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04/09/2003 10:19 AM

Exterior doors

Hi,

I'd like to build an exterior door for my house.
The door is going to experience pretty extensive sun.
What wood is best for that purpose?

Can anyone send me a sketch of an ordinary exterior door?
How to configure the door so that the deformations due to weather
variations would not affect the operability of the door?

Thanks


This topic has 11 replies

rR

in reply to [email protected] (hanch) on 04/09/2003 10:19 AM

05/09/2003 3:15 PM

Just finished an 80" wide entryway that includes a 36" door + sidelights. I
used Red Oak, and finished with Helmsman Spar Varnish (3 coats). The door is on
the Southern face of my house, but doesn't get direct sun, thanks to a 7 foot
porch roof. The book "Doormaking - A do it yourself guide" by John Birchard
gives a pretty good over-view of construction and installation techniques and
"gotcha's". All in all I'm happy with the outcome, and saved more than enough
to justify the new Milwuakee 3 1/2 hp router in my table. The old PC 690 just
wasn't up to cope and stick bits for 1 3/4" oak!.

Rl

Ramsey

in reply to [email protected] (hanch) on 04/09/2003 10:19 AM

04/09/2003 12:28 PM

Wood is not the problem-the finish is. Wonder if this waterborne
lacquers and Hydrocote would work here? Anyone have any experience
with it in this situation?

On 4 Sep 2003 10:19:28 -0700, [email protected] (hanch) wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I'd like to build an exterior door for my house.
>The door is going to experience pretty extensive sun.
>What wood is best for that purpose?
>
>Can anyone send me a sketch of an ordinary exterior door?
>How to configure the door so that the deformations due to weather
>variations would not affect the operability of the door?
>
>Thanks

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to [email protected] (hanch) on 04/09/2003 10:19 AM

05/09/2003 2:57 AM

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 15:12:57 -0400, "Sam Hopkins"
<[email protected]> pixelated:

>Brings up a point. I see people with super secure front doors yet they have
>glass french doors in the back. What the heck is the point. If I was a
>robber I'd be breaking in in the back, not the front.

After seeing how the new vinyl-framed windows lock,
what self-respecting criminal (Izzat an oxymoron?)
would try to break in through a -door-? A putty knife
or screwdriver would probably do the job without any
dangerous (and loud) glass breakage.

P.S: Who would buy French doors if they knew what a
bear it was to wash all those little panes each time?


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Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] (hanch) on 04/09/2003 10:19 AM

04/09/2003 6:09 PM

FWIW, a door that will receive extensive sun exposure will require a lot of
maintenance to maintain any kind of decent appearance. Paint will hold up
the best and if you are going to paint it, you might as well buy a steel
door and save money and time.





"hanch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to build an exterior door for my house.
> The door is going to experience pretty extensive sun.
> What wood is best for that purpose?
>
> Can anyone send me a sketch of an ordinary exterior door?
> How to configure the door so that the deformations due to weather
> variations would not affect the operability of the door?
>
> Thanks

SH

"Sam Hopkins"

in reply to [email protected] (hanch) on 04/09/2003 10:19 AM

04/09/2003 3:12 PM

Brings up a point. I see people with super secure front doors yet they have
glass french doors in the back. What the heck is the point. If I was a
robber I'd be breaking in in the back, not the front.

Sam

"Ramsey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Agreed. And the security against break-ins is OUTSTANDING!!!
>
>
> On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 18:09:39 GMT, "Leon"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >FWIW, a door that will receive extensive sun exposure will require a lot
of
> >maintenance to maintain any kind of decent appearance. Paint will hold
up
> >the best and if you are going to paint it, you might as well buy a steel
> >door and save money and time.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"hanch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'd like to build an exterior door for my house.
> >> The door is going to experience pretty extensive sun.
> >> What wood is best for that purpose?
> >>
> >> Can anyone send me a sketch of an ordinary exterior door?
> >> How to configure the door so that the deformations due to weather
> >> variations would not affect the operability of the door?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >
>

Rl

Ramsey

in reply to [email protected] (hanch) on 04/09/2003 10:19 AM

04/09/2003 8:45 PM

Same here.

