usually the option I take. Staying home does me no good,
since all the flapping is happening outside my bedroom window. I
especially hate it when they have late night games, and they had some
*late* games last year.
>> I81 extensions and lots of rebuilding of the old route 460, just to
>> handle game day traffic for about 8 home games a year).
Yeah, that about sums it up. It also makes it a hell of a lot more
tolerable when the students are coming in or leaving.
> I like the new roads. I can get over to the Lowe's and Home Depot much
I liked'em better before they were open. I put a couple hundred miles on my
bike last year. It was fun riding smack down the middle of a four-lane
highway at 45 mph on a bicycle without any fear greater than wondering how
long the bearings could stand going that fast, or what would happen if I
hit a rock at that speed.
Now, of course, to try *that* trick would mean a quick death.
> easier now. There is also now a new restaurant called Beamer's. We went
Getting to the Despot is irritating. The people who designed that shopping
center smoked way too much dope. It's like a roach motel. You can get in
easily, but you'll sit there 30 minutes trying to get back out.
Getting to Lowe's is about the same as it always was for me. I have to
drive out to Lowe's to get *on* the bypass. The new road does save me a
few stoplights getting to work though.
> out with some friends a few weeks ago and they insisted on trying it, even
> though I thought patronizing the place was just encouraging him. I have
SWMBO and I went to some hoakie Hokie sports bar on our anniversary. I felt
dirty, but it was the only reasonably exotic eatery that night that didn't
have a two-hour wait for a table. It sure is amazing how big the
restaurant business is around here. Those NoVA kids really know how to
stick it to their parents. :)
Did Tech get slaughtered? I hope, I hope, I hope... Maybe if their team
starts to suck again, we can keep the roads but we'll lose all these
flapping flags. <glee>
BTW, Bill, do you have any clever supply of wood up your sleeve? I haven't
ever actually talked to other woodworkers in the area, and I have no idea
is there's some place over the hill that I've just never heard of.
I'm thinking if I want to get ahold of some good hardwoods my best bet is
going to be to bum Dad's van and make the trip down to Mayodan, or maybe
some place out Charlie's way.
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Silvan writes:
>Getting to the Despot is irritating. The people who designed that shopping
>center smoked way too much dope. It's like a roach motel. You can get in
>easily, but you'll sit there 30 minutes trying to get back out.
Never thought to compare it to a roach motel, but the one in Roanoke is
similar. Out is very difficult. In is very easy.
>Did Tech get slaughtered? I hope, I hope, I hope... Maybe if their team
>starts to suck again, we can keep the roads but we'll lose all these
>flapping flags. <glee>
>
My SIL (UVa grad who hates Tech) says the first 7 Tech games are essentially
tune-ups or gimmees. They beat James Madison yesterday, 43-zip JMU has NO
business on the same field as tech.
>I'm thinking if I want to get ahold of some good hardwoods my best bet is
>going to be to bum Dad's van and make the trip down to Mayodan, or maybe
>some place out Charlie's way.
Take your car and cruise the back roads of Bedford County...also Franklin, etc.
Bedford has at least 10 small sawmills within its 750+ square miles. Buy green.
Sticker while stacking. Cover. Use in a year.
Charlie Self
"Men willingly believe what they wish."
Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico
Charlie Self wrote:
> Never thought to compare it to a roach motel, but the one in Roanoke is
> similar. Out is very difficult. In is very easy.
Maybe it's a Home Despot thing. They design'em that way on purpose.
> My SIL (UVa grad who hates Tech) says the first 7 Tech games are
> essentially tune-ups or gimmees. They beat James Madison yesterday, 43-zip
> JMU has NO business on the same field as tech.
I just hope they get slaughtered by their nemsis, whoever their nemesis is.
I try to stay out of it, though it's getting harder. I saw a picture of
someone with a VT flag hanging out his window in the Czech Republic at some
point. Yeesh.
> Take your car and cruise the back roads of Bedford County...also Franklin,
> etc. Bedford has at least 10 small sawmills within its 750+ square miles.
> Buy green. Sticker while stacking. Cover. Use in a year.
So there _are_ places lurking out there which just haven't entered the
information age yet. That's encouraging. I guess that's why it would be
good to talk to more real people and fewer electrons once in awhile. :)
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[email protected] wrote:
> been on Kabrich St. for at least 15 years now (I don't remember
> exactly when they moved). Anyway, they are expanding, onto the
> lot where the old house next door was torn down. They also
> recently opened a new store in Dublin.
