I want a JOB for Christmas- in my field!
On 26 Nov 2003 03:44:49 -0800, [email protected] (dteckie) wrote:
>"Greg O" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> "dteckie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
>> > Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
>> > the WREC.
>>
>> Too late! Bought myself a Jet closed stand jointer, Bosch jig saw and a
>> dovetail jig. SWMBO figgered she was done shopping for my present when I got
>> home!
>> About a month ago I picked up a Harbor Frieght 2 HP dust collector, and a
>> Lowes close out DeWalt 733 planer.
>> Greg
>
>SWEEEEEET!
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:56:14 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>RKON wrote:
>
>> I want an angel.
>>
>> http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1085952
>
>Nah, why bother? Chick that looks that good would be spendy.
Mine's not.
JP
do they still make calendars like that?
David DeCristoforo wrote:
>>Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
>>Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
>>the WREC.
>
> How about some nice calender girls to sand my wood?
> DD
>
>
>
> "It's easy when you know how..."
> Johnny Shines
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BRuce
yea but where are the tools! ;-) closest I could find was
"Construction Chicks". I was looking for something just slightly less
obvious, like the old Rigid tools calendars.
BRuce
Charles Jones wrote:
> In article <1069846968.194257@sj-nntpcache-5>, BRuce <BRuce> says...
>
>>do they still make calendars like that?
>
>
> That, and everything else!
>
> http://www.calendars.com
>
> Click on the MODELS tab ... choose your poison
>
> CharlesJ
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BRuce
don't have a calendar either. just looking for wall decoration or door
decoration (not much wall space left). Funny think about SWMBO, she
proly wouldn't object to a tool calendar that has scantily clad women on
it but might make some noises about a scantily clad women calendar. :-)
I do have a clock, it has the correct time and it doubles as the shop cat.
http://facility.hollywoodswoodcrafts.com/images/shopcat1-web.JPG
BRuce
Charles Jones wrote:
> In article <1069869913.133019@sj-nntpcache-3>, BRuce <BRuce> says...
>
>>yea but where are the tools! ;-) closest I could find was
>>"Construction Chicks". I was looking for something just slightly less
>>obvious, like the old Rigid tools calendars.
>
>
> Ah! You must be one of those "combination" machine users; you want
> girls *and* tools in your calendars. Here I was assuming a more
> dedicated-task focus ... you know, the tools-I-already-have so the
> calendar should focus on what I *don't* have. :-)
>
> Funny thing is I don't have a calendar of any kind in my shop. Do have
> a clock though ... not that it tells the correct time ...
>
> CharlesJ
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Tue, Nov 25, 2003, 3:58am (EST-3) [email protected] (dteckie) who wants
to know, but doesn't say himself:
Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for Christams.
Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading the WREC.
Tell her to buy me wood. I can wing it with any tool(s) I don't
have. But, If she's got any short, cute, single girlfriends, she can
send one along, as a sacrifice for the Woodworking Gods.
JOAT
I suffer from Sumtimes Syndrome. Sumtimes I remember, sumtimes I...
What?
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 26 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
Great... lot's of shop time here. No money to buy wood.
-David
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:05:07 -0500, "solarman"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Jobs just cut down on your shop time!
>
>"Phisherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On 25 Nov 2003 03:58:55 -0800, [email protected] (dteckie) wrote:
>>
>> >Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
>> >Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
>> >the WREC.
>>
>> A job! (That way I can buy what I want.)
>
Silvan <[email protected]> writes:
>What do I *want*?
>Oh, why bother listing it all? My someday list is up to about $10,000 by
>the time you factor in building a decent shop.
I don't know how anyone could build a decent shop building for $10,000.
Estimates from various contractors for my someday shop building:
Concrete slab $5000
Building materials $6000
Seamless steel siding $4400 (To match house)
A total of $15400 without any labor (except siding and slab).
The size is only 22' x 28'. I have to have planning commission approval.
