http://www.lowes.com/pl_Cordless+Drills_4294857547_4294937087_?Ns=p_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr|0||p_product_quantity_sold|1
Hover your mouse over "Ideas & How-tos".
Lowe's online hardware store shows a guy using a miter saw while wearing
gloves.
Wouldn't it be better to have a cut finger than to have your hand pulled
into the blade?
On Monday, December 1, 2014 7:23:13 PM UTC-6, Swingman wrote:
=20
> Best practice for wRec"ers, don't reply to crossposting "John Doe" trolls=
.
Amen. Testify.
No where in this post is there a mention of using the proper glove for a ta=
sk. Loose, heavy, poor fitting gloves (looking at the video, I would think=
the stick should have been wearing a "small", MAYBE a "medium"...) are a r=
ecipe/invitation for disaster and injury. As are baggy sleeves, long hair,=
dangling jewelry, etc. Loose material allows the machine to grab it, as o=
pposed to a tight fitting material which fits closely to your hands or body=
.
Just this last year's winter I discovered these compression work gloves I h=
ave seen some of the guys wearing for some time now. The arthritis in my h=
ands made it almost impossible to work, no matter how much Ibuprofin/Alleve=
/aspirin I took. So in desperation I bought a pair of them at H Depot to k=
eep some of the cold out and get a little support for my aching hands.
They actually worked pretty well. I was putting up siding and trims outsid=
e a house, them moved inside for some miscellaneous work. My hands still h=
urt, but gripping was easier and strangely, they didn't ache as long after =
the end of the day as they did when I wasn't wearing them.
They are already in the tool box. When wearing them, I will make sure I ke=
ep my hands off the spinning saw blades and away from spinning drill bits. =
Kinda like I do now...
Robert
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> Does not matter if loose. I repeat, I pushed an empty glove into the
> spinning blade of my TS and the glove was not grabbed or snagged, it
> simply cut and the blade left a kerf slot in the glove.
This may be one of those things where the blade won't grab the glove often
at all, but when it does the results are worse than it would be without
gloves. That would be reason enough to discourage the practice.
Puckdropper
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On 12/1/2014 11:21 AM, John Doe wrote:
> http://www.lowes.com/pl_Cordless+Drills_4294857547_4294937087_?Ns=p_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr|0||p_product_quantity_sold|1
The link is shit.
> Hover your mouse over "Ideas & How-tos".
>
> Lowe's online hardware store shows a guy using a miter saw while wearing
> gloves.
>
> Wouldn't it be better to have a cut finger than to have your hand pulled
> into the blade?
>
On 12/1/2014 1:28 PM, John Doe wrote:
> https://www.osha.gov/pls/imis/accidentsearch.accident_detail?id=200651750
>
> At approximately 11:30 a.m. on July 8, 2010, Employee #1 was operating a
> CTD model M25R chop saw (powered miter box type saw) and cutting aluminum I
> beams. She was wearing gloves when the saw blade caught the gloves and
> pulled her fingers into the blade. The blade amputated her left thumb, and
> index, middle and ring finger at the distal interphalangeal joint.
> Additionally, the company had rules about not wearing gloves while
> operating the chop saw. After the accident, she was transported to a
> medical center where she received treatment and was hospitalized.
>
I suspect what really happened is that the employee jumped when the
glove hit the blade and she threw her hand into the blade one way or
another.
On 12/1/2014 6:04 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
> John Doe <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> http://www.lowes.com/pl_Cordless+Drills_4294857547_4294937087_?
> Ns=p_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr|0||p_product_quantity_sold|1
>>
>> Hover your mouse over "Ideas & How-tos".
>>
>> Lowe's online hardware store shows a guy using a miter saw while wearing
>> gloves.
>>
>> Wouldn't it be better to have a cut finger than to have your hand pulled
>> into the blade?
>
> If your hand is so close to the blade that the blade can grab the glove, your hand is too damn
> close to the blade. Glove or no glove, it's too damn close.
