RH

"Rob H."

30/07/2009 4:09 AM

What is it? Set 295

Just posted a new set:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/



Rob


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whit3rd

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 11:12 AM


1685: watchman's key station; a watchman would have to
walk his rounds and key-in at successive stations on a 'watch clock'
that registered his evening's activity. Each station housed
a different key.

NW

Nick Wedd

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

31/07/2009 6:41 PM

In message <[email protected]>, J. Clarke
<[email protected]> writes
>Morris Dovey wrote:
>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>
>>> Quintus Curtus, writing around the time of Caesar, uses the term:
>>> "Nondum ad iactum teli pervenerant, cum Bion quidam transfuga,
>>> quanto maximo cursu potuerat, ad regem pervenit nuntians, murices
>>> ferreos in terram defodisse Dareum, qua hostem equites emissurum
>>> esse credebat, notatumque certo signo locum, ut fraus evitari a suis
>>> posset" in discussion of the campaigns of Alexander, several hundred
>>> years before.
>>
>> C'mon, John, we don't /all/ speak/read Latin. Translation, please...
>
>I don't speak or read it either--but about halfway through you see "murices
>ferreos", which would be the plural.

A murex is a very spiny sea snail, also know for producing a purple dye,
with which rich Romans dyed their togas, and orthodox Jews still dye
their tassels. So a "murex ferreus" would be an "iron sea-snail".

Nick
--
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MD

Marc Dashevsky

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 9:25 AM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Just posted a new set:
> >
> > http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> 1682 - looks like the thing that holds hooks on per boards.

Lobby meant peg boards, and he is right.

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[email protected] (Matthew Russotto)

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 2:19 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just posted a new set:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/

1681: Match holder for pocket-rocket

1682: Holds a shaft onto a rectangular thing Looks more like a part
than a tool in itself.

1683: Seismometer?

1684: Ceiling pitch checker

1685: Mailbox for unpopular people

1686: brake
--
It's times like these which make me glad my bank is Dial-a-Mattress

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 6:28 AM

"Rob H." <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:

> Just posted a new set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob

1681 is a Radio Shack soldering iron rest, to go with their Cheapest-
of-the-cheap Chinese irons.

1683 is definitely an inertial platform; with 2-axes, it's most likely
a ball horizon sender. (by 1968, that whole unit would fit over the
span of a large hand, and totally enclosed -- I had one with a sticky
bearing that would creep too much to be certified)

LLoyd

SR

"Steve R."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 11:01 PM


"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> J. Clarke wrote:
>> Stealth Pilot wrote:
> ...
>>> original would have been dropped behind the lines in WW2, in the
>>> thousands along roads, to spike the tyres of enemy vehicles.
> ...
>> "Caltrop". The basic design dates back to the Romans or earlier.
>> There's a photo of that very item on the wikipedia page for "caltrop"--a
>> fine point of the design is that the hollow tubes make them effective
>> against self-sealing tires.
>
> Dang!!! In reading Caesar I didn't learn the Romans ever faced Gauls w/
> vehicles that had inflated tires!!!
>
> --
>
>

I believe the Romans used "Stimuli" around their forts to cripple attackers.
Caltrops were used in the middle ages to cripple horses.


Steve R.

SR

"Steve R."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 11:03 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just posted a new set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob


1683 The electrical bits are a dead giveaway. It's probably an early
autopilot.


Steve R.

AD

Andy Dingley

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 3:24 AM

On 30 July, 09:09, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just posted a new set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

1684

Calthrops, a spiky device that has been used against infantry and
horses since Roman times. This one's for use against pneumatic tyres -
It's not just a spike, the tubes will also let the air out, even from
most self-sealing runflat tyres.

Nn

Northe

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 7:00 AM

1685: Possibly an outdoor telephone box?

Northe

Ll

"LD"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 9:23 PM

"Marc Dashevsky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > Just posted a new set:
>> >
>> > http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> 1682 - looks like the thing that holds hooks on per boards.
>
> Lobby meant peg boards, and he is right.


I knew that! :)

AE

Andrew Erickson

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 2:05 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Just posted a new set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Let's see here...I'm pretty sure of two this week, which is unusually
high for me.

