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[email protected] (Ed Lowenstein)

06/10/2003 1:28 PM

sharpening on belt sander

Does anybody have experience sharpening (knives, plane irons) on a
stationary belt sander? I just found a source for 300 and 800 grit
belts and I thought it might work well though I understand I'll need
to try to estimate the blade angle and hold it by hand. Thanks much.
---> Ed


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Steve Knight

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Lowenstein) on 06/10/2003 1:28 PM

07/10/2003 3:44 AM

On 6 Oct 2003 13:28:20 -0700, [email protected] (Ed Lowenstein) wrote:

>Does anybody have experience sharpening (knives, plane irons) on a
>stationary belt sander? I just found a source for 300 and 800 grit
>belts and I thought it might work well though I understand I'll need
>to try to estimate the blade angle and hold it by hand. Thanks much.

you can use it to grind but belt sanders are just not accurate enough for the
final grits. You have to have a platten that is flat and accurate under the
belt. that helps a lot. but you can't really freehand them on a belt sander. I
can freehand grind on my makita and sharpen freehand. but when I need to grind a
regular plane iron I use a tool rest.

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in reply to [email protected] (Ed Lowenstein) on 06/10/2003 1:28 PM

06/10/2003 6:01 PM

Mon, Oct 6, 2003, 1:28pm (EDT-3) [email protected] (Ed=A0Lowenstein)
asks:
Does anybody have experience sharpening (knives, plane irons) on a
stationary belt sander? <snip>

Lathe tools.

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in reply to [email protected] (Ed Lowenstein) on 06/10/2003 1:28 PM

06/10/2003 6:59 PM

Ed Lowenstein wrote:
>
> Does anybody have experience sharpening (knives, plane irons) on a
> stationary belt sander? I just found a source for 300 and 800 grit
> belts and I thought it might work well though I understand I'll need
> to try to estimate the blade angle and hold it by hand. Thanks much.
> ---> Ed

Preferred by cutlers.

Ml

"MSH"

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Lowenstein) on 06/10/2003 1:28 PM

06/10/2003 1:43 PM

I use a floor edger for my rough chisels. I use 100 grit. Eyeball the angle,
a little on the backside too. I don't think 800 grit is going to last long
against metal.

M Hamlin
"Ed Lowenstein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does anybody have experience sharpening (knives, plane irons) on a
> stationary belt sander? I just found a source for 300 and 800 grit
> belts and I thought it might work well though I understand I'll need
> to try to estimate the blade angle and hold it by hand. Thanks much.
> ---> Ed

Ba

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Lowenstein) on 06/10/2003 1:28 PM

07/10/2003 3:03 AM

On 6 Oct 2003 13:28:20 -0700, [email protected] (Ed Lowenstein)
wrote:

>Does anybody have experience sharpening (knives, plane irons) on a
>stationary belt sander? I just found a source for 300 and 800 grit
>belts and I thought it might work well though I understand I'll need
>to try to estimate the blade angle and hold it by hand. Thanks much.
>---> Ed


It's not pretty, but it'll work in a pinch.

Keep the sparks out of the dust bag / collector.

Barry

KS

"Kelly Shamash"

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Lowenstein) on 06/10/2003 1:28 PM

06/10/2003 9:08 PM

I am assuming it is a regular 1x30 or 1x42 sander, Lee Valley Tools
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?SID=&ccurrency=2&page=48040&category=1,43072
sells 15 micron grit belts, supposedly equivalent to 1000x Japanese
waterstone.
I've tried it, gives reasonably sharp edge on my chisels.

"Ed Lowenstein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does anybody have experience sharpening (knives, plane irons) on a
> stationary belt sander? I just found a source for 300 and 800 grit
> belts and I thought it might work well though I understand I'll need
> to try to estimate the blade angle and hold it by hand. Thanks much.
> ---> Ed

JM

John McCoy

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Lowenstein) on 06/10/2003 1:28 PM

06/10/2003 9:04 PM

[email protected] (Ed Lowenstein) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Does anybody have experience sharpening (knives, plane irons) on a
> stationary belt sander?

I tried it a couple of times, with poor results. I think the
problem is that the belt isn't a rigid surface, but instead
can flex a bit just past the edge of the (chisel, in my case)
being sharpened. This lead to more work than I expected on
the stones. YMMV.

John

PA

"Preston Andreas"

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Lowenstein) on 06/10/2003 1:28 PM

07/10/2003 12:38 AM

They also have a leather belt and green honing compound ( 0.5µ ). I
regularly use the 15µ belt and leather belt for sharpening and honing
knives. You can set a steady rest at 25° or whatever angle and do a good
job if you have a steady hand.

Preston
"Kelly Shamash" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:TQkgb.31990$9l5.16208@pd7tw2no...
> I am assuming it is a regular 1x30 or 1x42 sander, Lee Valley Tools
>
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?SID=&ccurrency=2&page=48040&category=1,43072
> sells 15 micron grit belts, supposedly equivalent to 1000x Japanese
> waterstone.
> I've tried it, gives reasonably sharp edge on my chisels.
>
>

DS

David Shapiro

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Lowenstein) on 06/10/2003 1:28 PM

06/10/2003 9:00 PM

Haven't tried it myself, but look at FWW October 2003, page 15-16. This
technique was described in Methods of Work, with a drawing of a jig to
make it easier.

David

Ed Lowenstein wrote:
> Does anybody have experience sharpening (knives, plane irons) on a
> stationary belt sander? I just found a source for 300 and 800 grit
> belts and I thought it might work well though I understand I'll need
> to try to estimate the blade angle and hold it by hand. Thanks much.
> ---> Ed

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Lowenstein) on 06/10/2003 1:28 PM

06/10/2003 8:41 PM


"Ed Lowenstein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does anybody have experience sharpening (knives, plane irons) on a
> stationary belt sander? I just found a source for 300 and 800 grit
> belts and I thought it might work well though I understand I'll need
> to try to estimate the blade angle and hold it by hand. Thanks much.
> ---> Ed

Works for my lawnmower blade.

For a precision tool, it can probably be made to work, but easy for an"oops"
also.
Ed


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