>
Absolutely true. The fact that any glove, but especially a (typical)
poorly-fitting one, makes your hand larger than you think it is, makes
it even more dangerous. I've done more than my share of stupid or risky
things around tools and machinery, but wearing gloves isn't one of them.
That's what calluses are for.
JP
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In news:[email protected],
John Doe <[email protected]> belched:
> Pompous sounding spam...
pompous crossposting sounding whore
John Doe <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:m5if44$404
[email protected]:
>
> Wouldn't it be better to have a cut finger than to have your hand pulled
> into the blade?
>
Not that the gloves would prevent getting nicked, anyway.
Lloyd
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> fired this volley in news:h7mdnXhZD-
[email protected]:
> You are going to need something like a lathe or drill press to grab and
> pull loose clothing in.
Horse puckey! You can't imagine all the morbid accidents that have
occurred on table saws by gathering-in loose cuffs on shop coats and/or
long-sleeve shirts.
If the fabric is loose, it will be grabbed rather than cut.
As you said, wood is "easier to cut than ...(fabric)". (and it really is)
Lloyd
John Doe <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> http://www.lowes.com/pl_Cordless+Drills_4294857547_4294937087_?
Ns=p_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr|0||p_product_quantity_sold|1
>
> Hover your mouse over "Ideas & How-tos".
>
> Lowe's online hardware store shows a guy using a miter saw while wearing
> gloves.
>
> Wouldn't it be better to have a cut finger than to have your hand pulled
> into the blade?
If your hand is so close to the blade that the blade can grab the glove, your hand is too damn
close to the blade. Glove or no glove, it's too damn close.
Baxter <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:
>> If the fabric is loose, it will be grabbed rather than cut.
>>
>> As you said, wood is "easier to cut than ...(fabric)". (and it really
>> is)
>>
> OTOH, it might depend on the type of glove and fit. I've had lambskin
> gloves save my fingers more than once on my TS.
Let's see... I said, "if the fabric is loose", then you said "it might
depend on... fit". Well, yeah. But I mentioned that, no?
Lloyd
Doug Miller <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:
> Glove or no glove, it's too damn close.
Ayup. That's what they make 'pushers' for. Anyone who doesn't use them
faithfully for close work is just asking for an accident.
Lloyd
On 12/1/2014 1:21 PM, John Doe wrote:
> http://www.lowes.com/pl_Cordless+Drills_4294857547_4294937087_?Ns=p_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr|0||p_product_quantity_sold|1
>
> Hover your mouse over "Ideas & How-tos".
>
> Lowe's online hardware store shows a guy using a miter saw while wearing
> gloves.
>
> Wouldn't it be better to have a cut finger than to have your hand pulled
> into the blade?
>
No, this has been discussed time and again. I ran an experiment many
years ago by pushing a glove into a spinning saw blade.
First off wood is many times easier to cut than denim, cloth, and
leather. The blade cuts the glove instantly and in my experiment left a
kerf in the glove.
You are going to need something like a lathe or drill press to grab and
pull loose clothing in.
On 12/2/2014 4:31 AM, dadiOH wrote:
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>> Best practice for wRec"ers, don't reply to crossposting "John Doe"
>> trolls.
>
> Yeah. He wanders the groups doing the same thing...inciting then name
> calling and posting headers when someone replies in a manner it doesn't
> like. He is a one trick pony.
>
Mostly a PIA.
On 12/2/2014 12:56 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> Does not matter if loose. I repeat, I pushed an empty glove into the
>> spinning blade of my TS and the glove was not grabbed or snagged, it
>> simply cut and the blade left a kerf slot in the glove.
>
> This may be one of those things where the blade won't grab the glove often
> at all, but when it does the results are worse than it would be without
> gloves. That would be reason enough to discourage the practice.
>
> Puckdropper
>
Exactly, too dam risky if the odds were 1000 to 1. You are going to
probably jump or throw your hand into the blade if you are that close to
start with and your glove hits the blade.
On 12/2/2014 6:16 AM, John Paquay wrote:
> On 12/1/2014 6:04 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
>> John Doe <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> http://www.lowes.com/pl_Cordless+Drills_4294857547_4294937087_?