That is why everything has to match the house.
Brian Elfert
Brian Elfert writes:
>I don't know how anyone could build a decent shop building for $10,000.
>
>Estimates from various contractors for my someday shop building:
>
>Concrete slab $5000
>Building materials $6000
>Seamless steel siding $4400 (To match house)
>
>A total of $15400 without any labor (except siding and slab).
>
>The size is only 22' x 28'. I have to have planning commission approval.
>That is why everything has to match the house.
The joys of country living. I built a wood floored 25x48 shop a few years ago,
and, IIRC, total cost was under 15K. I wouldn't want to try it on 10K, though.
The use of windows traded for old tools, doors made out of plywood and 2x4,
rough cut poplar siding and subfloor, all helped.
I will suggest that you do it before you turn 60.
Charlie Self
"Say what you will about the ten commandments, you must always come back to the
pleasant fact that there are only ten of them." H. L. Mencken
Fri, Nov 28, 2003, 3:44pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Brian=A0Elfert)
laments:
<snip>
Concrete slab =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 $5000 <snip>
The size is only 22' x 28'. <snip>
I'm glad I don't live where you do. When I come up with the loot
(should be soon), it will run me just about $1500 for a slightly larger
slab. I'll have a total of about $5000 in it, less electric, when it's
up.
JOAT
I suffer from Sumtimes Syndrome. Sumtimes I remember, sumtimes I...
What?
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 29 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
[email protected] (T.) writes:
>Fri, Nov 28, 2003, 3:44pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Brian=A0Elfert)
>laments:
><snip>
>Concrete slab =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 $5000 <snip>
>The size is only 22' x 28'. <snip>
> I'm glad I don't live where you do. When I come up with the loot
>(should be soon), it will run me just about $1500 for a slightly larger
>slab. I'll have a total of about $5000 in it, less electric, when it's
My concrete slab is somewhat unique. Rather than just thickened around
the edges, it also is thickened in the middle and has a 12" high wall all
the way around. The price also includes some light excavation to level
everything out. If I did all the labor myself, the price would be a lot
less.
Brian Elfert
Mon, Dec 1, 2003, 2:39pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Brian=A0Elfert) says:
My concrete slab is somewhat unique. Rather than just thickened around
the edges, it also is thickened in the middle and has a 12" high wall
all the way around. The price also includes some light excavation to
level everything out. If I did all the labor myself, the price would be
a lot less.
My slab will be flat, no wall. But, it will be thick enough for
vehicles (reinforced), and as the area is on a slight slope, will
include fill, etc., and labor. Of course, the $1500 is low bid, high
somewhere around $1800-2000, as I recall.
If I could get the kids to help with labor, probably would cost
around $600 - cost of concrete, but I'm sure that ain't gonna happen.
However, they have agreed to assemble the structure, once the slab is
in. This will be primarily a garage/shop, with half on-call for my
personal projects. I think the only reason they've volunteered to
assemble it, is because they think they can just take it over, once it's
up. No prob, I'll let 'em dream on, until it's actually up.
JOAT
People think that professional soldiers think a lot about fighting, but
serious professional soldiers think a lot more about food and a warm
place to sleep, because these are two things that are generally hard to
get, whereas fighting tends to turn up all the time.
- General Friit
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 30 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Brian Elfert writes:
>
> >I don't know how anyone could build a decent shop building for $10,000.
And Charlie replies:
> The joys of country living. I built a wood floored 25x48 shop a few years
ago,
> and, IIRC, total cost was under 15K. I wouldn't want to try it on 10K,
though.
> The use of windows traded for old tools, doors made out of plywood and
2x4,
> rough cut poplar siding and subfloor, all helped.
Costs for me -
Concrete slab with radiant floor tubing $3000 (slab DIY and $80/yd for
crete)
24x36 white pine timber frame, purlins, shiplap and trim - free(*)
Electrical and plumbing - a couple grand
Roofing - cost of materials
Labor to do-it-yourself, including cutting the frame and all other wooden
parts on your own mill, from your own trees - a whole lot (and it ain't
priceless) but it isn't cash out of hand.