Hmmm... Maybe I somehow missed it. Billy? Bobby? I used to know the guy
who lived in the house that wasn't there anymore. The really nasty looking
white house next door to that is where my great grandfather and my great
aunt lived for most of their lives. I didn't look like that 20 years ago,
I assure you.
> From Christiansburg take the 460 bypass to the Price's Fork Rd.
> exit (first one toward B'burg) and go to where Price's Fork Rd.
> ends at Main St. Turn left, and then the first left on Main St.
> onto Kabrich St. and you will be facing Heavener's parking lot
> and building.
Yeah, OK, it's the same place. I guess I just wasn't looking for it the
last time I was down that way. We had gone to Blacksburg for something or
other, and I was taking SWMBO through my old haunts, but I was probably
more focused on my aunt's neighbor's house being gone than the fact that it
had become associated with Heavener's...
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Thanks!
I would be traveling mostly. I live in Arkansas. Where can one stay
for a week or two rather cheaply? I'm OK with eating out. Any motels
with apartments? Just a generic question.
On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 17:23:59 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Ramsey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>...
>> I am looking at a job now on the east coast that would pay
>> >$75,000 year. And people wonder why I want to move. Think I will just
>> let them figure it out while they are sucking guts of of chickens for
>> $8 hour.
>
>Depends on where in the east. I some areas, you'd be a pauper trying to pay
>the rent/mortgage on a mere 75k Check the real estate listings before you
>say yes to the job.
>Ed
>
Don't know. Field is Emergency Management. So, not to be a smartass, I
guess anywhere there is a disaster.
On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 19:51:26 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Ramsey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Thanks!
>> I would be traveling mostly. I live in Arkansas. Where can one stay
>> for a week or two rather cheaply? I'm OK with eating out. Any motels
>> with apartments? Just a generic question.
>>
>
>What cities will you be near?
>
That's what I did for 19 years, got tired and quit to start own business.
Miss it some times though.
"Ramsey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Don't know. Field is Emergency Management. So, not to be a smartass, I
> guess anywhere there is a disaster.
>
> On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 19:51:26 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Ramsey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> Thanks!
> >> I would be traveling mostly. I live in Arkansas. Where can one stay
> >> for a week or two rather cheaply? I'm OK with eating out. Any motels
> >> with apartments? Just a generic question.
> >>
> >
> >What cities will you be near?
> >
>
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 17:22:39 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Could it be that he showed up 40 hours a week, but only worked 20? I know
>people like that.
>Ed
>
That would probably be a government job.
TomL
mmiller4342 wrote:
> What can I do that is fairly simple easy and would yield a
> good return on time and effort?
Are you serious? If such a thing existed, we'd all be doing it.
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"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> > 20hr work week? Real world? She must cut you one Hell of a lot of
> > slack. And you stopped woodworking to take a 20hr a week job? Didn't
> > have time to spare then, eh? Most people have 40hr work weeks, minimum.
>
> Could it be that he showed up 40 hours a week, but only worked 20? I know
> people like that.
> Ed
>
>
On 03 Sep 2003 14:37:06 GMT, [email protected] (mmiller4342) wrote:
>What can I do that is fairly simple easy and would yield a
>good return on time and effort?
What can you sell ? Where are you selling it ?
If you're going for comission sales through a medium-volume shop, then
look for things that make high-end Xmas gifts. Mirrors, tea trays,
clocks. Less than a hundred bucks, can be carried in one hand - the
sort of thing that the moderately well heeled might buy on impulse, if
they're in the shop with a gift-buying mindset. Most people also buy
gifts for more people than just themselves - addressing the gift
market, you get to leverage one buyer's wallet onto several people's
consumption.
I wouldn't do boxes. Here in the UK I can go to the Indian / Nepali
import shop and buy superb boxes for a pittance. There's just no space
for me in that market.
Furniture can be good, but it's harder to sell. Few people will
impulse-buy a chair or a table.
If you're doing high-end custom, then sell to rich people by making
stuff that rich people want. Cigar humidors, display or storage cases
for conspicuous consumption (firearms, collectibles). These all have
excellent margins, but the marketing costs are high. Chatting to
passengers on regional aircraft has worked for me - on a long-haul I'd
be back in steerage, but I sold a humidor just by getting stuck on the
tarmac for an extra hour next to my new client, and got talking
furniture.
Don't compete with things that are already available cheaply as
imports. I can't sell my sword racks to people who have several
thousand $ swords to display for more than $30, because that's all an
imported one costs.
It's doubly difficult to be a commercial woodworker, compared to a
hobbyist. Not only do you have to learn to do it well, but you have to
learn to do it quickly. Some of my "production" items are now less
than a quarter of the original time, just by making jigs and improving
the process.
>
>What can you sell ? Where are you selling it ?