1681 - Cheap soldering iron stand (or possibly a woodburning pencil
stand/rest, since the cheap ones are nearly the same appliance as cheap
soldering irons). Probably came in the package flat, and the owner had
to assemble by pushing the cutout bit upwards.

1682 - This appears to be a little yoke that snaps or slips onto
something else, presumably so it can be better hoisted or tied down. It
looks as though possibly tension on the small loop in the middle would
tend to cause the barbs to engage and hold tightly, while releasing the
tension would permit them to release. Without knowing the material it's
made of (and how springy it is), it's hard to say for certain.

1683 - Looks to be a mounted gyroscope, probably part of a guidance
system for an airplane or ship.

1684 - Tire puncturing doohicky used by law enforcement types to (try
to) force a fleeing vehicle to come to a stop. The four equidistant
points ensure that one is always going to be pointed up, regardless of
how it falls, and the two hollow tubes provide a quick path for the air
in the tire to escape.

1685 - Possibly this held a weatherglass for safekeeping? Purely a
guess.

1686 - A tool for either crimping, bending, or cutting/notching sheet
metal. Possibly used for flashing or roof drip edge or similar
construction needs.

Now to read some other guesses.

--
Andrew Erickson

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
lose." -- Jim Elliot

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 6:29 AM

Stealth Pilot wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:09:15 -0400, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Just posted a new set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> 1683: I've never seen one of these in the flesh but I would hazard a
> guess at an early sperry gyrocompass sender unit or an artificial
> horizon sender unit. it seems to have a number of compensating gizmos
> around it and the woodwork looks decidedly aircraft. this would be the
> sender back in the fuselage that drives the pilot's instrument.
>
> 1684: looks like something made quite recently but I'm guessing the
> original would have been dropped behind the lines in WW2, in the
> thousands along roads, to spike the tyres of enemy vehicles.
> I dont know what they were called but dropped on to the ground one
> spike always pointed up.

"Caltrop". The basic design dates back to the Romans or earlier. There's a
photo of that very item on the wikipedia page for "caltrop"--a fine point of
the design is that the hollow tubes make them effective against self-sealing
tires.

gg

"grrly girl"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 7:46 AM

1685 - could it be a Tabernacle?
The notch in side would stabalize the wine bottle.

"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just posted a new set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 10:10 AM

Rob H. wrote:
> Just posted a new set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob

1681 - Soldering iron stand. Usually included with the low end irons.

1682 - Looks like retainer clip. Probably used to hold a wire in place
to prevent damage.

1683 - Look like gyroscope units used to control something else.

1684 - NASTY Caltrop. That one looks like it was intended for traffic
control to punch a hole in a tire. Smaller ones are used for
anti-personnel use.

1685 - Key box from the looks of it.

1686 - Some type of shear?

--
Steve W.

dn

dpb

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 1:22 PM

J. Clarke wrote:
> Stealth Pilot wrote:
...
>> original would have been dropped behind the lines in WW2, in the
>> thousands along roads, to spike the tyres of enemy vehicles.
...
> "Caltrop". The basic design dates back to the Romans or earlier. There's a
> photo of that very item on the wikipedia page for "caltrop"--a fine point of
> the design is that the hollow tubes make them effective against self-sealing
> tires.

Dang!!! In reading Caesar I didn't learn the Romans ever faced Gauls w/
vehicles that had inflated tires!!!

--

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 5:10 PM

dpb wrote:
> J. Clarke wrote:
>> Stealth Pilot wrote:
> ...
>>> original would have been dropped behind the lines in WW2, in the
>>> thousands along roads, to spike the tyres of enemy vehicles.
> ...
>> "Caltrop". The basic design dates back to the Romans or earlier.
>> There's a photo of that very item on the wikipedia page for
>> "caltrop"--a fine point of the design is that the hollow tubes make
>> them effective against self-sealing tires.
>
> Dang!!! In reading Caesar I didn't learn the Romans ever faced Gauls
> w/ vehicles that had inflated tires!!!

