Fans of "How It's Made" TV Show Here?

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:48:19 -0700, Gunner Asch <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 05:41:04 -0400, "Joe" <-> wrote:
>
>>
>>Murpie is prolly one of those Flush Limpbaugh dittoheads that can't really
>>think for himself.
>>
>>He feels like a winner when he aligns himself with the money-grubbin
>>republicums.
>
>
>See the love and tolerence of the typical Libtard.

You can feel gummer's warmth ....
--
Cliff

My only complaint is it started out as "Comment C'est Fait" and was a
French Language only Show, Once Discovery realized Hey people are
interested they translated the voiceovers WITHOUT checking them
against the industry they came from.

IT drives me nuts

French Has less words than english so they use multiple words to
describe a process

English Has more words to specically describe a process

The Translators and poducers not checking against somone in the
industry for example call anything involving joining metals Soldering
(Safe episode a guy welding safes with a MIG welder was "Soldering the
safe") and there are rampant examples f it from early n in the series
(I think it took like 4 seasons before it was caught)

the Reason for it though is that in French the word for Soldering
Brazing and welding is ALL the same word which is literally soldering
But if you need to specify you say the process such as Soudure a Gaz
(Oxy-Fuel) or Soudure A TIG to specify.

(By the same logic a guy assembling circuit boards and one who welds
ships are both called a "Soudeur")

its one of those things that drives me nuts due to how easy it should
have been to check and catch and usually its NOT the slightest bit
difficult to check back and confirm.

On Jul 12, 8:03 am, "Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote:
> No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
>
> I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site that
> seems to have the same type of info in a different format...
>
> http://www.madehow.com/
>
> Regards,
> Joe Agro, Jr.
> (800) 871-5022
> 01.908.542.0244
> Automatic / Pneumatic Drills:http://www.AutoDrill.com
> Multiple Spindle Drills:http://www.Multi-Drill.com
>
> V8013-R

On Jul 12, 3:56 pm, "Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Me too, I've got all 8 seasons archived. Great show.
>
> Eight seasons?!? I've missed a lot then... Too bad it's not available via
> Blockbuster or Netflix online rentals...
> --
>
> Regards,
> Joe Agro, Jr.
> (800) 871-5022
> 01.908.542.0244
> Automatic / Pneumatic Drills:http://www.AutoDrill.com
> Multiple Spindle Drills:http://www.Multi-Drill.com
>
> V8013-R

i wonder how much discovery sells the seasons videos for?

Yes, it is filmed in Quebec which has its own version of French. Here in
Canada we get the English translation often with the wrong words because
trade terms and trade slang cannot be literally translated unless you know
the industry in both languages. I used to work in the natural gas utility
that had a Quebec division, and I had to get English translated into Quebec
French, our local translator could do OK on most copy but failed to know the
industry terms used in Quebec, we had to forward our translations for
approval/editing by the Quebec division.

On the show, they frequently use the wrong terms, mispronounce the correct
terms and many of the Canadian versions have a woman with a harsh irritating
voice. When I travel in the US I notice she is replaced by another voice
that is easier to listen to.



"Brent" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My only complaint is it started out as "Comment C'est Fait" and was a
> French Language only Show, Once Discovery realized Hey people are
> interested they translated the voiceovers WITHOUT checking them
> against the industry they came from.
>
> IT drives me nuts
>
> French Has less words than english so they use multiple words to
> describe a process
>
> English Has more words to specically describe a process
>
> The Translators and poducers not checking against somone in the
> industry for example call anything involving joining metals Soldering
> (Safe episode a guy welding safes with a MIG welder was "Soldering the
> safe") and there are rampant examples f it from early n in the series
> (I think it took like 4 seasons before it was caught)
>
> the Reason for it though is that in French the word for Soldering
> Brazing and welding is ALL the same word which is literally soldering
> But if you need to specify you say the process such as Soudure a Gaz
> (Oxy-Fuel) or Soudure A TIG to specify.
>
> (By the same logic a guy assembling circuit boards and one who welds
> ships are both called a "Soudeur")
>
> its one of those things that drives me nuts due to how easy it should
> have been to check and catch and usually its NOT the slightest bit
> difficult to check back and confirm.
>
> On Jul 12, 8:03 am, "Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
>>
>> I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site
>> that
>> seems to have the same type of info in a different format...
>>
>> http://www.madehow.com/
>>
>> Regards,
>> Joe Agro, Jr.
>> (800) 871-5022
>> 01.908.542.0244
>> Automatic / Pneumatic Drills:http://www.AutoDrill.com
>> Multiple Spindle Drills:http://www.Multi-Drill.com
>>
>> V8013-R
>
>

Joe AutoDrill wrote:
>
> No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
>
> I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site that
> seems to have the same type of info in a different format...
>
> http://www.madehow.com/
>
> Regards,
> Joe Agro, Jr.
> (800) 871-5022
> 01.908.542.0244
> Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
> Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
>
> V8013-R

I love the show. It's Canadian quirks just make it more amusing. I
suppose if I wasn't reasonably knowledgeable about most of what they
show then the mistranslation might be more of a problem.

It's great to see some of the amazing ingenuity on the various massive
production lines. The occasional surprise too, like that hard candy with
the text in it... Expected some big 50' long multi screw extruder, not
hand lay-up into a giant log.

Pete C.

Proctologically Violated©® wrote:

>"LLBrown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>>"Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:5Moli.18053$MV6.2728@trnddc01...
>>
>>>No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
>>>
>>>I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site
>>>that seems to have the same type of info in a different format...
>>>
>>I have a good laugh about "how it's made", can you think of ANY TV show
>>with lower production costs? I think the former record was held by the
>>PBS show that had a chopper flying over places, taking pictures and
>>setting it to mucsic. This show doesn't even have to hire a chopper, and
>>most of the time there is NO ONE in it.
>>
>
>This is the whole premise for most of the New Genre of ShitTV.
>Zero SAG costs.
>Some may be lower than others, but all are dert cheap, production-wise.
>
>Altho, as of late, the concentration of bullshit in ShitTV is so intense,
>they need more and more """writers""" and producers to
>choreograph/coordinate said bullshit.
>
>I remember a ditty on This Old House, the progenitor for all that followed
>house-wise, where it took about 15 takes to get a piece of goddamm sheetrock
>correct....
>Sleight of hand, even back then.
>
>Cain't get much cheaper than Mike Rowe, on Dirty Jobs.
>I mean, what's he got? Him, one camera guy, and an digital editor. And
>Mike, I bleeve, does his own writing/scripting.
>Intelligent guy. One of the few watchable programs.
>Wish he would do something more along the lines of "interesting jobs".
>Or, jobs period, to give a cross section of Merkin Werkin Class Misery.
>
Were you aware that a "Merkin" is a pubic wig as well as a corruption of
"American", it came up recently on the BBC program "Balderdash &
piffle". I makes your comment quite amusing. See
http://alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxmerkin.html , google also has
pictures of merkins.

