Getting a Unisaw home

I love this idea but have no idea where to rent such a truck. UHaul
and Ryder do not carry trucks with these as std. equipment. The come-
along idea ...where would you hook to on the saw?

On Feb 21, 5:35=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 1. Rent a pickup with a Tommy-lift gate for the day.
> 2. If it doesn't have a mobile base, buy, or rig one.
>
> AAMOF, mine was delivered new, fully assembled and the guy had it off
> the pickup equipped with the lift, and at the shop door before I got it
> unlocked.
>
> Mine has a mobile base, and 52" fence and extension table.
>
> I've moved it twice in the two years, fully assembled, by renting a
> truck with a Tommy Lift on the back ... $50/day and $5 worth of fuel.
>
> A second person comes in handy to operate the lift while the other
> person just steadies it on the lift on the trip up. Even easier if it is
> only the cabinet saw itself, without the extension table.
>
> If it has an extension table and mobile base, simply let the extension
> table dangle off the back of the Tommy-lift, with the cabinet assembly
> on the lift itself, and steady the extension table on the short trip up,
> then roll into the bed.
>
> Three moves in 8 years and it stayed dead on in spec all three times.
>
> You will not believe how much easier and less time consuming that is
> than dis-assembly, re-assembly, followed by the long, tedious setup
> process ...
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)

Thanks - not sure what to expect at the seller's address as to whether
I can get a low sloped roll into the truck. Good tip on the
tailgate. Doesn't sound like too many are making a concern about the
motor breaking the trunnions during the return trip.

On Feb 21, 11:18=A0pm, Mike O. <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:08:58 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
> >handle the load but I have no idea how I=92d get the thing into the bed
> >of the truck (just me & wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
> >drive. I don=92t have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
> >could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?
>
> The top comes off with 4 bolts and 4 more if you want to take the
> extensions off first. =A0You can easily move the base (with motor)
> around strapped to a good 2 wheel dolly.
>
> Getting it into the truck can get a little tricky but if you can get
> the truck on a sloped drive or even over a curb and use some ramps you
> should be able to roll it in. =A0You might also want to pop the tailgate
> off so you don't bend it or break a cable.
> I will say that I've never asked my Wife to help me move one but I
> have moved 3 of them always with just me and another guy.
>
> The whole process is quite a bit easier if you can remove the motor
> but it takes two people to get that motor out and if you haven't done
> it before it's pretty easy to smash a finger. =A0Motor removal on the
> later models is a little easier since they aren't quite as large as
> the old bullet style motors. =A0
>
> Mike O. =A0

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:35:19 -0500, the infamous "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> scrawled the following:

>
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> Cool. I like my LoadHandler, too, though it's a lot more work.
>> www.loadhandler.com
>>
>> --
>I have never seen that one. I can think of a few times when that would have
>been very handy. Do you use it often?

I use it at least 3 times a year for myself and half a dozen (or more)
times for clients. Compost, gravel, sand, topsoil, and bark are my
main uses, but I wish I'd thought to use it for the 4 truckloads of
trash I took to the dump for a client last week. I'd have had to
unload the corners, but it would have saved time and energy.

--
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it
exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong
remedy." -- Ernest Benn

We moved in '08 and you U-Haul idea is a good one. We moved several
shop items including my 470 pound Grizzly 1023s and several other
tools using one of U-Hauls enclosed trailers (12' x 5' I believe with
at least 5' of interior height). The trailer is built very close to
the ground, and has the waist-high tie-down rail, and it worked well.
I have a set of home-made 2x12 ramps with the metal add-on bottom &
tailgate ledge ends. My neighbor helped my wife and I roll the saw up
onto the trailer. On the other end, my wife, sister-in-law and I
easily, well fairly easily, got it off. A few thoughts:

1) If you are buying from Craig's List ask if the seller can help you
get it loaded. He is getting paid he should do more than stand and
watch. If he can come up with a neighbor, all the better.

2) If the saw is not on a mobile base you might want to consider
getting one. It will be a hassle getting the saw on the base but
should be do-able. Without a base it will be more difficult. A fall
back would be a few lengths of pvc pipe to use as rollers but that can
be tricky, especially unloading.

3) If on a mobile base it might want to high-center when you start the
slope onto the ramps. We actually had a little more trouble getting
it off of the trailer than on. (Might have something to do with the
25 year old helper on one end and a spry 69 year old helper on the
unload end:^} ).

4) Dis-assemble as much as you can. On my saw the fence alone is
about 30+ pounds. Take wrenches and remove the tables if needed. It
only takes a few moments and probably drops the weight by 50-60
pounds. You will likely take the fence rails off too. (We were able to
move mine, on the mobile base, with the table attached.

5) The come-alone previously mentioned might help control it on the
down slide (especially if you used pipe rollers)

Main advice. Don't get in a hurry. Look the situation over and be
careful and methodical. It is do-able.

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 20:20:21 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I love this idea but have no idea where to rent such a truck. UHaul
>and Ryder do not carry trucks with these as std. equipment. The come-
>along idea ...where would you hook to on the saw?
>
>On Feb 21, 5:35 pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> 1. Rent a pickup with a Tommy-lift gate for the day.
>> 2. If it doesn't have a mobile base, buy, or rig one.
>>
>> AAMOF, mine was delivered new, fully assembled and the guy had it off
>> the pickup equipped with the lift, and at the shop door before I got it
>> unlocked.
>>
>> Mine has a mobile base, and 52" fence and extension table.
>>
>> I've moved it twice in the two years, fully assembled, by renting a
>> truck with a Tommy Lift on the back ... $50/day and $5 worth of fuel.
>>
>> A second person comes in handy to operate the lift while the other
>> person just steadies it on the lift on the trip up. Even easier if it is
>> only the cabinet saw itself, without the extension table.
>>
>> If it has an extension table and mobile base, simply let the extension
>> table dangle off the back of the Tommy-lift, with the cabinet assembly
>> on the lift itself, and steady the extension table on the short trip up,
>> then roll into the bed.
>>
>> Three moves in 8 years and it stayed dead on in spec all three times.
>>
>> You will not believe how much easier and less time consuming that is
>> than dis-assembly, re-assembly, followed by the long, tedious setup
>> process ...
>>
>> --www.e-woodshop.net
>> Last update: 10/22/08
>> KarlC@ (the obvious)


Well if you haven't come up with at least 3 plans from this I suggest
you might call a piano mover.

Mike M

The ramp (10' scaffold boards) and wench/come-a-long idea is the
best. I've often handled heavy awkward loads as that by myself. Lay
the saw on its top onto a larger size piece of ply. Use 2 at a time
of three 3/4" pipes (PVC will work) under the ply for rollers.
Wenching it up the ramp will be a snap. Remove it from the truck in
reverse loading order.

Sonny

"Nonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> If the Unisaw has wheels, what's wrong with a rope and just pull it behind
> the truck. <grin>
>

Might hurt the truck...