(*) the gas and oil costs some money, I guess....
Jon E
Jon Endres responds:
>Concrete slab with radiant floor tubing $3000 (slab DIY and $80/yd for
>crete)
>24x36 white pine timber frame, purlins, shiplap and trim - free(*)
>Electrical and plumbing - a couple grand
>Roofing - cost of materials
>Labor to do-it-yourself, including cutting the frame and all other wooden
>parts on your own mill, from your own trees - a whole lot (and it ain't
>priceless) but it isn't cash out of hand.
But it does help to have the land, the trees and the mill. I got some guys to
put my roof on...I'm not enamored of the idea of sliding 16' x 3' wide sheets
of tin around myself, but otherwise, labor was my wife's and mine, though I
bought the lumber (all the framing lumber, subfloor and siding cost under
$3000).
Used seconds on the roofing. Traded for a batch of stuff. Did favors for some
more. No plumbing. Electrical is no sweat, as that's fairly cheap. Square D 200
amp box. Power company charged $205 to run an underground cable 185' to my shop
meter. In Parkersburg, they were estimating OVER $1000 to run any kind of cable
about 85' so I could change my box location.
Heat: essentially free. Got an electric furnace from a local HVAC guy just
before he discarded it. Works fine, but the people had gone with another kind
of heating.
I was idiot enough to discard the AC, but we've got 3-4 small AC units from the
house that will go in (put central air in the house about 3 years ago).
Beg, chisel, everything short of stealing.
But it is far more shop than I ever expected to have and will get daily use
when we return to VA shortly.
Charlie Self
"Say what you will about the ten commandments, you must always come back to the
pleasant fact that there are only ten of them." H. L. Mencken
[email protected] (dteckie) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
> Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
> the WREC.
This is the first time in several years I have not needed a major tool
in the shop. For my recent birthday she had an electrician add some
new circuits to the shop, and the daughters bought me a link belt for
my table saw.
For Christmas, a new mitre gauge for my table saw. The one that came
with it is pretty bad.
Dick Durbin
Jobs just cut down on your shop time!
"Phisherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 25 Nov 2003 03:58:55 -0800, [email protected] (dteckie) wrote:
>
> >Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
> >Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
> >the WREC.
>
> A job! (That way I can buy what I want.)
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:58:50 GMT, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Living in an apartment, I'd like Santa to bring me a place to setup and use
>my tools. Of course, if Santa wants to bring me a SWMBO too, then I'd
>certainly consider it. :)
>
>"dteckie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
>> Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
>> the WREC.
>
You aren't getting my SWMBO, she already said i could have a new Delta
36-650c for Christmas. But after we discussed it further it was
decided this would be put off until spring because i can't work out
there in the winter anyway. So I guess I'm getting a Canon 420EX for
my other hobby.
Ken
David DeCristoforo asks:
>>Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
>>Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
>>the WREC.
>How about some nice calender girls to sand my wood?
I think John Lucas has most of those already.
Charlie Self
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would
promise them missionaries for dinner." H. L. Mencken
Well Geez guys, if we're getting what we want, I'd prefer the calendar girls
to rub me down than sanding my wood. Or, am I taking his response too
literally? :)
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> David DeCristoforo asks:
> >How about some nice calender girls to sand my wood?
Luigi Zanasi wrote:
> Tool Porn:
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/gifts/page.asp?SID=&page=44293&category=4%2C104%
And then some... Mine is dog eared already.
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On 25 Nov 2003 03:58:55 -0800, [email protected] (dteckie) wrote:
>Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
>Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
>the WREC.
Doors and windows. The shell's done, got the exterior painted just in
time for the freeze. _Need_ doors and windows. I'll build them over
Thanksgiving.