>
>
>Whilst jobs still exist.
>

>>Were you aware that a "Merkin" is a pubic wig as well as a corruption of
>>"American", it came up recently on the BBC program "Balderdash & piffle".
>>I makes your comment quite amusing. See
>>http://alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxmerkin.html , google also has
>>pictures of merkins.
>>
>
>So I guess when I shorten my Great American Pubic (Public) to Merkin Pubic,
>it becomes semi-redundant, eh?
>I'll have to watch that.
>Boy, itsa small lexicographical world, idnit?? :)
>
>What was/is the purpose of a pubic wig, fergodsakes??
>
These days for decoration, a British burlesque artist has a diamond
studded merkin, but the word dates back hundreds of years and it was
suggested it was a vital tool of the prostitute trade back when they may
have had syphilitic sores and wanted to hide it from prospective customers.

Someone on the program joked it was quite appropriate calling you
merkins as you got a guy called Bush in charge.

>
>
>Every time I think our culture is guilty of unwarranted and unprecedented
>stupidity, I find out I'm wrong. :)
>

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "SteveB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > And yes, I do love to watch How's It Made, as their shows cover the
> > commonest of things, many of which I had wondered about. Many times, the
> > way they do it is so very simple, one wants to slap themself in the
> > forehead and say, "Duh!"
> >
> > Steve
>
> I'm often amazed at the common items that sell for a buck or two require
> some expensive and sophisticated machinery to accomplish the end result.
> Ed

Volume volume volume...

The segment on end mills was quite impressive. Makes you wonder why they
don't cost more than they do.

For the woodworkers, how about that coffin segment?

Pete C.

Winston wrote:
>
> Joe AutoDrill wrote:
> > No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
> >
> > I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site that
> > seems to have the same type of info in a different format...
>
> Terrific show.
>
> It'd be cool to see printed circuit boards stuffed and wave soldered too.
>
> --Winston


Wave solder is pretty much a thing of the past. Pick-n-place,
followed by a reflow ovens for surface mount components have pretty much
taken over. You can't see the actual reflow process, because you have
to be very careful of the oven profile for each type of board made on
that oven. BTDT with both the early "Pizza oven" type reflow oven,
followed by a new Heller oven.

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prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

> On 18 Jul 2007 04:37:49 GMT, D Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If people can't provide three squares a day for their own progeny,
>> perhaps they should be punished for being dirtbags, their kids taken
>> away, and put in a place where they are taken care of properly.

You are aware that putting children in foster care or an orphanage will
cost you a whole lot more of your precious tax dollars than free school
lunches do?

Monika.

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Joe <-> pinched out a steaming pile of<[email protected]>:

>
>"no spam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:w6%[email protected]...
>>
>> Closer than the other party but aside from that I have never seen a
demo
>> who didn't want to take my money and give it to some one else. The
same
>> for every union I've had to deal with.
>
>
>You ever notice how the filthy rich capitalist pigs always have their
hands
>out demanding corporate welfare tax breaks?
>
>
You ever notice how all the Katrina money went for football condos 100
miles from the coast?

Katrina aid going to inland luxury condos

The AP reports that “rich federal tax breaks designed to spur
rebuilding are flowing hundreds of miles inland to investors who are
buying up luxury condos.” The Gulf Opportunity Zone Act of 2005 granted
“generous tax benefits available to investors. Now, investors are
renting out luxury condos in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, which “got only heavy
rain and scattered wind damage from Katrina.” “It was supposed to be
about getting people..to put housing in New Orleans, Louisiana, or
Biloxi, Mississippi. It was not about condos in Tuscaloosa,” said a
developer.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/13/katrina-aid-going-to-inland-luxury-
condos/

no spam <[email protected]> pinched out a steaming pile
of<[email protected]>:

>>>> Closer than the other party but aside from that I have never seen
a
>> demo
>>>> who didn't want to take my money and give it to some one else.
The
>> same
>>>> for every union I've had to deal with.
>>>
>>>
>>>You ever notice how the filthy rich capitalist pigs always have
their
>> hands
>>>out demanding corporate welfare tax breaks?
>>>
>>>
>> You ever notice how all the Katrina money went for football condos
100
>> miles from the coast?
>>
>> Katrina aid going to inland luxury condos
>>
>> The AP reports that "rich federal tax breaks designed to spur
>> rebuilding are flowing hundreds of miles inland to investors who are
>> buying up luxury condos." The Gulf Opportunity Zone Act of 2005
granted
>> "generous tax benefits available to investors. Now, investors are
>> renting out luxury condos in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, which "got only
heavy
>> rain and scattered wind damage from Katrina." "It was supposed to be
>> about getting people..to put housing in New Orleans, Louisiana, or
>> Biloxi, Mississippi. It was not about condos in Tuscaloosa," said a
>> developer.
>
>Please don't confuse them with facts. Such as the fact that the demos
have
>given billions upon billions of other people's money to the 'poor' and
>'under class' and yet things are just as bad, if not worse, today then
when
>FDR/JFK/LBJ started their programs.
>
They got worse under Bush, dimmy.

Many of Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour’s associates have profited
from Hurricane Katrina. $15 billion or more in federal aid has flowed
into the state. “Among the beneficiaries are Barbour’s own family and
friends, who have earned hundreds of thousands of dollars from
hurricane-related business.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aG1fHyzJA56A

"no spam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >>> Closer than the other party but aside from that I have never seen a
> > demo
> >>> who didn't want to take my money and give it to some one else. The
> > same
> >>> for every union I've had to deal with.
> >>
> >>
> >>You ever notice how the filthy rich capitalist pigs always have their
> > hands
> >>out demanding corporate welfare tax breaks?
> >>
> >>
> > You ever notice how all the Katrina money went for football condos 100
> > miles from the coast?
> >
> > Katrina aid going to inland luxury condos
> >
> > The AP reports that "rich federal tax breaks designed to spur
> > rebuilding are flowing hundreds of miles inland to investors who are
> > buying up luxury condos." The Gulf Opportunity Zone Act of 2005 granted
> > "generous tax benefits available to investors. Now, investors are
> > renting out luxury condos in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, which "got only heavy
> > rain and scattered wind damage from Katrina." "It was supposed to be
> > about getting people..to put housing in New Orleans, Louisiana, or
> > Biloxi, Mississippi. It was not about condos in Tuscaloosa," said a
> > developer.
>
> Please don't confuse them with facts. Such as the fact that the demos
have
> given billions upon billions of other people's money to the 'poor' and
> 'under class' and yet things are just as bad, if not worse, today then
when
> FDR/JFK/LBJ started their programs.

It'll never work because people are just animals, after all.

