I know most folks here have more sophisticated tools, but i love the
SS for drill press, lathe and routing...
I recently found out that they make a biscuit assembly for it and
wondered if anyone here might have used one??
They're $140 new from shopsmith and there are 3 or 4 new/near new ones
on ebay... have bids on 2 of them now, so any input, good or bad would
be appreciated..
I was thinking that it might be a good addition to my hand held dewalt
for the more precision or repetitive chores...
Mac
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 13:53:48 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>> IMHO Plate Joiner, "Biscuit Joiner" should be portable. You will find
>>that you make quite a few slots in the middlse of a panel surface. That
>>might be impossible with this set up. For that a couple of dllars more you
>>can get t atop notch bull blown Biscuit Joiner.
>>
>>This set up reminds of the Kirby vac's with all the attachments that almost
>>get you into woodworking.
>>
>>> I was thinking that it might be a good addition to my hand held dewalt
>>> for the more precision or repetitive chores...
>>
>>Umm you already have a portable and want to add one that may not be as
>>usable?
>>
>I'd guess he's after tha ability to jig up off of the SS. it could be
>convenient for stuff like face frames and rail and stile setups- but
>those are easy enough to jig up for with the portable machine. I'm not
>familiar with the SS attachment but it seems marginal to me,
>especially at that price, especially since the OP already has a
>standalone machine.
my thought was that if you're doing angles or miters, it would be nice
to have height adjustment from the drill press quill and the saw
table, tilt/angle form the saw table and miter fence..
also, finding another use for the SS that doesn't require it being
changed from the router/hort. drilling/lathe position, which it stays
in since I've added the cut off saw and RAS sort of appeals to me..
Mac
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 20:24:20 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>> They're $140 new from shopsmith and there are 3 or 4 new/near new ones
>> on ebay... have bids on 2 of them now, so any input, good or bad would
>> be appreciated..
> IMHO Plate Joiner, "Biscuit Joiner" should be portable. You will find
>that you make quite a few slots in the middlse of a panel surface. That
>might be impossible with this set up. For that a couple of dllars more you
>can get t atop notch bull blown Biscuit Joiner.
>
>This set up reminds of the Kirby vac's with all the attachments that almost
>get you into woodworking.
>
>> I was thinking that it might be a good addition to my hand held dewalt
>> for the more precision or repetitive chores...
>
>Umm you already have a portable and want to add one that may not be as
>usable?
>
I'd guess he's after tha ability to jig up off of the SS. it could be
convenient for stuff like face frames and rail and stile setups- but
those are easy enough to jig up for with the portable machine. I'm not
familiar with the SS attachment but it seems marginal to me,
especially at that price, especially since the OP already has a
standalone machine.
>On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 20:24:20 GMT, "Leon"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>
>>> They're $140 new from shopsmith and there are 3 or 4 new/near new ones
>>> on ebay... have bids on 2 of them now, so any input, good or bad would
>>> be appreciated..
>> IMHO Plate Joiner, "Biscuit Joiner" should be portable. You will find
>>that you make quite a few slots in the middlse of a panel surface. That
>>might be impossible with this set up. For that a couple of dllars more you
>>can get t atop notch bull blown Biscuit Joiner.
>>
>>This set up reminds of the Kirby vac's with all the attachments that almost
>>get you into woodworking.
>>
>>> I was thinking that it might be a good addition to my hand held dewalt
>>> for the more precision or repetitive chores...
>>
>>Umm you already have a portable and want to add one that may not be as
>>usable?
>>
>
>
>I'd guess he's after tha ability to jig up off of the SS. it could be
>convenient for stuff like face frames and rail and stile setups- but
>those are easy enough to jig up for with the portable machine. I'm not
>familiar with the SS attachment but it seems marginal to me,
>especially at that price, especially since the OP already has a
>standalone machine.
However, since it appears that neither one of you own or use a Shopsmith, let
alone a Shopsmith plate joiner, you really are in no position to comment. The
Shopsmith attachment allows for the use of the full table system and the fence,
along with all of your positioning jigs. If you happen to have an Incra or
Jointech fence system on the Shopsmith that might make it even more useful. On
the other hand, the Shopsmith unit cannot put biscuits in the middle of the
face of a board and can be quite clumsy putting one in the end of a long heavy
board. There have been comments both on the positive side and negative side on
the Shopsmith users group on yahoo with the concensus appearing to be that if
you can only have one it should be portable.
Dave Hall
On 25 Sep 2004 23:46:03 GMT, [email protected] (David Hall) wrote:
>>I'd guess he's after tha ability to jig up off of the SS. it could be
>>convenient for stuff like face frames and rail and stile setups- but
>>those are easy enough to jig up for with the portable machine. I'm not
>>familiar with the SS attachment but it seems marginal to me,
>>especially at that price, especially since the OP already has a
>>standalone machine.