>> Ns=p_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr|0||p_product_quantity_sold|1
>>>
>>> Hover your mouse over "Ideas & How-tos".
>>>
>>> Lowe's online hardware store shows a guy using a miter saw while wearing
>>> gloves.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't it be better to have a cut finger than to have your hand pulled
>>> into the blade?
>>
>> If your hand is so close to the blade that the blade can grab the
>> glove, your hand is too damn
>> close to the blade. Glove or no glove, it's too damn close.
>>
>
> Absolutely true. The fact that any glove, but especially a (typical)
> poorly-fitting one, makes your hand larger than you think it is, makes
> it even more dangerous. I've done more than my share of stupid or risky
> things around tools and machinery, but wearing gloves isn't one of them.
> That's what calluses are for.
>
> JP
>
Yeah! LOL. I don't wear gloves around power tools either. The fact
that they could/do hit the blade will make any one jump and at least 50%
of the time their hand will go into the blade with or with out a glove.
I firmly believe, have personally witnessed, and tested the glove
being pulled in and have never seen it happen, especially when the glove
is attached to something like a hand.
I'm not saying it is OK to use a glove around power tools for the same
reason one should not wear long sleeves or a tie when operating a lathe
or drill press. Those machines will typically not cut the material or
glove and will pull you in.
https://www.osha.gov/pls/imis/accidentsearch.accident_detail?id=200651750
At approximately 11:30 a.m. on July 8, 2010, Employee #1 was operating a
CTD model M25R chop saw (powered miter box type saw) and cutting aluminum I
beams. She was wearing gloves when the saw blade caught the gloves and
pulled her fingers into the blade. The blade amputated her left thumb, and
index, middle and ring finger at the distal interphalangeal joint.
Additionally, the company had rules about not wearing gloves while
operating the chop saw. After the accident, she was transported to a
medical center where she received treatment and was hospitalized.
John Doe prodded the keyboard
>
http://www.lowes.com/pl_Cordless+Drills_4294857547_4294937087_?Ns=p_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr
0||p_product_quantity_sold|1
>
> Hover your mouse over "Ideas & How-tos".
>
> Lowe's online hardware store shows a guy using a miter saw while
> wearing gloves.
>
> Wouldn't it be better to have a cut finger than to have your hand
> pulled into the blade?
A lot of industrial workers are required to wear protective gloves
nowadays ! These are usually the anti cut through types that have a
fine chain mail type mesh incorporated into the fabric. I have a
pair, not that I use them for protection from a rotating saw blade,
but they do protect you from cuts from knives, chisels and
screwdriver slips. They are great for handling glass where you can
get very serious damage from the razor sharp edges though.
--
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On 12/1/14, 2:26 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 12/1/2014 1:21 PM, John Doe wrote:
>> http://www.lowes.com/pl_Cordless+Drills_4294857547_4294937087_?Ns=p_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr|0||p_product_quantity_sold|1
>>
>>
>> Hover your mouse over "Ideas & How-tos".
>>
>> Lowe's online hardware store shows a guy using a miter saw while wearing
>> gloves.
>>
>> Wouldn't it be better to have a cut finger than to have your hand pulled
>> into the blade?
>>
>
> No, this has been discussed time and again. I ran an experiment many
> years ago by pushing a glove into a spinning saw blade.
>
> First off wood is many times easier to cut than denim, cloth, and
> leather. The blade cuts the glove instantly and in my experiment left a
> kerf in the glove.
>
> You are going to need something like a lathe or drill press to grab and
> pull loose clothing in.
What about this...
http://youtu.be/INkwB7P5NpM?t=1m13s
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Lots of things "have been discussed time and time again". Including
things that have absolutely nothing to do with craftsmanship. Every
troll has an opinion, but the vast majority of authority and experience
with the subject say otherwise....
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>> http://www.lowes.com/pl_Cordless+Drills_4294857547_4294937087_?Ns=p_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr|0||p_product_quantity_sold|1
>>
>> Hover your mouse over "Ideas & How-tos".
>>
>> Lowe's online hardware store shows a guy using a miter saw while wearing
>> gloves.