"David Billington" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>
>>"LLBrown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>"Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:5Moli.18053$MV6.2728@trnddc01...
>>>
>>>>No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
>>>>
>>>>I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site
>>>>that seems to have the same type of info in a different format...
>>>>
>>>I have a good laugh about "how it's made", can you think of ANY TV show
>>>with lower production costs? I think the former record was held by the
>>>PBS show that had a chopper flying over places, taking pictures and
>>>setting it to mucsic. This show doesn't even have to hire a chopper,
>>>and most of the time there is NO ONE in it.
>>>
>>
>>This is the whole premise for most of the New Genre of ShitTV.
>>Zero SAG costs.
>>Some may be lower than others, but all are dert cheap, production-wise.
>>
>>Altho, as of late, the concentration of bullshit in ShitTV is so intense,
>>they need more and more """writers""" and producers to
>>choreograph/coordinate said bullshit.
>>
>>I remember a ditty on This Old House, the progenitor for all that followed
>>house-wise, where it took about 15 takes to get a piece of goddamm
>>sheetrock correct....
>>Sleight of hand, even back then.
>>
>>Cain't get much cheaper than Mike Rowe, on Dirty Jobs.
>>I mean, what's he got? Him, one camera guy, and an digital editor. And
>>Mike, I bleeve, does his own writing/scripting.
>>Intelligent guy. One of the few watchable programs.
>>Wish he would do something more along the lines of "interesting jobs".
>>Or, jobs period, to give a cross section of Merkin Werkin Class Misery.
>>
> Were you aware that a "Merkin" is a pubic wig as well as a corruption of
> "American", it came up recently on the BBC program "Balderdash & piffle".
> I makes your comment quite amusing. See
> http://alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxmerkin.html , google also has
> pictures of merkins.

So I guess when I shorten my Great American Pubic (Public) to Merkin Pubic,
it becomes semi-redundant, eh?
I'll have to watch that.
Boy, itsa small lexicographical world, idnit?? :)

What was/is the purpose of a pubic wig, fergodsakes??

Every time I think our culture is guilty of unwarranted and unprecedented
stupidity, I find out I'm wrong. :)
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>
>>
>>
>>Whilst jobs still exist.
>>
>

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:03:13 GMT, "Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
>
>I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site that
>seems to have the same type of info in a different format...

Count me as a fan.

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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:03:13 GMT, "Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site that
>seems to have the same type of info in a different format...

Me too, I've got all 8 seasons archived. Great show.

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:56:39 GMT, Joe AutoDrill wrote:

>> Me too, I've got all 8 seasons archived. Great show.
>
> Eight seasons?!? I've missed a lot then... Too bad it's not available via
> Blockbuster or Netflix online rentals...

WWW.tvtorrents.com
http://www.tvtorrents.com/loggedin/show.do?id=457
You will need a bitorrent client like Azureus. Season 7 and 8 online...

On 8 Aug 2007 03:42:24 GMT, D Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:

>Monika Krug <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>>> On 18 Jul 2007 04:37:49 GMT, D Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If people can't provide three squares a day for their own progeny,
>>>> perhaps they should be punished for being dirtbags, their kids taken
>>>> away, and put in a place where they are taken care of properly.
>>
>> You are aware that putting children in foster care or an orphanage will
>> cost you a whole lot more of your precious tax dollars than free school
>> lunches do?
>>
>
>So it's better to save money and have the child be neglected?
>
>Sorry. I don't think so.
>
>You must not be from here, tax dollars in the US are far from precious.
>They are squandered with reckless abandon. It would be a refreshing change
>of pace to have them spent on something worthwhile, like saving a kid from
>his or her worthless drug addicted parents.
>
>It's a question of morality. Do the rights of the parents outweigh the
>welfare of the child?
>
>I don't think they should. There is no excuse for not being able to feed
>you kid in this country, no matter your situation.
>
>I'm all for giving the kids back to the parents if the parents can get
>their act together.
>
>The only need for government subsidized hot lunches comes from politically
>connected contractors who want the business. There's zero need for hot
>lunches at school, let alone absurdly expensive, nutritionally substandard,
>"free" ones.

Wow! While I can agree with much of the first part of your email, I
cannot for the life of me understand how you can see school lunches,
at approximately $2.25 (including all subsidies from Federal, State
and local sources) per meal as "expensive". Have you eaten out
recently? As to nutritionally substandard, I do not think that you
have read any of the nutrition requirements that must be met by a
school lunch program in order to be eligible for federal subsidy. You
may or may not like the taste of whatever is being served at your
local program, but I would dare say that the nutritional values in the
whole meal are probably far above what most kids (poor, rich, middle
class, black, white, or green) are receiving at home for lunches.
Don't even start on the sugar coated carbs being served to most kids
for breakfast - when their (again poor, rich, middle class, black,
white, or green) parents get their asses out of bed early enough to
actually feed them breakfasts. Of all of the welfare programs in
existence, the least arguable one is the school lunch program, in my
opinion. They can't trade the meals in for drugs like food stamps or
housing vouchers. They can't destroy it like welfare housing. They
can't use it to buy $150 sneakers like welfare checks. It is food to
be consumed. Yeah, they can throw too much away, eat the crap portion
and leave the good stuff on the plate, etc., etc., but it is a direct
benefit to a child. Not to the lazy asses that can't or won't feed
them, not to some landlord that charges mansion rents on subsidized
hovels, not to guys driving 2007 caddys to the bank to cash the
welfare check. Wow!

Dave Hall

"Jim Chandler" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Joe AutoDrill wrote:
>
>> No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
>>
>> I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site
>> that seems to have the same type of info in a different format...
>>
>> http://www.madehow.com/
>>
>> Regards,
>> Joe Agro, Jr.
>> (800) 871-5022
>> 01.908.542.0244
>> Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
>> Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
>>
>> V8013-R
>>
>>
>>
>
> I like the show. I just wish they would go more into detail on the
> processes. I'd rather have two detailed items than four or five
> "quickies".

Amen--
Indeed, the pithy-er version of my rant.

Altho "wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am" did have some edumacational ring to it, no?
:)
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>
> Jim Chandler

I was in the orchestra for a local performance of "Disney on Parade". We
had set up when someone came over and told us we had to move 6 feet to the
right. The conductor threw a fit and said our union could not pick up a
music stand or , God forbid, a chair. After an hour or so of sitting some
stage hands came over and moved us. Not end of story.... after an hour of
rehearsal the director decided we were facing the wrong way and needed to
move again... this time, it was his idea and we were all directed to pick up
our stuff and move. How the tides change!