--

-Mike-
[email protected]

This is a used saw, so it's already put together.

On Feb 21, 3:20=A0pm, "Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:ed9306fd-a0c7-463e-9648-d23ae0789c04@f29g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
> handle the load but I have no idea how I=92d get the thing into the bed
> of the truck (just me & wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
> drive. I don=92t have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
> could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?
>
> I had the same problem with my 4WD pickup when I bought my
> unisaw so I rented a uhaul motorcycle trailer. =A0It's very low slung
> and I easily unloaded the crates & boxes by myself. =A0The guys at
> Woodcraft loaded them.
> Art

"Mike M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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If the Unisaw has wheels, what's wrong with a rope and just pull
it behind the truck. <grin>

--
Nonny

ELOQUIDIOT (n) A highly educated, sophisticated,
and articulate person who has absolutely no clue
concerning what they are talking about.
The person is typically a media commentator or politician.

imo .. you want to disassemble and reassemble anyway.. so..

pull off the fence system
remove the extension wings
remove the motor
that leaves the enclosed stand and top
you could remove the top also

you are going to want to adjust all these parts anyway.. so you may as
well move in parts, so they don't get damaged and then put it together
properly

the heaviest of those parts is probably 200#

grap a couple neighbors

"Swingman" wrote:

> 1. Rent a pickup with a Tommy-lift gate for the day.
> 2. If it doesn't have a mobile base, buy, or rig one.
-----------------------------------
Add to the above one or two "Come-A-Long"(s) for lifting and moving
heavy and/or bulky items around the shop.

Less than $30 for the original at Home Depot.

Lew

"J. Clarke" wrote:

> Huh? When did Home Depot start selling "original" Come-A-longs? My
> Dad had an original--it used a piece of chain that looked like it
> belonged on Godzilla's motorcycle. Lightweight it wasn't, but we
> never found anything that it wouldn't move.
------------------------------------
Last time I checked, Home Depot still sold the "Come-A-Long"
manufactured by an outfit in Hollywood, CA.

Not sure if they had patent protection on the design or copyright
protection of the name.

BTW, strictly a cable design, no chain involved.

Lew

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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I love this idea but have no idea where to find such a truck. UHaul
and Ryder do not have these as standard equipment. The come-along
idea - where do I hook to on the saw?

Just loop some rope around the saw and hook into the ropes. Or if you are
into this kind of thing, you will have some web slings laying around you can
use.

"Mike Marlow" wrote:
************************************************************************************************>> Oye! Come on - you can figure something like that out.-----------------Oy Vey indeed.Ya can take em to water but ya can't force em to drink.Lew

"Nonny" <[email protected]> wrote in news:3kngn.39355$Ee1.25258
@newsfe12.iad:

>
> "Mike M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> If the Unisaw has wheels, what's wrong with a rope and just pull
> it behind the truck. <grin>
>

In some states, you'll have to apply for a license plate.

Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.

"Larry Jaques" wrote:


> If you were to leave a load of steel in the middle of the road
> (other
> than in front of your house) on a snowy night for those bastids who
> throw snow into your yard every day, would it be fun? I wonder how
> many cars those guys hit every day.
---------------------------------------
Cleveland solved that problem back in '63 after a major snow storm
crippled the city for days with what affectionately became known as
the "Snow Ordnance".

No Parking on city streets when the snow level exceeds 2".

Lew

"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> Cool. I like my LoadHandler, too, though it's a lot more work.
> www.loadhandler.com
>
> --
I have never seen that one. I can think of a few times when that would have
been very handy. Do you use it often?

On Feb 23, 5:02=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Larry Jaques" wrote:
> > If you were to leave a load of steel in the middle of the road
> > (other
> > than in front of your house) on a snowy night for those bastids who
> > throw snow into your yard every day, would it be fun? I wonder how
> > many cars those guys hit every day.
>
> ---------------------------------------
> Cleveland solved that problem back in '63 after a major snow storm
> crippled the city for days with what affectionately became known as
> the "Snow Ordnance".
>
> No Parking on city streets when the snow level exceeds 2".
>
> Lew

Here there is no parking on the streets between 1 AM and (IIRC) 6 AM
anytime, ever.. If you DO park on the street in winter and a plow
comes by...well...if you're lucky just the mirrors will be gone, if
you're unlucky you'll find your car on your lawn. If a snowstorm
starts after 1 AM, the local tow-jockeys rush around and tow all kinds
of cars to their pounds and the local cops are writing tickets all
over the place. Mayhem, I tell ya!

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:08:58 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
>handle the load but I have no idea how I’d get the thing into the bed
>of the truck (just me & wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
>drive. I don’t have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
>could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?


When I got mine, it was used with 50" fence and large Laguna sliding
table I was able to pull most of the sliding table off. I had a
flatbed trailer with about 12-14" to the deck. We used ramps, it had
the mobile base, but it was a bitch with 3 men. Only took two going
down hill. If you had long ramps you might be able to rig a come
along in your pick up and slide it up. Theres not a lot of good
places to grab on to and you don't really want to be excessively rough
with it. It would be great if you could borrow a couple of those
long roller sections for unloading trucks.

Mike M

Sorry I haven't followed up before now..been working on building a
fence (the outside kind not the tablesaw kind). Guy had extension
table already disassembled when I got there, we removed the Biesemeyer
fence, cast iron wings, and were able to lift the main body (including
the motor) into the bed of my Ram pickup (and onto a piece of OSB).
Rest of it was easy. At home I used a couple of 2x10's as ramps
(after removing tailgate), slid Unisaw on OSB down the ramps into
shop. Nothing to it.

No significant damage to me or the saw except for customary bumps &
scrapes. More bruises lately (and absence from this group) from
installing 1,100 feet of split rail fencing by myself. If you were
standing outside this weekend you probably heard me.

Saw is 5HP X5 model, and dude threw in Excalibur sliding table and HTC
roller outfeed (both of which I'll probably sell since I can't fit all
in my shop). After 10 years of a Craftsman contractor saw, I could
tell the difference in about 30 seconds. Couldn't be happier with the
saw.

Cheers, and thanks for all the ideas.

On Feb 28, 7:52=A0am, RonB <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well....
>
> Now that this has digressed in ten or fifteen different directions;
> and we have collected nearly 100 posts, rendering the one excellent
> idea invisible......
>
> How's your Unisaw doing?
>
> RonB

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:08:58 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
>handle the load but I have no idea how I’d get the thing into the bed
>of the truck (just me & wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
>drive. I don’t have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
>could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?


The top comes off with 4 bolts and 4 more if you want to take the
extensions off first. You can easily move the base (with motor)
around strapped to a good 2 wheel dolly.