>
>However, since it appears that neither one of you own or use a Shopsmith, let
>alone a Shopsmith plate joiner, you really are in no position to comment. The
>Shopsmith attachment allows for the use of the full table system and the fence,
>along with all of your positioning jigs. If you happen to have an Incra or
>Jointech fence system on the Shopsmith that might make it even more useful. On
>the other hand, the Shopsmith unit cannot put biscuits in the middle of the
>face of a board and can be quite clumsy putting one in the end of a long heavy
>board. There have been comments both on the positive side and negative side on
>the Shopsmith users group on yahoo with the concensus appearing to be that if
>you can only have one it should be portable.
>
>Dave Hall
thanks, Dave... that's pretty much what I was trying to say, but
haven't learned the "wood jargon" yet.. *g*
I downloaded the manual from shopsmith and it shows the saw table
tilted and the work riding on the rip fence to cut the slot in on the
face of the board, if I understand what you're saying..
For long or heavy boards, I plan to use the dewalt on the work
bench...
My problem might be that a lot of my prior woodworking was sort of a
production setup, and this looked pretty cool for the price if you
were gluing up a lot of table tops or boxes...
Mac
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 20:24:20 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>> They're $140 new from shopsmith and there are 3 or 4 new/near new ones
>> on ebay... have bids on 2 of them now, so any input, good or bad would
>> be appreciated..
> IMHO Plate Joiner, "Biscuit Joiner" should be portable. You will find
>that you make quite a few slots in the middlse of a panel surface. That
>might be impossible with this set up. For that a couple of dllars more you
>can get t atop notch bull blown Biscuit Joiner.
>
>This set up reminds of the Kirby vac's with all the attachments that almost
>get you into woodworking.
>
>> I was thinking that it might be a good addition to my hand held dewalt
>> for the more precision or repetitive chores...
>
>Umm you already have a portable and want to add one that may not be as
>usable?
>
you read my mind! lol
I have a dewalt umm... 672?? that works well, but thought that it
would also be nice to have the "stationary" option..
Mac
"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 20:24:20 GMT, "Leon"
> you read my mind! lol
> I have a dewalt umm... 672?? that works well, but thought that it
> would also be nice to have the "stationary" option..
I have been using a plate joiner since 1989. I have never wanted a
stationary or seen where one would be an advantage over a portable. With
stationary you are going to have to lift boards and panels up to the
stationary tool. With portable as you well know, the light weight machine
is easer to move around. I would save my money on this one.
Um, as a 10,000 biscuit a year user, this "tool" from shopsmith is
worthless.
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 20:24:20 GMT, "Leon"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>
> >> They're $140 new from shopsmith and there are 3 or 4 new/near new ones
> >> on ebay... have bids on 2 of them now, so any input, good or bad would
> >> be appreciated..
> > IMHO Plate Joiner, "Biscuit Joiner" should be portable. You will find
> >that you make quite a few slots in the middlse of a panel surface. That
> >might be impossible with this set up. For that a couple of dllars more
you
> >can get t atop notch bull blown Biscuit Joiner.
> >
> >This set up reminds of the Kirby vac's with all the attachments that
almost
> >get you into woodworking.
> >
> >> I was thinking that it might be a good addition to my hand held dewalt
> >> for the more precision or repetitive chores...
> >
> >Umm you already have a portable and want to add one that may not be as
> >usable?
> >
>
>
> I'd guess he's after tha ability to jig up off of the SS. it could be
> convenient for stuff like face frames and rail and stile setups- but
> those are easy enough to jig up for with the portable machine. I'm not
> familiar with the SS attachment but it seems marginal to me,
> especially at that price, especially since the OP already has a
> standalone machine.
"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> They're $140 new from shopsmith and there are 3 or 4 new/near new ones
> on ebay... have bids on 2 of them now, so any input, good or bad would
> be appreciated..
IMHO Plate Joiner, "Biscuit Joiner" should be portable. You will find
that you make quite a few slots in the middlse of a panel surface. That
might be impossible with this set up. For that a couple of dllars more you
can get t atop notch bull blown Biscuit Joiner.
This set up reminds of the Kirby vac's with all the attachments that almost
get you into woodworking.
> I was thinking that it might be a good addition to my hand held dewalt
> for the more precision or repetitive chores...
Umm you already have a portable and want to add one that may not be as
usable?
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 03:42:34 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 20:24:20 GMT, "Leon"
>> you read my mind! lol
>> I have a dewalt umm... 672?? that works well, but thought that it
>> would also be nice to have the "stationary" option..
>
>
>I have been using a plate joiner since 1989. I have never wanted a
>stationary or seen where one would be an advantage over a portable. With
>stationary you are going to have to lift boards and panels up to the
>stationary tool. With portable as you well know, the light weight machine
>is easer to move around. I would save my money on this one.
>
well, so far the cost is less than $50, but I expect more bids...
Most of the things that I'm doing so far are fairly small or short
pieces... maybe the beginners way of not making too much expensive saw
dust?
I played with mounting my Dewalt on the saw table last night and doing
3 or 10 sample cuts, and the idea of having the cutter on the quill
and using both hands to push the work into the cutter makes sense to
me... but obviously I have a LOT to learn...
This group is fantastic!
Mac