Michael
I want an angel.
http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1085952
Viewer may be offended....Beware
"dteckie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
> Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
> the WREC.
Living in an apartment, I'd like Santa to bring me a place to setup and use
my tools. Of course, if Santa wants to bring me a SWMBO too, then I'd
certainly consider it. :)
"dteckie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
> Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
> the WREC.
Upscale notes:
>Living in an apartment, I'd like Santa to bring me a place to setup and use
>my tools. Of course, if Santa wants to bring me a SWMBO too, then I'd
>certainly consider it. :)
Well, I've got the second, but she's not all that obedient.
I'd really like to get back to my shop, get away from the tiny, under-powered
shop I have here. Wish I could move this house and keep it, but it doesn't work
that way. We get to go back to the '62 model, instead of the '15.
Charlie Self
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would
promise them missionaries for dinner." H. L. Mencken
"dteckie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
> Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
> the WREC.
>
Mine already came in the mail: A Shepherd Tools Norris A6 Replica Smoother
Kit. Now I just have to wait for Christmas Day. :-(
Cheers,
Eric
In article <1069846968.194257@sj-nntpcache-5>, BRuce <BRuce> says...
> do they still make calendars like that?
That, and everything else!
http://www.calendars.com
Click on the MODELS tab ... choose your poison
CharlesJ
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In article <1069869913.133019@sj-nntpcache-3>, BRuce <BRuce> says...
> yea but where are the tools! ;-) closest I could find was
> "Construction Chicks". I was looking for something just slightly less
> obvious, like the old Rigid tools calendars.
Ah! You must be one of those "combination" machine users; you want
girls *and* tools in your calendars. Here I was assuming a more
dedicated-task focus ... you know, the tools-I-already-have so the
calendar should focus on what I *don't* have. :-)
Funny thing is I don't have a calendar of any kind in my shop. Do have
a clock though ... not that it tells the correct time ...
CharlesJ
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"dteckie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
> Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
> the WREC.
Jointer. Just can't decide which one but I'm leaning towards the $399
Bridgewood
Ed
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Wolf Lahti wrote:
> Depends on how good/lucky you are at scrounging. I got everything I
> needed for a 24-by-24 pole building with cedar board-and-batten siding
> and 2-inch-thick Australian pine* floor for about $300. That doesn't
> include wiring, but hey--it's a price I can live with.
>
> A local contractor said he could build it for around $17,000, so I
> guess
> a couple weeks of my labor is worth $16,700. :)
The king of scroungers in my experience is the brother of a college friend.
He built a large log house with bark-beetle logs the Forest Service gave
away, and a sawmill buddy put two flat edges on each log..
-- Mark
The Lie-Nielsen shoulder plane shown here!
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Glen
"dteckie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
> Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
> the WREC.
My wife has gotten me the "Fine Tools" catalog from Ronnie Sellers
Productions - stunning pictures of the best in old hand tools.
Unfortunately they are not putting out a 2004 edition and she has had no
luck finding any sort of replacement. Any one know of something similar
available?
<BRuce> wrote in message news:1069869913.133019@sj-nntpcache-3...
> yea but where are the tools! ;-) closest I could find was
> "Construction Chicks". I was looking for something just slightly less
> obvious, like the old Rigid tools calendars.
>
> BRuce
>
> Charles Jones wrote:
>
> > In article <1069846968.194257@sj-nntpcache-5>, BRuce <BRuce> says...
> >
> >>do they still make calendars like that?
> >
> >
> > That, and everything else!
> >
> > http://www.calendars.com
> >
> > Click on the MODELS tab ... choose your poison
> >
> > CharlesJ
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> BRuce
>
Jay Pique wrote:
>>>I want an angel.
>>>
>>>http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1085952
>>
>>Nah, why bother? Chick that looks that good would be spendy.
>
>
> Mine's not.
Mine neither...
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:38:19 -0500, "Thomas Satrom"
<[email protected]> scribbled
>My wife has gotten me the "Fine Tools" catalog from Ronnie Sellers
>Productions - stunning pictures of the best in old hand tools.