Getting it into the truck can get a little tricky but if you can get
the truck on a sloped drive or even over a curb and use some ramps you
should be able to roll it in. You might also want to pop the tailgate
off so you don't bend it or break a cable.
I will say that I've never asked my Wife to help me move one but I
have moved 3 of them always with just me and another guy.

The whole process is quite a bit easier if you can remove the motor
but it takes two people to get that motor out and if you haven't done
it before it's pretty easy to smash a finger. Motor removal on the
later models is a little easier since they aren't quite as large as
the old bullet style motors.


Mike O.

Swingman wrote:

> On 2/21/2010 3:08 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
>> handle the load but I have no idea how I’d get the thing into the bed
>> of the truck (just me& wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
>> drive. I don’t have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
>> could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?
>
> 1. Rent a pickup with a Tommy-lift gate for the day.
> 2. If it doesn't have a mobile base, buy, or rig one.
>
... snip
> You will not believe how much easier and less time consuming that is
> than dis-assembly, re-assembly, followed by the long, tedious setup
> process ...
>

What he said -- much better idea.

--

There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage

Rob Leatham

[email protected] wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:08:58 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
>>handle the load but I have no idea how I’d get the thing into the bed
>>of the truck (just me & wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
>>drive. I don’t have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
>>could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?
>
> If the Unisaw has wheels, how about some 2x8 or 2x12 ramps and a small
> hand winch attached to the front of the bed?
>

I'd be really leery of doing this and I'm one who generally smiles at some
of the scare-warnings posted here. The unisaw is somewhat top-heavy given
the cast iron top and if a portable base has been added, the wheels are
going to be small. The chances of things going badly as you pull this up
the ramps are going to be rather high.

What others suggested, taking the saw apart is more likely to be
successful.

--

There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage

Rob Leatham

On Feb 21, 9:11=A0pm, RonB <[email protected]> wrote:
> We moved in '08 and you U-Haul idea is a good one. =A0We moved several
> shop items including my 470 pound Grizzly 1023s and several other
> tools using one of U-Hauls enclosed trailers (12' x 5' I believe with
> at least 5' of interior height). =A0The trailer is built very close to
> the ground, and has the waist-high tie-down rail, and it worked well.
> I have a set of home-made 2x12 ramps with the metal add-on bottom &
> tailgate ledge ends. =A0My neighbor helped my wife and I roll the saw up
> onto the trailer. =A0On the other end, my wife, sister-in-law and I
> easily, well fairly easily, got it off. =A0A few thoughts:
>
> 1) If you are buying from Craig's List ask if the seller can help you
> get it loaded. =A0He is getting paid he should do more than stand and
> watch. If he can come up with a neighbor, all the better.
>
> 2) If the saw is not on a mobile base you might want to consider
> getting one. =A0It will be a hassle getting the saw on the base but
> should be do-able. =A0Without a base it will be more difficult. =A0A fall
> back would be a few lengths of pvc pipe to use as rollers but that can
> be tricky, especially unloading.
>
> 3) If on a mobile base it might want to high-center when you start the
> slope onto the ramps. =A0We actually had a little more trouble getting
> it off of the trailer than on. =A0(Might have something to do with the
> 25 year old helper on one end and a spry 69 year old helper on the
> unload end:^} =A0).
>
> 4) Dis-assemble as much as you can. =A0On my saw the fence alone is
> about 30+ pounds. =A0Take wrenches and remove the tables if needed. =A0It
> only takes a few moments and probably drops the weight by 50-60
> pounds. You will likely take the fence rails off too. (We were able to
> move mine, on the mobile base, with the table attached.
>
> 5) The come-alone previously mentioned might help control it on the
> down slide (especially if you used pipe rollers)
>
> Main advice. =A0Don't get in a hurry. =A0Look the situation over and be
> careful and methodical. It is do-able.

Sonny must have posted just ahead of me. the PVC pipe works. We
moved a 800# gun safe and a 600# fireplace insert using the pipes.
Just tip the saw back and slide the first one under; then balance it
while rolling onto another. Then roll it onto a third and swap out
from there.

Just remember one thing.....

TOP heavy.

RonB

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 20:01:07 -0800, the infamous "Nonny"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>
>"Mike M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>If the Unisaw has wheels, what's wrong with a rope and just pull
>it behind the truck. <grin>

Eloquidiot.
;)

--
"Just think of the tragedy of teaching children not to doubt."
-- Clarence Darrow

Will all the disassembled pieces fit in the back of the truck?

On Feb 21, 3:19=A0pm, eclipsme <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2/21/2010 4:08 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
> > handle the load but I have no idea how I=92d get the thing into the bed
> > of the truck (just me& =A0wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
> > drive. I don=92t have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
> > could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?
>
> Bring some tools and start dismantling it. I don't have a unisaw, but
> you could probably google it and get an exploded diagram. On my
> powermatic, the table comes off easily reducing the weight considerably.
> Then the motor can be removed, etc. until it becomes manageable. Putting
> it all back together gives you the opportunity to clean it out well,
> lube it up and get everything parallel and/or square.
>
> Good luck, and congratulations.
> Harvey

"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 20:01:07 -0800, the infamous "Nonny"
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>
>>"Mike M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>If the Unisaw has wheels, what's wrong with a rope and just pull
>>it behind the truck. <grin>
>
> Eloquidiot.
> ;)
>

Yup, just having a little fun. <grin>

BTW, one of the best investments I ever made was to install a dump
kit on my pickup. When installed, it raised the bed 1/8", which
wasn't noticable. However, I could hit a button and the bed would
tilt 50degrees to dump out rock, wood, debris or dirt when I
hauled it. The kit was installed just a MONTH before Hurricane
Fan hit Raleigh, and believe me, after hauling over 100 loads of
debris and tree trunks to the dump, even Mrs. Nonny thought my
investment had paid off.

The other incredibly handy thing I had was a chain hoist in the
lower level garage. When bringing home a planer, for instance, I
pulled under it, hitched the pallet to the hoist and raised it a
couple inches. I then drove the truck out from under it, and
lowered the pallet to a plywood, wheeled platform. That rolled
right into the shop. Cool, and with no helper needed.

--
Nonny

ELOQUIDIOT (n) A highly educated, sophisticated,
and articulate person who has absolutely no clue
concerning what they are talking about.
The person is typically a media commentator or politician.

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:09:42 -0800 (PST), the infamous Robatoy
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>On Feb 23, 5:02 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Larry Jaques" wrote:
>> > If you were to leave a load of steel in the middle of the road
>> > (other
>> > than in front of your house) on a snowy night for those bastids who
>> > throw snow into your yard every day, would it be fun? I wonder how
>> > many cars those guys hit every day.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------
>> Cleveland solved that problem back in '63 after a major snow storm
>> crippled the city for days with what affectionately became known as
>> the "Snow Ordnance".
>>
>> No Parking on city streets when the snow level exceeds 2".
>>
>> Lew
>
>Here there is no parking on the streets between 1 AM and (IIRC) 6 AM
>anytime, ever.. If you DO park on the street in winter and a plow
>comes by...well...if you're lucky just the mirrors will be gone, if
>you're unlucky you'll find your car on your lawn. If a snowstorm
>starts after 1 AM, the local tow-jockeys rush around and tow all kinds
>of cars to their pounds and the local cops are writing tickets all
>over the place. Mayhem, I tell ya!