On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 18:20:11 -0400, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Sam Hopkins wrote:
>
>> Brings up a point. I see people with super secure front doors yet they
>> have glass french doors in the back. What the heck is the point. If I was
>> a robber I'd be breaking in in the back, not the front.
>
>When I bought my house, they asked if I had deadbolts. I said no. They
>asked if I planned to install deadbolts. I asked why. They said if I had
>deadbolts, I would get a cut on my homeowner's insurance. I pointed out
>that I have sliding glass doors, and they said it didn't matter. So I told
>them I would install deadbolts, and I did.

PA

"Preston Andreas"

in reply to [email protected] (hanch) on 04/09/2003 10:19 AM

05/09/2003 12:41 AM

Check out http://www.geocities.com/PicketFence/5276/shop/page12.html

Preston
"hanch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to build an exterior door for my house.
> The door is going to experience pretty extensive sun.
> What wood is best for that purpose?
>
> Can anyone send me a sketch of an ordinary exterior door?
> How to configure the door so that the deformations due to weather
> variations would not affect the operability of the door?
>
> Thanks

Rl

Ramsey

in reply to [email protected] (hanch) on 04/09/2003 10:19 AM

04/09/2003 1:59 PM

Agreed. And the security against break-ins is OUTSTANDING!!!


On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 18:09:39 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>FWIW, a door that will receive extensive sun exposure will require a lot of
>maintenance to maintain any kind of decent appearance. Paint will hold up
>the best and if you are going to paint it, you might as well buy a steel
>door and save money and time.
>
>
>
>
>
>"hanch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd like to build an exterior door for my house.
>> The door is going to experience pretty extensive sun.
>> What wood is best for that purpose?
>>
>> Can anyone send me a sketch of an ordinary exterior door?
>> How to configure the door so that the deformations due to weather
>> variations would not affect the operability of the door?
>>
>> Thanks
>

Sd

Silvan

in reply to [email protected] (hanch) on 04/09/2003 10:19 AM

04/09/2003 6:20 PM

Sam Hopkins wrote:

> Brings up a point. I see people with super secure front doors yet they
> have glass french doors in the back. What the heck is the point. If I was
> a robber I'd be breaking in in the back, not the front.

When I bought my house, they asked if I had deadbolts. I said no. They
asked if I planned to install deadbolts. I asked why. They said if I had
deadbolts, I would get a cut on my homeowner's insurance. I pointed out
that I have sliding glass doors, and they said it didn't matter. So I told
them I would install deadbolts, and I did.

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Phisherman

in reply to [email protected] (hanch) on 04/09/2003 10:19 AM

04/09/2003 7:39 PM

On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 18:09:39 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>FWIW, a door that will receive extensive sun exposure will require a lot of
>maintenance to maintain any kind of decent appearance. Paint will hold up
>the best and if you are going to paint it, you might as well buy a steel
>door and save money and time.
>
I have a painted steel door. After a few years, the color faded and
the finish became chauky. I used a fine-grade auto rubbing compound
and a random orbit auto buffer which brought back the color and
luster. That was much easier than refinishing the door. Use a light
color to help reflect the heat.

Rl

Ramsey

in reply to [email protected] (hanch) on 04/09/2003 10:19 AM

04/09/2003 2:41 PM

I like all three points. Plus you can out Von Duprin electronic
locking devices and panic bars on them.

On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 19:24:25 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Sam Hopkins" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Brings up a point. I see people with super secure front doors yet they
>have
>> glass french doors in the back. What the heck is the point. If I was a
>> robber I'd be breaking in in the back, not the front.
>>
>> Sam
>
>I absolutely would not get a steel door for security, I wold get it because
>they are lower maintenance and have a higher R factor.
>
>


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