>Unfortunately they are not putting out a 2004 edition and she has had no
>luck finding any sort of replacement. Any one know of something similar
>available?
Tool Porn:
http://www.leevalley.com/gifts/page.asp?SID=&page=44293&category=4%2C104%2C45474&ccurrency=2
Luigi
Replace "no" with "yk" for real email address
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:44:22 -0700, "GeeDubb" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>dteckie wrote:
>> Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
>> Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
>> the WREC.
>
>A commercial espresso machine........
>
>and a high end lathe
>
>Guess which one costs more............
>
>Gary
>
I'll bite. The espresso machine.
How true. I'm amazed what I've made from free pallet wood!
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:05:07 -0500, "solarman"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Jobs just cut down on your shop time!
>
>"Phisherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On 25 Nov 2003 03:58:55 -0800, [email protected] (dteckie) wrote:
>>
>> >Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
>> >Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
>> >the WREC.
>>
>> A job! (That way I can buy what I want.)
Well...If'n SWMBO can get me a bigger garage (like a four car)...then
I'll supply the rest ;o)
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"dteckie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Silvan <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > RKON wrote:
> >
> > > I want an angel.
> > >
> > > http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1085952
> >
> > Nah, why bother? Chick that looks that good would be spendy.
The old saying goes . . ."If it's got t*ts or tires, sooner or later it's
gonna cause trouble and cost money"(LOL)
Nahmie
Norman Crow responds:
>> Silvan <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:<[email protected]>...
>> > RKON wrote:
>> >
>> > > I want an angel.
>> > >
>> > > http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1085952
>> >
>> > Nah, why bother? Chick that looks that good would be spendy.
>
>The old saying goes . . ."If it's got t*ts or tires, sooner or later it's
>gonna cause trouble and cost money"(LOL)
Reminds me of an old friend, called to say he and his wife, both of whom I'd
known since college, were splitting. She was a gorgeous, tiny redhead (back in
the days before EVERY woman was a redhead). I said something about it being a
shame, and his comment was, "No matter how great they are, somebody, somewhere
is tired of their sh*t."
Charlie Self
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would
promise them missionaries for dinner." H. L. Mencken
Christmas came early this year for me.
Just got the 2 last pieces today.
Bosch orbital sander
Bosch 1/2" 1617 router kit
Freud router table and fence
Freud raised panel bit set
Delta 6" grinder
Delta 6" Jointer
Delta Morticer
Delta 8" stacked dado set
Delta tenon jig
Cool gadget for pushing small pieces thru router or table saw.
Now I think I better start thinking about my wife or else I'm in
trouble.....
Daniel
On 25 Nov 2003 03:58:55 -0800, [email protected] (dteckie) wrote:
>Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
>Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
>the WREC.
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> RKON wrote:
>
> > I want an angel.
> >
> > http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1085952
>
> Nah, why bother? Chick that looks that good would be spendy.
Yeah I agree. She'll probably take up too much of your time wanting
this and that . Will not give you time with your other love, like
making sawdust with your tools.
As for myself this year don't need any tools just a bigger shop so I
can fill it with more tools and wood.
LOL
"Greg O" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "dteckie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
> > Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
> > the WREC.
>
> Too late! Bought myself a Jet closed stand jointer, Bosch jig saw and a
> dovetail jig. SWMBO figgered she was done shopping for my present when I got
> home!
> About a month ago I picked up a Harbor Frieght 2 HP dust collector, and a
> Lowes close out DeWalt 733 planer.
> Greg
SWEEEEEET!
Brian Elfert wrote:
>
> I don't know how anyone could build a decent shop building for $10,000.
>
> Estimates from various contractors for my someday shop building:
>
> Concrete slab $5000
> Building materials $6000
> Seamless steel siding $4400 (To match house)
>
> A total of $15400 without any labor (except siding and slab).