LLB

"Proctologically Violated©®" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> "B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:54:12 -0400, "Proctologically Violated©®"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Cain't get much cheaper than Mike Rowe, on Dirty Jobs.
>>>I mean, what's he got? Him, one camera guy, and an digital editor. And
>>>Mike, I bleeve, does his own writing/scripting.
>>>Intelligent guy. One of the few watchable programs.
>>
>> An excellent show!
>>
>> My wife likes Mike's pecs. <G>
>>
>> Ever seen Survivorman? That would really get your SAG dander up!
>> Imagine this... A guy with an idea makes up his own show, writes the
>> music. "performs it", films it, edits it, and doesn't have to pay a
>> bunch of do-nothings to sit around and collect union-scale!
>>
>> Are you a SAG member or a member of one of the various lame-ass
>> production unions?
>>
>> I used to love when one of my touring crew members slid a stage
>> monitor 5 feet, and the union house dickheads tried to organize a
>> penalty strike. All because nobody spent 1/2 hour+ trying to find and
>> peel one of them away from the crew buffet or outdoor smoking area
>> long enough to move it for us. <G>
>
> Did you say crew buffet?? !! <g>
>
> Not SAG, but my union occasionally crosses paths with their union, and I
> got to hang out with a bunch of extras, and the two gerlz who were
> priviledged enough to get paid SAG rates to massage Meg Ryan's feet, after
> an oh-so tiresome take of about 7.5 seconds. <whew>
>
> But man, the food was incredible!
>
> Yeah, they call it working "out of title" and unions get pretty bent
> overdat.
>
> Seems totally absurd to the outside world, is hated by management, and
> indeed violates many of the tenets of cooperation, altruism,
> efficiency/productivity, and all the other good things in a good world.
> But, the world in fact sucks, and this union mentality shit is a backlash
> to a long history of abuse, and likely much worse abuse in the future by
> management et al.
> There is an unfortunate logic to this, and to strict seniority systems
> (you know, where actual competence is irrelevant).
> It's really a pick-yer-poison type deal:
> Go fukn loony with a corrupt merit-based system (where everyone plays a
> kind of "office chicken" after 5 pm, to see who cracks and goes home
> first--I could do it 'til about 8-9 pm. Now I get paid by the literal
> minute. <g>)
> OR
> Get strangled by a brain-dead seniority system, but where you at least can
> stay sane, albeit a little recalcitrant (hey, dats not my job....)
>
> Unions will eventually lose The Battle by default, by definition, when
> there are simply no more jobs left, proportionately speaking.
>
> Malthus, donchaknow....
> Oh, and the P4 chip....
>
> We are headed toward an ass-fucking of cosmic proportions, of
> astronomically deep penetration--think black hole.
>
> And, basically, we have brought it on ourselves, with boucou help from the
> P4 chip.
> 1. We tip our philistinic hand every time we buy sumpn or click dat
> mouse, information-wise--sorta like playing fuknPoker with a camera behind
> our shoulder.
> 2. We've gone hog-wild over Reality TV and GirlsGonefuknWild, perhaps the
> most degenerate and reprobate pubic offering ever devised.
> 3. Speaking of Poker:
> If Golf wadn't bad enough, and as if ketchup were a vegetable, now
> Poker is sport-ish enough to be aired on ESPN--AND the Travel Channel.
> goodeffingawd.... Just HOW did DAT happen??????
>
> When the Bilderbergers saw us watching fuknPoker, that was the draw that
> broke the camel's hand <g>...
>
> We have so willingly eviscerated our own culture, we have essentially
> written the following message--in blood on whitewashed walls-- to the
> Powers Dat Be (the Bilderbergers, of course):
> "Whatever crumbs you thought we might have deserved, QOL-wise, as your
> Servant Rabble, we shall show you that that was far too generous, and
> really all we are worthy of is a mile-long trough of flowing slop, running
> water in our gutters to eventually move the old feces along, cots in
> windowless zinc-roofed barracks so we can at least fuck (variously) at
> night, and old 55 gal chemical drums to catch the fresh water runoff from
> said zinc roofs."
>
> And bleeve me, dats exactly what we're headed for.
>
> Start practicing yer dumpster-diving NOW, muthafuckas, cuz it's gonna get
> real competitive perty soon.
> We may not even need running water in our gutters to move the feces along
> in the gutters--there might be enough blood for that.
> --
> ------
> Mr. P.V.'d (formerly Droll Troll), Yonkers, NY
>
> Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
> Absolutely Vote, but NOT for a Democrat or a Republican.
> Ending Corruption in Congress is the *Single Best Way*
> to Materially Improve Your Family's Life.
> The Solution is so simple--and inexpensive!
>
> entropic3.14decay at optonline2.718 dot net; remove pi and e to reply--ie,
> all d'numbuhs
>
>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> ** http://www.bburke.com/woodworking.html **
>> ---------------------------------------------
>
>

--
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"Winston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Lqdmi.575$I76.222@trnddc05...
> gordo wrote:
>
> > Assembly woman tells John " don't put those little coils in backwards or
the
> > board will explode...." :-)
>
> Ah yes. those treacherous polarized inductors.
>
> --Winston
Those puck marks were a dead giveaway. She forgot to use the AC battery

Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
> "LLBrown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:5Moli.18053$MV6.2728@trnddc01...
>>> No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
>>>
>>> I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site
>>> that seems to have the same type of info in a different format...
>>>
>> I have a good laugh about "how it's made", can you think of ANY TV show
>> with lower production costs? I think the former record was held by the
>> PBS show that had a chopper flying over places, taking pictures and
>> setting it to mucsic. This show doesn't even have to hire a chopper, and
>> most of the time there is NO ONE in it.

Regardless of the production costs, they still
manage to take a camera in and up close to machines
and processes that an average citizen would never
be able to see. That's the value of the show.

"Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:5Moli.18053$MV6.2728@trnddc01...
> No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
>
> I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site that
> seems to have the same type of info in a different format...
>

I have a good laugh about "how it's made", can you think of ANY TV show with
lower production costs? I think the former record was held by the PBS show
that had a chopper flying over places, taking pictures and setting it to
mucsic. This show doesn't even have to hire a chopper, and most of the
time there is NO ONE in it.

About the metal spinning and how easy it looked (another fellow brought it
up).... it does LOOK easy, almost any craft does when watching experts. I
expect I would wind up with my blood all over the walls. There is a
spinning video on youtube and the spinner is missing a couple of fingers.

LLB

"Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:5Moli.18053$MV6.2728@trnddc01...
> No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
>
> I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site that
> seems to have the same type of info in a different format...
>
> http://www.madehow.com/
>
> Regards,
> Joe Agro, Jr.
> (800) 871-5022
> 01.908.542.0244
> Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
> Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
>
> V8013-R
>


Plonk

--

"Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:5Moli.18053$MV6.2728@trnddc01...
> No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
>
> I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site that
> seems to have the same type of info in a different format...
>
> http://www.madehow.com/
>
> Regards,
> Joe Agro, Jr.
> (800) 871-5022
> 01.908.542.0244
> Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
> Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
>
> V8013-R
>


Plonk

--

gordo wrote:

> Assembly woman tells John " don't put those little coils in backwards or the
> board will explode...." :-)

Ah yes. those treacherous polarized inductors.

--Winston

"David Billington" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
>>>Were you aware that a "Merkin" is a pubic wig as well as a corruption of
>>>"American", it came up recently on the BBC program "Balderdash & piffle".
>>>I makes your comment quite amusing. See
>>>http://alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxmerkin.html , google also has
>>>pictures of merkins.
>>>
>>
>>So I guess when I shorten my Great American Pubic (Public) to Merkin
>>Pubic, it becomes semi-redundant, eh?
>>I'll have to watch that.
>>Boy, itsa small lexicographical world, idnit?? :)
>>
>>What was/is the purpose of a pubic wig, fergodsakes??
>>
> These days for decoration, a British burlesque artist has a diamond
> studded merkin, but the word dates back hundreds of years and it was
> suggested it was a vital tool of the prostitute trade back when they may
> have had syphilitic sores and wanted to hide it from prospective
> customers.
>
> Someone on the program joked it was quite appropriate calling you merkins
> as you got a guy called Bush in charge.