>>
>> Wouldn't it be better to have a cut finger than to have your hand pulled
>> into the blade?
>>
>
> No, this has been discussed time and again. I ran an experiment many
> years ago by pushing a glove into a spinning saw blade.
>
> First off wood is many times easier to cut than denim, cloth, and
> leather. The blade cuts the glove instantly and in my experiment left a
> kerf in the glove.
>
> You are going to need something like a lathe or drill press to grab and
> pull loose clothing in.
>
"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> fired this volley in news:h7mdnXhZD-
> [email protected]:
>
>> You are going to need something like a lathe or drill press to grab and
>> pull loose clothing in.
>
> Horse puckey! You can't imagine all the morbid accidents that have
> occurred on table saws by gathering-in loose cuffs on shop coats and/or
> long-sleeve shirts.
>
> If the fabric is loose, it will be grabbed rather than cut.
>
> As you said, wood is "easier to cut than ...(fabric)". (and it really is)
>
OTOH, it might depend on the type of glove and fit. I've had lambskin
gloves save my fingers more than once on my TS.
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Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> John Doe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> http://www.lowes.com
>>
>> Hover your mouse over "Ideas & How-tos".
>>
>> Lowe's online hardware store shows a guy using a miter saw while
>> wearing gloves.
>>
>> Wouldn't it be better to have a cut finger than to have your hand
>> pulled into the blade?
>
> If your hand is so close to the blade that the blade can grab the
> glove, your hand is too damn close to the blade. Glove or no glove,
> it's too damn close.
People make mistakes. The question is whether the mistake is
compounded.
Pompous sounding spam...
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>> Best practice for wRec"ers, don't reply to crossposting "John Doe" trolls
> .
>
> Amen. Testify.
>
> No where in this post is there a mention of using the proper glove for a task. Loose, heavy, poor fitting gloves (looking at the video, I would think the stick should have been wearing a "small", MAYBE a "medium"...) are a recipe/invitation for disaster and injury. As are baggy sleeves, long hair, dangling jewelry, etc. Loose material allows the machine to grab it, as opposed to a tight fitting material which fits closely to your hands or body.
>
> Just this last year's winter I discovered these compression work gloves I have seen some of the guys wearing for some time now. The arthritis in my hands made it almost impossible to work, no matter how much Ibuprofin/Alleve/aspirin I took. So in desperation I bought a pair of them at H Depot to keep some of the cold out and get a little support for my aching hands.
>
> They actually worked pretty well. I was putting up siding and trims outside a house, them moved inside for some miscellaneous work. My hands still hurt, but gripping was easier and strangely, they didn't ache as long after the end of the day as they did when I wasn't wearing them.
>
> They are already in the tool box. When wearing them, I will make sure I keep my hands off the spinning saw blades and away from spinning drill bits. Kinda like I do now...
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
There are lots of people missing fingers because they too
lack common sense and are too blind to accept reality...
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> On 12/1/2014 2:46 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 12/1/14, 2:26 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 12/1/2014 1:21 PM, John Doe wrote:
>>>> http://www.lowes.com/pl_Cordless+Drills_4294857547_4294937087_?Ns=p_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr|0||p_product_quantity_sold|1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hover your mouse over "Ideas & How-tos".
>>>>
>>>> Lowe's online hardware store shows a guy using a miter saw while wearing
>>>> gloves.
>>>>
>>>> Wouldn't it be better to have a cut finger than to have your hand pulled
>>>> into the blade?
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, this has been discussed time and again. I ran an experiment many
>>> years ago by pushing a glove into a spinning saw blade.
>>>
>>> First off wood is many times easier to cut than denim, cloth, and
>>> leather. The blade cuts the glove instantly and in my experiment left a
>>> kerf in the glove.
>>>
>>> You are going to need something like a lathe or drill press to grab and
>>> pull loose clothing in.
>>
>> What about this...