Better you than me. I couldn't live in a place like that. Feh!

--
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it
exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong
remedy." -- Ernest Benn

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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I love this idea but have no idea where to rent such a truck. UHaul
and Ryder do not carry trucks with these as std. equipment. The come-
along idea ...where would you hook to on the saw?


************************************************************************************************

Oye! Come on - you can figure something like that out. How about looking
at the saw for obvious points to hook up? If none, maybe a strap around the
saw that you can hook to. Use your noggin and I'll bet you can get creative
and come up with an idea. Just think of the follow up post that will
make...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

On 2/21/2010 3:08 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
> handle the load but I have no idea how I’d get the thing into the bed
> of the truck (just me& wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
> drive. I don’t have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
> could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?

1. Rent a pickup with a Tommy-lift gate for the day.
2. If it doesn't have a mobile base, buy, or rig one.

AAMOF, mine was delivered new, fully assembled and the guy had it off
the pickup equipped with the lift, and at the shop door before I got it
unlocked.

Mine has a mobile base, and 52" fence and extension table.

I've moved it twice in the two years, fully assembled, by renting a
truck with a Tommy Lift on the back ... $50/day and $5 worth of fuel.

A second person comes in handy to operate the lift while the other
person just steadies it on the lift on the trip up. Even easier if it is
only the cabinet saw itself, without the extension table.

If it has an extension table and mobile base, simply let the extension
table dangle off the back of the Tommy-lift, with the cabinet assembly
on the lift itself, and steady the extension table on the short trip up,
then roll into the bed.

Three moves in 8 years and it stayed dead on in spec all three times.

You will not believe how much easier and less time consuming that is
than dis-assembly, re-assembly, followed by the long, tedious setup
process ...

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Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 20:17:42 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I love this idea but have no idea where to find such a truck. UHaul
>and Ryder do not have these as standard equipment.

If you're in California, zilok.com rents 3/4 tom pickups with lift for
$65/day:
http://us.zilok.com/rental/17759-3-4-ton-pickup-truck-with-lift.html

Check whether they are in your area:
http://us.zilok.com/c-100200300-rental/truck

Otherwise, see what a 16 foot moving van with lift costs - probably
$35-$45/hour.

John

I love this idea but have no idea where to find such a truck. UHaul
and Ryder do not have these as standard equipment. The come-along
idea - where do I hook to on the saw?

On Feb 21, 5:35=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 1. Rent a pickup with a Tommy-lift gate for the day.
> 2. If it doesn't have a mobile base, buy, or rig one.
>
> AAMOF, mine was delivered new, fully assembled and the guy had it off
> the pickup equipped with the lift, and at the shop door before I got it
> unlocked.
>
> Mine has a mobile base, and 52" fence and extension table.
>
> I've moved it twice in the two years, fully assembled, by renting a
> truck with a Tommy Lift on the back ... $50/day and $5 worth of fuel.
>
> A second person comes in handy to operate the lift while the other
> person just steadies it on the lift on the trip up. Even easier if it is
> only the cabinet saw itself, without the extension table.
>
> If it has an extension table and mobile base, simply let the extension
> table dangle off the back of the Tommy-lift, with the cabinet assembly
> on the lift itself, and steady the extension table on the short trip up,
> then roll into the bed.
>
> Three moves in 8 years and it stayed dead on in spec all three times.
>
> You will not believe how much easier and less time consuming that is
> than dis-assembly, re-assembly, followed by the long, tedious setup
> process ...
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)

Not available around here, and the cost of an 8 - 10 hour rental is
out of the question.

On Feb 21, 11:37=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> Check whether they are in your area:http://us.zilok.com/c-100200300-renta=
l/truck
>
> Otherwise, see what a 16 foot moving van with lift costs - probably
> $35-$45/hour.
>
> John

Well....

Now that this has digressed in ten or fifteen different directions;
and we have collected nearly 100 posts, rendering the one excellent
idea invisible......

How's your Unisaw doing?


RonB

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 05:20:12 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Not available around here, and the cost of an 8 - 10 hour rental is
>out of the question.
>
>On Feb 21, 11:37 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>> Check whether they are in your area:http://us.zilok.com/c-100200300-rental/truck
>>
>> Otherwise, see what a 16 foot moving van with lift costs - probably
>> $35-$45/hour.

Rent or borrow a good refrigerator dolly.

Mark

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:18:02 -0800, the infamous "Nonny"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>
>"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On 02/23/2010 09:03 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:25:25 -0800, the infamous "Nonny"
>>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>>> BTW, one of the best investments I ever made was to install a
>>>> dump
>>>> kit on my pickup. When installed, it raised the bed 1/8",
>>>> which
>>>> wasn't noticable. However, I could hit a button and the bed
>>>> would
>>>> tilt 50degrees to dump out rock, wood, debris or dirt when I
>>>> hauled it. The kit was installed just a MONTH before
>>>> Hurricane
>>>> Fan hit Raleigh, and believe me, after hauling over 100 loads
>>>> of
>>>> debris and tree trunks to the dump, even Mrs. Nonny thought my
>>>> investment had paid off.
>>>
>>> I looked into those when I got my truck and found that the
>>> Tundra has
>>> a custom shaped bed which would prevent the use of a dump bed
>>> kit.
>>> Interference fits and all that, unless I moved the bed back a
>>> couple
>>> inches, making the truck look awfully funny. The dump bed
>>> setups which
>>> fit into the bed are ghastly expensive at $3.5k.
>>
>> You'd think a dump bed would be something the manufacturers
>> could design right into the truck and offer as a factory option;
>> I'd bet they'd sell a ton of trucks that way.
>>
>> --
>> So will there ever be a day, throughout the rest of my life,
>> that I
>> won't encounter in the written word a case of somebody not
>> understanding
>> the difference between the meanings of the words "to" and "too"?
>> To reply, eat the taco.
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/
>They'd have to work around the fuel filler issue: where do you
>put it? Other than that, it's terrific.

Piece of cake. Slotted section in the bed with rubber flaps. Or just a
divot in the bedside where the riser tube comes up.

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exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong
remedy." -- Ernest Benn

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:08:58 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
>handle the load but I have no idea how I’d get the thing into the bed
>of the truck (just me & wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
>drive. I don’t have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
>could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?


Maybe you can remove the iron wings? These are heavy by themselves.
Be careful to keep track of parts, screws, etc.

