"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ignoramus30647 wrote:
> ...
>
> I suspect even if OSHA didn't get 'em the lawyers did. There is the
> hand-positioning argument somebody else mentioned. For ordinary press w/
> just a drill not too much can go on; but add a large diameter circle
> cutter or somesuch and there's some reason to be aware...
In the past, the only DP I ever saw with a foot pedal feed was one dedicated
to cutting square hole mortises. The last one I recall seeing was in the
later 60's in JrHigh shop.
Could the disappearance of the foot feed actually be because of the
introduction of the bench top mortiser and there is not as much reason for
the pedal anymore? Just wondering.
On Oct 6, 4:31=A0am, Ignoramus9936 <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I would like to know if a downfeed pedal (not a switch, but a pedal to
> lower the quillo) is a part that I can buy, in my case for a Delta
> 17-900 drill press. Thanks
So, you want to position the material with hands and feed with
foot? It isn't generally considered safe, standing on one foot with
machine tools whirring nearby, or holding the work with hands
while the drill is powering through.
I suspect the most convenient way is to clamp the work in a jig,
then (with both hands free) use the usual manual rack-and-pinion
feed. And, that's the way the manufacturer recommends you proceed.
On Oct 9, 6:50=A0am, Ignoramus540 <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I like the pedals because they let me hold a part with two hands for
> drilling.
>
> With small drill bits, it is perfectly safe.
Maybe not 'perfectly', but ...
If one were to mount a small hydraulic cylinder at the depth-stop
and fit it to an hydraulic pump with a series valve or orifice (to
limit speed) and shunt metering valve (to limit feed pressure)
and shunt valve (to cut the feed pressure off and allow
the quill to return), a simple footswitch can't be a hard item
to locate.
Ignoramus9936 wrote:
> I would like to know if a downfeed pedal (not a switch, but a pedal to
> lower the quillo) is a part that I can buy, in my case for a Delta
> 17-900 drill press. Thanks
The logical place to ask if there's a factory kit for the particular
press would be Delta...
There certainly are (or at least used to be; I've not looked recently so
don't know if they're something that has succumbed to OSHA/lawyers or
not) at least some; whether there's one specifically for or easily
adaptable currently available don't know.
A quick search found an old Delta 15-820 attachment for 15" presses.
But, a search at Delta found only parts manual for the feed, not a
product and none showed in the accessories for presses.
So, I'd assume they've gone the way of the dodo.
I have seen some retrofits or whether there's any chance at all to find
a relic somewhere I've no clue...
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Ignoramus30647 wrote:
> On 2009-10-07, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Ignoramus9936 wrote:
>>> I would like to know if a downfeed pedal (not a switch, but a pedal to
>>> lower the quillo) is a part that I can buy, in my case for a Delta
>>> 17-900 drill press. Thanks
>> The logical place to ask if there's a factory kit for the particular
>> press would be Delta...
>
> I already looked and could not find one.
But did you actually _ASK_????
...
>> So, I'd assume they've gone the way of the dodo.
>
> It would seem to be the case, and I do not know why. These pedals do
> not seem to be dangerous.
...
I suspect even if OSHA didn't get 'em the lawyers did. There is the
hand-positioning argument somebody else mentioned. For ordinary press
w/ just a drill not too much can go on; but add a large diameter circle
cutter or somesuch and there's some reason to be aware...
I'd look at OWWM and similar--the Mike's parts place somebody posted in
the jointer-fence case recently is worth looking to as well.
And, as mentioned previously, there are several plans for retrofitting
if it's worth some effort.
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Leon wrote:
> "dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Ignoramus30647 wrote:
>
>> ...
>>
>> I suspect even if OSHA didn't get 'em the lawyers did. There is the
>> hand-positioning argument somebody else mentioned. For ordinary press w/
>> just a drill not too much can go on; but add a large diameter circle
>> cutter or somesuch and there's some reason to be aware...
>
>
> In the past, the only DP I ever saw with a foot pedal feed was one dedicated
> to cutting square hole mortises. The last one I recall seeing was in the
> later 60's in JrHigh shop.
> Could the disappearance of the foot feed actually be because of the
> introduction of the bench top mortiser and there is not as much reason for
> the pedal anymore? Just wondering.
Could be--certainly the use w/ the mortiser was probably the prime
reason for them.
I was just theorizing that perhaps it was OSHA; that's all, no basis
other than the liability and/or safety issue has got some much stuff
seemed reasonable guess...
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Ignoramus540 wrote:
> On 2009-10-09, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Could be--certainly the use w/ the mortiser was probably the prime
>> reason for them.
>>
>> I was just theorizing that perhaps it was OSHA; that's all, no basis
>> other than the liability and/or safety issue has got some much stuff
>> seemed reasonable guess...
>
> I like the pedals because they let me hold a part with two hands for
> drilling.
>
> With small drill bits, it is perfectly safe.
_NOTHING_ is "perfectly" safe... :)
And, no, I'm not saying don't use one; if I had one I'd use it, too, at
times.
Depending on what one's drilling, the mountable clamping pliers is
useful or jigs if it's repetitive...
Don't guess you've had any luck finding old stock parts...only other
thing besides the manufacture one oneself would be the larger
industrial-specific manufacturers might still have such things whereas
Delta has dropped them.
I didn't check General as the one other non-US similar-market
manufacturer that also makes heavier stuff as well as small-shop...
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"Ignoramus540" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 2009-10-09, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Could be--certainly the use w/ the mortiser was probably the prime
>> reason for them.
>>
>> I was just theorizing that perhaps it was OSHA; that's all, no basis
>> other than the liability and/or safety issue has got some much stuff
>> seemed reasonable guess...
>
> I like the pedals because they let me hold a part with two hands for
> drilling.
>
> With small drill bits, it is perfectly safe.
>
> i
I bet it would be less expensive to buy a Rockler DP table with clamps and a
lot cheaper to make your own.
On 2009-10-09, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
> Could be--certainly the use w/ the mortiser was probably the prime
> reason for them.
>
> I was just theorizing that perhaps it was OSHA; that's all, no basis
> other than the liability and/or safety issue has got some much stuff
> seemed reasonable guess...
I like the pedals because they let me hold a part with two hands for
drilling.
With small drill bits, it is perfectly safe.
i
On 2009-10-07, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ignoramus9936 wrote:
>> I would like to know if a downfeed pedal (not a switch, but a pedal to
>> lower the quillo) is a part that I can buy, in my case for a Delta
>> 17-900 drill press. Thanks
>
> The logical place to ask if there's a factory kit for the particular
> press would be Delta...
I already looked and could not find one.
> There certainly are (or at least used to be; I've not looked recently so
> don't know if they're something that has succumbed to OSHA/lawyers or
> not) at least some; whether there's one specifically for or easily
> adaptable currently available don't know.
>
> A quick search found an old Delta 15-820 attachment for 15" presses.
>
> But, a search at Delta found only parts manual for the feed, not a
> product and none showed in the accessories for presses.
>
> So, I'd assume they've gone the way of the dodo.
It would seem to be the case, and I do not know why. These pedals do
not seem to be dangerous.
> I have seen some retrofits or whether there's any chance at all to find
> a relic somewhere I've no clue...
I will keep looking, I guess.