>> http://youtu.be/INkwB7P5NpM?t=1m13s
>>
>>
> I saw a stick drop a glove on a rotating blade. After little resistance
> by the slot in the insert the glove went no farther than what would fit
> in the slot. If an arm/hand were attached the glove probably would not
> have fit in the slot. By what many think the globe would have
> disappeared but since the blade cuts cloth the glove stopped ones slight
> resistance was met.
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INkwB7P5NpM&feature=youtu.be&t=1m13s
The reason it might look like the glove was dropped is simply because of
how fast the blade pulled the glove. But in fact what happened is the
glove was slid towards the blade and when the saw blade caught the
glove, the board was yanked. That's why it looked like the glove was
dropped on the blade. Some people would rather deny reality than
learn...
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> On 12/1/2014 3:28 PM, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
>> Leon <lcb11211 swbelldotnet> fired this volley in news:h7mdnXhZD-
>> yeUuHJnZ2dnUVZ5o6dnZ2d giganews.com:
>>
>>> You are going to need something like a lathe or drill press to grab and
>>> pull loose clothing in.
>>
>> Horse puckey! You can't imagine all the morbid accidents that have
>> occurred on table saws by gathering-in loose cuffs on shop coats and/or
>> long-sleeve shirts.
>>
>> If the fabric is loose, it will be grabbed rather than cut.
>>
>> As you said, wood is "easier to cut than ...(fabric)". (and it really is)
>>
>> Lloyd
>>
>
>
> Thank you for pointing out my mistake of saying wood is easier to cut
> than fabric.
>
> The fact is I have had put the theory to test and any resistance to hold
> the glove keeps it from being pulled in and the fabric is simply cut.
> In about 1979 I was helping a friend cut fire wood with a chain saw. My
> finger still has the 1" scar wherw the bar hit my middle gloved finger.
> There was a slice in the glove and in my finger but the glove did not
> follow the chain around nor pull my hand in.
>
> I know all about TS accidents, I have half a thumb as a result and I was
> not wearing a glove. It is the tools that don't readily cut that grab
> and pull you in. If you hand is cut while wearing gloves the fact is
> your hand was going to be cut anyway glove or no glove.
>
All talk and no proof...
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> On 12/1/2014 5:10 PM, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
>> Baxter <lbax02_spamblock baxcode.com> fired this volley in
>> news:m5ipdg$7hf$1 speranza.aioe.org:
>>
>>>> If the fabric is loose, it will be grabbed rather than cut.
>>>>
>>>> As you said, wood is "easier to cut than ...(fabric)". (and it really
>>>> is)
>>>>
>>> OTOH, it might depend on the type of glove and fit. I've had lambskin
>>> gloves save my fingers more than once on my TS.
>>
>> Let's see... I said, "if the fabric is loose", then you said "it might
>> depend on... fit". Well, yeah. But I mentioned that, no?
>>
>> Lloyd
>>
>
> Does not matter if loose. I repeat, I pushed an empty glove into the
> spinning blade of my TS and the glove was not grabbed or snagged, it
> simply cut and the blade left a kerf slot in the glove.
>
>
Looking at the inactivity and spam in this group,
one can see why some people are hard-up for discussion...
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> On 12/1/2014 10:49 PM, John Doe wrote:
>> There are lots of people missing fingers because they too
>> lack common sense and are too blind to accept reality...
>>
>
> Oh My God If only you had always been around to guide me...
>
>
No, actually you can clearly see what happens in the video (even if you
must slow it down) and it's not like what Leon says. The glove was not
dropped onto the saw blade. The glove was slid into the saw blade and
that violent tug of the glove being pulled into the blade is what caused
the appearance of the glove being dropped.
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> On 12/1/2014 10:56 PM, John Doe wrote:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INkwB7P5NpM&feature=youtu.be&t=1m13s
>>
>> The reason it might look like the glove was dropped is simply because of
>> how fast the blade pulled the glove. But in fact what happened is the
>> glove was slid towards the blade and when the saw blade caught the
>> glove, the board was yanked. That's why it looked like the glove was
>> dropped on the blade. Some people would rather deny reality than
>> learn...
>>
>
>
> Ok, whatever, you have made your mind up and you could not be wrong.