"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 02/23/2010 09:03 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:25:25 -0800, the infamous "Nonny"
>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>> BTW, one of the best investments I ever made was to install a
>>> dump
>>> kit on my pickup. When installed, it raised the bed 1/8",
>>> which
>>> wasn't noticable. However, I could hit a button and the bed
>>> would
>>> tilt 50degrees to dump out rock, wood, debris or dirt when I
>>> hauled it. The kit was installed just a MONTH before
>>> Hurricane
>>> Fan hit Raleigh, and believe me, after hauling over 100 loads
>>> of
>>> debris and tree trunks to the dump, even Mrs. Nonny thought my
>>> investment had paid off.
>>
>> I looked into those when I got my truck and found that the
>> Tundra has
>> a custom shaped bed which would prevent the use of a dump bed
>> kit.
>> Interference fits and all that, unless I moved the bed back a
>> couple
>> inches, making the truck look awfully funny. The dump bed
>> setups which
>> fit into the bed are ghastly expensive at $3.5k.
>
> You'd think a dump bed would be something the manufacturers
> could design right into the truck and offer as a factory option;
> I'd bet they'd sell a ton of trucks that way.
>
> --
> So will there ever be a day, throughout the rest of my life,
> that I
> won't encounter in the written word a case of somebody not
> understanding
> the difference between the meanings of the words "to" and "too"?
> To reply, eat the taco.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/
They'd have to work around the fuel filler issue: where do you
put it? Other than that, it's terrific.

--
Nonny

Luxury cars now offer a Republican seating option. These are
seats which blow heated air onto your backside in the winter
and cooled air in the summer. If they were democrat car seats,
they would just blow smoke up your rump year-round.

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:ed9306fd-a0c7-463e-9648-d23ae0789c04@f29g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
handle the load but I have no idea how I’d get the thing into the bed
of the truck (just me & wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
drive. I don’t have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?

I had the same problem with my 4WD pickup when I bought my
unisaw so I rented a uhaul motorcycle trailer. It's very low slung
and I easily unloaded the crates & boxes by myself. The guys at
Woodcraft loaded them.
Art

On 2/21/2010 4:08 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
> handle the load but I have no idea how I’d get the thing into the bed
> of the truck (just me& wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
> drive. I don’t have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
> could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?

Bring some tools and start dismantling it. I don't have a unisaw, but
you could probably google it and get an exploded diagram. On my
powermatic, the table comes off easily reducing the weight considerably.
Then the motor can be removed, etc. until it becomes manageable. Putting
it all back together gives you the opportunity to clean it out well,
lube it up and get everything parallel and/or square.

Good luck, and congratulations.
Harvey

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:3ea86caf-194b-487a-9729-93c3c6c9d6bb@c16g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
This is a used saw, so it's already put together.

=======================
I'd take the top off and lay it upside down in the bed of the
truck (with suitable padding of course). If it's still too heavy
you can remove the fence rails and even the cast iron wings.
All of the above are relatively easy to realign once reattached.
The bed of the motorcycle trailer was only about a foot off
the ground so loading/unloading the base cabinet should be
relatively easy.
Art

Why wouldn't they? Its a pickup, right? Plenty of room.

Harvey

On 2/21/2010 4:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> Will all the disassembled pieces fit in the back of the truck?
>
> On Feb 21, 3:19 pm, eclipsme<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 2/21/2010 4:08 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
>>> handle the load but I have no idea how I’d get the thing into the bed
>>> of the truck (just me& wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
>>> drive. I don’t have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
>>> could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?
>>
>> Bring some tools and start dismantling it. I don't have a unisaw, but
>> you could probably google it and get an exploded diagram. On my
>> powermatic, the table comes off easily reducing the weight considerably.
>> Then the motor can be removed, etc. until it becomes manageable. Putting
>> it all back together gives you the opportunity to clean it out well,
>> lube it up and get everything parallel and/or square.
>>
>> Good luck, and congratulations.
>> Harvey
>

On 2/21/2010 7:25 PM, Mike M wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 17:35:05 -0600, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 2/21/2010 3:08 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
>>> handle the load but I have no idea how I’d get the thing into the bed
>>> of the truck (just me& wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
>>> drive. I don’t have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
>>> could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?
>>
>> 1. Rent a pickup with a Tommy-lift gate for the day.
>> 2. If it doesn't have a mobile base, buy, or rig one.
>>
>> AAMOF, mine was delivered new, fully assembled and the guy had it off
>> the pickup equipped with the lift, and at the shop door before I got it
>> unlocked.
>>
>> Mine has a mobile base, and 52" fence and extension table.
>>
>> I've moved it twice in the two years, fully assembled, by renting a
>> truck with a Tommy Lift on the back ... $50/day and $5 worth of fuel.
>>
>> A second person comes in handy to operate the lift while the other
>> person just steadies it on the lift on the trip up. Even easier if it is
>> only the cabinet saw itself, without the extension table.
>>
>> If it has an extension table and mobile base, simply let the extension
>> table dangle off the back of the Tommy-lift, with the cabinet assembly
>> on the lift itself, and steady the extension table on the short trip up,
>> then roll into the bed.
>>
>> Three moves in 8 years and it stayed dead on in spec all three times.
>>
>> You will not believe how much easier and less time consuming that is
>> than dis-assembly, re-assembly, followed by the long, tedious setup
>> process ...
>
> Probably the best $50 you'll spend, beats popping your back out.
>
> Mike M

Yea. You are probably right. Scratch my suggestion!

Harvey

On 2/21/2010 7:05 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Swingman" wrote:
>
>> 1. Rent a pickup with a Tommy-lift gate for the day.
>> 2. If it doesn't have a mobile base, buy, or rig one.
> -----------------------------------
> Add to the above one or two "Come-A-Long"(s) for lifting and moving
> heavy and/or bulky items around the shop.
>
> Less than $30 for the original at Home Depot.

Huh? When did Home Depot start selling "original" Come-A-longs? My Dad
had an original--it used a piece of chain that looked like it belonged
on Godzilla's motorcycle. Lightweight it wasn't, but we never found
anything that it wouldn't move.

"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 16:29:02 -0500, the infamous [email protected]
> scrawled the following:
>
>>On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:08:58 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
>>>handle the load but I have no idea how I'd get the thing into the bed
>>>of the truck (just me & wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
>>>drive. I don't have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
>>>could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?
>>
>>If the Unisaw has wheels, how about some 2x8 or 2x12 ramps and a small
>>hand winch attached to the front of the bed?
>>
>>One person guides the saw on the raps, the other turns the winch
>>Harbor Freight has winches rated for 1000lb for about $25 and 1200lb
>>winches are about $30:
>>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65688
>>1000lb, wire rope
>>
>>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65115
>>1200lb, strap
>>
>>A block & tackle also works - 2000lb unit from Northern Tools:
>>http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_11839_11839
>>
>>I've used a block & tackle and 2x8 ramps to get big yard equipment
>>in/out of my truck (42" riding mower, 28" snow blower).
>
> I got Dina into and out of my truck with a comealong, a piece of
> cardboard, and a pair of poly ropes. No big deal. She had casters,
> so she wheeled right into the shop.


