Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 5:53am [email protected] (Sam=A0the=A0Cat)
doth lament:
<rumor>
Local equipment rep is reporting the Amazon will stop selling equipment
needing to be shipped by common carrier on 1 Jan, reason given is too
much damage in shipping and loss of revenue. <snip>
No prob, it ain't so.
Real life answer - How the Hell would I know? If I wanted to know,
the first place I'd ask is Amazon.
JOAT
If it ain't broke, don't lend it.
- Red Green
"Sam the Cat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> <rumor>
>
> Local equipment rep is reporting the Amazon will stop selling equipment
> needing to be shipped by common carrier on 1 Jan, reason given is too much
> damage in shipping and loss of revenue.
>
> </rumour>
>
> Anybody hearing the same ?
>
Or higher fuel prices? I notice my new catalog has cut drastically into the
free categories. Makes their prices pretty much the same as everyone else.
>
Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:57:10 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, "Leon"
> <[email protected]> quickly quoth:
>
> >
> >"Sam the Cat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> <rumor>
> >>
> >> Local equipment rep is reporting the Amazon will stop selling equipment
> >> needing to be shipped by common carrier on 1 Jan, reason given is too much
> >> damage in shipping and loss of revenue.
> >
> >I suspect they will still ship by common carrier but the free shipping will
> >end. The carrier is responsible for the damage.
>
> If half my products ended up in claims, I'd lose money and need
> a lot more production time just to keep up.
If I were losing half my shipments to damage claims, I'd either fix my
packaging or find aonther carrier... :)
> ...If Amazon is, as I believe they are,
> experiencing a lot of loss, I'll bet they do discontinue sales of
> items large and bulky enough to require truck shipping. And I don't
> blame them at all. I've only lost 1 (uninsured) item so far this
> year and I'm not too happy about it, but I didn't lose too much
> money on the deal. It was one of my infamous t-shirts, so I'm sure
> the thief will advertise it for me. ;)
If they're experiencing a high rate of loss, something's wrong w/ what
they're doing/who they're using. Product is shipped all over the
country all the time w/o damage/complaint, so if a particular vendor is
having a problem, either they're not packaging adequately or the
carrier(s) they're using are incompetent. The former is easy to find
the culprit, the latter won't be in business long in the present
competitive environment.
I think the high cost of fuel is undoubtedly going to be the root cause
of any shift in plans, if there is one. Up to this point they've been
able to price things such that the cost of shipping was buried in the
pricing. W/ $3 diesel, there's simply no room to continue that
practice.
The other thing is they've had a "sweetheart" deal w/ UPS that UPS is
probably not able to continue to support owing to the same problem of
shrinking margins.
I can see dropping larger items than the UPS'es of the world will haul
in the present environment because I suspect as a fraction of their
total business they're a small portion and the markup isn't very high as
competition for such equipment is pretty keen. That some of their prime
competition comes from places like Grizzly who they can't resale anyway
doesn't help their volume no doubt.
"dgadams" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 05:53:32 -0500, Sam the Cat wrote:
>
>> <rumor>
>>
>> Local equipment rep is reporting the Amazon will stop selling equipment
>> needing to be shipped by common carrier on 1 Jan, reason given is too
>> much
>> damage in shipping and loss of revenue.
>>
>> </rumour>
>>
>> Anybody hearing the same ?
>
> I looked at a couple of Jet items I've either ordered
> or had my eye one. The shipping section says
> "Special Shipping Information: This item normally requires a shipping
> charge of $49.00, but is eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping today."
>
> This seems a move toward shipping charges on larger items. I don't recall
> words like this in the past. YMMV.
>
In the past it said "this item ships free." Or "free shipping on all orders
over $XXX."
When the wording tries to make you thing you're getting a better deal -
you're not. They're trying to make it sound like a cap.
My dad used to always ask for his "cap," when he purchased something. Said
when he was a kid, his dad would bargain with the clothier, then demand a
cap to seal the deal. Counted forty caps at dad's when we cleaned up his
workshop after he passed away. Everything from Ford to Meeks Lumber.
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:57:10 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, "Leon"
<[email protected]> quickly quoth:
>
>"Sam the Cat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> <rumor>
>>
>> Local equipment rep is reporting the Amazon will stop selling equipment
>> needing to be shipped by common carrier on 1 Jan, reason given is too much
>> damage in shipping and loss of revenue.
>
>I suspect they will still ship by common carrier but the free shipping will
>end. The carrier is responsible for the damage.
If half my products ended up in claims, I'd lose money and need
a lot more production time just to keep up. Losses are expensive
in more ways than one, Leon. If Amazon is, as I believe they are,
experiencing a lot of loss, I'll bet they do discontinue sales of
items large and bulky enough to require truck shipping. And I don't
blame them at all. I've only lost 1 (uninsured) item so far this
year and I'm not too happy about it, but I didn't lose too much
money on the deal. It was one of my infamous t-shirts, so I'm sure
the thief will advertise it for me. ;)
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"Sam the Cat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> <rumor>
>
> Local equipment rep is reporting the Amazon will stop selling equipment
> needing to be shipped by common carrier on 1 Jan, reason given is too much
> damage in shipping and loss of revenue.
I suspect they will still ship by common carrier but the free shipping will
end. The carrier is responsible for the damage.
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:14:12 -0500, "George" <George@least> wrote:
>
>"Sam the Cat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> <rumor>
>>
>> Local equipment rep is reporting the Amazon will stop selling equipment
>> needing to be shipped by common carrier on 1 Jan, reason given is too much
>> damage in shipping and loss of revenue.
>>
>> </rumour>
>>
>> Anybody hearing the same ?
>>
>
>Or higher fuel prices? I notice my new catalog has cut drastically into the
>free categories. Makes their prices pretty much the same as everyone else.
That may actually be a good thing. Raising their prices or becoming
more like everybody else before they have crushed the competition means
that the other on-line retailers like Woodworker's Supply will remain
viable sources of supply for those of us who don't want an on-line
equivalent of the Borg.
>>
>
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 05:53:32 -0500, Sam the Cat wrote:
> <rumor>
>
> Local equipment rep is reporting the Amazon will stop selling equipment
> needing to be shipped by common carrier on 1 Jan, reason given is too much
> damage in shipping and loss of revenue.
>
> </rumour>
>
> Anybody hearing the same ?
I looked at a couple of Jet items I've either ordered
or had my eye one. The shipping section says
"Special Shipping Information: This item normally requires a shipping
charge of $49.00, but is eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping today."
This seems a move toward shipping charges on larger items. I don't recall
words like this in the past. YMMV.
D.G. Adams