>
> You are that guy.
>
> Now run along.
>
>
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Best practice for wRec"ers, don't reply to crossposting "John Doe"
> trolls.
Yeah. He wanders the groups doing the same thing...inciting then name
calling and posting headers when someone replies in a manner it doesn't
like. He is a one trick pony.
--
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On 12/1/2014 5:10 PM, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> Baxter <[email protected]> fired this volley in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>> If the fabric is loose, it will be grabbed rather than cut.
>>>
>>> As you said, wood is "easier to cut than ...(fabric)". (and it really
>>> is)
>>>
>> OTOH, it might depend on the type of glove and fit. I've had lambskin
>> gloves save my fingers more than once on my TS.
>
> Let's see... I said, "if the fabric is loose", then you said "it might
> depend on... fit". Well, yeah. But I mentioned that, no?
>
> Lloyd
>
Does not matter if loose. I repeat, I pushed an empty glove into the
spinning blade of my TS and the glove was not grabbed or snagged, it
simply cut and the blade left a kerf slot in the glove.
On 12/1/2014 3:28 PM, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> fired this volley in news:h7mdnXhZD-
> [email protected]:
>
>> You are going to need something like a lathe or drill press to grab and
>> pull loose clothing in.
>
> Horse puckey! You can't imagine all the morbid accidents that have
> occurred on table saws by gathering-in loose cuffs on shop coats and/or
> long-sleeve shirts.
>
> If the fabric is loose, it will be grabbed rather than cut.
>
> As you said, wood is "easier to cut than ...(fabric)". (and it really is)
>
> Lloyd
>
Thank you for pointing out my mistake of saying wood is easier to cut
than fabric.
The fact is I have had put the theory to test and any resistance to hold
the glove keeps it from being pulled in and the fabric is simply cut.
In about 1979 I was helping a friend cut fire wood with a chain saw. My
finger still has the 1" scar wherw the bar hit my middle gloved finger.
There was a slice in the glove and in my finger but the glove did not
follow the chain around nor pull my hand in.
I know all about TS accidents, I have half a thumb as a result and I was
not wearing a glove. It is the tools that don't readily cut that grab
and pull you in. If you hand is cut while wearing gloves the fact is
your hand was going to be cut anyway glove or no glove.
On 12/1/2014 10:56 PM, John Doe wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INkwB7P5NpM&feature=youtu.be&t=1m13s
>
> The reason it might look like the glove was dropped is simply because of
> how fast the blade pulled the glove. But in fact what happened is the
> glove was slid towards the blade and when the saw blade caught the
> glove, the board was yanked. That's why it looked like the glove was
> dropped on the blade. Some people would rather deny reality than
> learn...
>
Ok, whatever, you have made your mind up and you could not be wrong.
You are that guy.
Now run along.
On 12/1/2014 2:46 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 12/1/14, 2:26 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 12/1/2014 1:21 PM, John Doe wrote:
>>> http://www.lowes.com/pl_Cordless+Drills_4294857547_4294937087_?Ns=p_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr|0||p_product_quantity_sold|1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hover your mouse over "Ideas & How-tos".
>>>
>>> Lowe's online hardware store shows a guy using a miter saw while wearing
>>> gloves.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't it be better to have a cut finger than to have your hand pulled
>>> into the blade?
>>>
>>
>> No, this has been discussed time and again. I ran an experiment many
>> years ago by pushing a glove into a spinning saw blade.
>>
>> First off wood is many times easier to cut than denim, cloth, and
>> leather. The blade cuts the glove instantly and in my experiment left a
>> kerf in the glove.
>>
>> You are going to need something like a lathe or drill press to grab and
>> pull loose clothing in.
>
> What about this...
> http://youtu.be/INkwB7P5NpM?t=1m13s
>
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I saw a stick drop a glove on a rotating blade. After little resistance
by the slot in the insert the glove went no farther than what would fit
in the slot. If an arm/hand were attached the glove probably would not
have fit in the slot. By what many think the globe would have
disappeared but since the blade cuts cloth the glove stopped ones slight
resistance was met.