Hilarious.
Indeed, speaking of syphilitic political sores.
That has, essentially, infected the world.

Codpieces were jeweled, as well.
Family jewels?? :)
--
------
Mr. P.V.'d (formerly Droll Troll), Yonkers, NY

Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
Absolutely Vote, but NOT for a Democrat or a Republican.
Ending Corruption in Congress is the *Single Best Way*
to Materially Improve Your Family's Life.
The Solution is so simple--and inexpensive!

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all d'numbuhs


>
>>
>>
>>Every time I think our culture is guilty of unwarranted and unprecedented
>>stupidity, I find out I'm wrong. :)
>>
>

"Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:V0uli.2169$YH3.1408@trnddc08...
> "Proctologically Violated©®" <[email protected]> wrote
> in message news:[email protected]...
>> Dan Murphy here on AMC posts links to videos of machining stuff once in a
>> while.
>> Some really neat stuff.
>
> Wow. I think this is the first post I've ever read by you that didn't
> have a word spelled in PVspeak... <evil grin>

My bad...
Should have read,

"Some really neat stuff, yo."

Note:
Since "yo" and "bea" are essentially syntactically equivalent, one can use
them interchangeably, pretty much at one's caprice.... bea.

Methinks we have too much free time. :)
--
------
Mr. P.V.'d (formerly Droll Troll), Yonkers, NY

Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
Absolutely Vote, but NOT for a Democrat or a Republican.
Ending Corruption in Congress is the *Single Best Way*
to Materially Improve Your Family's Life.
The Solution is so simple--and inexpensive!

entropic3.14decay at optonline2.718 dot net; remove pi and e to reply--ie,
all d'numbuhs

>
> Regards,
> Joe Agro, Jr.
> (800) 871-5022
> 01.908.542.0244
> Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
> Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
>
> V8013-R
>
>
>

Joe AutoDrill wrote:
> No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
>
> I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site that
> seems to have the same type of info in a different format...

Terrific show.

It'd be cool to see printed circuit boards stuffed and wave soldered too.

--Winston

"Proctologically Violated©®" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Dan Murphy here on AMC posts links to videos of machining stuff once in a
> while.
> Some really neat stuff.

Wow. I think this is the first post I've ever read by you that didn't have
a word spelled in PVspeak... <evil grin>

Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com

V8013-R

> Me too, I've got all 8 seasons archived. Great show.

Eight seasons?!? I've missed a lot then... Too bad it's not available via
Blockbuster or Netflix online rentals...
--


Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com

V8013-R

"Proctologically Violated©®" <[email protected]>
wrote in news:[email protected]:

> Dan Murphy here on AMC posts links to videos of machining stuff once
> in a while.
> Some really neat stuff.

Here's most of what I have up at the mo'

<http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=tsugami+cnc>

Or I guess you could follow the link in the sig <duh> I forgot about that.

--

Dan

CNC Videos - <http://tinyurl.com/yzdt6d>

Cliff <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:57:18 -0400, "Proctologically Violated©®"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>as if ketchup were a vegetable
>
> An interesting question indeed.
> The US Supreme court sez that it is (but only in the US
> I expect .. perhaps including Iraq ...)
> But ronnie raygun tried to count a packet of it as a vegetable
> (school lunch nutritional facts & conservative values) ....
>
> Perhaps we should also ask what the difference is
> between a motel & a hotel ... only hotels can use "hotel" ...

Pehaps you should ask why we should be providing a free lunch in the
first place. Instead of pissing and moaning about some proposed policy
change from a quarter century ago.

If people can't provide three squares a day for their own progeny,
perhaps they should be punished for being dirtbags, their kids taken
away, and put in a place where they are taken care of properly. At least
until such a time as the "parents" get their acts together. Sheesh. Even
if you are on food stamps the least you can do is get your lazy ass out
of bed in the morning and slap together a PB&J for the little bastards to
take to school for lunch.

Did you raise any children? Did you feed them?

You have the sensibilities of a four year old child. Or is that your
"liberal values" shining through?

--

Dan

CNC Videos - <http://tinyurl.com/yzdt6d>

Monika Krug <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>> On 18 Jul 2007 04:37:49 GMT, D Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> If people can't provide three squares a day for their own progeny,
>>> perhaps they should be punished for being dirtbags, their kids taken
>>> away, and put in a place where they are taken care of properly.
>
> You are aware that putting children in foster care or an orphanage will
> cost you a whole lot more of your precious tax dollars than free school
> lunches do?
>

So it's better to save money and have the child be neglected?

Sorry. I don't think so.

You must not be from here, tax dollars in the US are far from precious.
They are squandered with reckless abandon. It would be a refreshing change
of pace to have them spent on something worthwhile, like saving a kid from
his or her worthless drug addicted parents.

It's a question of morality. Do the rights of the parents outweigh the
welfare of the child?

I don't think they should. There is no excuse for not being able to feed
you kid in this country, no matter your situation.

I'm all for giving the kids back to the parents if the parents can get
their act together.

The only need for government subsidized hot lunches comes from politically
connected contractors who want the business. There's zero need for hot
lunches at school, let alone absurdly expensive, nutritionally substandard,
"free" ones.

--

Dan

CNC Videos - <http://tinyurl.com/yzdt6d>

Joe AutoDrill wrote:

> No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
>
> I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site that
> seems to have the same type of info in a different format...
>
> http://www.madehow.com/
>
> Regards,
> Joe Agro, Jr.
> (800) 871-5022
> 01.908.542.0244
> Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
> Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
>
> V8013-R
>
>
>

I like the show. I just wish they would go more into detail on the
processes. I'd rather have two detailed items than four or five "quickies".

Jim Chandler

<<My only complaint is it started out as "Comment C'est Fait" and was a
French Language only Show, Once Discovery realized Hey people are
interested they translated the voiceovers WITHOUT checking them
against the industry they came from.>>

At least on How It's Made they have a narrator who appears to be a native
English speaker. Discovery (Science Channel) has another French Canadian
show that they have run using a woman who, although she does not have a
pronounced accent, is clearly a native French speaker who also happens to
know English. She occasionally uses idioms that sound odd in English. It
is possible that during her narration she might have spotted those and
pointed them out to the producer who chose to ignore her suggestions, or she
might have been hesitiant or afraid to say anything and kept her thoughts to
herself. It's more likely that she simply didn't pick up on them. There
have been other instances where she has mispronouced some common, everyday
words that no native speaker would.

Lee


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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:08:24 -0500, "LLBrown"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:5Moli.18053$MV6.2728@trnddc01...
>> No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
>>
>> I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site that
>> seems to have the same type of info in a different format...
>>
>
>I have a good laugh about "how it's made", can you think of ANY TV show with
>lower production costs? I think the former record was held by the PBS show
>that had a chopper flying over places, taking pictures and setting it to
>mucsic. This show doesn't even have to hire a chopper, and most of the
>time there is NO ONE in it.
>
>About the metal spinning and how easy it looked (another fellow brought it
>up).... it does LOOK easy, almost any craft does when watching experts. I
>expect I would wind up with my blood all over the walls. There is a
>spinning video on youtube and the spinner is missing a couple of fingers.
>
>LLB
>
===========
FWIW
http://lindsaybks.com/prod/allbks.html
Machinery Reference #57 Metal Spinning
21370
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Unka' George [George McDuffee]
============
Merchants have no country.
The mere spot they stand on
does not constitute so strong an attachment
as that from which they draw their gains.