>
I have in the past sold some items through local crafts/commision stores. The
kind of stores that you have to look hard to see tucked away in some rich
suburb. I have had some luck with large flower presses, and oval shaker boxes.
Was on the verge of producing some kids' 'puzzle chairs', shop owners were very
excited, but I ran out of time.
>Less than a hundred bucks, can be carried in one hand - the
>sort of thing that the moderately well heeled might buy on impulse, if
IF there is any suggestion that I will find of more value here than anything
else I have a feeling it is the above. It gives me not so much the "what" but
the WHY of it!
>Don't compete with things that are already available cheaply as
>imports.
I've noticed that some of the things I used to make or planned to, are now for
sale in el cheepo discount stores here in the states. My kids picked up some
pine Shaker Peg Board for a dollar and some change in a mark down bin at a
local "crafts" shop.
>It's doubly difficult to be a commercial woodworker, compared to a
>hobbyist.
I know, it is not that I want to be rich, I just want to provide some extra
income for my family, (wife has a job).
>Some of my "production" items are now less
>than a quarter of the original time, just by making jigs and improving
>the process.
My first item of a project/series ALWAYS took the longest...
ANDY DINGLEY, I wish to thank you, perhaps more than I can express here, and
wish you the best of luck in the UK.
Thu, Sep 4, 2003, 3:22pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (mmiller4342)
claims:
<snip> Was on the verge of producing some kids' 'puzzle chairs', shop
owners were very excited, but I ran out of time. <snip>
Well, why the Hell don't you make some now then?
Ran out of time? How is that meant? 'Cause it only takes me 5-10
minutes or so to make one. Never timed it yet, but it sure doesn't take
long at all.
JOAT
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I know I will hate myself for this but a quick and easy craft that sells
well is anything in SOS (sh*% on a stick). You have seen them the yard
ornaments that look like granny bending over in the garden type things. Now
is the time for anything to do with Halloween or Christmas. Find a catalog
with patterns and use that for inspiration. Then as soon a Christmas is
over go to REAL wood working. Oh yes local craft show to sell them.
>I know I will hate myself for this but a quick and easy craft that sells
>well is anything in SOS (sh*% on a stick). You have seen them the yard
>ornaments that look like granny bending over in the garden type things.
I've seen them too, just not very many in the upscale suburban town I live in.
I still have a few of the old catalogs that had 'plans' for such. Garden
markers seem easy and cheap too.
(compared some of the others who posted in response, you have NO need to 'hate'
yourself...) thanks for the reply, it helps.
> I've seen them too, just not very many in the upscale suburban town I live
in.
> I still have a few of the old catalogs that had 'plans' for such. Garden
> markers seem easy and cheap too.
> (compared some of the others who posted in response, you have NO need to
'hate'
> yourself...) thanks for the reply, it helps.
I don't think I have ever seen one in someones yard. At most local
craftshows they do seem to sell well though, especially the odd ones made
out of barn wood or fence posts.
"Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> 20hr work week? Real world? She must cut you one Hell of a lot of
> slack. And you stopped woodworking to take a 20hr a week job? Didn't
> have time to spare then, eh? Most people have 40hr work weeks, minimum.
Could it be that he showed up 40 hours a week, but only worked 20? I know
people like that.
Ed
"mmiller4342" <[email protected]> wrote in message
...
> My family is somewhat 'non-traditional' and I am
> giving thought to doing what I have always wanted to do and tried to do
once
> before. If you have some REAL suggestions they would be welcome.
If I had a REAL suggestion, I'd be doing it myself and probably not give
away my secret to others in my territory.
To make a quick buck, you need a gimmick, something that sets you apart.
Sort of like the hula hoop or pet rock. If you can develop a nice line of
small boxes and find the right outlet, you can do well. It takes time to
get the design just right. It must be attractive, sell for a fair price,
and you must refine the production so you can knock out a 6 hour project in
an hour. That presents other problems. It is realistic to achieve the 6 to
1 ratio. The problem, though, is that you are no longer a skilled
woodworker facing the challenges of making a hand crafted item, you are a
production worker with a job. If that is what you want, fine.
Another method is to develop a reputation for highly skilled specialty work.
That can take years though.
Ed
>Could it be that he showed up 40 hours a week, but only worked 20? I know
>people like that.
>Ed
DITTO. the post is a serious request. I am surprised that there are some who
perhaps dont read the news. That arent aware that SOME of us do live in the
real world and do lose jobs. My family is somewhat 'non-traditional' and I am
giving thought to doing what I have always wanted to do and tried to do once
before. If you have some REAL suggestions they would be welcome.