What did the piece of cardboard do?

"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Nonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Mike M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> If the Unisaw has wheels, what's wrong with a rope and just pull it
>> behind the truck. <grin>
>>
>
> Might hurt the truck...
>

Have somebody ride the saw to brake.

"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Mike Marlow" wrote:
> ************************************************************************************************>>
> Oye! Come on - you can figure something like that out.-----------------Oy
> Vey indeed.Ya can take em to water but ya can't force em to drink.Lew
>
>


Salt water.

On 2/21/2010 9:44 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "J. Clarke" wrote:
>
>> Huh? When did Home Depot start selling "original" Come-A-longs? My
>> Dad had an original--it used a piece of chain that looked like it
>> belonged on Godzilla's motorcycle. Lightweight it wasn't, but we
>> never found anything that it wouldn't move.
> ------------------------------------
> Last time I checked, Home Depot still sold the "Come-A-Long"
> manufactured by an outfit in Hollywood, CA.
>
> Not sure if they had patent protection on the design or copyright
> protection of the name.
>
> BTW, strictly a cable design, no chain involved.

I'm talking about WWII military equipment. That's what people who were
Seabees during WWII called a "come-a-long". The Maasdam product didn't
go on the market until after the war. If you want to see what I'm
talking about google "Yale C85".

On 02/21/2010 11:09 PM, LDosser wrote:
> "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Nonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> "Mike M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> If the Unisaw has wheels, what's wrong with a rope and just pull it
>>> behind the truck. <grin>
>>
>> Might hurt the truck...
>
> Have somebody ride the saw to brake.

Hold my beer, Ima try something...

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Alternative idea:

Get some beams or other materials sufficient to allow a 4-person crew
to lift and load the saw.

When you go to pick up the saw, stop at the nearest Home Depot or other
large home improvement center. These places always have day workers
milling around looking for work. Hire enough day workers @ around
$10/each to move the saw. Take them to where the saw is, load it onto
your truck, take them back where you picked them up.

Repeat the process at your destination.

--
-Ed Falk, [email protected]
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/

[email protected] wrote:
> I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
> handle the load but I have no idea how I’d get the thing into the bed
> of the truck (just me & wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
> drive. I don’t have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
> could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?

A typical Unisaw weighs in at 380 lbs, which can be handled fairly
easy with hand carts. A furniture mover is also handy if you got
one.

I assume you got a pair of decent ramps ???

(1) Remove any side tables.
(2) Being Very careful, tilt the saw over on it's side
and stand it up top down. Do NOT crush hand wheels
doing this step.
(3) Hand cart the saw up the ramps and place saw in truck
bed upside down.

(4) Tie down saw, and drive slowly home.

(5) Do the reverse when you get home.

Did I mention being careful ???

On 02/23/2010 09:03 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:25:25 -0800, the infamous "Nonny"
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>> BTW, one of the best investments I ever made was to install a dump
>> kit on my pickup. When installed, it raised the bed 1/8", which
>> wasn't noticable. However, I could hit a button and the bed would
>> tilt 50degrees to dump out rock, wood, debris or dirt when I
>> hauled it. The kit was installed just a MONTH before Hurricane
>> Fan hit Raleigh, and believe me, after hauling over 100 loads of
>> debris and tree trunks to the dump, even Mrs. Nonny thought my
>> investment had paid off.
>
> I looked into those when I got my truck and found that the Tundra has
> a custom shaped bed which would prevent the use of a dump bed kit.
> Interference fits and all that, unless I moved the bed back a couple
> inches, making the truck look awfully funny. The dump bed setups which
> fit into the bed are ghastly expensive at $3.5k.

You'd think a dump bed would be something the manufacturers could design right into the
truck and offer as a factory option; I'd bet they'd sell a ton of trucks that way.

--
So will there ever be a day, throughout the rest of my life, that I
won't encounter in the written word a case of somebody not understanding
the difference between the meanings of the words "to" and "too"?
To reply, eat the taco.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/

One other option that hasn't been mentioned is to rent a towable engine
hoist. I'm not sure how easy it would be to attach to a unisaw but I used
one to move a large wood stove a few years back and it worked great (and
was pretty cheap -- under $20 to rent).

Lance

> Cool. I like my LoadHandler, too, though it's a lot more work.
> www.loadhandler.com
>

I had one of those a LOVED it.
It's certainly a lot less work then shoveling.

I unloaded, easily, over 100 tons with the thing and it was still going.
I miss it.... and my truck.


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On 02/23/2010 11:00 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> Cool. I like my LoadHandler, too, though it's a lot more work.
>> www.loadhandler.com
>>
>
> I had one of those a LOVED it.
> It's certainly a lot less work then shoveling.
>
> I unloaded, easily, over 100 tons with the thing and it was still going.
> I miss it.... and my truck.

What the... how come I've never seen one of those before? Sheeit, I'm sold!

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sparse, will expand to fill all available lanes.
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eclipsme wrote:
> Bring some tools and start dismantling it.
> Good luck, and congratulations.
> Harvey

I helped my brother pick up an old lathe once. 900 lbs, 9 foot bed. We
just took it apart into manageable pieces, and put it back together
later. As Harvey said, it will give you a chance to clean, inspect, and
ajust the workings.

Scritch

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Sorry I haven't followed up before now..been working on building a
fence (the outside kind not the tablesaw kind). Guy had extension
table already disassembled when I got there, we removed the Biesemeyer
fence, cast iron wings, and were able to lift the main body (including
the motor) into the bed of my Ram pickup (and onto a piece of OSB).
Rest of it was easy. At home I used a couple of 2x10's as ramps
(after removing tailgate), slid Unisaw on OSB down the ramps into
shop. Nothing to it.

No significant damage to me or the saw except for customary bumps &
scrapes. More bruises lately (and absence from this group) from
installing 1,100 feet of split rail fencing by myself. If you were
standing outside this weekend you probably heard me.

Saw is 5HP X5 model, and dude threw in Excalibur sliding table and HTC
roller outfeed (both of which I'll probably sell since I can't fit all
in my shop).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sounds like a drive by gloat! You Suck!! :o)

Glad you got it all shifted ok.

On 3/9/2010 12:09 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> Saw is 5HP X5 model, and dude threw in Excalibur sliding table and HTC
> roller outfeed (both of which I'll probably sell since I can't fit all
> in my shop). After 10 years of a Craftsman contractor saw, I could
> tell the difference in about 30 seconds. Couldn't be happier with the
> saw.

Nice!

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On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:08:58 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
>handle the load but I have no idea how I’d get the thing into the bed
>of the truck (just me & wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
>drive. I don’t have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
>could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?