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826),
U.S. president. Letter, 17 March 1814.

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:59:35 -0700, Brent <[email protected]>
wrote:

>My only complaint is it started out as "Comment C'est Fait" and was a
>French Language only Show, Once Discovery realized Hey people are
>interested they translated the voiceovers WITHOUT checking them
>against the industry they came from.

The original is in English, I've got the entire series, straight from
Canada, with the original Canadian voiceover. All English.

>>> Closer than the other party but aside from that I have never seen a
> demo
>>> who didn't want to take my money and give it to some one else. The
> same
>>> for every union I've had to deal with.
>>
>>
>>You ever notice how the filthy rich capitalist pigs always have their
> hands
>>out demanding corporate welfare tax breaks?
>>
>>
> You ever notice how all the Katrina money went for football condos 100
> miles from the coast?
>
> Katrina aid going to inland luxury condos
>
> The AP reports that "rich federal tax breaks designed to spur
> rebuilding are flowing hundreds of miles inland to investors who are
> buying up luxury condos." The Gulf Opportunity Zone Act of 2005 granted
> "generous tax benefits available to investors. Now, investors are
> renting out luxury condos in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, which "got only heavy
> rain and scattered wind damage from Katrina." "It was supposed to be
> about getting people..to put housing in New Orleans, Louisiana, or
> Biloxi, Mississippi. It was not about condos in Tuscaloosa," said a
> developer.

Please don't confuse them with facts. Such as the fact that the demos have
given billions upon billions of other people's money to the 'poor' and
'under class' and yet things are just as bad, if not worse, today then when
FDR/JFK/LBJ started their programs.

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:57:18 -0400, "Proctologically Violated©®"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>as if ketchup were a vegetable

An interesting question indeed.
The US Supreme court sez that it is (but only in the US
I expect .. perhaps including Iraq ...)
But ronnie raygun tried to count a packet of it as a vegetable
(school lunch nutritional facts & conservative values) ....

Perhaps we should also ask what the difference is
between a motel & a hotel ... only hotels can use "hotel" ...
--
Cliff

On 18 Jul 2007 04:37:49 GMT, D Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:

>Cliff <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:57:18 -0400, "Proctologically Violated©®"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>as if ketchup were a vegetable
>>
>> An interesting question indeed.
>> The US Supreme court sez that it is (but only in the US
>> I expect .. perhaps including Iraq ...)
>> But ronnie raygun tried to count a packet of it as a vegetable
>> (school lunch nutritional facts & conservative values) ....
>>
>> Perhaps we should also ask what the difference is
>> between a motel & a hotel ... only hotels can use "hotel" ...
>
>Pehaps you should ask why we should be providing a free lunch in the
>first place. Instead of pissing and moaning about some proposed policy
>change from a quarter century ago.

Since when are fruits vegetables?
Or making a packet of ketchup a vegetable for counting
nutritional needs a good idea?

>If people can't provide three squares a day for their own progeny,
>perhaps they should be punished for being dirtbags, their kids taken
>away, and put in a place where they are taken care of properly. At least
>until such a time as the "parents" get their acts together. Sheesh. Even
>if you are on food stamps the least you can do is get your lazy ass out
>of bed in the morning and slap together a PB&J for the little bastards to
>take to school for lunch.

So you are in favor of "food stamps"? Do they take them at the
schools for hot meals?

>Did you raise any children? Did you feed them?
>
>You have the sensibilities of a four year old child. Or is that your
>"liberal values" shining through?

I know both what a fruit is and what a legal US hotel is <G>.
--
Cliff

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:01:15 -0400, "Proctologically Violated©®"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>It seems similar to Ratzenberger's Made in Merka, altho I haven't seen
>enough of either to thoroughly compare.
>Ditto some of the Modern Marvels stuff on History Channel.


Google "Industry on Parade". You can find some of the video online

Gunner

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"Monika Krug" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> On 18 Jul 2007 04:37:49 GMT, D Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> If people can't provide three squares a day for their own progeny,
>>> perhaps they should be punished for being dirtbags, their kids taken
>>> away, and put in a place where they are taken care of properly.
>
> You are aware that putting children in foster care or an orphanage will
> cost you a whole lot more of your precious tax dollars than free school
> lunches do?
>
> Monika.
>

Murpie is prolly one of those Flush Limpbaugh dittoheads that can't really
think for himself.

He feels like a winner when he aligns himself with the money-grubbin
republicums.

"no spam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:w6%[email protected]...
>
> Closer than the other party but aside from that I have never seen a demo
> who didn't want to take my money and give it to some one else. The same
> for every union I've had to deal with.


You ever notice how the filthy rich capitalist pigs always have their hands
out demanding corporate welfare tax breaks?

Yup! I wonder what those religious dittoheads were thinking when old
Limpbaugh got caught by customs with a suitcase full of Viagra comming back
from his weekend with the boys.

"Cliff" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 05:41:04 -0400, "Joe" <-> wrote:
>
> They are, after all, THE "god party", right?
> http://online.logcabin.org/
> --
> Cliff
>

"Winston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:TzCli.4587$mS3.397@trnddc03...
> Joe AutoDrill wrote:
>> No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
>>
>> I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site
>> that seems to have the same type of info in a different format...
>
> Terrific show.
>
> It'd be cool to see printed circuit boards stuffed and wave soldered too.
>
> --Winston
I just watched Ratzenberger's show the other day which showed him trying to
stuff circuit boards,then wave soldering circuit boards which go into fire
alarm pull boxes.
Assembly woman tells John " don't put those little coils in backwards or the
board will explode...." :-)

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:18:04 +1200, Geoff
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:56:39 GMT, Joe AutoDrill wrote:
>
>>> Me too, I've got all 8 seasons archived. Great show.
>>
>> Eight seasons?!? I've missed a lot then... Too bad it's not available via
>> Blockbuster or Netflix online rentals...
>
>WWW.tvtorrents.com
>http://www.tvtorrents.com/loggedin/show.do?id=457
>You will need a bitorrent client like Azureus. Season 7 and 8 online...


You forgot to mention the need to contribute money to buy 'credits' or
upload a show that isn't already on there.

I'd sooner give money to that evil money grabbing bastard Murdoch than
fund a private torrent site.


