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[email protected] (thrugoodmarshall)

24/07/2004 1:00 PM

White stain/paint over "tung oil"

Years ago, I bought some yellow pine furniture. This is the stuff
that was being sold in malls in the late '80's and early '90's.
Brands like "The Box Store" or "This End Up".

Anyhow, it's made of untreated yellow pine, and they sell you a can of
something they say is tung oil to rub on it. This is supposed to seal
the surface and protect the wood.

Well, I rubbed lots of this stuff on the furniture.

My wife does NOT like the appearance of this furniture!

She wants to stain it with a white wash stain, or barring that, just
paint it white.

Is there a way to strip that wood of its oil coat? Or must I just sand
off the top layer of wood to get rid of the oil?
Is it possible to stain a light (white) color over that oil treated
wood?
Is there a type of paint that will stick to that type of surface?

I'm thinking the practical thing to do would be to paint it all white,
but I'm not sure what type of paint is appropriate.

Thanks very much to anybody who cares to share their experience; I'm
very new at this.


This topic has 6 replies

Gg

"George"

in reply to [email protected] (thrugoodmarshall) on 24/07/2004 1:00 PM

24/07/2004 8:07 PM

Doubt that thinner will do much to cured tung oil. Skip it and chose
yourself some pigmented oil-based primer if you're going to paint it, though
it might respond well enough to an oil stain to satisfy SWMBO.

Surely there is an out-of-the-way spot where you can try it out both
options.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 24 Jul 2004 13:00:36 -0700, [email protected]
> (thrugoodmarshall) wrote:
>
> >Years ago, I bought some yellow pine furniture. This is the stuff
> >that was being sold in malls in the late '80's and early '90's.
> >Brands like "The Box Store" or "This End Up".
> >
> >Anyhow, it's made of untreated yellow pine, and they sell you a can of
> >something they say is tung oil to rub on it. This is supposed to seal
> >the surface and protect the wood.
> >
> >Well, I rubbed lots of this stuff on the furniture.
> >Is there a way to strip that wood of its oil coat? Or must I just sand
> >off the top layer of wood to get rid of the oil?
>
> a good scrub down with paint thinner and a few days to dry should take
> care of whatever uncured oils are on the surface.
>
>
>
>

Gg

"George"

in reply to [email protected] (thrugoodmarshall) on 24/07/2004 1:00 PM

26/07/2004 7:02 AM

How many kinds of finish (with different expansion rates) do you really want
on this puppy?

Oil already, follow with oil. Clean is a brush, solvent only if there's
free oil, otherwise expensive and unneeded.


"patriarch [email protected]>" <<patriarch> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 20:07:31 -0400, "George" <george@least> wrote:
> >
> >>Doubt that thinner will do much to cured tung oil.
> >
> > assuming the stuff supplied is in fact tung oil. it may turn out to be
> > mineral oil or some such.
> >
> >
> >> Skip it and chose
> >>yourself some pigmented oil-based primer if you're going to paint it,
> >>though it might respond well enough to an oil stain to satisfy SWMBO.
>
> Or Zinnser BIN Shellac-based primer. I would think the wash down would be
> primarily to get to an acceptably clean surface, more than to remove any
> oil. And the shellac would seal in anything that was put there from the
> original slatherings...

b

in reply to [email protected] (thrugoodmarshall) on 24/07/2004 1:00 PM

24/07/2004 1:51 PM

On 24 Jul 2004 13:00:36 -0700, [email protected]
(thrugoodmarshall) wrote:

>Years ago, I bought some yellow pine furniture. This is the stuff
>that was being sold in malls in the late '80's and early '90's.
>Brands like "The Box Store" or "This End Up".


ah yes. the unfinished furniture bit.



>
>Anyhow, it's made of untreated yellow pine, and they sell you a can of
>something they say is tung oil to rub on it. This is supposed to seal
>the surface and protect the wood.
>
>Well, I rubbed lots of this stuff on the furniture.
>
>My wife does NOT like the appearance of this furniture!


a point in her favor....



>
>She wants to stain it with a white wash stain, or barring that, just
>paint it white.
>
>Is there a way to strip that wood of its oil coat? Or must I just sand
>off the top layer of wood to get rid of the oil?

a good scrub down with paint thinner and a few days to dry should take
care of whatever uncured oils are on the surface.




>Is it possible to stain a light (white) color over that oil treated
>wood?

an oil based semi-transparent gel stain should do what you want.


>Is there a type of paint that will stick to that type of surface?

more to the point, there are several types of *primers* that will
stick once you clean it. then you can use pretty much any paint you
want.




>
>I'm thinking the practical thing to do would be to paint it all white,
>but I'm not sure what type of paint is appropriate.

for furniture you'll want a pretty hard, durable paint. home depot and
lowes aren't going to carry what you want. look in your yellow pages
for industrial paint suppliers near you. ask the sales people there
for the right thing.

there are oil/alkyd paints that will do what you want, as well as
epoxy/latex, acrylic enamel and polyurethane paints. heck, it's been a
couple of years since I looked into it. by now there may be several
new classes of coatings technologies I have never heard of...




