Jh

John

29/11/2005 10:30 PM

waste basket dimension needed

Hi,
I would like to make a round waste basket that is 12" round at the
top and 8" at the bottom. I will be using 2"x1/4" hardwood slats. Is
there some simple formula that I can use to figure out how wide the
bottom part of the slats will be tapered, the angle to cut the edge
and how many slats will be needed?
Many Thanks,
John


This topic has 4 replies

CF

Chris Friesen

in reply to John on 29/11/2005 10:30 PM

29/11/2005 11:24 PM

John wrote:
> Hi,
> I would like to make a round waste basket that is 12" round at the
> top and 8" at the bottom. I will be using 2"x1/4" hardwood slats. Is
> there some simple formula that I can use to figure out how wide the
> bottom part of the slats will be tapered, the angle to cut the edge
> and how many slats will be needed?

If you approximate it as a circle, then

Circ = pi* Dia

Using 2" slats, this gives 12*pi/2=18.85 slats.

So plan on 19 slats.

You could use the circle approximation and be pretty close, but we may
as well get exact.

If you draw a triangle from the centre of a 19-sided polygon to the
centre of an edge and the outer point of an edge, the central angle will
be 360/(2*19) or 9.47 degrees. Remember this for later, as it's also
the bevel you'll need for the sides of the slats.

Trig says that

sin(theta) = opposite/hypotenuse

so

sin(theta) = s/2r

where

theta = central angle
s = length of the side
r = distance from outer vertex to centre

plugging in a slat width of 2", we get a max diameter of 12.15" which is
pretty close to what you asked for.

For the bottom, if we start with a desired max diameter of 8", this
gives a slat width of 1.317".

As mentioned above, you'll want to bevel the edges at 9.47 degrees from
vertical.

Chris

Jh

John

in reply to John on 29/11/2005 10:30 PM

30/11/2005 2:43 PM

Thank you Mike, the height would be 12".
Regards,
John

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:34:44 -0700, Richards <[email protected]>
wrote:

>John wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I would like to make a round waste basket that is 12" round at the
>> top and 8" at the bottom. I will be using 2"x1/4" hardwood slats. Is
>> there some simple formula that I can use to figure out how wide the
>> bottom part of the slats will be tapered, the angle to cut the edge
>> and how many slats will be needed?
>> Many Thanks,
>> John
>
>Hi John,
>Pi times 12 = 37.699. Pi times 8 = 25.133. Divide 37.699 by the actual
>width of the slats to find how many slats you'll need. The bottom of
>the slat will be 0.666 times the width of the top of the slat. Without
>knowing the height of the basket, I can't give you the angle.
>-Mike

Rm

Richards

in reply to John on 29/11/2005 10:30 PM

29/11/2005 10:34 PM

John wrote:
> Hi,
> I would like to make a round waste basket that is 12" round at the
> top and 8" at the bottom. I will be using 2"x1/4" hardwood slats. Is
> there some simple formula that I can use to figure out how wide the
> bottom part of the slats will be tapered, the angle to cut the edge
> and how many slats will be needed?
> Many Thanks,
> John

Hi John,
Pi times 12 = 37.699. Pi times 8 = 25.133. Divide 37.699 by the actual
width of the slats to find how many slats you'll need. The bottom of
the slat will be 0.666 times the width of the top of the slat. Without
knowing the height of the basket, I can't give you the angle.
-Mike

Jh

John

in reply to John on 29/11/2005 10:30 PM

30/11/2005 2:41 PM

Thank you, looks like I need to go back to school and learn math all
over again, LOL
Thanks Again,
John

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:24:06 -0600, Chris Friesen
<[email protected]> wrote:

>John wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I would like to make a round waste basket that is 12" round at the
>> top and 8" at the bottom. I will be using 2"x1/4" hardwood slats. Is
>> there some simple formula that I can use to figure out how wide the
>> bottom part of the slats will be tapered, the angle to cut the edge
>> and how many slats will be needed?
>
>If you approximate it as a circle, then
>
>Circ = pi* Dia
>
>Using 2" slats, this gives 12*pi/2=18.85 slats.
>
>So plan on 19 slats.
>
>You could use the circle approximation and be pretty close, but we may
>as well get exact.
>
>If you draw a triangle from the centre of a 19-sided polygon to the
>centre of an edge and the outer point of an edge, the central angle will
>be 360/(2*19) or 9.47 degrees. Remember this for later, as it's also
>the bevel you'll need for the sides of the slats.
>
>Trig says that
>
>sin(theta) = opposite/hypotenuse
>
>so
>
>sin(theta) = s/2r
>
>where
>
>theta = central angle
>s = length of the side
>r = distance from outer vertex to centre
>
>plugging in a slat width of 2", we get a max diameter of 12.15" which is
>pretty close to what you asked for.
>
>For the bottom, if we start with a desired max diameter of 8", this
>gives a slat width of 1.317".
>
>As mentioned above, you'll want to bevel the edges at 9.47 degrees from
>vertical.
>
>Chris


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