--

"B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:54:12 -0400, "Proctologically Violated©®"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Cain't get much cheaper than Mike Rowe, on Dirty Jobs.
>>I mean, what's he got? Him, one camera guy, and an digital editor. And
>>Mike, I bleeve, does his own writing/scripting.
>>Intelligent guy. One of the few watchable programs.
>
> An excellent show!
>
> My wife likes Mike's pecs. <G>
>
> Ever seen Survivorman? That would really get your SAG dander up!
> Imagine this... A guy with an idea makes up his own show, writes the
> music. "performs it", films it, edits it, and doesn't have to pay a
> bunch of do-nothings to sit around and collect union-scale!
>
> Are you a SAG member or a member of one of the various lame-ass
> production unions?
>
> I used to love when one of my touring crew members slid a stage
> monitor 5 feet, and the union house dickheads tried to organize a
> penalty strike. All because nobody spent 1/2 hour+ trying to find and
> peel one of them away from the crew buffet or outdoor smoking area
> long enough to move it for us. <G>

Did you say crew buffet?? !! <g>

Not SAG, but my union occasionally crosses paths with their union, and I got
to hang out with a bunch of extras, and the two gerlz who were priviledged
enough to get paid SAG rates to massage Meg Ryan's feet, after an oh-so
tiresome take of about 7.5 seconds. <whew>

But man, the food was incredible!

Yeah, they call it working "out of title" and unions get pretty bent
overdat.

Seems totally absurd to the outside world, is hated by management, and
indeed violates many of the tenets of cooperation, altruism,
efficiency/productivity, and all the other good things in a good world.
But, the world in fact sucks, and this union mentality shit is a backlash to
a long history of abuse, and likely much worse abuse in the future by
management et al.
There is an unfortunate logic to this, and to strict seniority systems (you
know, where actual competence is irrelevant).
It's really a pick-yer-poison type deal:
Go fukn loony with a corrupt merit-based system (where everyone plays a kind
of "office chicken" after 5 pm, to see who cracks and goes home first--I
could do it 'til about 8-9 pm. Now I get paid by the literal minute. <g>)
OR
Get strangled by a brain-dead seniority system, but where you at least can
stay sane, albeit a little recalcitrant (hey, dats not my job....)

Unions will eventually lose The Battle by default, by definition, when there
are simply no more jobs left, proportionately speaking.

Malthus, donchaknow....
Oh, and the P4 chip....

We are headed toward an ass-fucking of cosmic proportions, of astronomically
deep penetration--think black hole.

And, basically, we have brought it on ourselves, with boucou help from the
P4 chip.
1. We tip our philistinic hand every time we buy sumpn or click dat mouse,
information-wise--sorta like playing fuknPoker with a camera behind our
shoulder.
2. We've gone hog-wild over Reality TV and GirlsGonefuknWild, perhaps the
most degenerate and reprobate pubic offering ever devised.
3. Speaking of Poker:
If Golf wadn't bad enough, and as if ketchup were a vegetable, now Poker
is sport-ish enough to be aired on ESPN--AND the Travel Channel.
goodeffingawd.... Just HOW did DAT happen??????

When the Bilderbergers saw us watching fuknPoker, that was the draw that
broke the camel's hand <g>...

We have so willingly eviscerated our own culture, we have essentially
written the following message--in blood on whitewashed walls-- to the Powers
Dat Be (the Bilderbergers, of course):
"Whatever crumbs you thought we might have deserved, QOL-wise, as your
Servant Rabble, we shall show you that that was far too generous, and really
all we are worthy of is a mile-long trough of flowing slop, running water in
our gutters to eventually move the old feces along, cots in windowless
zinc-roofed barracks so we can at least fuck (variously) at night, and old
55 gal chemical drums to catch the fresh water runoff from said zinc roofs."

And bleeve me, dats exactly what we're headed for.

Start practicing yer dumpster-diving NOW, muthafuckas, cuz it's gonna get
real competitive perty soon.
We may not even need running water in our gutters to move the feces along in
the gutters--there might be enough blood for that.
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"Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:5Moli.18053$MV6.2728@trnddc01...
> No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
>
> I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site that
> seems to have the same type of info in a different format...
>
> http://www.madehow.com/
>
> Regards,
> Joe Agro, Jr.

Years ago, I worked conventions for a long time. We had one called "the
pack show" which consisted of machines used in automated packaging of
anything. Whole car wash assemblies, whole dry cleaners assemblies, whole
manufacturing assembles, as well as thousands of small individual special
function machines. It was fascinating to go to the show when it was up and
running, and see how they do it. They were packaging things faster than you
could see. The really interesting ones had shape recognition, and would
align the contents by computer recognition before packaging. Like I say,
fun to go and watch.

And yes, I do love to watch How's It Made, as their shows cover the
commonest of things, many of which I had wondered about. Many times, the
way they do it is so very simple, one wants to slap themself in the forehead
and say, "Duh!"

Steve

Unions are GREAT. (If you're a business agent, and official, or part of the
staff.)

Steve

"SteveB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> And yes, I do love to watch How's It Made, as their shows cover the
> commonest of things, many of which I had wondered about. Many times, the
> way they do it is so very simple, one wants to slap themself in the
> forehead and say, "Duh!"
>
> Steve

I'm often amazed at the common items that sell for a buck or two require
some expensive and sophisticated machinery to accomplish the end result.
Ed

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 05:41:04 -0400, "Joe" <-> wrote:

>
>Murpie is prolly one of those Flush Limpbaugh dittoheads that can't really
>think for himself.
>
>He feels like a winner when he aligns himself with the money-grubbin
>republicums.


See the love and tolerence of the typical Libtard.


Gunner

It seems similar to Ratzenberger's Made in Merka, altho I haven't seen
enough of either to thoroughly compare.
Ditto some of the Modern Marvels stuff on History Channel.

I find, tho, a kind of wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am quality to many of these
shows, in that when all is said and done, I often haven't taken away a lot,
ito of real understanding.
Yeah, I see a lotta shit goin on, and yeah, most it's inneresting
(entertaining??), but none of it really "registers"....
Could be my ADHD/diluted meds......

But, occasionally you do see something you can relate to.
For example, on Made in Merka, with U.S. Pole (no foolin, an outside
lighting company using, you guessed it, big-assed poles), I saw spinning for
the first time, and saw immediately that any muthafucka with a lathe and a
handmade wooden die, and some kind of lever, can spin!

But, as long as they don't stick in this unRealityTV Merkin Chopper-type
emotional fukndrama, I cain't complain too much.
Literally cain't watch 'Chopper (it went from interesting to peculiar to
just bad to nauseating), or any of those other bullshit car shows, anymore.
Esp. the ghetto ones. goodgawd..... yo.

What is always at once fascinating and quite intimidating is looking at
these gonzo facilities and all the mechanization (and computerization), with
the realization that Sheeit, all that shit is a *custom made one-off*, just
for that application! wow...
Be it flipping KrispyfuknCreme donuts, bagging Lays taterchips, bottling
soders, putting soles on shoes, making tires, whatever, I always ask,
Goodgawd, just how much did all that mechanized artistry *cost*, and how did
they goddamm AFFORD it????

Wow....

Makes moms'n'pops seem like a miracle.

And,
In what's left of my conspiracy-theorized brain, I wonder if all this isn't
by some design, where through the guise of entertainment/edumacation, some
*intimidation* is not going on....
Or, put alternatively,
My dick is so fukn big you all better not even pull yours's out....
Another way of keeping the rabble in place, chewing their low-carb cud, and
swilling Coke.