If the Unisaw has wheels, how about some 2x8 or 2x12 ramps and a small
hand winch attached to the front of the bed?

One person guides the saw on the raps, the other turns the winch
Harbor Freight has winches rated for 1000lb for about $25 and 1200lb
winches are about $30:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65688
1000lb, wire rope

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65115
1200lb, strap

A block & tackle also works - 2000lb unit from Northern Tools:
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_11839_11839

I've used a block & tackle and 2x8 ramps to get big yard equipment
in/out of my truck (42" riding mower, 28" snow blower).

John

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:04:48 -0600, the infamous Swingman
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>On 2/22/2010 7:20 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> Not available around here, and the cost of an 8 - 10 hour rental is
>> out of the question.
>>
>> On Feb 21, 11:37 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>>> Check whether they are in your area:http://us.zilok.com/c-100200300-rental/truck
>>>
>>> Otherwise, see what a 16 foot moving van with lift costs - probably
>>> $35-$45/hour.
>
>More like $50/day, not per hour ... no one could afford that, sheeeeeesh.
>
>Penske has rental places all over MS.

Call any of the appliance outlets which haven't yet gone out of
business. They probably have a lift truck and a man hanging around
doing nothing and would love to go move a newfangled tablesaur for
some fine gent in their town.

Horrifyingly enough, I drove by the last local equipment rental place
last week and there was no equipment there, but a large For Rent sign
hung on the building. DRAT!

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"Just think of the tragedy of teaching children not to doubt."
-- Clarence Darrow

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:ed9306fd-a0c7-463e-9648-d23ae0789c04@f29g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
handle the load but I have no idea how I’d get the thing into the bed
of the truck (just me & wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
drive. I don’t have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?


Not unusual for Unisaws to sustain broken trunions unless handled with kid
gloves. Lots of documentation concerning that problem. I personally would
absolutely take the motor out so that the trunion only has to supports it's
own weight should the saw shift or get bounced a bit. the motor is probably
close to 100# so that should help with the lifting.

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 17:35:05 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 2/21/2010 3:08 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
>> handle the load but I have no idea how I’d get the thing into the bed
>> of the truck (just me& wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
>> drive. I don’t have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
>> could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?
>
>1. Rent a pickup with a Tommy-lift gate for the day.
>2. If it doesn't have a mobile base, buy, or rig one.
>
>AAMOF, mine was delivered new, fully assembled and the guy had it off
>the pickup equipped with the lift, and at the shop door before I got it
>unlocked.
>
>Mine has a mobile base, and 52" fence and extension table.
>
>I've moved it twice in the two years, fully assembled, by renting a
>truck with a Tommy Lift on the back ... $50/day and $5 worth of fuel.
>
>A second person comes in handy to operate the lift while the other
>person just steadies it on the lift on the trip up. Even easier if it is
>only the cabinet saw itself, without the extension table.
>
>If it has an extension table and mobile base, simply let the extension
>table dangle off the back of the Tommy-lift, with the cabinet assembly
>on the lift itself, and steady the extension table on the short trip up,
>then roll into the bed.
>
>Three moves in 8 years and it stayed dead on in spec all three times.
>
>You will not believe how much easier and less time consuming that is
>than dis-assembly, re-assembly, followed by the long, tedious setup
>process ...

Probably the best $50 you'll spend, beats popping your back out.

Mike M

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:02:11 -0800, the infamous "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>
>"Larry Jaques" wrote:
>
>
>> If you were to leave a load of steel in the middle of the road
>> (other
>> than in front of your house) on a snowy night for those bastids who
>> throw snow into your yard every day, would it be fun? I wonder how
>> many cars those guys hit every day.
>---------------------------------------
>Cleveland solved that problem back in '63 after a major snow storm
>crippled the city for days with what affectionately became known as
>the "Snow Ordnance".
>
>No Parking on city streets when the snow level exceeds 2".

At 1.95", the entire city just goes home and doesn't come back until
Spring Thaw, eh? Works for me.

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"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it
exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong
remedy." -- Ernest Benn

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:30:05 -0600, the infamous Steve Turner
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>On 02/23/2010 09:03 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:25:25 -0800, the infamous "Nonny"
>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>> BTW, one of the best investments I ever made was to install a dump
>>> kit on my pickup. When installed, it raised the bed 1/8", which
>>> wasn't noticable. However, I could hit a button and the bed would
>>> tilt 50degrees to dump out rock, wood, debris or dirt when I
>>> hauled it. The kit was installed just a MONTH before Hurricane
>>> Fan hit Raleigh, and believe me, after hauling over 100 loads of
>>> debris and tree trunks to the dump, even Mrs. Nonny thought my
>>> investment had paid off.
>>
>> I looked into those when I got my truck and found that the Tundra has
>> a custom shaped bed which would prevent the use of a dump bed kit.
>> Interference fits and all that, unless I moved the bed back a couple
>> inches, making the truck look awfully funny. The dump bed setups which
>> fit into the bed are ghastly expensive at $3.5k.
>
>You'd think a dump bed would be something the manufacturers could design right into the
>truck and offer as a factory option; I'd bet they'd sell a ton of trucks that way.

They'd run up a lot more liability insurance that way, I'll bet. It's
likely the speaking weasels which keep them from doing so.

--
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it
exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong
remedy." -- Ernest Benn

"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>
> I looked into those when I got my truck and found that the
> Tundra has
> a custom shaped bed which would prevent the use of a dump bed
> kit.
> Interference fits and all that, unless I moved the bed back a
> couple
> inches, making the truck look awfully funny. The dump bed setups
> which
> fit into the bed are ghastly expensive at $3.5k. I passed on
> them and
> bought a $70 Load Handler. I'm going to get a drop-in bedliner
> next
> week (ordering this week) and it will make the LH work a lot
> better
> pluls make my bed cleanups a whole lot nicer, especially for
> compost,
> leaves, or trash.
>
> What did you pay for your kit, or did you build it all yourself?

My kit was power up and power down for a Dodge 2500 V-10 4X4. It
came from FL and the installed cost in about
'95 was $1850. The power down option gives you more control, I
felt and the valve only added about $50 to the cost. The only
gripe I had was that the bed had to be tilted about 30degrees to
clear the cut-off fuel filler spout. The dog hated that. The
only change I made in the setup was to move the switch from the
dash to the panel behind/to the side of the driver's seat. That
way I could stand beside the truck when dumping and maintain a
better view. It was very, very handy.


>
>
--
Nonny

Luxury cars now offer a Republican seating option. These are
seats which blow heated air onto your backside in the winter
and cooled air in the summer. If they were democrat car seats,
they would just blow smoke up your rump year-round.