No, of the design of that particular caltrop.

dn

dpb

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 5:42 PM

J. Clarke wrote:
> dpb wrote:
>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>> Stealth Pilot wrote:
>> ...
>>>> original would have been dropped behind the lines in WW2, in the
>>>> thousands along roads, to spike the tyres of enemy vehicles.
>> ...
>>> "Caltrop". The basic design dates back to the Romans or earlier.
>>> There's a photo of that very item on the wikipedia page for
>>> "caltrop"--a fine point of the design is that the hollow tubes make
>>> them effective against self-sealing tires.
>> Dang!!! In reading Caesar I didn't learn the Romans ever faced Gauls
>> w/ vehicles that had inflated tires!!!
>
> No, of the design of that particular caltrop.

Man, I figured folks could see a joke w/o it being pointed out to
them...oh, I forget, it's usenet; how silly of me.

--

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 7:00 PM


>>http://55tools.blogspot.com/

> 1683: I've never seen one of these in the flesh but I would hazard a
> guess at an early sperry gyrocompass sender unit or an artificial
> horizon sender unit. it seems to have a number of compensating gizmos
> around it and the woodwork looks decidedly aircraft. this would be the
> sender back in the fuselage that drives the pilot's instrument.



Great guess, they are gyroscopic controls for an airplane.


Rob

ic

=?iso-8859-1?Q?Christian_St=FCben?=

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

31/07/2009 9:22 AM

1686 i have seen similar tools for cutting metal window blinds to fit
perfectly into the window

greetings from germany
Chris

dn

dpb

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

31/07/2009 8:25 AM

Steve R. wrote:
> "dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>> Stealth Pilot wrote:
>> ...
>>>> original would have been dropped behind the lines in WW2, in the
>>>> thousands along roads, to spike the tyres of enemy vehicles.
>> ...
>>> "Caltrop". The basic design dates back to the Romans or earlier.
>>> There's a photo of that very item on the wikipedia page for "caltrop"--a
>>> fine point of the design is that the hollow tubes make them effective
>>> against self-sealing tires.
>> Dang!!! In reading Caesar I didn't learn the Romans ever faced Gauls w/
>> vehicles that had inflated tires!!!
...
> I believe the Romans used "Stimuli" around their forts to cripple attackers.
> Caltrops were used in the middle ages to cripple horses.
...
Yeah, I was joking entirely on the implication of pneumatic tires at the
time...

I'm pretty sure "caltrop" isn't in Caesar at all; origination appears to
be roughly 1000 AD according to OED (from similarity to plant w/ a
thorny head/sticker somewhat like what we call a "goathead")...

--

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

31/07/2009 11:08 AM

dpb wrote:
> Steve R. wrote:
>> "dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>>> Stealth Pilot wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>> original would have been dropped behind the lines in WW2, in the
>>>>> thousands along roads, to spike the tyres of enemy vehicles.
>>> ...
>>>> "Caltrop". The basic design dates back to the Romans or earlier.
>>>> There's a photo of that very item on the wikipedia page for
>>>> "caltrop"--a fine point of the design is that the hollow tubes
>>>> make them effective against self-sealing tires.
>>> Dang!!! In reading Caesar I didn't learn the Romans ever faced
>>> Gauls w/ vehicles that had inflated tires!!!
> ...
>> I believe the Romans used "Stimuli" around their forts to cripple
>> attackers. Caltrops were used in the middle ages to cripple horses.
> ...
> Yeah, I was joking entirely on the implication of pneumatic tires at
> the time...
>
> I'm pretty sure "caltrop" isn't in Caesar at all; origination appears
> to be roughly 1000 AD according to OED (from similarity to plant w/ a
> thorny head/sticker somewhat like what we call a "goathead")...

The word isn't, but the object apparently is, only in latin it's supposed to
be "murex ferreus"--the entry in vicipedia for that term (not that vicipedia
is necessarily correct) contains a photo of the very same object we are
discussing or one very, very much like it. This usage is also supported by
"A Dictionary of Roman and Greek Antiquities" by Anthony Rich, published in
1881.

Quintus Curtus, writing around the time of Caesar, uses the term: "Nondum
ad iactum teli pervenerant, cum Bion quidam transfuga, quanto maximo cursu
potuerat, ad regem pervenit nuntians, murices ferreos in terram defodisse
Dareum, qua hostem equites emissurum esse credebat, notatumque certo signo
locum, ut fraus evitari a suis posset" in discussion of the campaigns of
Alexander, several hundred years before. Whether his description of the
Alexandrian use is correct or not, clearly he was familiar with the term,
and if he knew a military term, it is difficult to imagine Caesar not
knowing it.