>
> The size is only 22' x 28'. I have to have planning commission approval.
> That is why everything has to match the house.
>
Depends on how good/lucky you are at scrounging. I got everything I
needed for a 24-by-24 pole building with cedar board-and-batten siding
and 2-inch-thick Australian pine* floor for about $300. That doesn't
include wiring, but hey--it's a price I can live with.
A local contractor said he could build it for around $17,000, so I guess
a couple weeks of my labor is worth $16,700. :)
(*No, I have no idea what Australian pine is, either. Work had this
enormous shipping crate made of some kind of pine, and it was shipped
from Oz.)
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (dteckie) wrote:
> Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
> Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
> the WREC.
My present is on its way already - a Mule Accusquare fence and their
router table. Should arrive any day now.
Have you tried one of the pod machines?
We've got one (Grimac Terry, about $400) at the office that makes pretty
good espresso, and you don't have to dick around with grinding and
packing...
Get yer' Grimac here:
http://www.capriflavors.com/coffee_machines_new.php
http://www.espressosystems.net/EQUIPMENT/GRIMAC/TerryPod.htm
Pods can be found here (and probably about a million other places)
http://www.espressopods.com
Far, far cheaper than a high end lathe...
"Lazarus Long" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:44:22 -0700, "GeeDubb" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >dteckie wrote:
> >> Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
> >> Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
> >> the WREC.
> >
> >A commercial espresso machine........
> >
> >and a high end lathe
> >
> >Guess which one costs more............
> >
> >Gary
> >
>
> I'll bite. The espresso machine.
"dteckie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
> Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
> the WREC.
What do I *want*?
Oh, why bother listing it all? My someday list is up to about $10,000 by
the time you factor in building a decent shop.
I'm getting practically none of it. Why not list what I'm actually getting?
JET mini lathe
maybe a scroll saw
maybe a new router
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What I want is to have it be my shop exclusively........not share it with
shelves full of sleeping bags, air conditioners, coolers, roller blades,
bikes, a snowblower, and a lawnmower.
Doesn't she realize I have to stack all that lumber somewhere, and where am
I going to put that bandsaw?
Dave
"dteckie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
> Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
> the WREC.
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:14:14 GMT, Phisherman <[email protected]>
brought forth from the murky depths:
>On 25 Nov 2003 03:58:55 -0800, [email protected] (dteckie) wrote:
>
>>Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
>>Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
>>the WREC.
>
>A job! (That way I can buy what I want.)
Ditto here: MORE WORK! (Since I'm self-employed)
After that, prolly a Shop Fox mortiser.
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I rather like the idea of an open house in the shop. All wRECers
invited. Free food and grog. I'll lock up the hand tools and the
silver. Maggy says she's called the guys with the butterfly nets. Oh
well maybe the State Home for the Criminally Goofy has high speed access.
mahalo,
jo4hn
dteckie wrote:
> Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
> Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
> the WREC.
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:06:01 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
>Luigi Zanasi wrote:
>> Tool Porn:
>>
>> http://www.leevalley.com/gifts/page.asp?SID=&page=44293&category=4%2C104%
Hey, I'll have to order one of each of those. Good source,
good cause, great price! I suppose I _could_ order one or
two other things while I'm at it, huh? I'm way overdue.
<scritch, scritch, scritch>
>And then some... Mine is dog eared already.
I'd like to see Rob also put out a nice nekkid calendar
of those superb Canuckistani wimmenz. (Shania Twain,
Natasha Henstridge, Pamela Anderson, Neve Campbell,
Sarah Polley, Gloria Reuben, Jessica Steen, and Jillian
Hennesey are a few.)
Note to ROB: When is LVT going to start accepting Paypal?
It's quicker and easier to spend it online than it is to
divert it from Paypal to my bank. <this is a hint>
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On 25 Nov 2003 03:58:55 -0800, dteckie <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
> Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
> the WREC.