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 16:29:02 -0500, the infamous [email protected]
scrawled the following:

>On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:08:58 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
>>handle the load but I have no idea how I’d get the thing into the bed
>>of the truck (just me & wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
>>drive. I don’t have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
>>could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?
>
>If the Unisaw has wheels, how about some 2x8 or 2x12 ramps and a small
>hand winch attached to the front of the bed?
>
>One person guides the saw on the raps, the other turns the winch
>Harbor Freight has winches rated for 1000lb for about $25 and 1200lb
>winches are about $30:
>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65688
>1000lb, wire rope
>
>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65115
>1200lb, strap
>
>A block & tackle also works - 2000lb unit from Northern Tools:
>http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_11839_11839
>
>I've used a block & tackle and 2x8 ramps to get big yard equipment
>in/out of my truck (42" riding mower, 28" snow blower).

I got Dina into and out of my truck with a comealong, a piece of
cardboard, and a pair of poly ropes. No big deal. She had casters,
so she wheeled right into the shop.

--
"Just think of the tragedy of teaching children not to doubt."
-- Clarence Darrow

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:25:25 -0800, the infamous "Nonny"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 20:01:07 -0800, the infamous "Nonny"
>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>>>
>>>"Mike M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>If the Unisaw has wheels, what's wrong with a rope and just pull
>>>it behind the truck. <grin>
>>
>> Eloquidiot.
>> ;)
>>
>
>Yup, just having a little fun. <grin>

If you were to leave a load of steel in the middle of the road (other
than in front of your house) on a snowy night for those bastids who
throw snow into your yard every day, would it be fun? I wonder how
many cars those guys hit every day. Luckily, we receive hardly a
flurry here in SoOr.


>BTW, one of the best investments I ever made was to install a dump
>kit on my pickup. When installed, it raised the bed 1/8", which
>wasn't noticable. However, I could hit a button and the bed would
>tilt 50degrees to dump out rock, wood, debris or dirt when I
>hauled it. The kit was installed just a MONTH before Hurricane
>Fan hit Raleigh, and believe me, after hauling over 100 loads of
>debris and tree trunks to the dump, even Mrs. Nonny thought my
>investment had paid off.

I looked into those when I got my truck and found that the Tundra has
a custom shaped bed which would prevent the use of a dump bed kit.
Interference fits and all that, unless I moved the bed back a couple
inches, making the truck look awfully funny. The dump bed setups which
fit into the bed are ghastly expensive at $3.5k. I passed on them and
bought a $70 Load Handler. I'm going to get a drop-in bedliner next
week (ordering this week) and it will make the LH work a lot better
pluls make my bed cleanups a whole lot nicer, especially for compost,
leaves, or trash.

What did you pay for your kit, or did you build it all yourself?


>The other incredibly handy thing I had was a chain hoist in the
>lower level garage. When bringing home a planer, for instance, I
>pulled under it, hitched the pallet to the hoist and raised it a
>couple inches. I then drove the truck out from under it, and
>lowered the pallet to a plywood, wheeled platform. That rolled
>right into the shop. Cool, and with no helper needed.

Yeah, nice going. I finally sold the old truck with the crane
installed and bought a fold-up HF 2T shop hoist. That, too, makes
lots of things a one-man job. Handy gadgets, they is.

--
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it
exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong
remedy." -- Ernest Benn

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:17:05 -0800, the infamous "Nonny"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>> I looked into those when I got my truck and found that the
>> Tundra has
>> a custom shaped bed which would prevent the use of a dump bed
>> kit.
>> Interference fits and all that, unless I moved the bed back a
>> couple
>> inches, making the truck look awfully funny. The dump bed setups
>> which
>> fit into the bed are ghastly expensive at $3.5k. I passed on
>> them and
>> bought a $70 Load Handler. I'm going to get a drop-in bedliner
>> next
>> week (ordering this week) and it will make the LH work a lot
>> better
>> pluls make my bed cleanups a whole lot nicer, especially for
>> compost,
>> leaves, or trash.
>>
>> What did you pay for your kit, or did you build it all yourself?
>
>My kit was power up and power down for a Dodge 2500 V-10 4X4. It
>came from FL and the installed cost in about
>'95 was $1850. The power down option gives you more control, I
>felt and the valve only added about $50 to the cost. The only
>gripe I had was that the bed had to be tilted about 30degrees to
>clear the cut-off fuel filler spout. The dog hated that. The
>only change I made in the setup was to move the switch from the
>dash to the panel behind/to the side of the driver's seat. That
>way I could stand beside the truck when dumping and maintain a
>better view. It was very, very handy.

Cool. I like my LoadHandler, too, though it's a lot more work.
www.loadhandler.com

--
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it
exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong
remedy." -- Ernest Benn

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:08:05 -0800, the infamous "LDosser"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 16:29:02 -0500, the infamous [email protected]
>> scrawled the following:
>>
>>>On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:08:58 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
>>>>handle the load but I have no idea how I'd get the thing into the bed
>>>>of the truck (just me & wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of a
>>>>drive. I don't have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
>>>>could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?
>>>
>>>If the Unisaw has wheels, how about some 2x8 or 2x12 ramps and a small
>>>hand winch attached to the front of the bed?
>>>
>>>One person guides the saw on the raps, the other turns the winch
>>>Harbor Freight has winches rated for 1000lb for about $25 and 1200lb
>>>winches are about $30:
>>>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65688
>>>1000lb, wire rope
>>>
>>>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65115
>>>1200lb, strap
>>>
>>>A block & tackle also works - 2000lb unit from Northern Tools:
>>>http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_11839_11839
>>>
>>>I've used a block & tackle and 2x8 ramps to get big yard equipment
>>>in/out of my truck (42" riding mower, 28" snow blower).
>>
>> I got Dina into and out of my truck with a comealong, a piece of
>> cardboard, and a pair of poly ropes. No big deal. She had casters,
>> so she wheeled right into the shop.
>
>
>What did the piece of cardboard do?

She bellyboarded up the tailgate on it.

--
"Just think of the tragedy of teaching children not to doubt."
-- Clarence Darrow

I have a good friend here who takes and uses his Unisaw to the
jobsite. Backs the truck up to it and tips it onto its top.
Claims to not have any problems with losing settings.

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"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:ed9306fd-a0c7-463e-9648-d23ae0789c04@f29g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
I'm looking at a Unisaw on CL. I have a Dodge Ram pickup that can
handle the load but I have no idea how I’d get the thing into the
bed
of the truck (just me & wife). The saw is not nearby and a bit of
a
drive. I don’t have access to a small trailer, although I guess I
could rent a U-Haul? Recommendations?

On 2/22/2010 7:20 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> Not available around here, and the cost of an 8 - 10 hour rental is
> out of the question.
>
> On Feb 21, 11:37 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>> Check whether they are in your area:http://us.zilok.com/c-100200300-rental/truck
>>
>> Otherwise, see what a 16 foot moving van with lift costs - probably
>> $35-$45/hour.

More like $50/day, not per hour ... no one could afford that, sheeeeeesh.

Penske has rental places all over MS.

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