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

31/07/2009 10:37 AM

J. Clarke wrote:

> Quintus Curtus, writing around the time of Caesar, uses the term: "Nondum
> ad iactum teli pervenerant, cum Bion quidam transfuga, quanto maximo cursu
> potuerat, ad regem pervenit nuntians, murices ferreos in terram defodisse
> Dareum, qua hostem equites emissurum esse credebat, notatumque certo signo
> locum, ut fraus evitari a suis posset" in discussion of the campaigns of
> Alexander, several hundred years before.

C'mon, John, we don't /all/ speak/read Latin. Translation, please...

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

31/07/2009 11:37 AM

Richard Heathfield wrote:
> Morris Dovey said:
>
>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>
>>> Quintus Curtus, writing around the time of Caesar, uses the term:
>>> "Nondum ad iactum teli pervenerant, cum Bion quidam transfuga,
>>> quanto maximo cursu potuerat, ad regem pervenit nuntians, murices
>>> ferreos in terram defodisse Dareum, qua hostem equites emissurum
>>> esse credebat, notatumque certo signo locum, ut fraus evitari a
>>> suis posset" in discussion of the campaigns of Alexander, several
>>> hundred years before.
>> C'mon, John, we don't /all/ speak/read Latin. Translation, please...
>
> Allow me. I did Latin O-level.
>
> "None to throwing telly came through, with Bion who fled across, as
> much as possible running he could, to the king came through
> announcing, Maurice's ferrets in the earth - um... thing... of
> Dareus, whose cavalry was sent out to be believed, and to note for
> sure the sign of the path, that the German girls ran out at his very
> own, he could."
>
> (I scraped a C. And I must admit I was joking about Maurice's ferrets.
> In reality "ferreos" is probably "railway" or something like that.)

Methinks your C is much more reliable than your Latin. :)

ROFL (Si, I have no ferrets today...)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

31/07/2009 1:10 PM

Morris Dovey wrote:
> J. Clarke wrote:
>
>> Quintus Curtus, writing around the time of Caesar, uses the term:
>> "Nondum ad iactum teli pervenerant, cum Bion quidam transfuga,
>> quanto maximo cursu potuerat, ad regem pervenit nuntians, murices
>> ferreos in terram defodisse Dareum, qua hostem equites emissurum
>> esse credebat, notatumque certo signo locum, ut fraus evitari a suis
>> posset" in discussion of the campaigns of Alexander, several hundred
>> years before.
>
> C'mon, John, we don't /all/ speak/read Latin. Translation, please...

I don't speak or read it either--but about halfway through you see "murices
ferreos", which would be the plural.

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

31/07/2009 2:20 PM

Nick Wedd wrote:
> In message <[email protected]>, J. Clarke
> <[email protected]> writes
>> Morris Dovey wrote:
>>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>>
>>>> Quintus Curtus, writing around the time of Caesar, uses the term:
>>>> "Nondum ad iactum teli pervenerant, cum Bion quidam transfuga,
>>>> quanto maximo cursu potuerat, ad regem pervenit nuntians, murices
>>>> ferreos in terram defodisse Dareum, qua hostem equites emissurum
>>>> esse credebat, notatumque certo signo locum, ut fraus evitari a
>>>> suis posset" in discussion of the campaigns of Alexander, several
>>>> hundred years before.
>>>
>>> C'mon, John, we don't /all/ speak/read Latin. Translation, please...
>>
>> I don't speak or read it either--but about halfway through you see
>> "murices ferreos", which would be the plural.
>
> A murex is a very spiny sea snail, also know for producing a purple
> dye, with which rich Romans dyed their togas, and orthodox Jews still
> dye their tassels. So a "murex ferreus" would be an "iron sea-snail".