5hp Unisaw with a 50" Beis fence. Oh . . and an 800 square foot headed
shop to keep it dry.
On 25 Nov 2003 03:58:55 -0800, [email protected] (dteckie) wrote:
>Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
>Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
>the WREC.
A job! (That way I can buy what I want.)
RKON wrote:
> I want an angel.
>
> http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1085952
Nah, why bother? Chick that looks that good would be spendy.
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Brian Elfert wrote:
> I don't know how anyone could build a decent shop building for $10,000.
> The size is only 22' x 28'. I have to have planning commission approval.
> That is why everything has to match the house.
Hee... I don't have to get it past any froofy color matching type
regulations, which helps.
I'm not sure what the zoning/planning people would say to a request for a
new shop building. My zoning situation is awkward. We're a residential
neighborhood, but zoned commercial. They might deny me a new shop, or they
might make me pay commercial taxes on it.
That's why my idea of a "decent" shop is just a bigger shed built on the
same site. Stretch it a little here and a little there, and chances are
nobody will ever notice, and I'll never have to deal with any awkwardness.
Just getting it off the ground and away from termites would be a big
improvment, as I'm waiting to fall through the floor of my present shop any
day now.
In thinking about shop sizes, I really have to get *much* bigger before I
see any real overall capacity gain in terms of the size of work I can
handle comfortably. I can't site a building that large on my property
anyway, unless I give up, say, the patch where we play croquet and toss a
baseball around, or the well-established berry patch that chucks out
delicious fruit for a good bit of the year. I don't have a lot of land to
work with, so my sights are set on a sound, well-constructed,
well-insulated, climate-controlled building that's only maybe 10-20% larger
than the existing pile of termite droppings.
(Or maybe I win the lottery and buy that mostly empty industrial/commercial
building across the street from my house. Let the one tenant pay for my
taxes and insurance, then use the rest of the space for me. Yeah bayyyybe,
get me some three phase monster sawdust makers and have all the room
anybody could ever use... I figure my chances of finding a winning lottery
ticket aren't much worse than my chances of winning if I play, so I don't
buy tickets. ;)
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Silvan writes:
>I'm not sure what the zoning/planning people would say to a request for a
>new shop building. My zoning situation is awkward. We're a residential
>neighborhood, but zoned commercial. They might deny me a new shop, or they
>might make me pay commercial taxes on it.
>
>That's why my idea of a "decent" shop is just a bigger shed built on the
>same site. Stretch it a little here and a little there, and chances are
>nobody will ever notice, and I'll never have to deal with any awkwardness.
>Just getting it off the ground and away from termites would be a big
>improvment, as I'm waiting to fall through the floor of my present shop any
>day now.
If you can do it the way Bedford County does it...get it listed as
agricultural. Then there's no inspection, no requirements at all really, and
taxes are low. You need more than a city lot, though. I always figgered our 2
acres could support some chickens, but I went ahead and got a building permit
anyway.
Charlie Self
"Say what you will about the ten commandments, you must always come back to the
pleasant fact that there are only ten of them." H. L. Mencken
Sat, Nov 29, 2003, 9:19am [email protected] (Silvan) says:
<snip> my idea of a "decent" shop is just a bigger shed built on the
same site.<snip>
Buy a smaller mobile home, or a travel trailer. Instant shop.
I've seen 'em for as low as $400. Strip out some of the stuff inside,
and sell it, you could even wind up with one free.
That was my original plan. I was finding all sorts of them for
$400. And me with no money Then when I got a bit of money, couldn't
find a damn one for under about $1500. Couldn't swing that, and knew I
had to get something quick, or the money'd be gone, so got my shop.
Sure enough, about 6 months later, started finding them for $400 again -
but if I'd waited that long, I would have already spent the money.
JOAT
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JOAT writes:
>Sat, Nov 29, 2003, 9:19am [email protected] (Silvan) says:
><snip> my idea of a "decent" shop is just a bigger shed built on the
>same site.<snip>
>
> Buy a smaller mobile home, or a travel trailer. Instant shop.
