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nospambob

23/07/2005 11:29 AM

Ho, Swingman

You mentioned a "birds mouth" joint and I tried to post what shows
below but haven't seen it. Is there a compendium of joints anywhere?
Tage Frid index to book 1 doesn't list it. Does birds mouth joint
have another name, like bridle joint and slip joint?

Your suggestion brings forth the question "Is there a source for name
to visual aid for joints?". Haven't looked in Tage Frid Teaches
Woodworking yet but intend to (if I can remember).

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:25:41 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Don't discount the birds mouth joint for your planter.


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"bridger"

in reply to nospambob on 23/07/2005 11:29 AM

23/07/2005 3:00 PM



Dave in Fairfax wrote:
> Swingman wrote:
> > Semantics ... much like the term "dado", which has a completely different
> > meaning to a classical architect than it does to a woodworker.
> > Named primarily, and conveniently, because of the way the joint looks,
> > whether it be in frame construction, or planter boxes. A birds mouth router
> > bit cuts a bird's mouth shaped joint that is perfect for spars, barrel
> > shapes, and other multi-sided, hollow objects.
>
> I'm having a hard time vusualizing this, bear with me. It sounds like a
> half-dovetail, sort of. Is that the corner joinery on the planter?
>
> Dave in Fairfax

kind of. think if you set up a dado stack, tilted the arbor on your saw
and plowed a groove down the edge of a board that the edge of another
board just fit into. now the boards are joined in a trough. do a bunch
of them together and they wrap all the way around into a tube.

Di

Dave in Fairfax

in reply to nospambob on 23/07/2005 11:29 AM

23/07/2005 7:30 PM

Tom Watson wrote:
> A bird's mouth is the notch cut in a rafter to receive the top plate
> of the wall.

Yup, that's the only one I know of by that name. I'm not quite sure how
that works with a planter...

Dave in Fairfax
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Dave in Fairfax

in reply to nospambob on 23/07/2005 11:29 AM

23/07/2005 9:29 PM

Swingman wrote:
> Semantics ... much like the term "dado", which has a completely different
> meaning to a classical architect than it does to a woodworker.
> Named primarily, and conveniently, because of the way the joint looks,
> whether it be in frame construction, or planter boxes. A birds mouth router
> bit cuts a bird's mouth shaped joint that is perfect for spars, barrel
> shapes, and other multi-sided, hollow objects.

I'm having a hard time vusualizing this, bear with me. It sounds like a
half-dovetail, sort of. Is that the corner joinery on the planter?

Dave in Fairfax
--
reply-to doesn't work
use: daveldr at att dot net
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Capital Area Woodturners
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PATINA
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Di

Dave in Fairfax

in reply to nospambob on 23/07/2005 11:29 AM

24/07/2005 6:06 PM

nospambob wrote:
> Thanks Tom, picture is worth a ...!

Yup, makes much more sense now. I was thinking of a square planter.
Thanks.
Dave in Fairfax
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TW

Tom Watson

in reply to nospambob on 23/07/2005 11:29 AM

23/07/2005 2:36 PM

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 11:29:32 -0700, nospambob <[email protected]>
wrote:

>You mentioned a "birds mouth" joint and I tried to post what shows
>below but haven't seen it. Is there a compendium of joints anywhere?
>Tage Frid index to book 1 doesn't list it. Does birds mouth joint
>have another name, like bridle joint and slip joint?
>
>Your suggestion brings forth the question "Is there a source for name
>to visual aid for joints?". Haven't looked in Tage Frid Teaches
>Woodworking yet but intend to (if I can remember).
>
>On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:25:41 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Don't discount the birds mouth joint for your planter.

A bird's mouth is the notch cut in a rafter to receive the top plate
of the wall.

http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/rm_home_ext_roofs_gutters/article/0,1797,HGTV_3737_1398229,00.html

(see figure M)



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"Swingman"

in reply to nospambob on 23/07/2005 11:29 AM

23/07/2005 3:13 PM

"Dave in Fairfax" wrote in message
> Tom Watson wrote:
> > A bird's mouth is the notch cut in a rafter to receive the top plate
> > of the wall.
>
> Yup, that's the only one I know of by that name. I'm not quite sure how
> that works with a planter...

Semantics ... much like the term "dado", which has a completely different
meaning to a classical architect than it does to a woodworker.

Named primarily, and conveniently, because of the way the joint looks,
whether it be in frame construction, or planter boxes. A birds mouth router
bit cuts a bird's mouth shaped joint that is perfect for spars, barrel
shapes, and other multi-sided, hollow objects.

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"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to nospambob on 23/07/2005 11:29 AM

23/07/2005 6:34 PM


"nospambob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> You mentioned a "birds mouth" joint and I tried to post what shows
> below but haven't seen it. Is there a compendium of joints anywhere?
> Tage Frid index to book 1 doesn't list it. Does birds mouth joint
> have another name, like bridle joint and slip joint?
>
> Your suggestion brings forth the question "Is there a source for name
> to visual aid for joints?". Haven't looked in Tage Frid Teaches
> Woodworking yet but intend to (if I can remember).


Check the Lee Valley catalog. They sell a router bit just for that.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to nospambob on 23/07/2005 11:29 AM

23/07/2005 10:04 PM


"Dave in Fairfax" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> I'm having a hard time vusualizing this, bear with me. It sounds like a
> half-dovetail, sort of. Is that the corner joinery on the planter?
>
> Dave in Fairfax

Look here; http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=45160&cat=1,46168

Ww

WillR

in reply to nospambob on 23/07/2005 11:29 AM

23/07/2005 10:18 PM

nospambob wrote:
> You mentioned a "birds mouth" joint and I tried to post what shows
> below but haven't seen it. Is there a compendium of joints anywhere?
> Tage Frid index to book 1 doesn't list it. Does birds mouth joint
> have another name, like bridle joint and slip joint?
>=20
> Your suggestion brings forth the question "Is there a source for name
> to visual aid for joints?". Haven't looked in Tage Frid Teaches
> Woodworking yet but intend to (if I can remember).
>=20
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:25:41 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>>Don't discount the birds mouth joint for your planter.
>=20
>=20

Lee Valley router bit and example.

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=3D1&p=3D45160&cat=3D1,46168,461=
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who have not got it.=94 George Bernard Shaw

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nospambob

in reply to nospambob on 23/07/2005 11:29 AM

24/07/2005 8:44 AM

Thanks Tom, picture is worth a ...!

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:36:50 -0400, Tom Watson <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 11:29:32 -0700, nospambob <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>You mentioned a "birds mouth" joint and I tried to post what shows
>>below but haven't seen it. Is there a compendium of joints anywhere?
>>Tage Frid index to book 1 doesn't list it. Does birds mouth joint
>>have another name, like bridle joint and slip joint?
>>
>>Your suggestion brings forth the question "Is there a source for name
>>to visual aid for joints?". Haven't looked in Tage Frid Teaches
>>Woodworking yet but intend to (if I can remember).
>>
>>On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:25:41 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Don't discount the birds mouth joint for your planter.
>
>A bird's mouth is the notch cut in a rafter to receive the top plate
>of the wall.
>
>http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/rm_home_ext_roofs_gutters/article/0,1797,HGTV_3737_1398229,00.html
>
>(see figure M)
>
>
>
>Tom Watson - WoodDorker
>tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)
>http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/ (website)


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