Be careful with your assumptions--the use of a word in modern biology does
not necessarily reflect its use in classical Latin. In this particular case
Aristotle did call certain sea snails "murex" but it was apparently also
used to refer to a "sharp stone" or "projecting rock", and murex shells do
often have various points sticking out, some of them quite long, so one can
easily imagine them being referred to by the same name as sharp stones or
that a caltrop be named after them.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

31/07/2009 5:27 PM


"whit3rd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:3a42bf67-476e-42f7-a2e6-7f9aee29630f@o15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> 1685: watchman's key station; a watchman would have to
> walk his rounds and key-in at successive stations on a 'watch clock'
> that registered his evening's activity. Each station housed
> a different key.


I think this might be correct but the box seems too big to hold just a key,
I've seen the watchman's clocks that were carried around, I wonder if some
manufacturers made clocks that were kept in the box.

The rest of them have been answered correctly this week:

http://answers295k.blogspot.com/


Rob

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

31/07/2009 5:52 PM

Rob H. wrote:
>
> "whit3rd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:3a42bf67-476e-42f7-a2e6-7f9aee29630f@o15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> 1685: watchman's key station; a watchman would have to
>> walk his rounds and key-in at successive stations on a 'watch clock'
>> that registered his evening's activity. Each station housed
>> a different key.
>
>
> I think this might be correct but the box seems too big to hold just a
> key, I've seen the watchman's clocks that were carried around, I wonder
> if some manufacturers made clocks that were kept in the box.
>
> The rest of them have been answered correctly this week:
>
> http://answers295k.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

Yes they did. I wonder though if that box isn't the shell of a call box,
such as the police/fire used. Some of those did not take a key to open
the box. However the proper key allowed the officer to use the box to
notify the dispatch center or the department of what they have found or
what they needed at the scene. The top section held a small guide of
what each code meant so they didn't need to memorize all the different
codes.

--
Steve W.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

31/07/2009 9:07 PM


> Yes they did. I wonder though if that box isn't the shell of a call box,
> such as the police/fire used. Some of those did not take a key to open
> the box. However the proper key allowed the officer to use the box to
> notify the dispatch center or the department of what they have found or
> what they needed at the scene. The top section held a small guide of
> what each code meant so they didn't need to memorize all the different
> codes.
>
> --
> Steve W.


Sounds like another good guess, I'm thinking someone will come through with
some evidence for the answer in the near future.

Rob

SP

Stealth Pilot

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 9:09 AM

On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:09:15 -0400, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:

>Just posted a new set:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>Rob

1683: I've never seen one of these in the flesh but I would hazard a
guess at an early sperry gyrocompass sender unit or an artificial
horizon sender unit. it seems to have a number of compensating gizmos
around it and the woodwork looks decidedly aircraft. this would be the
sender back in the fuselage that drives the pilot's instrument.

1684: looks like something made quite recently but I'm guessing the
original would have been dropped behind the lines in WW2, in the
thousands along roads, to spike the tyres of enemy vehicles.
I dont know what they were called but dropped on to the ground one
spike always pointed up.

JH

John Husvar

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 6:22 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Rich Grise <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:22:10 -0500, dpb wrote:
> > J. Clarke wrote:
> >> Stealth Pilot wrote:
> > ...
> >>> original would have been dropped behind the lines in WW2, in the
> >>> thousands along roads, to spike the tyres of enemy vehicles.
> > ...
> >> "Caltrop". The basic design dates back to the Romans or earlier. There's
> >> a
> >> photo of that very item on the wikipedia page for "caltrop"--a fine point
> >> of
> >> the design is that the hollow tubes make them effective against
> >> self-sealing
> >> tires.
> >
> > Dang!!! In reading Caesar I didn't learn the Romans ever faced Gauls w/
> > vehicles that had inflated tires!!!
>
> They'll also spike horse feet, or a sandal. >:->

Those were made of solid metal since nobody cared whether air came out
of feet or hooves. :)

There's a fellow at the SCA Pennsic War who does an iron smelt every
year and forges something out of the produce. One year it was caltrops
with three-inch spikes. OUCH!

RG

Rich Grise

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 9:02 PM

On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:22:10 -0500, dpb wrote:
> J. Clarke wrote:
>> Stealth Pilot wrote:
> ...
>>> original would have been dropped behind the lines in WW2, in the
>>> thousands along roads, to spike the tyres of enemy vehicles.
> ...
>> "Caltrop". The basic design dates back to the Romans or earlier. There's a
>> photo of that very item on the wikipedia page for "caltrop"--a fine point of
>> the design is that the hollow tubes make them effective against self-sealing
>> tires.
>
> Dang!!! In reading Caesar I didn't learn the Romans ever faced Gauls w/
> vehicles that had inflated tires!!!