>I've seen 'em for as low as $400. Strip out some of the stuff inside,
>and sell it, you could even wind up with one free.
I know a guy, James Jones, who makes musical instruments, who did just that.
Got himself a large old trailer as a shop, moved it in, and used it for several
years until he got his real shop built. His real shop isn't exactly a
fantasyland piece, but it's darned close. Don't have a clue as to the money
involved, but it worked for him, kept him solvent while he was touring craft
shows, building a shop and supporting a family.
Charlie Self
"Say what you will about the ten commandments, you must always come back to the
pleasant fact that there are only ten of them." H. L. Mencken
T. wrote:
> Buy a smaller mobile home, or a travel trailer. Instant shop.
> I've seen 'em for as low as $400. Strip out some of the stuff inside,
> and sell it, you could even wind up with one free.
I'm thinking about a used semi trailer, if I could figure out a place to
park it that wouldn't be obnoxious. Same kind of idea. The old, short
ones sell for practically nothing.
No place to put it though.
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Charlie Self wrote:
> If you can do it the way Bedford County does it...get it listed as
> agricultural. Then there's no inspection, no requirements at all really,
No chance of that. Before the road, the neighbors who would get eminent
domained out cried long and hard, and convinced the zoning board to change
this whole subdivision to commercial, so they could get more for their
houses.
Since we're just over the hill from all the sprawl, and there are only a few
houses here, sandwiched in by businesses on either side of the subdivision,
getting them to change it to anything else would be awkward.
It's really not good commercial real estate though, as evinced by that empty
industrial/commercial shell across the street that's been there almost two
years. One electrical supply place on the end, and the other 5/6 or so of
it is vacant.
I guess I'm kind of glad it's vacant though. They almost put a church youth
center in there, for troubled youth... That just gives me the willies. I
don't like the idea of a bunch of troubled, borderline criminal teens with
a direct line of sight to my shop. I'd have to keep the doors closed, and
avoid making any revealing noises, lest they seek out some cheap thrills
and pot money.
Anyway, offer me $250,000 for the place (not really unreasonable under the
circumstances, as that's only twice the tax value as a residence after they
raised everyone's property values so high), and I'm outta here. No more
problems then. Get an apartment for a couple of years until I'm done
building my castle with the huge ass shop out back. :)
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I already got mine....a Grizzly 18v cordless drill-driver.
Happy Holidays to all.
Joe
"dteckie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
> Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
> the WREC.
"dteckie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just curious! I want to know what other woodworkers want for
> Christams. Here is a chance to place your list. Maybe SWMBO is reading
> the WREC.
Too late! Bought myself a Jet closed stand jointer, Bosch jig saw and a
dovetail jig. SWMBO figgered she was done shopping for my present when I got
home!
About a month ago I picked up a Harbor Frieght 2 HP dust collector, and a
Lowes close out DeWalt 733 planer.
Greg
"Tom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > "Greg O" wrote:
>
> >a
> >Lowes close out DeWalt 733 planer.
>
> How much was that? No, wait, don't tell me. Tom
> Someday, it'll all be over....
$199
Greg
"Brian Elfert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Silvan <[email protected]> writes:
>
> >What do I *want*?
>
> >Oh, why bother listing it all? My someday list is up to about $10,000 by
> >the time you factor in building a decent shop.
>
> I don't know how anyone could build a decent shop building for $10,000.
>
> Estimates from various contractors for my someday shop building:
>
> Concrete slab $5000
> Building materials $6000
> Seamless steel siding $4400 (To match house)
>
> A total of $15400 without any labor (except siding and slab).
>
> The size is only 22' x 28'. I have to have planning commission approval.
> That is why everything has to match the house.
>
> Brian Elfert
My gar...shop was built by the previous owner of the property. He claims
that he put around $22,000 into building it! 24' X 38'.
Greg