Along these lines, my own 15" is somewhat of a solace, but not much, since
ahm *still* fukn broke.
Not as broke as jb, or as unstable (cuz my case my bennies cover my meds),
but still, perty broke....

Oh shit, Paris just came on..... gotta go.
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"Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:5Moli.18053$MV6.2728@trnddc01...
> No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
>
> I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site that
> seems to have the same type of info in a different format...
>
> http://www.madehow.com/
>
> Regards,
> Joe Agro, Jr.
> (800) 871-5022
> 01.908.542.0244
> Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
> Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
>
> V8013-R
>
>
>

> My only complaint is it started out as "Comment C'est Fait" and was a
> French Language only Show, Once Discovery realized Hey people are
> interested they translated the voiceovers WITHOUT checking them
> against the industry they came from.
>
> IT drives me nuts

I noticed that... There is a web site somewhere that has a lot of the older
shows archived... When I first got bit by the bug to see the shows...
Someone sent me the link and I spent about 18 hours straight at my PC
watching episodes of all the shows they had...

Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com

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"Proctologically Violated"

LOL! As one who just returned a few hours ago from qualifying, I just had to
say how GOOD it is to get the twice-a-decade colonoscopy out of the way.

I was hoping technology had changed in the interim, but that damn gallon of
powdered wine they make you drink still _blows_ ... no pun intended!

--
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Last update: 6/1/07
KarlC@ (the obvious)

Unions are nothing more than poker chips in politicians pocket.
They are the white man's NAACP with the real benifits going to the groups
leaders while the rank and file Pay,Pay ,Pay Legalized extorsion plain
and simple.
Yes ...there was a time when unions were the savior of working class ...but
... like $.50 a gallon gas it's no more ten a memory

Dan Murphy here on AMC posts links to videos of machining stuff once in a
while.
Some really neat stuff.
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"Jim Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
>> "LLBrown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> "Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:5Moli.18053$MV6.2728@trnddc01...
>>>> No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
>>>>
>>>> I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site
>>>> that seems to have the same type of info in a different format...
>>>>
>>> I have a good laugh about "how it's made", can you think of ANY TV show
>>> with lower production costs? I think the former record was held by the
>>> PBS show that had a chopper flying over places, taking pictures and
>>> setting it to mucsic. This show doesn't even have to hire a chopper,
>>> and most of the time there is NO ONE in it.
>
> Regardless of the production costs, they still
> manage to take a camera in and up close to machines
> and processes that an average citizen would never
> be able to see. That's the value of the show.

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:54:12 -0400, "Proctologically Violated©®"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Cain't get much cheaper than Mike Rowe, on Dirty Jobs.
>I mean, what's he got? Him, one camera guy, and an digital editor. And
>Mike, I bleeve, does his own writing/scripting.
>Intelligent guy. One of the few watchable programs.

An excellent show!

My wife likes Mike's pecs. <G>

Ever seen Survivorman? That would really get your SAG dander up!
Imagine this... A guy with an idea makes up his own show, writes the
music. "performs it", films it, edits it, and doesn't have to pay a
bunch of do-nothings to sit around and collect union-scale!

Are you a SAG member or a member of one of the various lame-ass
production unions?

I used to love when one of my touring crew members slid a stage
monitor 5 feet, and the union house dickheads tried to organize a
penalty strike. All because nobody spent 1/2 hour+ trying to find and
peel one of them away from the crew buffet or outdoor smoking area
long enough to move it for us. <G>

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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 05:41:04 -0400, "Joe" <-> wrote:

>
>"Monika Krug" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>> On 18 Jul 2007 04:37:49 GMT, D Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If people can't provide three squares a day for their own progeny,
>>>> perhaps they should be punished for being dirtbags, their kids taken
>>>> away, and put in a place where they are taken care of properly.
>>
>> You are aware that putting children in foster care or an orphanage will
>> cost you a whole lot more of your precious tax dollars than free school
>> lunches do?
>>
>> Monika.
>>
>
>Murpie is prolly one of those Flush Limpbaugh dittoheads that can't really
>think for himself.
>
>He feels like a winner when he aligns himself with the money-grubbin
>republicums.

They are, after all, THE "god party", right?
http://online.logcabin.org/
--
Cliff

>>>>> If people can't provide three squares a day for their own progeny,
>>>>> perhaps they should be punished for being dirtbags, their kids taken
>>>>> away, and put in a place where they are taken care of properly.
>>>
>>> You are aware that putting children in foster care or an orphanage will
>>> cost you a whole lot more of your precious tax dollars than free school
>>> lunches do?
>>>
>>> Monika.
>>>
>>
>>Murpie is prolly one of those Flush Limpbaugh dittoheads that can't really
>>think for himself.
>>
>>He feels like a winner when he aligns himself with the money-grubbin
>>republicums.
>
> They are, after all, THE "god party", right?
> http://online.logcabin.org/

Closer than the other party but aside from that I have never seen a demo who
didn't want to take my money and give it to some one else. The same for
every union I've had to deal with.

That and the fact that unions seem to do nothing other than make sure the
slackers and other useless slugs don't get fired and get promoted because
they have seniority not because they are better workers.

I've made more money faster at EVERY non-union job I've worked than any
union job. Starting pay was a little less (although if you add in the money
spent on union dues it was really close) but I didn't have to wait for years
to move up. Of course I'm a smart, hard working guy who does something if I
see it needs to be done and not a "that ain't my job" union type.

"LLBrown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Joe AutoDrill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:5Moli.18053$MV6.2728@trnddc01...
>> No... I don't work for them, get $ or anything else...
>>
>> I'm a huge fan of the TV show and now this is an interesting web site
>> that seems to have the same type of info in a different format...
>>
>
> I have a good laugh about "how it's made", can you think of ANY TV show
> with lower production costs? I think the former record was held by the
> PBS show that had a chopper flying over places, taking pictures and
> setting it to mucsic. This show doesn't even have to hire a chopper, and
> most of the time there is NO ONE in it.

This is the whole premise for most of the New Genre of ShitTV.
Zero SAG costs.
Some may be lower than others, but all are dert cheap, production-wise.

Altho, as of late, the concentration of bullshit in ShitTV is so intense,
they need more and more """writers""" and producers to
choreograph/coordinate said bullshit.

I remember a ditty on This Old House, the progenitor for all that followed
house-wise, where it took about 15 takes to get a piece of goddamm sheetrock
correct....
Sleight of hand, even back then.

Cain't get much cheaper than Mike Rowe, on Dirty Jobs.
I mean, what's he got? Him, one camera guy, and an digital editor. And
Mike, I bleeve, does his own writing/scripting.
Intelligent guy. One of the few watchable programs.
Wish he would do something more along the lines of "interesting jobs".
Or, jobs period, to give a cross section of Merkin Werkin Class Misery.

Whilst jobs still exist.
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>
> About the metal spinning and how easy it looked (another fellow brought it
> up).... it does LOOK easy, almost any craft does when watching experts. I
> expect I would wind up with my blood all over the walls. There is a
> spinning video on youtube and the spinner is missing a couple of fingers.
>
> LLB
>
>