They'll also spike horse feet, or a sandal. >:->

Cheers!
Rich

RH

Richard Heathfield

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

31/07/2009 3:56 PM

Morris Dovey said:

> J. Clarke wrote:
>
>> Quintus Curtus, writing around the time of Caesar, uses the term:
>> "Nondum ad iactum teli pervenerant, cum Bion quidam transfuga,
>> quanto maximo cursu potuerat, ad regem pervenit nuntians, murices
>> ferreos in terram defodisse Dareum, qua hostem equites emissurum
>> esse credebat, notatumque certo signo locum, ut fraus evitari a
>> suis posset" in discussion of the campaigns of Alexander, several
>> hundred years before.
>
> C'mon, John, we don't /all/ speak/read Latin. Translation, please...

Allow me. I did Latin O-level.

"None to throwing telly came through, with Bion who fled across, as
much as possible running he could, to the king came through
announcing, Maurice's ferrets in the earth - um... thing... of
Dareus, whose cavalry was sent out to be believed, and to note for
sure the sign of the path, that the German girls ran out at his very
own, he could."

(I scraped a C. And I must admit I was joking about Maurice's ferrets.
In reality "ferreos" is probably "railway" or something like that.)

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"LD"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 9:51 AM

"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just posted a new set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob


1682 - looks like the thing that holds hooks on per boards.

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

30/07/2009 9:53 PM

On 2009-07-30, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just posted a new set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

1681) looks like the fold-out leg for advertising give-away desk
calendars, or perhaps plastic picture frames.

1682) A clip for routing ribbon cables and round cables in a computer
case or somewhere similar.

1683) An early example (perhaps even a prototype) of an aircraft
inertial guidance system (gyrocompass, artificial horizon, and
(apparently) a barometric altimeter (the stack of disks to the
left))

The gyros (in side the housings in gimbals) are apparently
powered by three phase electricity -- maybe the 400 Hz common in
later aircraft, or perhaps even 60 Hz.

1684) A welded-up caltrop(s). The original ones were scattered to
interfere with horse-bourne military.

However, since this one is fabricated of hollow tubing, I think
that it is one intended for use by police to let the air out of
automobile tires. It punches through, and provides a very fast
exit pass for the air.

1685) This looks like a night watchman's station. It is bolted to
a wall, and contains a special key which records the particular
station number onto a paper tape driven by a clock which the
night watchman carries around -- thus proving that he was where
he was supposed to be when he was supposed to be there.

The key is attached to a chain which terminates in the upper
compartment with one of the bolts which secure the station to
the wall. It then runs down through the notch cut in the floor
of that partition and into the bottom box where the key lives.
The chain allows enough free travel to easily fit into the
keyhole on the clock, but keeps it there to keep the watchman
from carrying all the keys to one place as the start of his
shift, and simply marking the clock at the right times without
being anywhere near the places he is supposed to be for most of
the night.

1686) A hand-operated shear for cutting something at right angles
to the long edge (which fits in the tray to the side of the
jaws. It could be for ribbon cable, or parts of terminal strip
kits, or any of a number of other things.

Now to see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/07/2009 4:09 AM

01/08/2009 1:55 AM

On 2009-07-31, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "whit3rd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:3a42bf67-476e-42f7-a2e6-7f9aee29630f@o15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> 1685: watchman's key station; a watchman would have to
>> walk his rounds and key-in at successive stations on a 'watch clock'
>> that registered his evening's activity. Each station housed
>> a different key.
>
>
> I think this might be correct but the box seems too big to hold just a key,
> I've seen the watchman's clocks that were carried around, I wonder if some
> manufacturers made clocks that were kept in the box.

Consider the length of chain to allow the key to reach the clock
on different height watchmen -- and perhaps in awkward places where it
is difficult to get close to the box.

So the box contains the key, and a length of chain which is
secured by the top screw of the three which secure the box to the wall.
The chain runs down through the notch in the floor of the upper
compartment, and is bundled in the bottom compartment with the key
itself.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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