>
>Thanks very much to anybody who cares to share their experience; I'm
>very new at this.


we're ALL very new at this. just some of have been new at this longer
than others....

pp

patriarch <[email protected]>

in reply to [email protected] (thrugoodmarshall) on 24/07/2004 1:00 PM

26/07/2004 12:23 AM

[email protected] wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 20:07:31 -0400, "George" <george@least> wrote:
>
>>Doubt that thinner will do much to cured tung oil.
>
> assuming the stuff supplied is in fact tung oil. it may turn out to be
> mineral oil or some such.
>
>
>> Skip it and chose
>>yourself some pigmented oil-based primer if you're going to paint it,
>>though it might respond well enough to an oil stain to satisfy SWMBO.

Or Zinnser BIN Shellac-based primer. I would think the wash down would be
primarily to get to an acceptably clean surface, more than to remove any
oil. And the shellac would seal in anything that was put there from the
original slatherings...

>>
>>Surely there is an out-of-the-way spot where you can try it out both
>>options.
>>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On 24 Jul 2004 13:00:36 -0700, [email protected]
>>> (thrugoodmarshall) wrote:
>>>
>>> >Years ago, I bought some yellow pine furniture. This is the stuff
>>> >that was being sold in malls in the late '80's and early '90's.
>>> >Brands like "The Box Store" or "This End Up".
>>> >
>>> >Anyhow, it's made of untreated yellow pine, and they sell you a can
>>> >of something they say is tung oil to rub on it. This is supposed
>>> >to seal the surface and protect the wood.
>>> >
>>> >Well, I rubbed lots of this stuff on the furniture.
>>> >Is there a way to strip that wood of its oil coat? Or must I just
>>> >sand off the top layer of wood to get rid of the oil?
>>>
>>> a good scrub down with paint thinner and a few days to dry should
>>> take care of whatever uncured oils are on the surface.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

b

in reply to [email protected] (thrugoodmarshall) on 24/07/2004 1:00 PM

24/07/2004 6:16 PM

On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 20:07:31 -0400, "George" <george@least> wrote:

>Doubt that thinner will do much to cured tung oil.

assuming the stuff supplied is in fact tung oil. it may turn out to be
mineral oil or some such.


> Skip it and chose
>yourself some pigmented oil-based primer if you're going to paint it, though
>it might respond well enough to an oil stain to satisfy SWMBO.
>
>Surely there is an out-of-the-way spot where you can try it out both
>options.
>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On 24 Jul 2004 13:00:36 -0700, [email protected]
>> (thrugoodmarshall) wrote:
>>
>> >Years ago, I bought some yellow pine furniture. This is the stuff
>> >that was being sold in malls in the late '80's and early '90's.
>> >Brands like "The Box Store" or "This End Up".
>> >
>> >Anyhow, it's made of untreated yellow pine, and they sell you a can of
>> >something they say is tung oil to rub on it. This is supposed to seal
>> >the surface and protect the wood.
>> >
>> >Well, I rubbed lots of this stuff on the furniture.
>> >Is there a way to strip that wood of its oil coat? Or must I just sand
>> >off the top layer of wood to get rid of the oil?
>>
>> a good scrub down with paint thinner and a few days to dry should take
>> care of whatever uncured oils are on the surface.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

PA

"Preston Andreas"

in reply to [email protected] (thrugoodmarshall) on 24/07/2004 1:00 PM

25/07/2004 10:41 PM

If you have enough tung oil on the furniture that has cured, it may have
sealed the wood enough that stain won't take. Try some on a concealed area.
If the stain doesn't absorb, you either have to sand away the surface, spray
a toner with the color you want or paint it.

Preston
"thrugoodmarshall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Years ago, I bought some yellow pine furniture. This is the stuff
> that was being sold in malls in the late '80's and early '90's.
> Brands like "The Box Store" or "This End Up".
>
> Anyhow, it's made of untreated yellow pine, and they sell you a can of
> something they say is tung oil to rub on it. This is supposed to seal
> the surface and protect the wood.
>
> Well, I rubbed lots of this stuff on the furniture.
>
> My wife does NOT like the appearance of this furniture!
>
> She wants to stain it with a white wash stain, or barring that, just
> paint it white.
>
> Is there a way to strip that wood of its oil coat? Or must I just sand
> off the top layer of wood to get rid of the oil?
> Is it possible to stain a light (white) color over that oil treated
> wood?
> Is there a type of paint that will stick to that type of surface?
>
> I'm thinking the practical thing to do would be to paint it all white,
> but I'm not sure what type of paint is appropriate.
>
> Thanks very much to anybody who cares to share their experience; I'm
> very new at this.


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