I'm looking for some unusual hinge hardware. Perhaps someone can help me
find something that would fit my needs. The project is an entertainment
center with four "drawers" in the lower section. Two of these drawers will
actually be drawers and the other two will be electronics component bays.
The bays should, however, appear to be drawers when in the closed position
(ideally, no hinge pins etc. showing in the closed position)
The inset faux drawer front should flip forward (pivoting along its front
bottom edge). A quadrant hinge is very close to what I need. Unfortunately,
since the drawer is fully inset, the motion of the "drawer front" will have
to be outward and then down. The hinge motion should be stopped at around
90 degrees of motion.
Any points would be a great help.
The folks at Lee Valley suggested this. It will work, but I'd rather not
have the 170 degree opening.
http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=1&cat=3,41241,40980&p=40980.
Thanks,
Steve
"Stephen M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> The inset faux drawer front should flip forward (pivoting along its front
> bottom edge). A quadrant hinge is very close to what I need.
Unfortunately,
> since the drawer is fully inset, the motion of the "drawer front" will
have
> to be outward and then down. The hinge motion should be stopped at around
> 90 degrees of motion.
I'm not sure, but one of the options on this page may lead you to an answer.
Some of their hinge selections installed according to these directions are
limited to 95 degree opening.
http://www.mcfeelys.com/Faceframe3.asp
Bob
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 07:54:03 -0400, "Stephen M"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm looking for some unusual hinge hardware. Perhaps someone can help me
>find something that would fit my needs. The project is an entertainment
>center with four "drawers" in the lower section. Two of these drawers will
>actually be drawers and the other two will be electronics component bays.
>The bays should, however, appear to be drawers when in the closed position
>(ideally, no hinge pins etc. showing in the closed position)
>
>The inset faux drawer front should flip forward (pivoting along its front
>bottom edge). A quadrant hinge is very close to what I need. Unfortunately,
>since the drawer is fully inset, the motion of the "drawer front" will have
>to be outward and then down. The hinge motion should be stopped at around
>90 degrees of motion.
>
>Any points would be a great help.
>
>The folks at Lee Valley suggested this. It will work, but I'd rather not
>have the 170 degree opening.
>
>http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=1&cat=3,41241,40980&p=40980.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Steve
>
I don't know how large the false drawer fronts you're making are, but
perhaps it's possible to use butler's hinges or sewing machine hinges
for your purpose. I used sewing machine hinges when I did was you're
looking to do. Only 'cause I couldn't find butler's hinges
conveniently. The sewing machine hinges have two pins allowing the
leaves to be flush mortised to the surface of both pieces and allow
the two pieces to swing 180 degrees open and back. I use mine only as
90 degree hinges. That will work esp. well if one end of the knuckle
is glued in place.
"Stephen M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > I'm not sure, but one of the options on this page may lead you to an
> answer.
> > Some of their hinge selections installed according to these directions
are
> > limited to 95 degree opening.
> >
> > http://www.mcfeelys.com/Faceframe3.asp
>
>
> Sadly, those are all for overlay (not inset) applications.
Did you look at the figure labeled "Face frame with inset door"? That looks
like its exactly what you are looking for. Maybe you did not scroll down the
page.
Bob
"Stephen M" wrote in message
> The inset faux drawer front should flip forward (pivoting along its front
> bottom edge). A quadrant hinge is very close to what I need.
Unfortunately,
> since the drawer is fully inset, the motion of the "drawer front" will
have
> to be outward and then down. The hinge motion should be stopped at around
> 90 degrees of motion.
Will your design accommodate flipper doors/drawer fronts that swing up or
down, exposing the components?
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BB,
My appologies, I did not look closely enough. I hate the idea of putting
euro-hinges where they will get looked at but it may have to be the way to
go.
Thanks,
Steve
"BillyBob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Stephen M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > > I'm not sure, but one of the options on this page may lead you to an
> > answer.
> > > Some of their hinge selections installed according to these directions
> are
> > > limited to 95 degree opening.
> > >
> > > http://www.mcfeelys.com/Faceframe3.asp
> >
> >
> > Sadly, those are all for overlay (not inset) applications.
>
> Did you look at the figure labeled "Face frame with inset door"? That
looks
> like its exactly what you are looking for. Maybe you did not scroll down
the
> page.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> Yeah, since they would be on the bottom, I can see what you mean. But
since
> they are opening up into electronic component bays, it might be a moot
> appearance point. The important thing (to me) is they would not show at
all
> when closed and they would probably be pretty sturdy and stable, kind of
an
> important factor since I expect they would be opened and closed a lot.
True. The real reason they need to be opened is for the remotes. I
researched IR repeater equipment, but my customer said that he would rather
see how it works out by just opening the bay(s) and maybe later investing in
the repeater hardware if necessary.
I have a new idea of how to solve this problem....
Throw out the requirement of 90 degree swing and use a stay.
I could either engineer one out of wood or use something like this:
http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=1&p=45228&cat=3,43740,43745&ap=1
or
http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=1&p=41909&cat=3,43740,43745&ap=1
along with a barrel hinge like:
http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=1&p=40245&cat=3,41241,41265
or a more heavy duty but similar SOSS hinge like:
http://www.hardwaresource.com/Store_ViewProducts.asp?Cat=149
For this application, cost is not really a factor. Barrel hinges certainly
look easy, but I have never used them. The faux drawer front will be 7" high
by 23" wide and 3/4" thick. Do you think they would be too light duty for
this application? It looks like both of these hinges have the same linkage
geometry and will work for a full inset door. Correct?
Thanks,
Steve
"Stephen M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm looking for some unusual hinge hardware. Perhaps someone can help me
> find something that would fit my needs. The project is an entertainment
> center with four "drawers" in the lower section. Two of these drawers
will
> actually be drawers and the other two will be electronics component bays.
> The bays should, however, appear to be drawers when in the closed position
> (ideally, no hinge pins etc. showing in the closed position)
>
> The inset faux drawer front should flip forward (pivoting along its front
> bottom edge). A quadrant hinge is very close to what I need.
Unfortunately,
> since the drawer is fully inset, the motion of the "drawer front" will
have
> to be outward and then down. The hinge motion should be stopped at around
> 90 degrees of motion.
>
> Any points would be a great help.
>
> The folks at Lee Valley suggested this. It will work, but I'd rather not
> have the 170 degree opening.
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=1&cat=3,41241,40980&p=40980.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
>
"Stephen M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> BB,
>
> My appologies, I did not look closely enough. I hate the idea of putting
> euro-hinges where they will get looked at but it may have to be the way to
> go.
Yeah, since they would be on the bottom, I can see what you mean. But since
they are opening up into electronic component bays, it might be a moot
appearance point. The important thing (to me) is they would not show at all
when closed and they would probably be pretty sturdy and stable, kind of an
important factor since I expect they would be opened and closed a lot.
Bob